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Estee 56934 desperate attention whore postings
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"Trope Of The Day IX: you're entitled."
In which we explore the world of trope things which Rush Limbaugh has no comprehension of, also known as 'pretty much everything'.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 #801 Estee 05-14-14 1
   RE: #801 dabo 05-14-14 2
   RE: #801 Molaholic 05-14-14 3
       RE: #801 snidget 05-14-14 5
   Once again I became distracted. kingfish 05-14-14 4
 #802 Estee 05-15-14 6
   RE: #802 kingfish 05-15-14 7
 #803 (stock character type) Estee 05-16-14 8
   RE: #803 (stock character type) dabo 05-16-14 9
 #804 (good science teachers... Estee 05-17-14 10
   RE: #804 (good science teac... dabo 05-17-14 11
   RE: #804 (good science teac... snidget 05-18-14 12
 #805 Estee 05-18-14 13
   ooo.. shiny! dabo 05-18-14 14
   RE: #805 kingfish 05-19-14 15
       RE: #805 dabo 05-19-14 16
           RE: #805 kingfish 05-19-14 19
 #806 Estee 05-19-14 17
   RE: #806 dabo 05-19-14 18
   RE: #806 kingfish 05-19-14 20
 #807 Estee 05-20-14 21
   RE: #807 kingfish 05-20-14 22
 #808 Estee 05-21-14 23
   RE: #808 kingfish 05-21-14 24
       RE: #808 Estee 05-21-14 25
 #809 (Goodbye, Colby Woo) Estee 05-22-14 26
   RE: #809 (Goodbye, Colby Wo... kingfish 05-22-14 27
   RE: #809 (Goodbye, Colby Wo... dabo 05-22-14 28
 #810 Estee 05-23-14 29
   RE: #810 kingfish 05-23-14 30
 #811 Estee 05-24-14 31
   RE: #811 kingfish 05-24-14 32
       RE: #811 cahaya 05-24-14 33
           RE: #811 kingfish 05-28-14 37
 #812 Estee 05-27-14 34
   A bloody lament kingfish 05-27-14 35
   RE: #812 Molaholic 05-30-14 40
 #813 Estee 05-28-14 36
   RE: #813 kingfish 05-28-14 38
 (Not numbered), The ESTEE trope. kingfish 05-30-14 39
   After a great deal of thought -- Estee 05-31-14 42
       RE: After a great deal of thought -... kingfish 05-31-14 43
 #814 Estee 05-31-14 41
   RE: #814 dabo 05-31-14 44
 #815 (have you met our former VP?) Estee 06-01-14 45
 #816 Estee 06-02-14 46
   RE: #816 kingfish 06-02-14 47
       RE: #816 Molaholic 06-04-14 54
 RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're en... Estee 06-03-14 48
   RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're en... kingfish 06-03-14 49
       #817 Estee 06-03-14 50
           RE: #817 kingfish 06-03-14 51
 #818 Estee 06-04-14 52
   RE: #818 kingfish 06-04-14 53
 #819 Estee 06-05-14 55
   RE: #819 kingfish 06-05-14 56
   RE: #819 kidflash212 06-05-14 57
       RE: #819 kingfish 06-05-14 58
           RE: #819 kidflash212 06-05-14 59
 #820 Estee 06-06-14 60
   RE: #820 kingfish 06-06-14 61
 #821 (TV series) Estee 06-07-14 62
   RE: #821 (TV series) Molaholic 06-08-14 63
 #822 Estee 06-09-14 64
   RE: #822 kingfish 06-09-14 65
 #823 Estee 06-10-14 66
   RE: #823 kingfish 06-10-14 67
 #824 Estee 06-11-14 68
   RE: #824 kingfish 06-11-14 69
 #825 (ruining Kingfish's day) Estee 06-12-14 70
   RE: #825 (ruining Kingfish's day) kidflash212 06-12-14 71
   RE: #825 (ruining Kingfish's day) kingfish 06-12-14 72
 #826 Estee 06-13-14 73
   RE: #826 kingfish 06-13-14 74
 #827 (on a ninety-degree day) Estee 06-17-14 75
   The Kingfish theory kingfish 06-17-14 76
 #828 (site trivia) Estee 06-18-14 77
   RE: #828 (site trivia) kingfish 06-18-14 78
 #829 Estee 06-19-14 79
   The possibilities! kingfish 06-19-14 80
 #830 Estee 06-21-14 81
   RE: #830 kingfish 06-21-14 85
 #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier brea... Estee 06-21-14 82
   RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier ... kidflash212 06-21-14 83
       RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier ... Estee 06-21-14 84
   RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier ... dabo 06-22-14 86
       RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier ... kingfish 06-22-14 87
 #832 (every bad high school footba... Estee 06-23-14 88
   RE: #832 (every bad high school fo... kingfish 06-23-14 89
 #833 (too. many. examples.) Estee 06-24-14 90
   RE: #833 (too. many. examples.) cahaya 06-24-14 91
   RE: #833 (too. many. examples.) dabo 06-24-14 92
 #834 (Hamster debut day) Estee 06-25-14 93
   RE: #834 (Hamster debut day) kingfish 06-25-14 94
 #835 Estee 06-26-14 95
   RE: #835 kingfish 06-26-14 96
 RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're en... Estee 06-27-14 97
   RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're en... kingfish 06-27-14 98
 #836 Estee 06-28-14 99
   RE: #836 kingfish 06-30-14 100
 #837 Estee 07-01-14 101
   RE: #837 kingfish 07-02-14 102
   RE: #837 cahaya 07-02-14 103
 #838 Estee 07-02-14 104
   RE: #838 kidflash212 07-07-14 107
 #839 Estee 07-04-14 105
   RE: #839 kingfish 07-07-14 106
       RE: #839 cahaya 07-07-14 108
 #840 Estee 07-08-14 109
   RE: #840 kingfish 07-08-14 110
       RE: #840 Estee 07-09-14 112
           RE: #840 kingfish 07-10-14 116
 #841 Estee 07-09-14 111
   Sorcerer's Apprentice card lore cahaya 07-09-14 113
 #842 Estee 07-10-14 114
   RE: #842 kingfish 07-10-14 115
 #843 Estee 07-11-14 117
   RE: #843 kingfish 07-11-14 118
 #844 Estee 07-12-14 119
   RE: #844 cahaya 07-12-14 120
   RE: #844 kingfish 07-12-14 121
 #845 Estee 07-14-14 122
   RE: #845 kingfish 07-14-14 123
 #846 Estee 07-15-14 124
   RE: #846 kingfish 07-15-14 125
 #847 Estee 07-17-14 126
   RE: #847 kingfish 07-21-14 128
 #848 (does not exist in reality) Estee 07-21-14 127
   RE: #848 (does not exist in realit... kingfish 07-21-14 129
 #849 (Mr. Ham would not have picke... Estee 07-22-14 130
   RE: #849 (Mr. Ham would not have p... kingfish 07-22-14 131
 #850 Estee 07-24-14 132
   RE: #850 kingfish 07-24-14 133
 #851 (about to expire as a trope) Estee 07-28-14 134
   RE: #851 (about to expire as a tro... kingfish 07-29-14 135
 #852 (last night's cinematic exper... Estee 07-31-14 136
   RE: #852 (last night's cinematic e... kingfish 07-31-14 137
       RE: #852 (last night's cinematic e... Estee 07-31-14 138
   RE: #852 (last night's cinematic e... kidflash212 07-31-14 139
 #853 (Chris McDaniel) Estee 08-05-14 140
   RE: #853 (Chris McDaniel) dabo 08-05-14 141
   RE: #853 (Chris McDaniel) kidflash212 08-05-14 142
 #854 (not Ann Coulter) Estee 08-07-14 143
   RE: #854 (not Ann Coulter) kidflash212 08-07-14 144
   RE: #854 (not Ann Coulter) dabo 08-07-14 145

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Estee 56934 desperate attention whore postings
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05-14-14, 10:07 AM (EST)
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1. "#801"
LAST EDITED ON 05-14-14 AT 10:46 AM (EST)

The human body is completely understood. Science has mapped out just what we are and are not capable of.

