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"The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter"
anotherkim 14419 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 08:34 PM (EST)
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"The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Let's keep all of our initial reactions, discussions and updates here tonight! Protect the West Coasters .
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 08:37 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
The Donald STILL has the f'ing comb over...URGH!
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Pepito 587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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09-10-04, 08:32 AM (EST)
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61. "RE: The Donald's Comb-Over" |
Yes, same style, but it looks different...it used to be more reddish brown, now it seems more light brown. I do believe he used a different color hair dye.
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FFantasyFX 1011 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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09-09-04, 08:53 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
First interesting twist of the night - a successful project manager is granted immunity if their team has to go to the boardroom the next week. That would mean that the immunity is wasted if a team wins two weeks in a row. Might that lead to some trying to sabotage their team's effort or simply not trying as hard during their immunity week?
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 08:56 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Next big thing...one male goes to the female side as PM and a female goes to be PM of the males! WOW! Great idea...I like it!
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-09-04, 10:13 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
I missed how that happened. Will this be the case every week?
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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 10:21 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
They didn't say, but the previews made it look as if it's possible, given Mosaic's street team.
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-09-04, 10:53 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
I think the next show will have a blowup with "The Brad" in the middle since he has an incompatible management style with the womwn on his team. However, since he has immunity, how will this impact his motivation as a leader with no end responsibility for his team's performance?
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-10-04, 00:59 AM (EST)
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53. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Yeah, of course you're right. The immunity carries over to protect him as a subordinate next week should his team lose. I like this wrinkle since it rewards PMs for showing leadership initiative by giving them a pass the following week in the event their team loses. However, if you were the PM and had this person with boardroom immunity as a subordinate, how would this impact their job assignments? Would you trust this person with a major task since they could not be held accountable at the end of the day? This may not be a factor this early in the game, but these guys are already looking at each other as fresh meat. Someone will use this pass to their benefit.
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-10-04, 01:02 AM (EST)
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55. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Mosaic...what a lame freakin name. I have to give Raj credit for trying to get it changed.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-10-04, 01:05 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
I liked the name Mosaic too. It was different. Not the same old like Apex. And I noticed both teams were throwing around the name Empire. They must of both been looking out the window at the Empire State Building when they were thinking of names.
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okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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09-10-04, 00:49 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: Pamela - Take off Your Ties!" |
"She should have kept her mouth shut! "As the Donald said, "Pamela has a hard edge." I know they're all desperate to stand out and make a good impression, but dang - that woman is beyond intense and overbearing. Her comments about the children were rude, insensitive, and uninsightful. She was focusing on their appearances when she should have been focusing on the boys' reactions to her team's prototype toy. She didn't seem to have a clue that those children were a major factor in Mattel's decision making. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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09-10-04, 00:54 AM (EST)
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51. "RE: Bradford, on the other hand, . . ." |
"remote control football player"He definitely does not belong in a "How To" book on personnel management. His unilateral decision was obnoxious and rash. He needed to listen to his team members longer. I think he knew he was in a weak position, so he used bluster to override his team. That will not win him friends or respect for future team projects. As it turned out, his idea was deemed worthless by the Mattel prototype people. Good - he needed some humbling. His team won, but not due to anything he contributed. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-09-04, 10:17 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Urinated off?
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FFantasyFX 1011 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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09-09-04, 09:24 PM (EST)
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21. "Miscue by Pamela" |
While watching the focus group, Pamela makes an off the cuff comment about one of the kid's haircut making him look like the guy from Dumb and Dumber. Unfortunately, Carolyn & the Mattel executives were definitely within earshot. This could definitely come back to bite her if Mosaic ends up in the boardroom.
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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 09:35 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: WTF is up with Stacie?" |
I just want to know how Rob's magic 8-ball got onto the set. Has MB been stealing from his other contestants again?
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seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 09:31 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Mattel thinks both projects were good. But the clear cut winner was APEX and their metamorphises vehicle. Trump says he missed saying a couple of words for the last few months. You"re Fired.
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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 09:37 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Well, the cane did sort of work. Out of eighteen people, Trump now knows who one of them is. He's the guy with the cane. And the bow tie. And the red pants. And the radio voice. And...
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 09:46 PM (EST)
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33. "I would have taken three plus myself!" |
WTF? That way you have a 25% shot instead of 33%!
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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 10:03 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: I would have taken three plus myself!" |
It's never quite straight odds, though. I think two vs. three is a character test: how much does this person try to spread the blame?
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tachuan 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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09-09-04, 09:50 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
She has to go, although she is entertaining. I love the debater, did he say he was a master debater.
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Sobe 27 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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09-09-04, 10:52 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
That Andy guy won't stay long. He probably had repeatedly said he is a master debater for at least 3 time in one episode.
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FFantasyFX 1011 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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09-09-04, 09:58 PM (EST)
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37. "Fun Boardroom Next Week" |
The Donald to Prospective Firee: You're so stupid.
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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 10:04 PM (EST)
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39. "Fun task next week." |
Oh, sure. They've moved from selling lemonade to selling ice cream. Major progress up the corporate ladder, don't you think?
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anotherkim 14419 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 10:09 PM (EST)
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40. "Wowee!" |
maybe they'll get to sell water someday....oh, wait, that was last season.
