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10-26-04, 09:33 AM (EST)
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"The WINNER is........."
Femia. She beat Dominic as they were the final two. As I can see everyone cares since it has been days since the last post.
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 RE: The WINNER is......... pmspml5 10-26-04 1
   RE: The WINNER is......... Pretty_Kitty 10-26-04 4
 RE: The WINNER is......... GOOU 10-26-04 2
   RE: The WINNER is......... Pensha26 10-26-04 6
 RE: The WINNER is......... What 10-26-04 3
   RE: The WINNER is......... Pensha26 10-26-04 5
       RE: The WINNER is......... Loree 10-26-04 7
           RE: The WINNER is......... Pensha26 10-26-04 10
           RE: The WINNER is......... munson 10-26-04 13
               RE: The WINNER is......... pmspml5 10-27-04 14
                   RE: The WINNER is......... What 10-27-04 17
           RE: The WINNER is......... What 10-27-04 18
       RE: The WINNER is......... What 10-27-04 16
           RE: The WINNER is......... mookiemeister 10-27-04 21
   RE: The WINNER is......... RSim6100 11-11-04 27
 RE: The WINNER is......... Oscirus 10-26-04 8
   RE: The WINNER is......... missygirl3 10-26-04 9
       RE: The WINNER is......... SurvivorBlows 10-26-04 11
           RE: The WINNER is......... zazzy 10-26-04 12
               RE: The WINNER is......... pmspml5 10-27-04 15
               RE: The WINNER is......... HistoryDetective 11-29-04 30
           RE: The WINNER is......... universityofkentuckyrocks 06-20-05 34
       RE: The WINNER is......... RSim6100 11-11-04 28
   RE: The WINNER is......... mookiemeister 10-27-04 20
 RE: The WINNER is......... MTW1961 10-27-04 19
 The REAL Winners.... shakes the clown 10-28-04 22
   RE: The REAL Winners.... mmm_link 10-31-04 25
 Femia? foonermints 10-28-04 23
 RE: The WINNER is......... mmm_link 10-31-04 24
   RE: The WINNER is......... PatrickB 11-06-04 26
       RE: The WINNER is......... Draco Malfoy 11-12-04 29
 RE: The WINNER is......... lrlr1 01-03-05 31
   RE: The WINNER is......... electro_shocks 01-19-05 32
 RE: The WINNER is......... lrlr1 01-19-05 33

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10-26-04, 09:36 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: The WINNER is........."
So who was the one that was richer than they portrayed to be?
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10-26-04, 12:31 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Linda lied she also lied about being scared of computers her mother or her friend said she was an internet geek she tried to weasle out of that statment but none the less she was booted hee hee
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2. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Thanks Pensha - the show was bumped here for a debate between local politicians. I didn't really "care" but I was curious about who won.
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6. "RE: The WINNER is........."
I missed the last few, but wanted to watch the finale. Crazy show that can only be done once.

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3. "RE: The WINNER is........."
"everyone cares since..."

It's because Cuban's methods create a smoke screen.

He seems interested in reactions based on emotions which would seemingly give us the end result of "do you have what it takes."

But the results are actually skewed because the main and only motivator is money. Not all decisions in life are based on money. He makes it sound like the only reason people get up in the morning is to go out and make money, and/or the only reason he/others go into business is to make money.

I noticed that he is all alone in his mansion, and he said he hasn't taken a vacation in years. He's lopsided. He recruited those people, so he could try and figure out what he's doing wrong. He is well aware that he doesn't have it all, but he doesn't want you to know that.

He admonished the buff chick with the NY accent because she was living in style. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't she say she grew up in poverty, not necessarily still living in poverty?

Based on what he conveniently overlooks, he's the type of guy who would write about book about Princess Diana, make a billion dollars by exploiting her death, and not share any of the proceeds with the royal family. Granted, the royal family is rich and they don't need the money per se, but an honerable author would share the proceeds appropriately. Even if the Royal Family didn't want the money, they could donate it to charity in order to turn his blood money into something positive.

He hides behind the fact that it's a game, but if he was really a good natured person, he would at least reimburse the participants for game-related expenses and/or lost wages while playing. He never will - he's a user.

I think people were rooting for the underdog, and the educated lady ended up winning. She has taken a different path in life, so we was able more easily identify to say the things that Cuban wanted to hear. It's as if Cuban used only their reaction at the end to decide who gets the money, and he forgot all about past efforts.

If this is what it's like taking the pulse of the nation, basically most of us are screwed.

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5. "RE: The WINNER is........."
He admonished the buff chick with the NY accent because she was living in style. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't she say she grew up in poverty, not necessarily still living in poverty?

Yes she grew up in poverty, but she also said that she wasn't well off and that the money could be used to help her mom. It seems to me that she would have the money to help her mom without Cuban's help. Plus she pretty much admitted to lying when she said that she should of showed Cuban a different house other than her own. She was playing the game, very well I might add, but you never lie to the gamekeeper and she got burned.....twice!