And thus we start this thread out with a giant lie.

In fiction, the body can be modified. Those with powers need an assortment of internal systems which will make them work. Sometimes those systems can be installed after the fact. Maybe this organ does something no one ever suspected. Perhaps you've got a little internal partner providing a boost. Look towards inner space space and find infinite possibilities flowing within cells. Because in fiction, we are not understood -- and that lack of knowledge opens up so many possibilities.

But real life doesn't allow for any such things, right?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BizarreHumanBiology

Check out the Real Life section of this trope.

There are people out there with powers. Real ones, scientifically proven. Inborn abilities which the human genetic code throws out now and again. And how can that happen?

Who knows?

We're snails at the control of a spaceship. We understand the function of the ride and some of the functions have been identified. But the question of What Does This Button Do? goes on...

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05-14-14, 10:22 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: #801"
Vamp me up, I dig those nifty fangs.
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3. "RE: #801"
Just my luck, reading the sex-ed piece after finishing that chapter with my 7th graders.
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5. "RE: #801"
Might be a useful description for an abstinence only curriculum.


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4. "Once again I became distracted."
This time the cause was the bit about "7 Terrifying Things They Don't Tell You About Pregnancy" under the Real Life examples.

First, I'd like to get down on my knees and beg forgiveness for what I and my big head put my petite mother through. She did it four times, and we all had big heads. Of course, Dad has to take some of the blame too.

One Mother’s Day a year isn’t nearly sufficient to express our gratitude to our mothers. 365 would be more like it.

And to all mothers out there, I’m in awe.

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05-15-14, 06:46 AM (EST)
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6. "#802"
American fiction works typically need an excuse to get their main character nude and soaking in a tub. Admittedly, it's usually a pretty basic, threadbare excuse which centers around 'We really want a nude scene: get the clothes off'. But still, some sort of excuse is generally required to have it as a scene the viewer gets access to instead of a background portion of the character's life.

In Japan, the culturally-determined pre-excuse is 'I went home.'

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FuroScene

Works every time.

Related topic: hot springs episode.

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7. "RE: #802"
And, of course, us westerners added water jets. So men get naked women in tubs, and women get...water jets. Everybody's happy.
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8. "#803 (stock character type)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PrivateDetective

And since we could spend three hours on examples from any given month, let's not.

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9. "RE: #803 (stock character type)"
Not even a nod to Poe? That is just wrong, there should be some acknowledgement of the prototype. All those Edgars just collecting dust.
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10. "#804 (good science teachers)"
...I have this sudden urge to attend the University Of Missouri.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EducationThroughPyrotechnics

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11. "RE: #804 (good science teachers)"
Bill Nye the Science Guy embraced this trope. "And now, for a really big chemical reaction."..... BOOM.

And he's actually just an engineer.

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12. "RE: #804 (good science teachers)"
I know a scientist who wasn't a science major until his intro chemistry class when the professor reviewed the table of the elements by blowing each one up.

My Dad (a chemist) was going to be working with a new catalyst and they took them all out back for a safety demonstration. There was a round bottom flask with a tiny bit of residue on the glass. They attached it to a ring stand with a clamp and lowered it down into a deep hole they had dug. They then sent a small amount of water through a bit of plastic hosing into the flask.

After the mushroom cloud cleared...

They pulled up the ring stand and the glass flask was gone, and the steel clamp was sheared off halfway to the ring stand.

Needless to say, Dad didn't put any of the glassware in the dishwasher.

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13. "#805"
Where does a robot keep its soul?

Robots can't have souls, most would say. What if there was a component which made that silicon personality everything it was? And it was completely integral to the body -- to the point where it couldn't be installed in anything else. Couldn't be repaired most of the time, was barely understood even by the robot carrying it, and if it ever broke -- that was it. You could rebuild the robot a thousand ways and you'd just have a shell which quietly fell over. The individual would be gone.

Only flesh can hold a soul, you say?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeartDrive

Then let metal contain a spark.

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05-18-14, 02:19 PM (EST)
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14. "ooo.. shiny!"

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15. "RE: #805"
LAST EDITED ON 05-19-14 AT 08:50 AM (EST)

A discussion of the soul of a robot touches on a subject that has bothered me for a while, inter-sentient entity marriage. I think if a robot and a human are consenting and of age, that there should be no laws prohibiting or restricting a legal marriage between the two, till rust do they part. They of course would be entitled to sign a periodic maintenance agreement that includes a provision for the care and oiling of all issues from the union, and an equitable division of all recharging stations.

And if one of the two consenting partners has to be orally inflated occasionally, well, what happens in the privacy of one's bedroom is their business, not ours.



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16. "RE: #805"
What is "of age" to be a consenting sentient robot?
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05-19-14, 10:25 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: #805"
If it bleeds oil...
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17. "#806"
For the Discworld, consider the jail system in Ankh-Morpork. Those put on death row will find in their cell a very large stone -- about tunnel-crawl size -- surrounded by very old mortar. The stone will appear to have once been used for chaining prisoners to the wall: chain gone, eyelets remain. The stone is within an outer wall. And an attentive prisoner should, if he's careful be able to snag a spoon from the dinner tray.

From this point on, the process is simple. The prisoner simply uses the spoon to scrape away the mortar. (Disposal of the fragments is the prisoner's problem.) If the prisoner is diligent, careful, times the guard shifts, and puts all his spare time into it, he will find that on the day of his execution, he will have A. worn the spoon away to nothing and B. have a clear shot at pulling the stone free. Exerting every last bit of muscle power on the eyelets will then create a passage...

...revealing another stone. Freshly mortared. And, helpfully provided, a brand-new shiny spoon.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThwartedEscape

The Patrician believes in occupational therapy.

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18. "RE: #806"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjF8sjuPLxU
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20. "RE: #806"
LAST EDITED ON 05-20-14 AT 08:06 AM (EST)

I think Terry Pratchett must have had some frustrations in his life.

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21. "#807"
What a convenient handle.

What a helpful place to keep it.

What a tremendous amount of damage I could do any time I liked.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NecktieLeash

...that is why you're wearing it, right?

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05-20-14, 08:23 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: #807"
Not exactly on topic (on trope?), but machine shops are no place for neckties. However, if you want to see your boss’s nosy a’hole son get his neck broken, invite him to lean over your lathe and inspect your work.
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23. "#808"
Happiness is mandatory.

Only a traitor would be unhappy, so unhappiness constitutes treason.

