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"2 teams of 3?"
lulu lemon 37 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-04, 01:57 PM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
jen and ivana are seen arguing...so they look to remain on same team.look for kevin to be sent cause he has immunity, MAYBE kelly. so apex:
kelly
ivana
jen mosaic:
kevin
sandy
andy mosaic loses the pepsi challenge, and one of andy/sandy is forced to leave next week 
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rtrader 277 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-04, 03:30 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-19-04 AT 03:38 PM (EST)so apex:
kelly
ivana
jen mosaic:
kevin
sandy
andy mosaic loses the pepsi challenge, and one of andy/sandy is forced to leave next week
> I think your teams are correct. In the previews for next week, they show one shot with Andy and Sandy near the podium area with one figure coming in the door which looked a lot like Kevin. It would also make sense that the PM for Apex would want to give up the player with immunity and that would be Kevin. I think from a creativity standpoint, Mosaic with Andy, Kevin, and Sandy is the stronger team. Since the challenge is about designing a new Pepsi bottle, they should come up with the better design. However, the second part of the challenge is to make the presentation in front of the CEO's and clearly Apex with Jennifer and Kelly would have the advantage here. It depends on whether the presentation will overshadow any defects with the bottle design. But it does look like Apex has the better chance of winning next week. Although I will be pulling for Mosaic and an upset win.
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djandy 1711 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-04, 04:58 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
I thought that Trump and Carolyn at the end of the Boardroom saying that Andy needs to step up was foreshadowing that he does just that. Andy is likely the PM on Mosaic, and Andy excels at creative tasks (and is shown saying "genius" in front of a white board with their idea on it). Andy is also a very eloquent speaker, and would make a great presenter as well. I predict that Mosaic wins with Andy's idea, and that Ivana or maybe even Jen gets fired. I used to think that Jen would be The Apprentice, but the editing of the last 2 episodes leads me to believe that she won't be. If she were a finalist then I think they would have glossed over a lot of things that Jen has done and said (telling Elizabeth to get out of the playground and grow up, scheming with Raj that she will go after Ivana to save him, not being able to understand the wheel concept, stealing credit for Ivana's idea). If she were a finalist, I don't think they would have shown these negative things about Jen. So I wouldn't be surprised if she's fired next week, although I think Ivana would be more likely. djandy
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gnosis92 78 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-04, 07:44 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
spoiler bets have been placed on jen m and kelly.
in the past, employees with inside information have made such bets. >I thought that Trump and Carolyn
>at the end of the
>Boardroom saying that Andy needs
>to step up was foreshadowing
>that he does just that.
> Andy is likely the
>PM on Mosaic, and Andy
>excels at creative tasks (and
>is shown saying "genius" in
>front of a white board
>with their idea on it).
> Andy is also a
>very eloquent speaker, and would
>make a great presenter as
>well. I predict that
>Mosaic wins with Andy's idea,
>and that Ivana or maybe
>even Jen gets fired.
>
>I used to think that Jen
>would be The Apprentice, but
>the editing of the last
>2 episodes leads me to
>believe that she won't be.
> If she were a
>finalist then I think they
>would have glossed over a
>lot of things that Jen
>has done and said (telling
>Elizabeth to get out of
>the playground and grow up,
>scheming with Raj that she
>will go after Ivana to
>save him, not being able
>to understand the wheel concept,
>stealing credit for Ivana's idea).
> If she were a
>finalist, I don't think they
>would have shown these negative
>things about Jen. So
>I wouldn't be surprised if
>she's fired next week, although
>I think Ivana would be
>more likely.
>
> djandy
>
>
>S8 ABC Red Ink Champ,
>S7 ABPABC Red Ink Champ,
>CMY FOMO Red Ink Champ
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banzai 556 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-04, 06:54 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
Thursday, November 25, 2004
The Pepsi Challenged 1. from the TV Guide ad: Donald Trump asks his six remaining proteges to design a new soda bottle for Pepsi -- and they nearly go flat. Friendships fizzle, loyalties leave a bad aftertaste, and in the end, Trump shakes up the entire brew in an explosive boardroom. 2. from the video preview: - Ivana still talks about Jenn's fembot. The feud is still on.
- The task is to design a new soda bottle for Pepsi.
- Andy writes something on the paperboard, turn around a person sitting behind a desk, and exclaims "She knows!". Sandy is writing something on the paperboard too.
- Next clip we see Kelly, Ivana, & Kevin walk to the auditorium to do the presentation.
- They didn't know they have to present their presentation in front of over 100 excutives. Ivana says she was nervous.
- One of them will go straight to the final 4 if they don't screw up. Then we hear George says if, if....
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Apex has Kevin (exempt), Ivana, Jenn M., & Kelly
Mosaic has Andy, Sandy 1. For strategy, Ivana will become PM for Apex. If she's the PM, then she can't move to Mosaic. It's like locking her position and preventing from moving.
2. It's reshuffling time. Ivana has an alliance with Kevin so they'll send Jenn to Mosaic. Jenn hijacked Ivana's idea in the Levi task. Kevin doesn't like Jenn and didn't help her in writing the presentation. They all left Jenn alone to write the presentation.
3. About loyalties leave a bad aftertaste: sounds like Apex again.
4. friendships fizzle: look like Ivana & Kevin alliance is breaking.
5. nearly go flat: either someone flip flop ideas or messed up and used up all of the budget. Since they run out of money, they probably cut corners and the ads don't look good.
6. Trump shakes up the entire brew in an explosive boardroom: look like both team didn't do well.
7. final 4: in the preview we see someone is guaranteed to be in the final four. But there're 2 PMs so shouldn't it be 2 guarrantees? Therefore, one PM and gets fired. Leaving only 1 PM who is exempt to the final 4. George says if...if could be misleading.
