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"Casino Premier:"

SO far, so good. Tom is cute, Tim is not. They've already brought in a virgin 15 minutes into the show and teased that Agassi is coming for a visit.


Miscellaneous Ramblings
--am I the only one watching this show?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Casino Premier: Loree 06-14-04 1
 First HDTV reality show SurvivorBlows 06-15-04 2
   RE: First HDTV reality show anotherkim 06-15-04 3
       RE: First HDTV reality show ElroyJetson 06-15-04 5
           Forced? zombiebaby 06-15-04 14
       RE: First HDTV reality show SurvivorBlows 06-15-04 15
 RE: Casino Premier: zombiebaby 06-15-04 4
   RE: Casino Premier: Bebo 06-15-04 6
 good, except: cqvenus 06-15-04 7
   RE: good, except: ElroyJetson 06-15-04 9
   RE: good, except: true 06-15-04 10
 RE: Casino Premier: KScott 06-15-04 8
 RE: Casino Premier: Siren 06-15-04 11
   RE: Casino Premier: Loree 06-15-04 12
 ?Las Vegas or Casino? Pensha26 06-15-04 13
 RE: Casino Premier: wildchickenhunter 06-15-04 16
   RE: Casino Premier: ElroyJetson 06-15-04 17
       RE: Casino Premier: KScott 06-15-04 18
   RE: Casino Premier: SurvivorBlows 06-15-04 20
       RE: Casino Premier: wildchickenhunter 06-18-04 30
 RE: Casino Premier: Drive My Car 06-15-04 19
 RE: Casino Premier: theking0075 06-15-04 21
   RE: Casino Premier: SurvivorBlows 06-15-04 23
 RE: Casino Premier: Jims02 06-15-04 22
 RE: Casino Premier: Kellar 06-15-04 24
   RE: Casino Premier: mistofleas 06-15-04 25
   RE: Casino Premier: lovetowatch 06-15-04 26
 RE: Casino Premier: Estee 06-15-04 27
 RE: Casino Premier: Rockytop Chick 06-16-04 28
   RE: Casino Premier: jase 06-16-04 29
 Well, two things are good about it.... Fishercat 06-18-04 31
   RE: Casino Premier reversehalo 06-19-04 32
 RE: Casino Premier: rls73 06-21-04 33
   RE: Casino Premier: Loree 06-22-04 34
       RE: Casino Premier: ElroyJetson 06-22-04 35

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1. "RE: Casino Premier:"
And we got the transexual in the first episode.

I did chuckle at their chubby dog.

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2. "First HDTV reality show"

Btw Kim... we might not have gotten MB to film Survivor in HDTV yet, but he did film Casino in HDTV... making it the first HDTV reality show ever (although I'm assuming that Mark Cuban's The Benefactor, airing this fall, will be a close second -- after all, Cuban did found the HDNet satellite channel -- all HDTV programming, all the time)

Too bad the image quality seems slightly disappointing...

-SB

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3. "RE: First HDTV reality show"
I noticed that the quality seemed sort of flat or something. I just chalked it up to the lighting in the place.

What did you think of the show?

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5. "RE: First HDTV reality show"
What did you think of the show?

I enjoyed the show. I like their idea of transforming it into an old-school casino. That theme is no different that doing New York New York or the Luxor. Good luck to 'em.

Is it me or did some of the scenes feel a little forced?

Next week's characters seem similar to this week. We have the hard core gambler (similar to the tall guy), we have the sex freaks (similar to the Frat Pack), and we'll probably have an employee issue similar to Jon Stevens.

I'll watch!

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14. "Forced?"
Especially the scene where Joe the head entertainment guy was telling Matt Dusk(heh) to let the Lt. Governor sing. Bad acting. It is like they missed the original and told them to do it again with less emotion.



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15. "RE: First HDTV reality show"
LAST EDITED ON 06-15-04 AT 12:05 PM (EST)

>I noticed that the quality seemed sort of flat
>or something. I just chalked it up to the lighting
>in the place.

The lighting was bad in most of the scenes, I'm not sure what the deal was with that, maybe there some gaming laws or something against the use of camera spotlights. It did look very flat and "washed out" much of the time

>What did you think of the show?

To be honest, I'm thinking The Casino isn't going to be my thing. Compared to The Restaurant, give me The Restaurant any day (and I'm not even a huge Restaurant fan.) The Frat Pack storyline held no interest for me, nor did the obnoxious fiance -- I mean gambler (even the "she's a man" payoff was weak.) The most interesting thing was the staged drama with young punk Matt Dusk (who reminds me of Corey Feldman)

I just hope it gets better from here, because HDTV or not, I found myself switching to NBC's For Love Or Money about 20 minutes into Casino and recorded the rest of Casino to watch later... and that's never happened with me and a Burnett show before. But of course that just means that there's generally lots of fodder for the summary bonfire!

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4. "RE: Casino Premier:"
I liked the show. The only story I did not find that great was the Frat Party. I loved the Chuck story!