Traitors are executed.

Are you happy?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DystopianEdict

Helpful hint: the answer is 'Yes'.

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24. "RE: #808"
Is this a subtle dig at the NBA society of political correctness that would take an owners team away for transgressing on its rules of behavior in private conversations?
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25. "RE: #808"
Gosh, I wish the NBA would force me to make a billion dollars.
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26. "#809 (Goodbye, Colby Woo)"
Let's just let the trope name say it all.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HonorBeforeReason

But at least Keith Kass didn't win!

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27. "RE: #809 (Goodbye, Colby Woo)"
Neither did Tai Kwando Woo.

Honor before a Million dollars is his credo.

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28. "RE: #809 (Goodbye, Colby Woo)"
To be fair to Woo, FTC went hard on Tony exactly as he thought it would. Had not Spencer been allowed to turn lawyer in the end and give a summation favoring Tony and trashing Woo, based only on his own singular perception of which one had beaten him really, Woo would have had it in the bag.
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29. "#810"
To paraphrase the trope page: you can figure out the laws of time and space...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EinsteinHair

...but not a comb.

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30. "RE: #810"
I think what's also implied has to do with the wardrobe. Two week underwear. The clothes hamper as an in and out basket.

You just can't have a brilliant mind be a suave debonair chick magnet.

Like me.

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31. "#811"
You just wrote a military adventure novel.

In every possible way, you out-Clancied the master. The technical jargon is piled hip-deep. Your knowledge of procedure is impeccable. You are completely familiar with the military mindset and have written the characters accordingly. And you blew stuff up real good. For the requirements of the summer beach 700-pager genre, you rocked.

There's just one problem.

You're female.

And men don't read military adventure novels written by women. So the publishers claim, and why would a bunch of repressive sexists lie to you about the behavior of other repressive sexists?

Fortunately, they know a cure.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoustacheDePlume

The age of this trope is depressing. Its continued survival even more so. The fact that it's not going away any time soon? I'm going back to bed...

Note that this also applies to female sexism against males. Go on, try to get a gothic romance barnburner published. Just try it.

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32. "RE: #811"
So let's make a deal.

You write your Military Fiction thrillers under my name, and I'll write my Romance novels under your name.

And we'll both make zero dollars.

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33. "RE: #811"
Pick a name from this list and you can double your zero dollars!

Let's start with Friendly Fire by Pat Loveridge.

Last names that start with Love can be found in this list. Lovenbury might be a more apt name for the twin themes.

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37. "RE: #811"
Gender ambiguous names would solve this problem. Except that both manly military fiction and Romance fiction seem to require unambiguous names like Sgt. Rockhard McKillerstein, or Monique de Heart-Throbingforyeaux.

BTW, you heard it here first; my Romance novel nom de plume is Monique de Heart-Throbingforyeaux. I think Kingfish is sufficient for military action novels, don’t you? Don’t you picture a sweaty-bloody fist tightly holding an exploding hand grenade when you see that name?

(I know, Estee thinks I should pose for that cover picture. She's such a kidder.)

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34. "#812"
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Blood is red.

Initially.

Oh, as long as it stays in the body, it'll keep the normal color. But let it out into the open air and you'll get a reminder of basic fact: blood has a lot of iron in it. And iron? Oxidizes. Give blood enough exposure to atmosphere and parts of it will start to rust. Red goes to brown with orange elements. Given enough time and sunlight, it might just bleach white. Let months pass and you'll need a chemical analysis to tell a bloodstain is something other than a place where someone left a hammer out in the rain for a few days.

But red is an attention-getting color. Red screams danger. Red is the hue of shock and horror. And when someone walks into a former abattoir, who wants to see them chemically sorting through brown flakes?

Therefore, in the fictional worlds, you get

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RustproofBlood

Also, each living body holds approximately seventy gallons.

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35. "A bloody lament"
"Well, goodbye world,
It's sad but true,
Got a date with the hangman,
I have to leave you.

I shot my darlin',
Three times or more,
The reason I'm goin',
Is blood on the floor."

The color of the blood was left out of the record.

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40. "RE: #812"
Of course, Vulcan blood is green (as it's copper based) and Klingon blood is purple. Not to sure of the colors of any other of the Trek aliens.
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36. "#813"
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Robotic duplicates: aren't they handy? They can attend meetings which you can't be bothered with. Give you the appearance of having shown up in two or more places at once. Serve as your voice when you're busy with something else. And if you're the bad guy, they serve one other vital function.

They die.

Send one out against the heroes. Have it lose. Spectacularly. Preferably in a way where the body is clearly dead, but the good guys can't reach it for analysis. And when they think you're dead, go about your evil scheme as per usual, only this time with a total lack of hero interference. It's a wonderful tactic.

It's also a cliche'.

Some characters pull this off a lot. Too much. As an excuse for anything whatsoever. Lost a fight? That was the robot. Stalled out in an argument? Robot. Seen eating in a diner? Robot. Series changed writers and the new one doesn't like something the last creator made that character do? Take a guess. This gets so bad with some characters, it creates theories that the actual living person has never been seen. And no one in charge argues with that just in case they have to retcon a previous appearance as being a robot.

So sorry, kids, but that stunning victory you just pulled off?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ActuallyADoombot

Again.

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38. "RE: #813"
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Some how Stan Lee just can't seem to kill off a villain. There always seems to be an escape clause. I haven’t made a count, but I think the record will show that he has killed off more heroes than bad guys.

Same goes for Batman and Superman. I mean, come on, really, how hard would it be for Supe to vaporize Lex Luthor? Yet, he can't even keep him locked up. And this has gone on for 60-70 years?

Don't know if Lex has used the "Fake Lex is actually a robot" ploy yet, though.

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39. "(Not numbered), The ESTEE trope. "
LAST EDITED ON 05-30-14 AT 11:41 AM (EST)

Estee is apparently otherwise occupied, so, since I find myself far too amusing for my own good, and basically because I am an unrepentant DAW, here is the ESTEE trope, conceived a couple of years ago when Estee hit 50K.

This is to serve as a PSA as well as a tribute to the only known RTVW poster who has achieved the lofty status of 50,000 posts, I propose to identify the ESTEE Trope. It could have been called the "The Narrator", but it isn't, it's the ESTEE. Danggummit.

Specifically to OT, the ESTEE trope is of an androgynous (his/her gender is never been reliably established, and it doesn't really matter – here we will maintain the possible fiction that “she” and her” are the accurate gender references) character that illuminates and enhances every interesting thread, calling "BS" where "BS" is "BS", and an ominous "I’ll let you live this time" when a compliment is due. In addition, the ESTEE's strength of spirit quietly emboldens others to exercise latent talents in wit and in fearlessness.

She leads from behind by the example of being behind.

Typically, as is the case with our actual Estee, the ESTEE trope involves a street waif, a child of tragedy knowing little of her parents and raised by an aunt who because of her own tragic life is embittered and tyrannical. Various "uncles" are also involved who influence her sexual life (insert a tragic wink wink here). The story of the ESTEE depicts a life of struggle against her perception as an unfavored child that has to excel in school, on the street, and on the playground just to be noticed. But she never gets the acknowledgement she feels she deserves.

