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"Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)"
shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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03-17-04, 04:00 PM (EST)
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"Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Let's start a pool and see who can guess the date this show gets mercifully cancelled.Here is the relevant info....Monday's show drew a mere 4.5 million viewers and every episode has lost on average 1 million viewers from the previous episode. You don't need to be a tv expert to realize that that isn't very good news for "Forever" Eden. My guess is that they'll keep the show around long enough so they can end it during May sweeps in the hope that it can draw some viewers for the ending.
So, my guess is May 21, 2004 for the finale. Plus, this will give FOX a chance to hurry up and put together a Paradise Hotel 2 in time for the summer.
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jase 187 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-17-04, 11:56 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
>Hmmm. Well, they have to air twenty-five episodes: that's the contract number, and the penalty for breaking it is probably something heroically excessive. (Given that they've apparently spent twenty million on the area, additional costs would not be welcome.) And there's only so quickly they can air them: they need time slots to fill where the ratings loss won't matter much. Four episodes aired so far...they might be able to get three a week if they push it,but two is more likely over the long term, and there may be AI-crowded weeks where they can only manage one...> There's no way FOX spent $20 million on this show. The whole purpose of having reality shows like this on television is that they're cheap to put together, so spending that type of money doesn't make sense. PH ratings were okay and that wouldn't justify FOX handing out that much cash and saying 'do what you want' on a show that is a carbon copy of another reality show. If they did, they're CRAZY. Also, they can't afford to keep this going when the current weekly average is under 5 mil. viewers and dropping. That said, my guess is that double episodes could start as early as next week with the finale on April 26th. I would be surprised if it airs after that.
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Estee 57101 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-18-04, 06:26 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
There's no way FOX spent $20 million on this show. The whole purpose of having reality shows like this on television is that they're cheap to put together, so spending that type of money doesn't make sense.If you see it as a one-time investment defrayed over three years, three decades, three centuries, it makes a very small amount of sense. But that means going in believing the series will last that long. I'm willing to bet most of that was set construction: they either had to build their own hotel or find one that was doing so badly that a perpetual pool of eleven guests looked good, then purchase it. PH ratings were okay and that wouldn't justify FOX handing out that much cash and saying 'do what you want' on a show that is a carbon copy of another reality show. If they did, they're CRAZY. This is FOX. Your point is...? I took that twenty mil figure from the http://ilovereality.com/Forever_Eden/news.html article. I am considering the source on accuracy, but renovating your own hotel isn't cheap. And in the ongoing costs department, figure in one twenty-four hour on-call production staff. Explains a lot about why the prizes are so cheap. There's no money left.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-17-04, 05:54 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-17-04 AT 05:56 PM (EST) The biggest problem the show has right now is A) no one gives a crap about any of the characters, B) the "rules" are insane.
The past two Mondays of ratings -- from the first two episodes that aired without an American Idol lead-in -- have to be a wakeup call to a FOX network that only a month earlier was drawing 15-18 million for a Big Fat Fiance show in the same exact timeslot. Given that, the first thing I expect to happen is some REAL BIG BAD APPLE that causes like half the cast to be washed away in favor of some contestants that people might exactly care about. The only question is if those replacements will be some of the former Paradise Hotel folks or if FOX will want to keep the Paradise Hotel alumni's away from this thing so that it doesn't taint what everyone would assume would be the launching of a "Paradise Hotel 2" replacement series in time for the summer. Maybe they can get some of the former Big Brother folks to move in -- their CBS contracts are all well past by now and after a few years, at least some of them must be tired of hanging out at Belly's every day... and let's face it, four grand a week is more $$$ than any of them are likely to be making anytime soon. For a $200,000/year salary they should be able to have gotten MUCH better talent. -SB
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Dakota 5737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-17-04, 11:13 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
I'm going with June 14. By that time it will be nice and hot down there, unlike many of the participants. And June 14 is Flag Day. What better way to honor the USA than by taking this show off the air. I also think that FOX will find a way to spice it up and bring people in to watch in the ensuing weeks. Any network that can air something like MBFG Fiance could actually pull that off.
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lyrker 203 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-08-04, 03:50 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Given that, the first thing I expect to happen is some REAL BIG BAD APPLE that causes like half the cast to be washed away in favor of some contestants that people might exactly care aboutTherein lies the rub. I don't think it'd matter who they brought on -- they'd all end up just like the ones who are already there. There's NOTHING for them to do to interest us. The soap opera element rots, there's no real physical interest (ala Survivor/Fear Factor/etc.), there's no plot. This is the show's premise: "What if we get a bunch of single people together at a permanently open wet bar?" Not exciting enough? Throw in some arbitrary 'rules' and make the contestants vote each other off so you don't have to worry about audience input. Blehh. Boooooooooooooring. Now put the lot of them in the Brazilian rainforest with a survival kit and a pup tent and we're in business. *** "Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, it will be." - Jeremy Schwartz
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-18-04, 08:30 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
August 9th, my Birthday...damn good birthday present to see Jason walk away with $1,000,000 in gold candy coins (the big twist).
