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"Intriguing Sanjaya theory"
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"Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
I was talking today with a colleague who also watches Idol. We were both impressed with Sanjaya's performance last night and agreed it was his best since his audition.My friend said, wouldn't it be funny if Sanjaya came into this competition and decided to start off the competition as if he was one of the lesser talented singers, and then play upon the VFTW people, and the followers of VFTW. Then ride that wave up until a point like now, where he would come out blazing at his full talent and try to take that accumulated fanbase to the end. We both just went "Hmmmmmm....risky, but brilliant if he could do it." It still bothers me that we saw this AMAZING singer in the auditions and Hollywood rounds, and then from the top 24 until last week...not so amazing. Now this week, he's in tune, on pitch, impressing JLo. Makes you go "Hmmmmmmm....." geekboy 
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04-11-07, 08:07 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
yeah, I think so too. ^ ^ ^ it would be awesome if he did conquer his nerves, and show us what he can really do. I've seen him differently since watching his old choir video. it would be funny if VFTW's gift to the show turned out to be keeping keep him around long enough to prove he actually deserves to be in the top rounds, eh?
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04-12-07, 07:56 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
I'm surprised nobody thinks this is a feasible approach to the contest.Yes, its risky. Yes, it would be difficult to pull off. But look at the facts. 1) An unbelievable audition where he was obviously NOT nervous, and that blowed all the judges away
2) From what we saw out of Hollywood, he also did amazing
3) Top 24 on, he seemed to be a different person, not as talented, a voice that did not even come close to that which we saw in the auditions
4) An obvious VFTW candidate that has the whole country talking
5) All the judges say they thought he has talent
6) All the other contestants say he has talent
7) People across the country are admitting to voting for him because he brings entertainment value to the show.
8) Ryan and the producers are playing him up because of ratings
9) Now, at the Top 8 where the competition will start to get stiffer, vocally he shines again.
10) _IF_ he starts to show true, amazing talent, he'll have hordes of people voting for him from past shows, now continuing to vote for him because he's "improved". geekboy
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04-12-07, 09:44 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-12-07 AT 09:46 AM (EST)All that fits with someone that has talent, has nerves, but with time and exposure gets them back under control. Maybe I like to see the good in people, but I can't believe he would: 1) Risk the opportunity he was given if the plot to be so bad VFTW is the only thing keeping you around backfires.
2) Be that dastardly and calculating as to try it. Really he seems way too genuine, IMO, to be that much of an asshat. I know lots of people who have amazing talent that have the same sort of performance issues he has. Especially if he's been told all his life that he isn't really the talented one in the family. If he is anything close to a standard issue human going up on stage with that sort of message playing in your head is likely to screw up the first few performances they way it did him. Even if you have a drive to suceed those sorts of thought are very hard to overcome completely between the time he auditioned and the first round of the top 24. However, slogging throught it under continued pressure can be the sort of thing that gets some people to overcome that type of problem. Unless that whole family dynamic was just staged for the cameras as well. I guess I'd rather see him as a good kid doing his best than a cruel and calculating SOB out to get ahead even if he has to screw with millions of people and all his competition to get there. I also get the feeling from everyone on the show that Sanjaya is really really nice. People sociopathic enough to play the sorts of games you seem to be accusing him of usually cause those around them to have different feelings than the ones I've been seeing. But then again, it could be the editing and the producers could be in on it, and they won't let anyone tell anyone what an asshat Sanjaya is. Or sum such. Edited for clarity.
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04-13-07, 07:35 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
I just don't think Sanjaya has that kind of subterfuge or savvy to pull it off.Great idea for an entry at snopes.com, though. In any event, it's too little too late from Sanjaya. He's a nice lad, but too green with too little macho to make it far in the music business. Now hula dancing competitions? Maybe. 
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04-12-07, 08:55 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
I have a little different theory about Sanjaya that's less to do with how he's actively trying to portray himself and more defining his story arc...I call it the "Happy Gilmore" theory.Think about it - at first, Sanjaya is a total fish-out-of-water. The AI establishment shoots him down at every opportunity, but he has a following and is popular among people for being an entertainer, not for doing what he set out to do. The same is true of Happy Gilmore, who had a following for booming drives, dressing like a slob, and behaving oddly rather than for being a good golfer. Sanjaya is the same way - he's known better for the pony-hawk and outlandish performances than for being a good singer. However, both Happy Gilmore and Sanjaya eventually came into their own, and I think that's what is happening here. He's not in the same league as Melinda, Lakisha, or Blake, or even Jordin or Chris, but he's good. Theoretically, he's out after Phil or maybe after Chris, and he doesn't crack the top 4. However, theoretically, Happy Gilmore doesn't win the tour championship. There's only one thing missing from Sanjaya's story arc that Happy Gilmore had - an arch-rival. No one fits the bill as a rival to Sanjaya. No one is Shooter McGavin. No one is trying to bring him down. Simon Cowell, perhaps, but there's no one that he's in direct competition with. It's unclear on if his story arc will develop an arch-rival, considering that most of this field is far too classy to do such a thing. And frankly, it would have to be a favorite who would be his rival. Melinda? Not a chance. Too humble. Far too humble for most.
Lakisha? It's hard to call her a favorite.
Jordin? A 17-year-old? Not a chance.
Phil? We're looking for a favorite. The goofy-looking father of two doesn't fit.
Blake? He's too nice and too helpful, and he's a bit unusual himself.