So, driven to be noticed she tests the wild side of life including alcohol, drugs, sex, graphic novels, and Anime. Fortunately for her talent, her early experiences with drink and drugs is searing and dramatic and cauterizes that part of her brain to the point that she develops a mental phobia, and to the point where she cannot undergo further experimentation without extreme discomfort and prolonged puking. So as a young adult she is forced into a life that she must endure without those crutches. Mainly, just sex, graphic novels, Coke (-a-cola), and Anime are left to comfort her. Her fish abuse could be considered a vice, but the audience is inclined to be forgiving, indeed, everyone but the fish actually encourages and participates in this abuse. Everyone. (sigh)

Back to her childhood; amidst the chaos of these years the ESTEE is befriended by an eccentric and very quietly brilliant neighbor who, because of his isolation is regarded as a neighborhood wacko. In reality this neighbor really is pretty wacky and does do oddball things, but these stunts are always accompanied by upbeat music and the ESTEE is always laughing and giggling while watching (and sometimes participating in) them, and so they are rendered amusingly and pleasingly eccentric.

And it is because of this gentle though crusty soul that the ESTEE finds inner strength and achieves a kind of stability that will allow her to take advantage of innate talents while at the same time allowing her to spit in the face of hypocrisy and false superiority. It is not known exactly when her apathy toward fish began, perhaps she just got tired of tuna fish every day at lunch.

And so, here we have it. The ESTEE evolves from a troubled upbringing to a stable life. Typically the ESTEE lives with two dogs, a Rottweiler that she keeps chained to her porch to discourage BS artists, and a purse dog she feeds slippers and keeps in a closet for a friend that has no awareness of boundaries. Her favorite past time is to go fly fishing in breathtakingly beautiful and little known ice-melt fed streams in the back country of Oregon where she can be occasionally spotted on the banks of one of these streams beating to death a rainbow trout. Interestingly, her idea of recycling is to feed her garbage to the neighborhood raccoons. She loves parades, Coke (-a-cola) and chocolate, and except for the aforementioned tendency to abuse fish and the occasional gambling binge, has vices no to speak of. Well, she does jokingly claim to have a hit list. Ha ha. (Ha ha?) (A few of her Secret Santa’s have mysteriously disappeared. Probably nothing).

As an adult, the ESTEE became both the person who those who know her and are thus in awe of her talents would most wish to write and deliver their eulogy when the time comes, as well as the person most likely to arrange that event. As both Max and Fooner, currently living in the government witness protection program, can well attest.

There it is, the ESTEE trope. A superb example (if I may say so) of a misconceived trope. And, of course, a complete fiction involving Estee herself. Except for the good parts which, although also technically fictional, I believe are essentially correct. And the fish and beach crab abuse, which can be documented. That crab has a permanent dent in his carapace.
The SNIDGET trope is next, possibly followed by, among a few others, the DABO. Never to be revealed is the GRIT or the FOONERMINT, the first because of the PG13 limitations of the board, and the second because of national security and those dam Democrats.




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42. "After a great deal of thought --"
-- I have decided to let you live.

In time, you'll realize that was the punishment.

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43. "RE: After a great deal of thought --"
LAST EDITED ON 05-31-14 AT 08:28 AM (EST)

I would like for you to write my eulogy. We won't need it for about 100 years, but you could start working on it at any time.

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41. "#814"
It is the scheduled time for your characters to be idiots.

Drunken idiots.

Drunken, broke idiots who will never be able to live down anything they did.

Morons spending every remaining moment of their very short lives in regrets for their stupidity.

And coincidentally, it's also their vacation time.

Clearly there's only one thing to do.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VivaLasVegas

And then they all died. Or just wished they had.

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44. "RE: #814"
Needs updated. TAR15 is included but TAR24 isn't yet included.
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45. "#815 (have you met our former VP?)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HuntingAccident

But he had a gun and he was using it, so at least he's a Real American!

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46. "#816"
Aren't horoscopes silly? Believing you can break people down into twelve basic personality trait sets by looking at when they were born. As if the stars could ever have any influence on how someone thinks and feels! Hot balls of plasma trillions of miles away deciding what you'd like for dinner? Pure idiocy. Constellations have no effect on human behavior whatsoever. Anyone of reason can see that.

Because it's all in the blood.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PersonalityBloodTypes

And my blood type makes me very reasonable indeed.

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47. "RE: #816"
Acid blood means that you are one of Ripley's Aliens and have very protective maternal instincts.

White blood means that you are one of her cyborgs, and are very rational.

Green blood means that you eat too much broccoli.

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54. "RE: #816"
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Green blood means that you eat too much broccoli.

<< Ate all his broccoli growing up

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48. "RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're entitled."
I'm not sure 'alluring' is the right word.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AlluringAnglerfish

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49. "RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're entitled."
What you might get if HR Giger was a Mad Magazine illustrator.

Why are all these tropes reminding me of Aliens?

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50. "#817"
Have you ever seen a picture of the real thing? That's not as far off as your approaching dreams would like it to be.

Earth's biosphere is not exactly into comfort.

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51. "RE: #817"
Yeah, they are scary. As are lots of other deep water fish. Scary and alien.

I can just imagine being down in the ocean a few miles in a bathyscaph (or whatever), which by itself would scare the holy heck out of me, (that would be a very lonely place to be if anything were to go wrong, a seal or a bad weld finally giving out is so easy to imagine) and meeting an Angler fish.

I don’t think scientific curiosity would be my first reaction. Filling my Depends would be more like it.

(Note to self: Wear Depends when being forced at gunpoint to go down in a deep sea diving bell.)

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52. "#818"
One of the problems with using artificial intelligence devices in combat is that programmers have yet to code up anything which would have the average friend-or-foe judgment ability of your typical dog.

So why not save some time?

I mean, the dog is right there. Replacement parts are cheap to breed. Training takes about as much time as assembly and costs a lot less. All you need to do is figure out some way of attaching the weaponry and providing a means of triggering it. Compared to AI research, that's simple. And who's going to care about some dumb dog anyway? You don't even have to spring for a vet because those bleeding hearts might say something to the media. Fire and forget, then repeat.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeaponizedAnimal

(What this sort of person tends to forget is that the dog will remember who did this. And come looking for them. With weapons.)

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53. "RE: #818"
I know what you're thinking, you're thinking that a fish would make a great underwater stealth weapon carrier.

I vote no.

Besides, I think that that Angler fish above qualifies as a sufficiently serious weapon.

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55. "#819"
Stupid Combat Fashion Decision #4

In order to show what a badass you are, wear a long scarf around your neck at all times. Because surely no one's ever going to grab it. Tighten it. Strangle you with your own accessory. Toss the end into a propeller blade. Nothing like that will ever happen to you. Because you're just that dead.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScarfOfAsskicking

Good. We meant good.

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56. "RE: #819"
Continuing the thoughts from posts 21 and 22:

I worked for a brief time as a lathe operator in a machine shop. The owner's son was made VP of the company straight out of high school and seemed to think that he was a master machinist simply because of the position he was given by his dad. He was silly fool and an insufferable A'hole that was always in the shop telling real craftsmen how to do their jobs.

And, of course, he wore a tie.

I began to fantasize about asking him to lean over my spinning machine in order to see if I had it right. I fantasized about the tie getting caught in the work and his head being snapped off and rolling down the aisle.

It wasn’t a complete fantasy, I kept thinking it would be the perfect crime, and perfectly satisfying.