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confusedluckygrl 221 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-18-04, 09:49 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
i say April 26th...no season finale no nothing...Forever Eden will just fall off the face of the earth and no one will notice, except us...and none of us will be upset except maybe a few, no gold coins will be exchanged for money...they will have to paddle there own good looking spoiled butts out of eden, fly coach all the way home with many lay overs and then finally get home...point of this pointless babbeling is i think there will be no finale...take a wild guess but gotta bet big to win big!
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-18-04, 11:59 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Am I correct to assume that they are still taping the show and we are seeing it 2-3 weeks after the tape? And those poor pathetic souls are still there?
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RebelYell 152 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-24-04, 09:51 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
excellent point, wch. It can't lose a million viewersa week now because they don't have a million to lose. They'll at least have 1 Nielsen box set to it on Thursday ...I haven't seen or read anything about why the change from Monday to Thursday, but a time-slot change is often the first clue to an early demise. I'm still going to take the longshot and guess that at some point this show picks up some steam. Once it does, it will become a staple in our homes until 2007, when a maniac named Dave -- after extensive plastic surgery -- appears on the show as a dorky Northeastern know-it-all who is exceptionally good at tennis and exhibiting his "manteets." Dave also smuggles a semi-automatic gun into "camp" and kills three contestants, one crew member and wounds five others, including his love interest, before being taken alive in a hostage standoff. Ruth is taken with the hostages and she overpowers Dave and saves the day. Of course, the show gets pulled off the air two weeks before the event so all we get to do is read about it on this message board. Like I said, I'm taking the longshot.
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Skiver 1118 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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03-18-04, 08:45 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
I guess it will go on forever! - Or at least until the end of broadcasting as we know it. (No one's taken that position yet, so this is a canny move, I think - although admittedly there may be a little difficulty deciding when I should be named the winner). Don't scoff too soon. It could happen, if they move it to FX. They could also go a little more graphic on cable, drawing in more of the core demographic of leering losers. It could trundle along with an audience of a million or so trouserless troglodytes, and never end. My alternate pick is April 8th. Skiver
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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03-21-04, 00:04 AM (EST)
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19. "Is this still on??" |
Give me May 3. I don't think it will last that long, but all the interesting dates are taken (just like prom night).Maybe they'll push it into May for one sweep week, and use it to promote their next debacle: My Big Fat Obnoxious Tumor -- Surgical interns compete for the opportunity to remove the spleen, liver, pancreas and funny bone from a large guy with a red light bulb for a nose. These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-22-04, 02:17 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Well according to the FOX website the show isn't on tonight. It is on Thursday night. So they are already moving it into a timeslot against The Apprentice and CSI. Do they really think it will pick up viewers in that slot?
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-22-04, 03:03 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Darn, I was looking forward to watching it tonight.
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Chrissy gal 1413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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03-22-04, 09:21 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
According to Yahoo TV it is on Thursday this week and no scheduled air date next week (Yahoo lists two weeks at a time):Listings Search Results Searched next 14 days for "Forever Eden" - found 1 matches (1-1 below) Sort: By Relevance | Chronologically • Forever Eden KTXL, Thu Mar 25 09:00pm PST Can I choose March 25th???
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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03-23-04, 02:24 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
It's scheduled for April 1st in my area.
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RollDdice 5739 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-23-04, 04:16 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Was Paradise Hotel painfully good or painfully bad?As I recall, there were some very spirited discussions, summaries and contestant bashing at the time. The problem is that Forever Eden doesn't have the same kind of drama that P-Ho demonstrated.
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Chrissy gal 1413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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03-23-04, 04:07 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
As usual you are right managerr. Here is the Yahoo listing today:Listings Search Results Searched next 14 days for "Forever Eden" - found 2 matches (1-2 below) Change Date Range: Next 7 DaysNext 14 DaysNext 24 Hours • Forever Eden KTXL, Thu Mar 25 09:00pm PST • Forever Eden KTXL, Thu Apr 01 09:00pm PST I guess I jumped the gun (which has to be better than jumping the shark, right?)!
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Angel73 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-25-04, 02:09 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
Well people, for some odd reason I feel that June 3rd will be the last show. The producers of the show are probably getting a little desperate right now, since the ratings suck. So hopefully they will start being more creative so they can pull in some more viewers. But I really doubt the producers are that smart?? So my bet is for June 3rd. ~LATER~
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-25-04, 08:14 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
I'm guessing they want to wrap this show and lick their wounds and get on to more important things. Like Forever Eden II, the return of the losers (or those still there).
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silesia18 36 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-08-04, 02:28 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Try to guess the date this show gets cancelled (win valuable prizes)" |
maybe if they quit moving the flippin' show around they wouldn't be losing so many viewers! i never know when the next episode will be!
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kelli_blue 301 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-14-04, 06:47 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: April 5th = Winner? " |
I keep forgetting to watch it now that it's on FRIDAY nights. That is such a bad night for a show like that. Is it on hiatus now, or should I try and remember to tune in this Friday?
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arkiegrl 9421 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-15-04, 09:45 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: April 5th = Winner? " |
Could we be so lucky that the cast is left out there forever, then?
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confusedluckygrl 221 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-15-04, 10:54 AM (EST)
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44. "RE: April 5th = Winner? " |
NOOOOOOOOO say it aint so. What am i left to do with my (insert what ever date the show has or will be moved to here) nights!
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