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10-26-04, 04:19 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Yes, Linda kept saying she needed the money to get her mother a new leg. Mark said she could have easily sold a couple of her plasma screens and helped her mother. Plus she lied about her computer ability. Mark did not want to be lied to. And she clearly lied from the beginning.

Does anyone think that Dominic could make it through college if Mark sent him? The "dude" would have to stop and actually do something.

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10. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Dominic would not make through college, but MC should statr a rock band for Dominic so he can "rock out"!
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10-26-04, 11:19 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Mark said she could have easily sold a couple of her plasma screens and helped her mother.

Giving Linda the benefit of the doubt, I think she made it clear that the house and plasma screens, along with the money to purchase both, was her boyfriend's. But who could tell from the whacked cut job by the editing team....

How many of you out there would expect your boyfriend to by Mom a new leg? I'll give it to ya that Linda probably had the balls to do it!

The entire basis for letting people go on the show was so subjective it was laughable. This garbage (which I watched all the way thru )deserves a place in the Reality TV Hall of Shame.


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14. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Actually - if I lived with and was engaged to a guy that WOULDN'T buy my mom a leg - that would be crap. I dont know anything about the Boston area but have heard the area they live in is very influential. I have no doubt her mother probably either has a leg - or doesnt want one but Linda used that as a key to stay in the game. I dont blame her for trying - matter of fact good for her - but dont ##### about it when it blows up in your face. Your game plan failed - simple as that.
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17. "RE: The WINNER is........."
That's true. The boyfriend seems pretty well off. If I really cared about my guy, I would certainly offer if I was able... or at least cover part of it.

I know it sounds morbid, but in dealing with the Linda types... I guess the next step would be to verify that Linda's mom actually needs a leg prosthesis.

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18. "RE: The WINNER is........."
I think Dominic needs to figure out what motivates him. I don't think he enjoys enough of a variety of things to find the benefit in going to college.

If nothing else, expanding his horizons would make him a better song writer, that is, if he's serious about his music. It was hard to tell.

He's a simple man and too laid back. He lacks maturity and drive. He's probably too influenced by his current lifestyle and group of buddies to be like Cuban. He was probably just out for a free ride. He had no real plan for the money other than to be a party dude on the beaches on Mexico.

I will say this, he does seem good natured. I love that he gave that little boy his necklace. On that premise alone, I would have loved to have seen him defeat Femia.

I can't put my finger on all of it exactly, but I am not happy for Femia.

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16. "RE: The WINNER is........."
I wonder why she lied about being able to use a computer? I wonder why she showed him her boyfriend's house, unless she recently got rid of her old place? Either way, she definitely had a guilty look on her face. I don't like the way Cuban set the game up, but I am glad that Linda lost.
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21. "RE: The WINNER is........."
>I wonder why she lied about
>being able to use a
>computer? I wonder why
>she showed him her boyfriend's
>house, unless she recently got
>rid of her old place?
> Either way, she definitely
>had a guilty look on
>her face. I don't
>like the way Cuban set
>the game up, but I
>am glad that Linda lost.
>

Why did Linda lie about being able to use a computer? The only argument in Linda's defense would be if she said it because she's a humble person and doesn't want to brag about her computer knowledge. But in her case, I don't think she lied because she didn't want to brag. She seems like the type of person who would lie to get an edge in a competition. And she definitely see the show as a competition.

I'm also glad Linda lost.


"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Einstein

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11-11-04, 09:39 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: The WINNER is........."
I hear ya. Cuban pissed me off too. He had such a crush on the Rocker Guy that I just KNEW he would win it. Sustah girl was better than me. I was pissed when he got to go to Mexico and pass those as hole easy tasks...
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10-26-04, 04:44 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: The WINNER is........."
That was the most lopsided reality final ever. it was a battle of wits between a tank and a water gun. Linda is pretty stupid. If you are gonna lie like you did than you better make damn sure that you have a backup plan. Hell she could have even said that she was living with her mother. For her to call Femia a poser after they just revealed that crap about her was a joke and makes her look really stupid.

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10-26-04, 04:48 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Did anyone notice the horriblly bad editing on last nights show? And what happened to hometown visits to Famia & Dom?? Just wanted to focus on Lindas big fat lie? I wish MC had told her off. That would made it worth my time. Snooze fest!!!! Maybe Famia should use some of that $$ and get a hairdo a little more tamed. She looks like she was stuck in a rainstorm for six months. ok,.. one more rant. Dom and MC buddies for like? PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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>Did anyone notice the horriblly bad
>editing on last nights show?
>And what happened to hometown
>visits to Famia & Dom??

That's what happens when you are forced to squeeze 180 minutes of planned footage into 60 minutes:

http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=2984

When I saw them completely cut the other home visits I thought wow, they're serious with these cuts -- only to see them, justa few seconds later, wasting minute after minute on dumb "suspense building" drama.

I think if they had re-edited the WHOLE footage of the three episodes they could have done a much better job with the editing -- instead it looked like instead of re-editing every individual segment and removing unnecessary material, the producers took a "what the ####" approach (figuring the show was cancelled anyways) and decided to just stick entire previously edited segments of the last three episodes together.

