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"S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
Oh brother, I can hear it now...more fodder for the conspiracy folks. I anticipate some back and forth dialogue among the theorists as to how many tries it may have taken until Tony finally drew the black rock.

Difficult call here because you can make a case for either of the three being #1 this week.

1) TONY - I'm keeping him at the top spot. Continues to own the season. Very little doubt in my mind he targets a female even without his conversation with Spencer. He's right...four females in the F6 and Woo/Tony are dog meat. No surprise he shows his desire and effort to play the game by forfeiting the food for a game advantage. Sure he was fortunate to draw the black rock, but at least he put himself in that position...more than can be said for the food-grubbing lazy females (and Woo.)

2) TASHA - The woman's a BEAST! Terry Dietz with color and a "real" shapely figure. Had Exile Island been a F3 Final, Terry walks away with the million. That's what Tasha needs to hope for. I don't fault her for thinking either a challenge advantage or HII clue might have followed the rock drawing scenario. She may get a reprieve next week because with a F6 Tony still needs her vote. But after that, she'll need to go back to her winning ways.

3) SPENCER - It was a twist of irony watching Spencer pull a "Tony" on Tony. But unbeknown to Spencer, Tony already knew Jefra was at odds with him (thanks to his Spy Shack) and seeing the four women in the water together was all Tony needed to get his paranoia going. But you still have to give Spencer credit for his effort. Tough break with the rock drawing, but at least he gets to keep his white rock. If he puts it on Ebay and a few conspiracy theorists start bidding against each other, he might get his $500 back.

In recognition to the auction food winners, the rest of this list is dedicated to the idiom, "Pigs get fat; Hogs get slaughtered."

4) WOO - Perhaps it may be Island Fever, but did anyone else sense a little bit of creepy eroticism going on between Jeff and Woo when Jeff was serving him the ribs and beer??? I dunno, maybe it was just me. Woo really thinks he shares the same strategic game playing brain as Tony? Now THAT'S definitely Island Fever!

5) TRISH - She'll need to decide between payback for Tony for betraying her trust, or hanging on to his coattails. I'm guessing the latter. Her only remote chance of winning is a F2 with Kass. Given that improbability she may as well coast to the F4.

6) KASS - The self-proclaimed "martyr" of her alliance? Really?? Island Fever must be contagious. Despite being perfect goat material, I have this feeling she doesn't get a whiff of the Finals. I hope my feeling is right.

BOOTED) JEFRA - I'm glad you enjoyed your guacamole. Consider it an appetizer for your main course on the Ponderosa. Thanks for providing a nice backdrop this season. Give her props though for her gracious exit, and for the benefit of my eyes, PLEASE pick out a different wardrobe than Morgan.

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 RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Jims03 05-01-14 1
   RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-02-14 5
       RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... michel2 05-03-14 9
           RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-04-14 12
       RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Jims03 05-03-14 11
           RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-04-14 14
               RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Jims03 05-04-14 15
                   RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-06-14 18
 RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... QuickBen 05-02-14 2
 RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... dabo 05-02-14 3
   RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-02-14 4
       RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... dabo 05-02-14 6
           RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-03-14 7
               RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... dabo 05-03-14 8
               RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... michel2 05-03-14 10
                   RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-04-14 13
                       RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... michel2 05-04-14 16
                           RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-06-14 19
                               RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... michel2 05-06-14 21
 RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... michel2 05-04-14 17
   RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... Aruba 05-06-14 20
       RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... michel2 05-06-14 22
           RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. ... dabo 05-06-14 23

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1. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
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1. Tasha - I'm more pre-disposed to like Spencer (since I majored in econ in college) but Tasha has really won me over this season. She's a sneaky good social player with some great immunity chops to boot! Unlike Spencer, she also tends to play it cool more often, something I can really respect.
2. Spencer - It's really fun to root for Spencer, but he keeps doing these really dopey things that bug me. Still a really solid dude that I hope can get out of their mess.
3. Tony - I think his move last night was colossally stupid, but man, is he good television. He is like a version of Russell who is actually charismatic and likable!
4. Trish - Got a soft spot for Trish, who I think is much more savvy than people give her credit for. It's too bad she's been wasting her whole game on Tony so far.
5. Woo - Seems okay to me, nothing really offensive about him. It's weird, he seems like an interesting personality, but they have these kinds of people on Survivor all the time... So Woo is less interesting to me than he probably should be.