Will they be following the same people every week or highlighting different employees and guests each week?



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I always thought casinos were very strict about having cameras on the floor.

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6. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Was I the only one who kept quoting Austin Powers?

"That's a man, baby!"

Probably.

Have whip, will travel.

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7. "good, except:"

i could've lived without that pornamagraphy or whatever that crap was. basically, all that private dance crap going on in that room. i wanna see the casino, not ppl getting nasty.

whatever happened to the sanctity of "whatever happens in vegas, stays in vegas"

the card counter who ended up with the dude was HILARIOUS, though

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9. "RE: good, except:"
Porn-a-palooza!


It was more like Porno-for-losers...

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10. "RE: good, except:"
I agree with everything cq said.


I did enjoy the show, but I hope they don't focus too much on sleazy customers, and show us more how the business works, and maybe a little more gambling.



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8. "RE: Casino Premier:"
I thought it was ok, I will watch again. I am like most here and could have done without the Frat Pack but the Card counting man kissing guy was funny..

- of course it's a Slicey!
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... that was fun!"

Oh, I liked the big Rottie also!

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11. "RE: Casino Premier:"
For the most part, I really liked the show.

I gotta agree with Elroy though. The scenes not only seemed a little forced - they seemed a lot forced. The same three women were at the frat party, out hamming it up with the card counter a few minutes later, then back at the party. Hmmmm.

I like the excitement of the survelance room and casino bosses trying to follow the card counter the best. I also liked the storyline of the young singer trying to bring his vision of old school Vegas to the showroom. I hope this doesn't become a show about corrupting virgins and swingers clubs. I want to see more of the casino operations.


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12. "RE: Casino Premier:"
I noticed the same 3 women too. And the fact they were filming the high roller at the airport and arriving at the hotel seemed kind of set up to me. These reality shows are getting more and more scripted.
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13. "?Las Vegas or Casino?"
I thought I was watching Las Vegas not The Casino. I have seen this stuff before. I might watch the last show just to see wht happens at the very end, otherwise why bother.
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16. "RE: Casino Premier:"
As mentioned above i enjoyed the three women who not only were at the frat party but with the card counter at the same time.....If only they could shove a broom up their a$$ they could sweep the floor too!.

What happened with the card counter and the drag queen. I mean they cut as he was about to kiss him and then they showed him yelling something at him from upstairs then he was back in the casino with everyone making fun of him.......what happened between the kiss and him showing up at the 21 table again? How did he not know she was a he?(I know this happens on Jerry Springer, but....)



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17. "RE: Casino Premier:"
How did he not know she was a he?

I'm guessing the card counter just received some fella-latio


So that kinda sucks...

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18. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Ewwwww.....

- of course it's a Slicey!
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... that was fun!"

- didn't you love the remark that he made about what "Happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" ummmm, did he forget the cameras caught the drag queen scene?

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20. "RE: Casino Premier:"
LAST EDITED ON 06-15-04 AT 01:32 PM (EST)

>What happened with the card counter
>and the drag queen. I
>mean they cut as he
>was about to kiss him
>and then they showed him
>yelling something at him from
>upstairs then he was back
>in the casino with everyone
>making fun of him.......what happened
>between the kiss and him
>showing up at the 21
>table again?

You'll have to use your imagination as to what happened after the kiss, but the scene with him upstairs was hardly yelling -- he was cooing something to her/him about loving "that deep, sexy voice of yours" or something like that, LOL

Basically it was a clip showing how completely clueless Mr. Big Gambler was even after the bathroom encounter...

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30. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Yelling
Probably not yelling.....just my quick description of what I saw.



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19. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Shoot! I missed it.



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21. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Is this really a REALITY show? I mean why were the cameras waiting for the card counter at the airport? The show seems totally staged and I didn't really enjoy it.

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23. "RE: Casino Premier:"
LAST EDITED ON 06-15-04 AT 03:58 PM (EST)

>Is this really a REALITY show? I mean why were
>the cameras waiting for the card counter at the airport?
> The show seems totally staged and I didn't really
>enjoy it.

The show is definitely quasi-reality -- it looks like every one of these "Big Roller" or "Frat Pack" subplots are going to be folks who simply left where ever they came from knowing they'd be getting filmed for a reality show when they arrived in Vegas.

What Burnett did with The Casino is similar to what he did with The Restaurant -- run ads and casting calls looking for people who were "going to Vegas" (of course, Burnett was paying the airfare, so who's to say any of these folks were "going" to Vegas otherwise) during the filming period and felt they might make interesting TV (The Restaurant did a similar thing, looking for people who were interested in proposing, celebrating a big promotion, etc., but then the behind-the-scenes stories proved more interesting than these dumb patron stories so its focus changed.)