Chris? If he were to really play up the Justin Timberlake business, he would fit. But he's been in the Bottom 3 twice, and he seems like an overall nice guy. The only hope for a nemesis for Sanjaya is really Simon Cowell himself. However, if Simon tries to bring down Sanjaya, and he ends up winning the whole damn thing, my otherwise-insane theory will have come true. Likelihood? Nah, not much chance. 
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04-12-07, 09:38 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
You hit the nail on the head. His arch-rival is Simon, and all the people out there who thought he couldn't sing, when in fact we all KNEW he could sing.The more this season moves along, the more i'm convinced that Sanjaya has as good a chance of winning it all than anyone else left. * Melinda is a favorite, but as my wife says, she's getting boring because she never changes it up
* Lakisha - classic AI retread, and getting boring. See Melinda.
* Chris - sorry, he is not a great singer, and also boring.
* Jordin - she has loads of talent, but reverts to karaoke mode alot
* Phil - meh
* Blake - At least this guy is fun and not boring. Literally, he's Sanjaya's toughest competition If the boy has conquered his nerves, or come into his own, or is now showing us what he really has in terms of talent - whichever theory you want to use - he has an excellet chance of winning this season. geekboy
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04-12-07, 02:21 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
Here's my take on Sanjaya:He is the worst singer left, however AI is not a singing competition (sorry, Simon, you are wrong) it is a voting competition. (Note to Simon - if you want a SINGING competition, put the singers in a studio, behind a curtain where nobody can see them, and give them numbers not names) Sanjaya gets votes for all the reasons discussed (teeny girls, vote4, Stern, etc) and one of the big reasons he gets votes is that he had a LOT of face time before F24, which allowed him to build a fan base BEFORE F24. He is not even the best singer in his family, yet he is one of a very FEW contestants that Fox chose to give us stories on before F24. So, the "guy with the hot sister that didn't make it" was already known, and his established dedicated fan base will continue to vote for him regardless of ability. (just like... Jasmine, John S., Kevin C., and some guy named Justin G. from season 1) Eventually they all fall, Sanjaya will to. He didn't set it up to do good, then bad, then good. Honestly, he has never been that good. Nobody is this year. Instead we are getting contestants who have tried out 3 times before, but the talent is so thin they make it through now. They haven't improved, the competition is just weak.
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04-12-07, 04:40 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
I think Sanjays is too young, and naive, to attempt such a gambit. I think he does his best every time. It usually isn't very good. His vocal ability seems limited to monotonic "easy listening" type music. I'm not dissing Tony Bennet. I'm 54 and really like him. But, I also like a variety of classic R & B, classic rock, country and contemporary singers. IMO, a successful AI must be capable of singing many genres. Sanjaya seems to lack that capability.
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04-12-07, 05:18 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
At least, thanks to the guidelines, the board can't be flooded with a slew of Sanjaya threads. The mods have already locked a few. What intrigues me most about Sanjaya is that, not only wasn't he the first boot-ee but, five weeks into the competition, unless i've missed something, he has never been in the bottom three. Eventually, I think he will be. If it takes another three weeks and there are only four left, I think he'll have to be in the bottom three. I just can't see him being the top vote getter, or AI winner ever.
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04-12-07, 05:56 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
Sanjaya has never been in the bottom. I personally don't think he will be just like Clay Aiken. The teeny boppers only have Sanjaya, Jordin and Blake to vote for really.
I really believe final 2 will be Blake and Sanjaya.
One more thing everyone knows Sanjaya but have to stop to think of who the others are in this competition, so I think if he wins it will be ok. People are just saying they would stop watching but Sanjaya is the reason most of us are still watching.
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04-13-07, 04:46 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Intriguing Sanjaya theory" |
Yepper, you're right. I remember, now. So expecting Sanjaya to get booted. And, so shocked he wasn't.
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04-12-07, 06:43 PM (EST)
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20. "If he put out a CD" |
would it be a big seller? The very thought of it is kinda funny (thinking of the ponyhawk cover photo alone amuses me), whereas the thought of a CD from Melinda or Blake doesn't give me the giggles at all.
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04-13-07, 07:49 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: If he put out a CD" |
I don't think Sanjaya's CD would outsell Hung's. Sanjaya's demeanor annoys me. I'm in the 50+ age group, but I wouldn't have liked him even as a tweenager. "Sweet young thing", either male or female, just doesn't do it for me. I want somebody with confidence entertaining me. Not a tepid milquetoast. Sanjaya's a nice kid. Of that I have no doubt. I even think he can sing in key occasionally. I just don't want him anywhere near my CD player.
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04-13-07, 04:51 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: If he put out a CD" |
I don't think a Sanjaya CD would sell well at all. Even to his tween-gal fan base. But, a DVD would probably sell like ice water in Hell. I think it's Sanjaya's looks, rather than his voice, that these gals are going for.
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04-13-07, 09:28 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: If he put out a CD" |
O I think a Sanjaya CD would definitely sell. The studio can polish up his vocals. Take Janet Jackson for instance she is a superstar and she bugs the crap outta me singing even quieter than Sanjaya no matter how I crank up the volume I can barely hear her.
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04-15-07, 00:25 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: If he put out a CD" |
he will sell a couple of CDs... eventually. then fade into oblivion. as far as im concerned, i will scream to hell if i ever find a sanjaya Cd near my cd player. i think i would burn down the freakin whole thing. sorry, but sweetness doesnt do it for me. gimme talent, MAN!
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The kid seems to know how to get and keep attention. By now we all know that most of this contest is not about singing! That's my soapbox speech....agman out 