(a huge chasm)

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7. Kass - Kass is seriously one of the most annoying contestants the show has cast in awhile. And I had this opinion before her comment about college-age males. Her results-oriented, "Well, I'm in the majority and you're not" attitude just drives me insane. There is literally no arguing with her about some of the more nuanced points of her decisions because she is completely and utterly results-oriented. I wince when I watch Spencer try to discuss anything with her. Seriously, did Spencer run over her dog right before they left for the island?

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5. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
I guess I'm just not seeing how Tony made such a huge mistake?

If he goes ahead and votes out Spencer, there's absolutely, positively NOOOOO doubt in my mind Tasha rounds up the gals for an all-girl alliance. Not only would it be smart, it would also be ridiculously obvious.

Who cares about Tony's idols. The four girls split the votes between Tony/Woo and when Tony plays his idol, Woo is gone. They can do the same next TC with Tony and Jefra. With Spencer and Woo gone, Tasha could win the remaining ICs on one leg, with one arm and her eyes closed.

Whether Tasha is in a F3 with Trish and Kass, or a F2 with either Trish or Kass, she wins it going away. I guess what I'm saying is voting out Spencer essentially hands the game to Tasha. Personally I'd be thrilled with that outcome...but I'm certain Tony wouldn't be.

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>I guess I'm just not seeing
>how Tony made such a
>huge mistake?

>...I guess what
>I'm saying is voting out
>Spencer essentially hands the game
>to Tasha. Personally I'd be
>thrilled with that outcome...but I'm
>certain Tony wouldn't be.

You answered your own question, Aruba. The girls would NEVER have formed an alliance with Tasha because they could all see it was handing her the million. Tony's huge mistake was multilplied when he learned that Tasha was voting with Spencer against Jefra. With that knowledge, he and Woo could have eliminated Spencer and the two votes against Jefra would have shown the 3 other women that Tasha couldn't be trusted.

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It didn't stop all the girls from handing the million to Kim in One World!

Had they voted out Spencer we would have definitely had an all-girl Final just as we did in One World.

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If he goes ahead and votes out Spencer, there's absolutely, positively NOOOOO doubt in my mind Tasha rounds up the gals for an all-girl alliance. Not only would it be smart, it would also be ridiculously obvious.

The problem is that the girls have no reason for wanting to go with Tasha over Tony. Everyone should be well aware by now that Tasha is probably the biggest jury threat out there right now (probably even over Spencer), so there is literally no incentive for them to do so, other than a general, "We hate Tony" sentiment.

With two idols, he has a free trip to the F4, so his only objective is to get there in a condition where he doesn't have to win to move on. And I feel he is more likely to be in that situation if he plays it safe than to keep playing Loyalty Roulette with the ladies.

Going the "safe" route, his main concern would be Trish/Kass/Jefra teaming up in the F5. If he really really wanted to oust Jefra, then maybe he should've waited a round (in the Final 6), so that Trish/Kass wouldn't have anywhere else to go afterwards. They still couldn't go with jury-favorite Tasha, and stealing Woo might be tougher for them.

With his two idols, he should've been able to steer the next two votes in whatever direction he wants. But now he's making it more difficult for himself.

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You're right...they certainly see Tasha as a Jury threat. But a case can be made for Tony as a Jury threat also...this was confirmed at a prior TC.

Historically, at least by my observation, All-Gender alliances are formed in Reality TV not so much with the intent of " my individual victory" but more "our gender against the other gender." The last two that come to mind:

Survivor One World: Clearly the all-girl alliance ensured Kim the victory. But they figured, hey, it's better than Troy winning it, so let the girls make it to the end.

Big Brother 12: The all-male "Brigade" alliance essentially handed the half-million to Hayden. But they figured, hey, it's better than Britney winning it, so let the guys make it to the end.