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57. "RE: #819"
Personally I prefer epaulets over scarfs when going into battle. With fringe preferably.
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58. "RE: #819"
And a cape. Right?
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59. "RE: #819"
No cape - but a belt sash with fringe to match the epaulets is always a good way to go.
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60. "#820"
I'm going to keep this sometimes-really-annoying (and all too often, verging on universal) trope simple. Just quote the page, post the link, and move on. This is one of the tropes which truly pisses me off and as such, I know any venting opportunity just might go full-scale rant.

The quote:

For any series not aimed solely at females, odds are high that only one female will be in the regular cast.

And the trope?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSmurfettePrinciple

Yes, I am completely aware that the ponies have the opposite problem.

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61. "RE: #820"
Not sure how Penelope the pussycat was finally seduced by Pepe le Skunque, maybe she lost her sense of smell, but she also has reason to resent this trope.

"Poor Penelope Pussycat. No one ever remembers her name... That's because she didn't have a name in the original Pepe Le Pew cartoons — or rather, she did, but it changed every cartoon. She was "Fabrette" on "Really Scent," Fifi in "Two Scents Worth," and other times, she was just a nameless cat who got painted and is left to be chased and harassed by this horny skunk."

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62. "#821 (TV series)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/MyMotherTheCar?from=Main.MyMotherTheCar

So.

Yeah.

Um.

...belated reincarnationist protest letter campaign?

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63. "RE: #821 (TV series)"
Let us not forget several other gems from the era:

It's About Time

Land of the Giants

The Invaders

The Time Tunnel

Kinda made The Munsters, The Addams Family, Mister Ed, Star Trek, Lost In Space, and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea look like brilliant entertainment.

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64. "#822"
Sometimes stealing gets boring.

You took money. Precious metals. Important art. Jewels. Hooray. You've done it all before and you'll do it all again. There's profit in it -- but where's the challenge? Anyone with enough training and the proper equipment could pull off what you're doing. How does it really show how far you've come as a thief?

What if you stole something a little... harder to take?

Like, just throwing it out there, the Empire State Building?

Big old footprint hole in the ground where the basements used to be...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MonumentalTheft?from=Main.TheSandiego

Optionally, copyright the alphabet.

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65. "RE: #822"
Let’s just say that we are stealing the universe. And build a plot around that.

Should we mention that in doing so we are also stealing ourselves (whatever that means), or just ignore that wrinkle?

One obvious difficulty is the fence. Who do you sell it to? And who would be interested in a cosmic cycle of time?

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66. "#823"
So according to Alex Jones, the recent Nevada shooting spree was a false flag operation conducted by Democrats in order to make Tea Party members look bad.

Which means the Democrats:

* Found two dedicated agents.
* Planted them in the system several years ago.
* Plotting things out so they would say things to their neighbors, hand out literature, get thrown off the Bundy ranch, make open threats, and all the time the Democrat-controlled police wouldn't do a thing.
* Got them to murder three people --
* -- and the hard part: found agents so loyal they would suicide as part of the plan.

If you are Alex Jones or one of his more dedicated listeners, this makes perfect sense.

To everyone else, you're probably a

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConspiracyTheorist

Side note: which in conclusion, means the only way you'll listen to and believe Alex Jones is if the Democrats pay you for it.

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67. "RE: #823"
But...(i)WHAT IF IT'S TRUE?

I mean, we all know how evil and conniving those Democrats are, just look at how they elected Hilary to the senate from New York. Her credentials? She was a former first wife of an Arkansas Governor and of a US president. The planning and preparation required to convince cynical New Yorkers (of all people) that she was qualified to represent them in the US Senate was truly epic. That took a lot more planning and preparation than the Nevada shooting, not to mention the pure, insidious, Satanic evil involved. In comparison, the planning and execution of the diversion (as future events will clearly show) of a shooting/suicide? Child’s play.

I think that pretty well proves that the Democrats were behind this.

What heroic spy chaser can we depend on to ferret out the truth and defeat this Democratic evil? Where's Jason Bourne living these days?

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68. "#824"
Okay... detailed personally-written instructions for setting up the party. Step one is --

-- is --

- is that a q or a b?

No, really. And this word over here. Are we supposed to place the tables or replace them? Because I didn't get any kind of budget for this. Plus there's this bit about the food. Fire the steaks or fire the chef?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheIllegible

...I'm just praying this is 'sit in with the band...'

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69. "RE: #824"
It's not going to be any more understandable when we begin to communicate silently via implanted telephonic chips I fear.

Chicken scratches will be replaced by chicken squawks.

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70. "#825 (ruining Kingfish's day)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RackFocus

Wrong.

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71. "RE: #825 (ruining Kingfish's day)"
He can just follow the link to Male Gaze tp make his day brighter.
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72. "RE: #825 (ruining Kingfish's day)"
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I am disappointed. But I’ll try and get us back on track:

Ode to a Rack:

Nice racks are works of animated art,
And quite appropriately cover her heart.
They are so flashy,
Without being splashy,
And they smell a lot better than a fart.



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73. "#826"
I'm not allowed to let you see this crucial document. It's completely against regulations.

This document right here.

The one I'm leaving out on the desk. In plain view. With absolutely no safeguards whatsoever.

That particular document, right there, which I am taking great pains to indicate.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm just

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SteppingOutForAQuickCupOfCoffee

I've never had coffee before and I really had this sudden overwhelming desire to find out what it was like.

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74. "RE: #826"
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Every clichéd trope I could think of

Serpico: “Geeze, McGoodnic, we can’t catch a break. We need that vital information or we’re dead in the water. But hey, the Captain accidently left it out on his desk when he went to get coffee. Do you think we should look at it? “

McGoodnic: “It is illegal and you know it! I’m sure the Captain trusts us enough that he knows he can leave vital information out in the open and we won’t read it. We can’t violate his trust! We can’t let the Captain down, Serpico.” (earnest tears run down McGoodnic’s cheeks while Serpico balls his fists in mute frustrated rage).

Serpico (OK, not so mute): “I don’t care, we’re here to catch the good guys, and if we can’t bend the rules and use every last cheap trick we have, what good are we as cops? Are we here to catch the bad guys or not? You be the look out and let me know when he comes back.”

McGoodnic:”I will not. I’m your partner, and like all good TV cop partners I’ll take a bullet (one, mind you, in the bullet proof vest, and after that you’re on your own) for you, but I will not allow you to be pulled down to the dark side by your intense hatred for this particular bad guy and do something that you’ll regret. Maybe not now but soon, and for the rest of your life you’ll rue the moment when you let temptation take you to where you shouldn’t otter go. You’re better than that.“

“If you look at that vital information, you will be just like them. And the bad guys will have won.”

Serpico: “ But we almost have him and his gang of bad tippers. (And “…otter…”? Where were you raised, Mc Goodnic?) Anyway, you have to help, or his gang will continue to tip waitresses inappropriately, leaving worldwide havoc and destruction in their wake. I’m gonna do it, and dam the torpedoes.”

McGoodnic: “Ha. It’s too late Serpico, here he comes now.”

Captain: “Umm boy, that coffee just hits the spot sometimes. I trust you two had a productive time while I was out?”