The fact that they learned of the cancellation a week before Ep5 aired and yet still opted to air Ep5 as originally designed (rather than re-edit it to include some of the original Ep6's footage and better balance the reduction in airtime) just seemed to reinforce this point.

I mean really, did we need 30+ minutes to find out the final winner?

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12. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Thanks for posting the winner. It ticks me off that this show and LCS have no freaking regard for the viewer! What about the millions that were watching these shows?

The Benefactor was bumped here for a football game preview so it was weird to be left hanging. I also had no idea about the last three eps butcher job they did.

What is the problem with the networks? At least run this stuff on cable so if we want to see it we can. Geesh.

And because I am not sure who is who, is the winner the one that wanted to design clothes? Dominic was the rock star guy? And Linda the one whose mom was hurt in an accident and was very much a sports jock type? Wow! She lied about computers? What a put on then for that challenge where she had Mark pull up her website for her because she did not know how to do computers? What a croc!

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15. "RE: The WINNER is........."
I was a fan until the end. MC wanted to see how they'd react to losing. He made some comparison to a job he got fired from. I wonder if his salary was $1 mill a year. Losing a Million is much different. He seemed to enjoy seeing them suffer. To me that went over the line
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30. "RE: The WINNER is........."
"It ticks me off that this show and LCS have no freaking regard for the viewer!"

It looks like My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss is headed in the same direction. I realize that some shows do not have as many viewers as the networks hoped, but those of us who do turn in every week are pretty loyal and deserve some more respect.

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I know this was years ago but I think they want people to stay with the channel till the end. I mean get real, they want you to stay for the whole show.


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28. "RE: The WINNER is........."
>Did anyone notice the horriblly bad
>editing on last nights show?
>And what happened to hometown
>visits to Famia & Dom??
>Just wanted to focus on
>Lindas big fat lie? I
>wish MC had told her
>off. That would made it
>worth my time. Snooze fest!!!!
> Maybe Famia should use
>some of that $$ and
>get a hairdo a little
>more tamed. She looks like
>she was stuck in a
>rainstorm for six months. ok,..
>one more rant. Dom and
>MC buddies for like? PLEASE!!!!!!!!


Why must sustahs have fake straight hair? If anyone had fuked up hair it would be the rock guy!!!
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20. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Don't forget that after Linda got booted out, she stated in front of camera that she should've borrowed one of her friends' house instead.


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This show was terrible and Mark Cuban was downright creepy. I'm glad they shortened it two weeks because otherwise, I probaby would have watched it anyway.

They saved me from two hours of hell.

ETA - I don't even care enough about this show to fix my spelling mistakes!


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..are the viewers for being spared the extra 120 minutes. Thank you ABC, much appreciated!

EASILY. WORST. SHOW. EVER.



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Worse than Forever Eden????
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Missed the whole d@nm thing!


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Finally, a show where all I know about it is Dominic and that he didn't win. And for some reason, I had to know.

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It was a good idea, but the tasks were not good enough and they didn't focus enough on the characters. Plus some of the people were bad, in terms of reality TV.

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What do you expect? Cuban picked all these people, and he's the same person who thinks Shawn Bradley is a legitimate NBA center.

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I'm an Apprentice die-hard, but the show is over and I was just trolling around...

Femia is beautiful and she seems really nice.... and she didn't whine or lay blame in the trick ending, so I guess that's worth a million dollars? (And did Cuban have a mancrush on Dominick or what?!

Ah well! I did think Cuban's little lessons - especially the one about LUCK! - were quite true about who makes it to the top and who doesn't.

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>Femia is beautiful and she seems
>really nice.... and she didn't
>whine or lay blame in
>the trick ending, so I
>guess that's worth a million
>dollars? (And did Cuban
>have a mancrush on Dominick
>or what?!
>

Femia won because Dominic butchered the English language, using the word "dude" at the end of every fricken sentence!! After hearing Dominics brutal closing speech, a Klansmen would have given Famia the money over that knitwit.

Hopefully Dominic will go back to school and learn how to speak proper English without using the word dude every third or fourth word.

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33. "RE: The WINNER is........."
Sorry Electro, but with the man-crush Cuban had on Dominic, he could have said 'dude' 10 times in each sentence and it would not have mattered. Say what you will about Cuban being a geek, dork, whatever, the man did not get to be a billionaire by making stupid business decisions like choosing possible/wannabe friendship over common- and not so common-sense. Femia had both. And, unlike the lying, conniving Linda, she was honest, sincere, and resilient (the last interview where she basically said "I'm miserable that I lost, but I'll get over it and move on"). Cuban was looking for what it takes to succeed in life - Femia had it. The drive, determination, ambition, WILL to win, pleasing personality, beauty, not brilliant but a goodly amount of intelligence, and the greatest indicator of success there is -- LUCK (as when someone remarked that although the quarterback at a charity benefit won the passing contest, he won it with a lucky pass, the quarterback laughed and said, "I'd rather be lucky than talented"). It was a low-level competition, but Femia won it, fair and square.

P.S. Plus, as Cuban showed us plainly with his offer of a college schlorship to Dominic - you can always buy friends.

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