Had Spencer got voted out, it would be obvious that Tony and Tasha would both have the inside track the rest of the way. Who do you think the other remaining women would rather see winning the game?

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15. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
Survivor One World: Clearly the all-girl alliance ensured Kim the victory. But they figured, hey, it's better than Troy winning it, so let the girls make it to the end.

Yeah, but One World started as a male vs. female season, so naturally the alliances are going to be influenced by gender to some degree. Them giving it to Kim in One World is basically the equivalent of the Boran tribe "giving" it to Ethan in Africa.

Also, assuming that the goats are self-aware and know they probably can't win, they usually just end up going with the alliance they started the game with.

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"Them giving it to Kim in One World is basically the equivalent of the Boran tribe "giving" it to Ethan in Africa."

Hey, thanks for bringing up one of my favorite seasons of all-time: S3 Africa.

From my perspective I always felt that season was more set up for a Lex win as opposed to an Ethan win. Lex owned that season and had Lex not been riddled with parasites and all other kinds of funky crap he would have outlasted Kim in the final IC, taken her to the Finals, and won going away.

Of course this was back in the time when "Survivor" TRULY lived up to its name...when adverse conditions, malnutrition, dehydration, and exposure were factors in a season not to be confused with the coddled version, shell of a game we all watch today.

Ethan made it to the end because Lex, Ethan, and Big Tom formed an alliance on Day One. A couple days later, feeling the need to include a female in their alliance, they brought in Kim. Sure, when in the F4, things fell in place for Ethan to emerge as the winner. But more so than a "gift," he gets to the F4 because of his loyalty and dedication to his early alliance.


"Also, assuming that the goats are self-aware and know they probably can't win, they usually just end up going with the alliance they started the game with."

Yes, when a player approaching the end game realizes they have little chance to win, some will revert to their original alliance. But several others have not. Shambo (S19) and Sugar (S17) are two who come to mind realized in the end their chances of winning were remote, so instead of reverting back to their original groups/alliances, they threw their support to the player who deserved to win the game.

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2. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
1) Spencer - still pulling for the kid. I knew when Jeff said the black rock would win over the white rock that Tony would win that draw. Black hat/white hat. I said last week that playing on Tony's paranoia was like shooting fish in a barrel, and Spencer played it nicely. But goshdangit - I wish he had won that "advantage" and evened the idol odds a bit.

2) Tasha - Immunity Challenge Monster. And that one seemed to favor the guys, as pulling up the bags required strength. But Tasha is a force. I just don't see her as being as instrumental in her and Spencer's strategy, though she's no slouch there either.

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3) Tony - Though I'm often actively rooting against him, he's made the season fun, and I have to credit his knowledge of the game, even if his implementation of tactics is sometimes off.

4) Woo - Mr. Whatever-You-Say-Tony. Likable though. That food porn scene with Probst was a riot. Probst was drooling a little, I believe, and he's not even starving.

5) Trish - has actually played a pretty good game. Her mistake is trusting Tony too much.

Chasm

6) Kass - hard to believe she has a lot of friends, and I'm not talking about on the island. What is her beef with Spencer, anyway? Taking joy in his pain is unnecessary and speaks to her character. Thought I would like her this season, but she is lacking, um, I dunno, a general predisposition to being kind to her fellow humans? Why so bitter, Kass?

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3. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
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01. TIE! Tasha (01) and Spencer (02), a winning team working together and autonomously. Three II's for her, one for him, and yet they have managed to keep deflecting the boot onto others. She definitely has winning ways and her social game is working, while he knows how to work the game to find the advantages. If either gets to FTC she/he wins. It's a toss-up if they both get there, but a guaranteed win for one of them.

03. Woo (05). For a guy who has had little control of the game, he keeps his eyes open for whatever he can do. Holding out on bidding at auction, he finally gave in and let Tony make the sacrifice Tony desperately wanted to make, and chowed down on the best food award of the day. (And the beer probably helped ease the pains, though I would have asked Probst if I could trade it for a lemonade or sweet tea. And maybe offered him $20 if he'd throw in a nice clean towel. They should never served BBQ ribs without moist towelettes, that's just rude.)