Mc Goodnic (smug smile):” Yeah, except Serpico here wanted to read that vital information that you left out on your desk. But don’t worry, I wouldn’t let him.”

Captain, glaring at McGoodnic: I gave you 10 minutes, and you spent your time arguing? This time I’m going down the block for Danish. Serpico, if McGoodnic gets in your way again, just shoot him in the foot or something. Give him that bullet he wants so badly. Not in the vest, though, that won’t hurt enough.

Serpico turns around and punches McGoodnic. “I’ve been wanting to do that for a long time. And BTW, Captain, could you bring back a prune Danish for me? I didn't have a decent BM this morning. And a large cappuccino? With whipped cream? Bring McGoodnic here one too, or he’ll be bitching all day that you like me best.”



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75. "#827 (on a ninety-degree day)"
I can use one of these.

If I get it custom-made.

And use a lot of skin glue.

Then I get to stand in one position.

Exactly one.

While not breathing.

At all.

Ever.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BarelyThereSwimwear

After paying six hundred dollars.

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76. "The Kingfish theory"
No real life examples? Really?

So, in lieu of that, here's the Kingfish theory on why women adorn themselves the way they do.

Mostly, it's to impress other women. Ta Daaaa!

Shoes? Men don't care. Or even notice. Not within the range of where we are looking.

Hair? Ditto. A man might notice if the head is shaved, but otherwise, it's all good.

Dress? Still, unnoticed adornment. Show some cleavage and thigh, that's all we ask.

Nails? It's for competition with other women, and maybe self defense, not enticement.

Little swimsuits do get a guy's attention, but (per the Kingfish theory), the wearer is still trying to outdo other women, it's still largely a competition.

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77. "#828 (site trivia)"
There's no such thing as notability, says TVTropes. Any work, any person, any example could go up. It's possible that no one would ever link to it and isolated pages die, but you at least get the chance to try and no one ever takes it down.

Well... almost never.

TVTropes has its banned section. And it is not a small one. Things which cause too much derision, ones which automatically lead to fights, and the occasional lawsuit magnet. Some things are acknowledged, but not discussed in order to avoid the preceding. Others are the Voldemort of the site: no one even risks speaking the name.

What could get one of the most easygoing sites on the Internet to bring down the banhammer?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub

Guess.

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78. "RE: #828 (site trivia)"
Huh.

Well, at least the TVTropes page has a Webby who cares. Or is still living.

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79. "#829"
With bionic technology finally beginning to cross the border into mapping nerve firings and thus linking computer commands to electrochemical transmissions, practical limb replacement -- complete with fine motor control and touch -- may be only a decade or so away. All we have to do now is make sure the interface is secure and get the artificial looking (and feeling) as real as possible.

Actually...

...why stop there?

I mean, you've got a whole artificial arm there. Do you know how much stuff we can build into the average folding tool? This has a little more space.

So how about a screwdriver in the thumb? Better yet, why not store some bullets in your forearm, then just straighten out the whole thing and fire through the index finger? We'll put the GPS system in the upper bicep, the lighter can go under a fingernail, oooh, and you're carrying a lot of electrical charge already, so how about some taser prongs...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SwissArmyAppendage

...okay, admittedly, that one's adults only, but just think of the upsell price!

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80. "The possibilities!"
Octoman – (hey, why just two arms and legs?)

Self-gratification man. Person. Penis on one appendage, vagina on the other. Even better, multi-penises and matching vaginas. I know, there could be other variations for other predilections, but they could all be accommodated with different plug-in appliances.

Telescoping appendages? Telescoping penises?

The gun idea works too. Add a mechanical eye that doubles as a scope?

Built-in auto-fill beer steins!

Built in BBQ grills! (sorry Starshine).

But the best idea of all? Built in TV remotes.

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81. "#830"
And here we have that once-per-thread trope where I just post the title and let everyone take their guess.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FurryEarDissonance

I'm afraid to ask where the first guess went.

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85. "RE: #830"
You didn't name it and you hurried on past it to the next trope, hoping it would pass unnoticed (But yes, I did go there. It was fun).

A reaction induced by a reply (mine, of which I'm still inordinately proud) to a previous trope with similar misinterpretive possibilities.

You have developed the Kingfish Response Phobia. There are a number of other documented cases of this, as well as a number of subtypes.

Be proud.

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82. "#831 (warning: PG-13 barrier breakage ahead.)"
I'm going to reproduce this example from the trope's page exactly. Which means I'm going to violate the site's language guidelines. But it's like our George Carlin memorial thread: to not do so violates the spirit of the thing.

You'll see.

'In the libel case of Arkell v Pressdram (the company that publishes Private Eye), the lawyers for Arkell (an obviously-corrupt local politician) sent Private Eye a letter informing the Eye that "Our client's attitude to damages will depend on the nature of your reply".

Pressdram, thinking that this was a bit rich given that (for once) the Eye was likely able to prove its case at trial, sent a letter back which read "We would be interested to know what your client's attitude to damages would be if the nature of our reply were as follows: Fuck off".'

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SophisticatedAsHell

This is the trope of changing linguistic style gears in midstatement. It's not always from cultured to crude: the jump can go the other way, and be all the more surprising for it. But by the very nature of the trope, it's going to involve more than the occasional bit of profanity.

And if done right, it is going to invoke the proper comedic response in the audience as all @#$%.

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83. "RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier breakage ahead.)"
You do realize that seven or eight months from now, a blue peep might stop by and give you a warning?
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84. "RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier breakage ahead.)"
I scheduled the thought to cross my mind sometime in late September.
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86. "RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier breakage ahead.)"
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer."
— Mark Twain
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PrecisionFStrike
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87. "RE: #831 (warning: PG-13 barrier breakage ahead.)"
Dam straight!
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88. "#832 (every bad high school football coach)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LosingIsWorseThanDeath

Incidentally, if you have any kids who are dealing with that kind of personality? Get them out of that program. Now. There is a place where that kind of mentality leads, and the name over the door is not 'sanity'. Anyone actually acting under this trope in real life is eventually going to lose. And when I say lose, I mean everything. If you feel that losing is worse than death, then you have no real idea how to deal with either one -- which can mean the first leads to the second.

In some regards, Michael Jordan spent most of his career as a functional psychotic. And when I say 'functional, it wasn't by much.

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89. "RE: #832 (every bad high school football coach)"
Suffering the chestbeating gloats of poor winners is off putting too. Often it can make me choose to root for the losers.
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90. "#833 (too. many. examples.)"
The very nature of the trope makes citing exact examples difficult. Given that, I'm going to let Bill Simmons do it for me.

"0:01: For our first match, tag-team championship belts are on the line: R-Truth (a rapper/wrestler) and John Morrison (an entertaining Jim Morrison ripoff) challenging the champs, The Big Show and The Miz (carrying two belts apiece, for some reason). R-Truth came out prancing and singing his hit song, "What's Up?" The lyrics go like this: "Shshshn cnbcnsbdb fhdehsh fhdhs dhdhan dbdjdndjd dbdbdbdbdb shshsnhs ffrhdhhjs xbcxbbffgfhhj WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S UP? WHAT'S UP?" I don't think he wrote that one with Burt Bacharach and Carly Simon."

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IndecipherableLyrics

So there's a band whose response to someone trying to figure out what they're singing is -- suing them. Gosh, that'll create fans left and right. Well, probably not right...