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anotherkim 14419 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-09-04, 10:36 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Wowee!" |
I didn't notice it...I was sort of shell shocked from seeing the goober drinking the Dom from the bottle after making cracks about the women's team.
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Rothschild 496 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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09-09-04, 10:26 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Crustatean Nation -- only a Harvard MBA could think of that name. How many kids know what a Crustatean is or how to say it. Pamela may be rude, but when a buyer looks for an item to market or sell, they think what will dumb and dumber like ... it's the real world, sorry ... Crustatean would not sell in Peoria ...
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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09-10-04, 10:20 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Can your kid name any dinosaurs? Were those names too hard to learn?
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okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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09-10-04, 11:16 AM (EST)
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64. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-04 AT 11:17 AM (EST)"name that they probably couldn't pronounce." Kids love to use big words made familiar through advertising. After a few cartoons or a full length movie, "Crustacean Nation" would be HOT. I think the idea had potential. ETA - Plus, the words rhyme, making them even more attractive to kids. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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Rothschild 496 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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09-10-04, 05:20 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Do you know the cost of advertising ????? Do you the cost of retail warehousing ????? Do you understand retail profit margins ???? My stomach does ...............
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Rothschild 496 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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09-10-04, 05:21 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
forgot, did you know ToyRUs is bankrupted
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okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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09-10-04, 05:28 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
"did you know ToyRUs is bankrupted "What difference does that make? The deal was with Mattell, which as far as I know has a very healthy financial picture. Mattell would have to come up with some kind of promotion - they're not going to spend a lot of money on a new toy without advertising and promotions, are they? Think Ninja Turtles, Powder Puff Girls for starters. It's not unusual to have tie ins for toys. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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Rothschild 496 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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09-13-04, 02:24 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
A manufacturer sells their product to a retailer.The health of a large volume buyer is of great interest to a manufacturer, because for some unknown reason it influences their profit. The Manhattan ToyRUs was featured in this epsiode. Sure this was a complete accident, MB CBS and Trump don't care who they feature in this show. Forgot Lobster Nation is a big CBS hit, thus a great tie in product.
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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-13-04, 02:31 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
The teams missed an obvious research opportunity by not walking down the aisles of Toys 'R Us and checking to see which toys 6-8 year old boys played with. So their ideas were all theory.
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09-14-04, 02:51 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
If you watched extra video on yahoo, you'll see that they DID do exactly that. This is where the women got the RC car idea.
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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-14-04, 11:58 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Actually, the Ninja turtles were developed as a story BEFORE the cartoon and toys. It was an edition of a role playing game system, and the focus was more mature. They dumbed it down for little kids, made lots of money, and most people never knew of its origins.
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rtrader 277 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-14-04, 03:02 PM (EST)
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81. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
"name that they probably couldn't pronounce." Kids love to use big words made familiar through advertising. After a few cartoons or a full length movie, "Crustacean Nation" would be HOT. I think the idea had potential. ETA - Plus, the words rhyme, making them even more attractive to kids. Possibly, but my impression with these type of toys is that the toys were created in response to a successful tv cartoon, movie, comic book, etc. not the other way around. While it is not impossible, from the toy company's perspective it would seem more of an unnecessary risk to create a line of "character toys", and then attempt to follow up with comic books or a cartoon show to make the toy successful. Personally, I think that is what it would have taken to make 'Crustacean Nation' successful. Better to go with a radio controlled moving car that crashes and comes apart. My two cents.
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okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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09-14-04, 05:57 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: The Apprentice Episode 1 East Coast Chatter" |
Care Bears, Strawberry Shortcake, My Little Ponies, Powder Puff Girls, She Ra, SpongeBob. I don't know for sure which came first - the story lines or the toys, but the idea of linking the two is not new when introducing a new line. A motorized car that crashes is a new idea? It's what sells, of course, but Mattel will have to come up with some kind of ad campaign to make it stand out, won't it? A plain old, "Get it NOW!" ad on Saturday morning tv would probably work, but a short video cartoon with a storyline or a promotion at McDonald's might make it sell even better. That's all I'm saying. If our opinions differ, c'est la vie. Everyone is entitled to my opinion. Off to cram for a crash course in marketing and finance.
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rtrader 277 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-15-04, 08:06 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: about the name Crustacean" |
Looking at the focus groups, two thoughts come to mind. First, the kids definitely were more excited about the radio controlled moving car than the whole Crustacean Nation character toy concept. The kids didn't like the toy, irrespective of their intelligence. I'd like to think that a couple (or all) of the kids are bright enough to know what a crustacean is, but they didn't like that toy for whatever reason. Who knows why customers like one thing over another, but that's why they run the focus groups in the first place. Letting the kids judge, they went with the RC car.Second, there was a marked difference between the way Bradford and the two ladies (Jennifer C. and Elizabeth I think) viewed the kids and the way Pamela and the two guys did. The Apex team clearly showed more respect and appreciation for the kids, and I have to wonder if Pamela and the other guy denigrating the kids in front of the executives (and perhaps the kids’ parents) swayed the Mattel folks, all the more, in going with Apex and not Mosaic.
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