04. Tony (04). Guy is gaming overtime, and he's still amusing. But he totally got played by Spencer this week, underestimated the kid's ability to mess with his head. Whining at the full bellies at camp because he went hungry, whose fault was it that he went hungry!

05. Kass (07). Indulging her inner sadist nasty ol' biddy nearly kept her in bottomfeeder's spot, but...

06. Trish (06). Hey, Skeletor, just shove food in your yap and quit annoying the hungries.

Good-bye Jefra (03). Nice kid, she took the boot well, just waited too long to try to get some traction in the game.

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4. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
"They should never served BBQ ribs without moist towelettes, that's just rude."

I agree...but maybe their motive was hoping another "Erik" might fork over a few bucks to lick the sauce off Woo's fingers! LOL

"Whining at the full bellies at camp because he went hungry, whose fault was it that he went hungry!"

I'm not so sure it was the "full bellies" as much as he wanted others to also try to prevent Spencer/Tasha from getting the advantage. Their pathetic laziness also appropriately contributed to his whining.

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6. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
Their ###### laziness ... I'm assuming Spencer and Tasha aren't actually included in that "their." The fact is each and every one of them made a decision whether to bid for food or hold out for an advantage, none of them have anyone to blame for how things turned out at auction. Jefra, Kass, Trish and Woo chowed down and decided to have a lazy afternoon. Guess what, that's their prerogative. Tony wants to be opinionated about it because he's hungry, let him stew.

Spencer and Tasha didn't get anything to eat, nor any advantage. Tony got what he wanted, the advantage. Did Spencer or Tasha go whining around camp? No, they got busy working the game. They maintained. Tony lost control and acted out on his emotions. Shame the advantage turned out to be a clue to the HII rather than one less ball in the IC, he would have continued stewing through the night and right into the next morning.

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You are correct with your assumption...I was not talking about Spencer/Tasha. Actually Spencer and Tasha should be thrilled the others in Tony's alliance decided to feed their faces because it made the odds greater of either getting the advantage.

Think about it. As it turned out Spencer had a 50/50 shot of getting the advantage. Tony's point of contention is if even one more from his alliance decided to participate, Spencer's chances drop to 33%...if two more from his alliance participated, Spencer's chances drop to 25%...and so on.

Sure in the end it worked out neither got the advantage, but as a matter of principle it was clear Tony would be the only one from his alliance that was willing to do anything about it and sent a clear message should a similar situation occur in the future, he wouldn't be able to count on them.

For that reason I really hope Kass, Woo, and Trish are the next ones to go. If that turns out to be the order, I hope they thought the food (and their prerogatives) were well worth it.

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8. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
Tony has two idols to burn so he isn't going anywhere soon, and I am rooting for Spencer and Tasha, so I'll join you in hoping the next three are Kass, Trish and Woo. Of the three of them Trish is the only one with a good head for the game, the Sophie if you will who just wants to stick to the plan (except Tony keeps changing the plan).
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10. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
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"As it turned out Spencer had a 50/50 shot of getting the advantage"

The key words in your sentence are "As it turned out..." Yes, Spencer wound up with a 50/50 chance but how could any of the others have known that beforehand? Jiffy changed the rules and, for the first time, he offered everyone a chance to bid the maximum. Tony's determination to gain that advantage gave everyone in his alliance carte blanche to pig out. He would have whined just as much if someone in his alliance had engaged in a bidding war against him.

You really don't think like a conspiracy theorist: If anything, people will say that Probst tried to deny Tony the advantage which he should have automatically earned by being the first to $500. Once more, Jiffy did something to favor the underdogs.

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It doesn't matter what approach they end up using...it doesn't change the numbers or probability percentage.

Even if they didn't draw rocks and went the traditional route of whoever shouts out $500 first...Tony and one other from his alliance vs. Spencer only gives Spencer a 1/3 chance of shouting out first instead of 50/50. Tony and two other in his alliance vs. Spencer only gives Spencer a 1/4 chance of shouting out first. And so on.

As for the decision to draw rocks...my initial gut feeling why they changed it up and drew rocks this time might be because Tony opened up his big mouth during one of his gazillion confessionals and announced he would immediately use the tactic of being the first to shout out $500 to ensure him the advantage.