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91. "RE: #833 (too. many. examples.)"
"Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida": Its intended title was "In the Garden of Eden."

Earbug of my day. The psychedelic fuzz guitar riffs sustain the sound of the title lyrics.

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92. "RE: #833 (too. many. examples.)"
thispieceofpaper'sgot47words37sentences58wordswewanna-
knowdetailsofthecrimetimeofthecrimeandanyotherkindofthing-
yougottasaypertainingtoandaboutthecrimeIwanttoknowarresting-
officer'snameandanyotherkindofthingyougottasay
and talked for 45 minutes and nobody understood a word that he said
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93. "#834 (Hamster debut day)"
*cuts out pictures*

*pastes carefully*

*sharpens all points*

Grodner? Bullseye. Where else?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DartboardOfHate

Just saving time...

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94. "RE: #834 (Hamster debut day)"
LAST EDITED ON 06-25-14 AT 10:59 AM (EST)

I'd be tempted to paste pictures of groups of people.

Nazis. Neo-Nazis.

All Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. Make that all religious fundamentalist terrorists. Even better, just all terrorists. Especially any who live around me (darts in the eyes).

Skitters from "Falling Skies".

Drivers who don't know how to make a left turn unless the oncoming lane is clear to the horizon.

Duck Dynasty audience. Even better, the audiences of all goofball hillbilly un-”Reality” shows. Stop watching and let them be cancelled! Please!


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95. "#835"
Relatively few performers become famous from their first role. A number toil in low-paying, direct-to-DVD obscurity for a time before they get the part which catches public attention. Others can barely manage direct-to-Youtube before someone finally notices them. They take minor jobs in tiny productions because it's all they can get at all and it almost pays a tiny fraction of the bills.

But when that performer becomes known... some people will begin to seek out all their early work. The marketing departments know this. And no matter who the star of the thing originally was, never mind the fact that our fresh flavor of the month had all of twenty seconds' screen time -- guess who gets the cover?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BillingDisplacement

And when the consumer realizes how badly ripped-off they were, guess who gets the returns?

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96. "RE: #835"
Yeah, I know. I've been dreading the day when I get famous, and all those low budget porn flicks are unearthed.

But Hey! I was broke, and I would have never gotten to where I am now if I hadn't had those gigs!

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97. "RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're entitled."

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ElegantClassicalMusician?from=Main.AirInAG-String

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98. "RE: Trope Of The Day IX: you're entitled."
<Quiet sweet violins introduce the slightly comical inquiring walk of a solo oboe through a meadow of soft flutes.>

No comment.

<Thunderously, the full bankl of double bases take us to a coda climax>

The crowd is on their feet, "Bravo, Brava, Incredible performance, Maestro!".

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99. "#836"
Genie: I can give you one wish.
Guy: I wish for world peace.
Genie: Sorry, that's far too hard to do.
Guy: Oh. Okay, I wish I could understand women.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnSecondThought

Genie: ...define 'peace'.

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100. "RE: #836"
My one wish would be to snag a 100th post swoop.

Thank yew.

(After two days, and no Fooner to do the honors, well, someone had to step up).

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101. "#837"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheTheocracy

Piss off.

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102. "RE: #837"
Curious, the timing of this and the Hobby Lobby decision.

"Employees, thou shalt not practice birth control! Or if thou doest, thou shalt beist working for another theocracy! And another thing, while a member of this theocracy, thou shalt startith and endith each day by giving thanks to the creator we have kindly designated for you to worship. Now, bow your heads and close your eyes real tight, I mean Pat Robertson tight, (the mandated - by us - pose for giving thanks). Let us pray.

Hey! You back there, you’re fired, you forgot to form a steeple with your hands. Sorry we don't do forgiveness; pack it up and getith out. Take this souvenir Bible (The king James version, much superior to the original) and a dashboard Jesus as tokens of our blessed generosity."

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103. "RE: #837"
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Piss off.

Understatement of the week. Another four-letter word is more applicable.

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104. "#838"
*snicker*

' Back when they were at Image Comics, Wild Storm and Rob Liefeld's Extreme Studios reversed this with a quasi-cross over event where they published their 25th issues months ahead of time to give a glimpse of the future and continued their series the next month. Several of the involved series never made it as far as #25, leaving the missing issues as'

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnInstallment

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107. "RE: #838"
The first time the German football (soccer to Americans) championship was held in 1903, one of the semi-finals was DSC Prague vs. Karlsruhe FV. The Karlsruhe club received a fake telegram that the match had been postponed and did not show up, and Prague went on to the final (where it lost to VfB Leipzig) by default. The following year, the final was going to be held in Berlin, but because it involved Britannia Berlin, Karlsruhe FV protested that this was not on neutral ground. The protest was successful, but resulted not in the final being adjourned to another city, but being canceled. Therefore 1904 there was no German football champion.

The Karlsruhe club seems to have had a run of bad luck. Although why they protested the site and not the fake telegram is a mystery.

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105. "#839"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueFever

...no, and you're probably thinking of Blue Flu. This is the tendency of people to write everything with hyperlinks, increasing the number of referenced pages until the entire piece starts to fade into a blue haze.

On the plus side, such people frequently use recognizable English.

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106. "RE: #839"
I recently visited a site that had been infected with a virus that turned random words into hyperlinks that popped up various ad pages when ever the cursor passed over it.

Irritating.

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108. "RE: #839"
In addition, the time investment in everything you write will grow progressively as the condition worsens, which is just one of the many reasons that TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.

Hmmm...

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109. "#840"
The typical human pregnancy takes about forty weeks. Sometimes thirty-six, occasionally forty-three (and the latter will freak most doctors out). But the average centers in on forty or so. Which means that any writer who wants to work with a pregnant character from beginning to end has to plan out for that kind of timespan.

Forty weeks of time to cover. In detail.

But many writers are male. They don't really understand the process of pregnancy, all the little side effects, the feelings involved. And they're also lazy. So given the chance for a good old-fashioned shortcut excuse, they'll shorten the duration. To, say, around forty hours.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExpressDelivery

And female authors who remember exactly what the whole thing was like? Forty seconds.

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110. "RE: #840"
Don’t tell me I don’t know what it’s like to be pregnant. You eat pickles, you sneak sips of wine, you’re a non-stop pee machine, everyone ogles your oobies, you’re feet are ugly, and you glow one moment and growl the next. And it’s for 9 months, not 10

I know all about it.

My next novel will have the fetus detective solve a string of murders from inside the womb.



Crabman

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112. "RE: #840"
You may not have noticed, but most months aren't four weeks long.
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116. "RE: #840"
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Oh. Yeah.

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111. "#841"
"You should not do magic you do not understand!"

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SorcerersApprenticePlot

And no one ever used a computer again.

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113. "Sorcerer's Apprentice card lore"
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114. "#842"
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Regulation 148:7 of the Universal Military Code:

All personnel will carry a picture of any family or loved ones they may have and keep it with them at all times. Said image will be prominently displayed to any nearby troops shortly before their demise.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FatalFamilyPhoto

Both display and demise are mandatory.

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115. "RE: #842"
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(Edited after checking with IMDB);

"For a Few Dollars More" had an interesting take on this this trope. There are two identical pocket watches, each with an identical picture of Col. Mortimer's sister who was raped and murdered by Indio. She and Indio both die, but Mortimer survives. As does, of course, the man with no name.