8. Andy exclaims "She knows". Sound like Jenn M. is in the Mosaic team and is still clueless about another innovative idea.
9. Kelly, Ivana, & Kevin walk to the auditorium together. So this is the Apex team. So I'm guessing Apex will lose. Ivana gets fired. What's your speculation?
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11-19-04, 08:55 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
All the spoilers I've read are spinning around in my head right now and something a little hard to believe like "Andy not getting fired despite losing as PM" or "Sandy PMing the Pepsi Task" has to happen for the spoilers to be consistent with one another.
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gnosis92 78 desperate attention whore postings
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11-19-04, 08:57 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
hey "banzai" i like your presentation  seems very familiar to me  i must have seen it before. i like the way you (a) present objective "evidence" or "facts"
(b) draws conclucions like a LSAT law puzzle. my points
1- i've not re-watched it yet, so i have no facts to counter your facts. so for the sake of argument i'll draw some more deductions 2- if mosaic wins, and apex loses, then andy as the pm has immunity and is thus guranteed to be the final 4. of course, the same is true of ivanna. 3- the task following this task is the last task before the final 4 and interviews, correct? 4- we know the episode count, so only 1 person will get fired. it almost certainly will be the pm of the losing team.
5- if andy wins for mosaic, sandy and jen m survive another round. b/c spoiler bets, possibly based on "inside information" was placed on jen m, not sandy, i suspect that "mosaic III" loses the last task, and sandy is fired.
6- additional facts not included below: TD says that Andy needs to step up to the plate. this strongly suggests he pm's. if the spoiler bets are true, the final 4 are
(a) if apex III wins and mosaic III loses the final task
1- andy
2- kelly
3- jen m
4- kevin. (b) if mosaic III wins and apex III loses the final task 1- andy
2- kelly
3- jen m
4- sandy
the winner will be jen m, according to spoiler bets.
banzai, while i don't know if the facts you allege are 100% accurate, but if they are, your logic and reasoning, reminds me of the kind of thinking that LSAT game puzzles are famous for "ivanna as pm is locked in and cannot move".
>Thursday, November 25, 2004
>The Pepsi Challenged
>
>1. from the TV Guide ad:
>
>
>Donald Trump asks his six remaining
>proteges to design a new
>soda bottle for Pepsi --
>and they nearly go flat.
>Friendships fizzle, loyalties leave a
>bad aftertaste, and in the
>end, Trump shakes up the
>entire brew in an explosive
>boardroom.
>
>2. from the video preview:
>
>- Ivana still talks about Jenn's
>fembot. The feud is still
>on.
>- The task is to design
>a new soda bottle for
>Pepsi.
>- Andy writes something on the
>paperboard, turn around a person
>sitting behind a desk, and
>exclaims "She knows!". Sandy is
>writing something on the paperboard
>too.
>- Next clip we see Kelly,
>Ivana, & Kevin walk to
>the auditorium to do the
>presentation.
>- They didn't know they have
>to present their presentation in
>front of over 100 excutives.
>Ivana says she was nervous.
>
>- One of them will go
>straight to the final 4
>if they don't screw up.
>Then we hear George says
>if, if....
>
>_________________________________________________
>Apex has Kevin (exempt), Ivana, Jenn
>M., & Kelly
>Mosaic has Andy, Sandy
>
>1. For strategy, Ivana will become
>PM for Apex. If she's
>the PM, then she can't
>move to Mosaic. It's like
>locking her position and preventing
>from moving.
>2. It's reshuffling time. Ivana has
>an alliance with Kevin so
>they'll send Jenn to Mosaic.
>Jenn hijacked Ivana's idea in
>the Levi task. Kevin doesn't
>like Jenn and didn't help
>her in writing the presentation.
>They all left Jenn alone
>to write the presentation.
>3. About loyalties leave a bad
>aftertaste: sounds like Apex again.
>
>4. friendships fizzle: look like Ivana
>& Kevin alliance is breaking.
>
>5. nearly go flat: either someone
>flip flop ideas or messed
>up and used up all
>of the budget. Since they
>run out of money, they
>probably cut corners and the
>ads don't look good.
>6. Trump shakes up the entire
>brew in an explosive boardroom:
>look like both team didn't
>do well.
>7. final 4: in the preview
>we see someone is guaranteed
>to be in the final
>four. But there're 2 PMs
>so shouldn't it be 2
>guarrantees? Therefore, one PM and
>gets fired. Leaving only 1
>PM who is exempt to
>the final 4. George says
>if...if could be misleading.
>8. Andy exclaims "She knows". Sound
>like Jenn M. is in
>the Mosaic team and is
>still clueless about another innovative
>idea.
>9. Kelly, Ivana, & Kevin walk
>to the auditorium together. So
>this is the Apex team.
>
>
>So I'm guessing Apex will lose.
>Ivana gets fired.
>
>What's your speculation?
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banzai 556 desperate attention whore postings
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11-20-04, 00:24 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: 2 teams of 3?" |
>seems very familiar to me To gnosis92: Oops. My bad. And I'm sorry. Now it looks like I'm hijacking your innovative analysis. Therefore, I have to conclude that Jenn M. hijacked Ivana's innovative idea. - Jenn M. finally understood the fit wheel once she saw it in her hand and loved the idea just like I understood & loved your analysis.
- She was excited with the idea, cut in and shared with the Levi president. I was also excited with these future speculation and would like to share with other DAW in the forum.
- She modified, improvised, improved, presented, and explained well. I improved & modified my analysis by adding the video preview excerpt.
- A poster above likes my analysis. The Levi president liked Jenn's presentation. This is just a case of copycat. By the time it's over, I just realize that I steal other people's idea. Again, I'm sorry for hijacking your innovative analysis.
Looking forward to see your analysis.
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