Here's a January casting call:

http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=2203

The frat pack was a fairly obvious example of this -- none of these guys would have been in Vegas otherwise, one of them musta just seen the ad and figured he could talk his virgin friend into letting them exploit him for a free trip to Vegas. Heck, if the guy didn't act so damn ackward, I might even wonder if he was really a virgin or if even that fake was just a ruse to get a free trip

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22. "RE: Casino Premier:"
To me, it doesn't seem "real" enough for me. I'm betting Big Chuck was invited by ol Mark Burnett to come to the Nugget. Why else would he let cameras follow him around to the suite?

The frat story was stupid, IMO. I could care less about this frat boys from who-knows-where. Shows how much of a plotline MB has going so far, if they're going to spend a third of the episode on people we're never going to see again.

Of course, they might just be "Vegas flavor" for the show. Establish a sleazy atmosphere, right? I could be watching BETTER sleaziness on MTV.

Rating: 5
A painfully average show.


The opening credits seemed to drag on and on and on...

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24. "RE: Casino Premier:"
LAST EDITED ON 06-15-04 AT 04:48 PM (EST)

First, I have a gambling problem. Second, I to have almost slept with a transsexual--a surprise like that will easily liberate you from binge drinking (picking up women these days you don’t need your wits impaired--look they can remove Adam-apples). And three, I was a croupier for three years. So, I believe I can give a professionally review of this show.

This show was the most stage piece of craps (like the table. Ha!) I have ever seen. This is not reality; this is a restaged event with time-laps and continuity problems.

I won’t comment on the casting of the frat pack or the one note plot of the singer. I will comment on the rich, high profile animated card-counter. Here’s my educated deliberation. A guy can’t sit down at ##### table and get a count going even if the deck is looking at +13, your going to need someone spotting the deck to tip you and I didn’t see anybody in security looking for that. Card counter these days is commonplace it‘s almost badge of honour for a Casino to caught you counting, and we are talking about math teachers and M.I.T. students here, but drama the owners where almost busting a nut over this one sexually frustrated “professionally” gambler. Don’t they have pit bosses? Who in the hell would have a camera crew follow them around if they where trying to do some serious gambling? And don’t even get me started on splitting nines.

Was it entertaining? It could have been. Take a camera follow some high-class call girl around for a day. Hold auditions for a new adult sex show. Film someone losing a ##### load of money. Show some old security taps of card cheating. And this show never had enough sluty Las Vegas women, more sluty Vegas women corrupting young men who knew that he should have stay away from the Caribbean Stud and never have trusted that beautiful women with the big hairy hands who bought me I mean him a drink...

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25. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Second, I to have almost slept with a transsexual--a surprise like that will easily liberate you from binge drinking (picking up women these days you don’t need your wits impaired--look they can remove Adam-apples). ....So, I believe I can give a professionally review of this show.


Of course you're entitled to your opinion of the show, but give a professional review? I think you can do that ONLY if you slept with the transsexual...professionally.


--giggles and says she thought the show was funny...stupid but that's why it was funny

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26. "RE: Casino Premier:"
I gave it a shot, hoping again and again that it was going to get better. What a bad show. The new owners are not good-looking or entertaining, the lounge act is a joke and the story lines were so completely staged that I began to laugh out loud while looking for an Alan Funt look-alike to jump out from the pit at any time.
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27. "RE: Casino Premier:"
My first reaction last night: <Poor Kim.>

Second: <Poor me...>

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28. "RE: Casino Premier:"
The staged storylines really turned me off. The "pro gambler" bothered me the most. First, I had always thought the professional card counter-gamblers tried to keep a very low profile. Casinos can ban them for life. What professional gambler would let cameras follow him from the airport? And if he was really a professional gambler, could the show and /or the owners of the Nugget get in some sort of trouble with the gaming commission for bringing a known card -counter to Vegas and putting him up in a suite? I know the casinos don't much like those guys, but how does the gaming commission view them?

I think that guy had to be an actor. They probably gave him a bunch of money to gamble with and only filmed when he won a hand.

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29. "RE: Casino Premier:"
LAST EDITED ON 06-22-04 AT 00:30 AM (EST)

I only saw parts of it and thought it was boring. I will try to catch the next episode, but I doubt I will watch this show every week.


edit: Watched the second episode and it was just as bad as the first one. This has to be one of the worst shows on tv this summer.

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31. "Well, two things are good about it..."
Considering how disappointing the premier was for me, it means two things

A) It can only get better
B) If it doesn't, this stuff is prime for a great summary for many writers.
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32. "RE: Casino Premier"
At first I thought I was watching a regular scipted TV show. This show was so fake feeling and boring I couldn't watch it for the whole hour.
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33. "RE: Casino Premier:"
I didn't see much of this show because I thought it was pretty boring. But regarding the frat party and the winner of whatever contest they were having: The woman who was the "prize" was also on a show called "Single in Las Vegas" (on the WE channel). Coincidence? Or proof that this show is staged? I choose the latter.
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34. "RE: Casino Premier:"
This show is rather boring. Who knew Vegas could be so boring?
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35. "RE: Casino Premier:"
Whaddya expect? It's downtown. The strip is where it's at!

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