This isn’t a military example, the picture isn’t of the wife/girl of the people who display it, the brother (Mortimer) of the wife/girl in the picture survives, and the more prominent feature of each watch is the jaunty jingle it plays. And there are two pocket watches, each with the woman's picture, Mortimer has one and Indio has one, Mortimer survives and Indio doesn't. Other than that, it’s a perfect example.

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117. "#843"
Checkpoints can be a salvation for the modern video gamer. In essence, if you reach a certain place in the game, the programming will note it and, should you die, automatically restart you from that place. It acknowledges the progress you've made and doesn't force you to go through the entire system again. It means you don't have to be perfect and do everything in a single run. They aren't necessarily common -- sometimes you'll have to battle through the entire level and are only rewarded at the end -- but in general, they'll be around.

Of course, some older games work without them.

As do a few modern ones.

Along with a couple which begin with regular checkpoints, but then wait until you're in the middle of the game and then take them away forever.

And let's not neglect those specimens where they're invisible.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CheckpointStarvation?from=Main.StartToSave

The one where checking in kills you? That was just for giggles. And not yours.

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118. "RE: #843"
LAST EDITED ON 07-11-14 AT 01:09 PM (EST)

Let's have a "Joy Stick" trope. So I can flex my considerable talents at sexual innuendo.

(Well, I think they are considerable).

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119. "#844"
Fix history? It can't be done. The act of going back in time to change things starts the ripples -- but so does that of chasing the original distorter down. Everything you do creates change. Run after the criminal, get in someone's way, they're late for an appointment, never get their job. Another rock dropping into the pond, and the water never smooths out. You just create wave after wave until everything floods.

All you can do is try to moderate the damage. You'll never get everything back to the way it was. The position of every atom can't be fixed. But by setting up the right ripples, a few might cancel each other out. Ultimately, things will still be broken: just the act of trying ruins everything. But with a little luck, only you'll ever notice the cracks.

The best you can hope for is a

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CloseEnoughTimeline

and that the people who were never born in this one weren't yours.

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120. "RE: #844"
Johnny B. Goode (YouTube)

Oops! at the end.

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121. "RE: #844"
I thought "Loopers" was a pretty imaginative time travel plot.
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122. "#845"
As we all know, playing video games is an inherent sin against every monotheistic religion which exists, and therefore anyone who does so will be eternally tortured in the worst possible realms of the afterlife for having committed that violation against their deity's laws. That's what they deserve. That's what should happen.

Also, that's what they practiced for.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlanetHeck

Better hope they don't find the health drops and ammo packs.

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123. "RE: #845"
Here we go again. Another video game trope not about cute short haired kitty cats or the variety of joy stick buttons.

I'd even settle for expounding on my advice to check the shape of your balls if you want to know whether you're playing American sex or the sex they play in other countries. Canada and Australia partially excepted.

But no, I am once again frustrated and will have to just bounce my balls off a backboard. Solo handball, once again.

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124. "#846"
What has no movie studio in history ever made?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting?from=Main.HollywoodAccounting

A profit.

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125. "RE: #846"
LAST EDITED ON 07-15-14 AT 01:45 PM (EST)

I am generally misconstrued.

I am not gross.

I just want a percentage of gross. Which so far has been a big nought, but still, it's the principle.

And three successive explanatory sentences that begin with "I" does not mean anything ego-wise.

I am very humble.

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126. "#847"

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourMoreMeasures

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128. "RE: #847"
The fact that the original (or at least the recorded) singer of a song can also do this is of some comfort for us shower/car radio talents.

The chorus of "The Weight" will always trip up a drunken karaoke singer (what other kind is there?), as well as almost everyone else:

“Take a load off, Fanny
Take a load for free
Take a load off, Fanny
And (and) (and)……… you put the load right on me
(You put the load right on me)”

After the third “and” in the fourth line there is an extra-long suspended pause that is just hanging there, waiting on the guitars to resume that always catches someone. Especially entertaining during a group sing along.

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127. "#848 (does not exist in reality)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NationsOfTheWorldMontage

There will now be a brief pause while someone blames the President.

If three of you do it, this post is being featured on O'Reilly as documented evidence.

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129. "RE: #848 (does not exist in reality)"
I blame the president.
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130. "#849 (Mr. Ham would not have picked this one)"
He would have gone with Fantastic Concentration Camp.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasticGhetto

No elves need apply.

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131. "RE: #849 (Mr. Ham would not have picked this one)"
No Real Life examples.

A bit too grim, I suppose.

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132. "#850"
German-produced classical music tends to be stirring. It's rarely quiet and reflective: it's meant to get the blood pumping, move the emotions, and get people out of their seats with applause. You don't sleep through a German classical concert: you wait until it ends, then go race cars. And when I say 'race cars', I mean you pick a car and try to beat it. On foot.

Now... what kind of horrible negative association can we put on those completely innocent compositions?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MusicToInvadePolandTo

What else?

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133. "RE: #850"
This, of course, updates to the "Music to Invade Texas By" (while smoking, you guessed it, a roach), "La Cucaracha".
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134. "#851 (about to expire as a trope)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ElvisLives

Give it a few more years, and it'll either have to become ElvisIsImmortal or switch into its close relative, TupacLives. (And is still working.) But either way, people will continue to believe -- because if the music never dies, how dare the creator pass away?

News flash: when the last fan goes, so does the music. Danny Boy may be forever. Everything else is subjective.

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135. "RE: #851 (about to expire as a trope)"
My dog Elvis thought he could sing. He couldn't. He tried hard, but he couldn't.

And he is dead, although a coyote or some other wild animal dug him up once. I buried him deeper the second time.

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136. "#852 (last night's cinematic experience)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Sharknado2TheSecondOne

People got paid for this.

People wanted to make cameos in this.

People watched this.

People are stupid.

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137. "RE: #852 (last night's cinematic experience)"
Actually this kinda sounds interesting, if it's a really camp comedy.

A lead (a beautiful young bikini clad protagonist, undoubtedly) getting her hand bitten off by a flying shark at the beginning? What's not to like?

And Skye is in it? Reason enough right there to tune in.

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138. "RE: #852 (last night's cinematic experience)"
Hand bitten off: Tara Reid.

Character of Skye: Vivica Fox.

Camp factor: high.

Logic in script: none.

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139. "RE: #852 (last night's cinematic experience)"
We need to be prepared - as Sharknado 2 Tara Reid says - "It could really happen"


http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/tara-reid-sharknado-happen-article-1.1878900

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140. "#853 (Chris McDaniel)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoreLoser

Not that we can get him to admit he lost.

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141. "RE: #853 (Chris McDaniel)"
I'm calling a technical foul!!!!!

Russhole did not make either the live action tv or real life folders?

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142. "RE: #853 (Chris McDaniel)"
He could give Robert Conrad a run for his money.
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143. "#854 (not Ann Coulter)"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlondeRepublicanSexKitten

Did you see her yesterday when she proved Jesus wasn't a proper Christian because he traveled outside his borders to spread the word? LIBERAL!

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144. "RE: #854 (not Ann Coulter)"
Margaret Thatcher - that saucy temptress.
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145. "RE: #854 (not Ann Coulter)"

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