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DooWahDitty 1615 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 12-19-05, 09:53 PM (EST) "Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" Bill Rancic is staying on instead of leaving, according to DT on Larry King Live tonight. I would be interested in people's thoughts about why we don't hear much about The Apprentices after they win. I've put some thoughts out on another thread, but curious as to what others think about this entire issue. Particularly interested in analytical rather than cynical comments. Sigpic by Seana   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... CantStandToLook 12-20-05 1    RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... singer 12-20-05 2        RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... DooWahDitty 12-20-05 3            RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... CantStandToLook 12-20-05 4                RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... JoshInSGV 12-23-05 5                    RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... lrlr1 01-09-06 6                        RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... DooWahDitty 01-09-06 7                        RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... singer 01-10-06 8                            RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... lrlr1 01-10-06 9                                RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... singer 01-10-06 11                                    RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... lrlr1 01-11-06 12            RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kell... lrlr1 01-10-06 10

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CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-20-05, 02:51 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" I think it's about image and timing. Bill had the image that Trump wanted for his company and that's why his face has been plastered everywhere everytime Donald gets the opportunity. Kelly, like Randall was the most qualified but probably not who Trump really wanted to hire and Kendra's who season was just a media stunt. There weren't many in that group that could have lasted 1 week with anyone from the other three seasons. The timing aspect of it comes in that there was more time between the original Apprentice and season two than I believe there have been between the last three and especially the last two. It may have actually been the same amount of time but I get a strange feeling that these last two seasons ran almost back to back thus not really giving the new apprentice time to have done anything that Trump can flash on TV. Nonetheless, Bill is obviously Trumps poster boy and the others aren't likely to get much if any recognition at all. IMHO. That's right , you're fired..get out already   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

singer 1910 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 12-20-05, 09:33 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" I get the impression that Boyfriend Bill cannot make it on his own. If he leaves the Trump organisation, it will become even more apparent to the public that he does not have what it takes to become a billionaire on his own, as Kwame has. --Singer   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

DooWahDitty 1615 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 12-20-05, 10:26 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" On the contrary, I think he's quite capable of making it on his own. Like CSTL said, it's about timing and being the poster boy. Randal is a class act and boosts the credibility (somewhat) of The Apprentice. Bill can profit by that, plus other things that are probably going on behind the scenes. Unlike CSTL, however, I don't believe Kelly and Kendra are being kept under wraps for any other reason than avoiding a crowded pr campaign. Kendra's season was the most lame, and she got the lamest job of the lot. Maybe she's happy with it, maybe she's not. Who knows? One thing is certain, she'll effectively utilize that position as a stepping stone to better things. Same with Kelly. Sigpic by Seana   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CantStandToLook 6254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-20-05, 02:21 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" I think that Randall should definitely boost the credibility of the Apprentice and if DT decided to really pull the race card, parading him and Bill around would probably actually benefit the show. The shame is that we'd never really know if he really liked Randall or if he was just trying to silence his critics and generate positive PR for the show and himself. I still think that Kelly just doesn't have the ability to come off non-robotic on TV and that's why he's keeping him out of the spotlight though he's probably one of the best hires he's made. (I dont really see Bill as the best Apprentice ever but he's got the look Trump wants IMO). With regard to Kendra, I believe DWD hit the nail on the head. She came from a crappy season of crappy candidates so being the best of that crowd was definitely nothing spectacular. That's right , you're fired..get out already   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

JoshInSGV 737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 12-23-05, 02:46 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" I agree that Bill does have the image that Trump probably wants for The Apprentice. He's young, good-looking, and well-liked on the most part. Kelly may be qualified but he lacks any type of charisma. Neverthelss, Kelly is starting to rear his ugly head in The Apprentice. He had a cameo appearance on the finale of the third season and another cameo in this last season. Kendra is just too new to be featured in anything at this time. I would like to see her on-screen again. I was very disappointed at the tasks that we're offered to Kendra and Tana in the finale of the third season. They seemed very remedial level compared to the projects that were offered in other seasons, which is a shame because I think Kendra has much more to offer than just renovating a stupid mansion.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 01-09-06, 09:04 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" The prizes were remedial (overseeing the renovation of DT's private residence and the Miss Universe contest) because DT did not like, respect and had no confidence in either of them. So you may want to see more of Kendra but I think you will be sorely disappointed (not me. I was totally unimpressed by her). DT complained the whole season that had he his druthers, he would have chosen no one from Street Dummies or Book Dummies as candidates for the show. I think he feels relief that Kendra is out of sight, and will likely keep her that way. As for Kelly, I do not feel DT cares for him. IMO the only reason he made the first cameo was because everyone was noticing Bill's high visibility, but where was Bill? And, since DT shamelessly exploited/disgracefully defamed Jenn W(?) (who I still feel should have won - and probably did since DT never let us know how much each sales event took in - remember?), he had to at least pretend Kelly has turned out to be an asset to his organization. But I don't get any vibe that he's at all impressed by Kelly's capabilities. So what it boils down to, is that so far, Bill is the only Apprentice that 'fits in' with DT. JMHO P.S. And I, too, wonder why Bill isn't getting out of Dodge; if maybe he can't or is afraid he can't make it BIG on his own. After all, as Singer pointed out, his competition, Kwame, is now a Billionaire!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

DooWahDitty 1615 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 01-09-06, 09:33 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" Good assessment and probably more than a little truth to it. Sigpic by Seana   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

singer 1910 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 01-10-06, 11:14 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" Your positions make sense to me, lrlr1. And as far as Kwame is concerned, the numbers speak for themselves. The bottom line in business is to go where the money is. If Boyfriend Bill were able to spearhead a venture that made billions, then he would likely leave the Trump organisation. But he apparently does not have the bona fides. The Donald seems to have "trumped up" Boyfriend Bill's abilities. (Remember how Boyfriend Bill criticised Kwame's academic background in the final boardroom?) --Singer   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 01-10-06, 12:36 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" I don't recall Bill ever critizing Kwame, certainly not his academic background. Bill has a BS from, I believe, Northwestern, an academically Top 10 school. Kwame has an MBA, I believe, from Harvard. So what's to critize? I think you may be thinking of Troy in the Final 3, who compared his high school diploma to their college degrees, saying in effect, to look at what he's achieved; that it was equal to the 2 college boys achievements. Whereupon DT said that he did not think "having a college education is a bad thing". Troy did half-way diss Bill's undergraduate degree but Bill snapped back, saying he graduated summa cum laude and that if he wanted to go on to get a graduate Degree that he could have. At least, this is the way I remember it. Was there another incident?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

singer 1910 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 01-10-06, 02:37 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" "At least, this is the way I remember it. Was there another incident?" There was another incident during the final boardroom. Boyfriend Bill stated that his Loyola degree and his experience outpaced Kwame's Harvard degree and experience. (Not true on either count, but there we are.) He stated that Kwame's academic background might not be as practical as his own work experience. (He conveniently ignored Kwame's experience working in an investment bank.) So he was critical of Kwame's academic background, and he also tried to diminish its importance. And The Hair bought the argument. --Singer   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 01-11-06, 04:37 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" >"At least, this is the way >I remember it. Was there >another incident?" > >There was another incident during the >final boardroom. Boyfriend Bill stated >that his Loyola degree and >his experience outpaced Kwame's Harvard >degree and experience. (Not true >on either count, but there >we are.) He stated >that Kwame's academic background might >not be as practical as >his own work experience. (He >conveniently ignored Kwame's experience working >in an investment bank.) > >So he was critical of Kwame's >academic background, and he also >tried to diminish its importance. > And The Hair bought >the argument. > >--Singer Now that I have no problem with. In the boardroom you are supposed to try to diminish your opponent in any way you can, and it is your opponent's job to show you up, as well. As to The Hair buying the argument, nah. The Hair had chosen Bill before they even made it into the boardroom. And according to Kwame, even before the final task. But in the final analysis, Bill's team outshone Kwame's (not Bill outshone Kwame, but his team did a better job than Kwame's. Remember on the last show when Kwame sat away 3 or 4 people and the row down from Omarosa? He knew she had messed up and didn't appreciate it).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 01-10-06, 01:11 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Bill re-negged on leaving, Kelly and Kendra doing well" > Randal is a class >act and boosts the credibility >(somewhat) of The Apprentice. >Bill can profit by that, I agree with this wholeheartedly. Even the "(somewhat)" but only because of the tacky, off-putting way DT went about the season's finale (getting people mad at Randal - whew! - because he wouldn't share his crown with the runner-up!). But with Randal standing in the winners circle with him, Bill wins, too. NOTE: Rebecca standing in there beside them would actually diminish Bill's prestigue and viability in the any future business endeavors. Think about it! Kendra's season was >the most lame, and she >got the lamest job of >the lot. Maybe >she's happy with it, maybe >she's not. Who knows? > One thing is certain, >she'll effectively utilize that position >as a stepping stone to >better things. Same with >Kelly. > Agreed. In the final analysis, as disgusting as DT can be, and IS, there's no one bigger than him with more corporate business AND social contacts they are likely to meet whose name they can legitimately throw around. Just look at the celebrity women Bill has dated since he won in the first season!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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