We all know Production doesn't like any player to be "one up" on them.

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The whole alliance must have known that Tony wanted the advantage. Shouting out first isn't a matter of luck but of preparation. If Tony was prepared to do it, he didn't need anyone else shouting over him.

I see that you have your own conspiracy theory going on there. Good for you! Finally...

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19. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
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"Shouting out first isn't a matter of luck but of preparation."

If you are aware of or ever attended a Reverse Auction you would realize that statement is incorrect.

In a Reverse Auction a ceiling price is established. If no one bites on that ceiling price, the auctioneer will incrementally decrease the value of the item until someone shouts out. Usually more than one may want the item at a particular price. In that case it goes to the bidder who shouts out FIRST.

Those who attend Reverse Auctions are prepared and know what they want to pay for the item. If a bidder loses out it's not because they were less prepared; it's because they were less fortunate by being beaten out by a split second among those shouting-out. The more who are vying for that item at a particular price, the more fortunate they need to have to win.

The Survivor auction is really a blend of both. Yes it starts out as a traditional auction; BUT the players are unable to bid more than $500, thus a ceiling price does exist.

In this case, as is the case of a Reverse Auction, probability and statistics apply simply because the more bidders who want that same item at the same ceiling price, the less percentage chance of being the first shout-out. Conversely, if fewer bidders are willing to shout-out for that same ceiling price there's obviously a better statistical chance of being the first shout-out. That's the point I'm making. And that's what Tony was hoping for from his alliance. If he was unable to be the first shout-out, he would have wanted someone other than Spencer or Tasha to win.

"I see that you have your own conspiracy theory going on there. Good for you! Finally..."

Rubbish...pure rubbish!

Listen, I'm aware that particular games may be formatted or season's twists can be advantageous toward a particular TYPE OF player. Historically, some formats/twists have favored the athletic; others have favored the pencil-necked geeks. Females, males and even the pathetically inept have been favored. And yes, Production may format particular twists/episodes where a castaway who has put out more effort and worked harder than the others might benefit.

My acknowledgement of those occurrences in NO WAY falls into a "conspiracy theory." To put those words in my mouth is utterly asinine. Conspiracy Theories are when it is suggested that production redo scenes to purposely favor or screw players. or when one player is purposely given the script to the season not privy to the other players.

Unless a whistle blower can provide total and indisputable proof of those shananigans, I will continue to poo-poo any conspiracy theory or silly nonsense posters may want to use to spin an episode simply because the season may not be going as they would like.


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21. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
I've heard many posters write about possible production riggings and most don't include redoing scenes. Most of the simple ones are just like you stated: Production heard someone say something in a confessional and decided to either make it happen or prevent it.

If you think production changed the auction rules because Tony said he would bid the max right away then that is your basic conspiracy theory. It's exactly comparable to the dozens of others I heard over the years.

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17. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
1- Spencer: I've had him at number 1 the whole season so he'll stay up there in what was probably his best episode. He figured out that it was better to work on Tony than against him.

2- Tasha: She is simply amazing, winning physical challenges over three strong guys. Tony was foolish to think the other women would want to align with Tasha. Having to beat her in the end would be like going up against Serena Williams at Wimbledon.

3- Tony: I really wonder if it was paranoia that made him act so stupidly or if it's a desire to be a memorable character. The dumba$$ has two idols in his pocket and the numbers. Only Spencer and Tasha could give him problems in the end yet he aligns with them. Very amusing but dumb.

4- I don't know who to place here so it'll be Woo: Did I hear him right when he said that he is on the same page with Tony 9 times out of 10? Really? Tony doesn't know himself what he will do next so how can this bozo know? His gay porn parody with Jiffy was funny though. Woo was really enjoying that big, tender piece of meat. (I think production was hoping Morgan would win that one and maybe, if they were lucky, a drop of sauce would have fallen on her boobs)

5- Trish: She was supposed to know how to handle Tony yet she couldn't see that her laziness exacerbated Tony's paranoia. Even with all the promises he gave her, he "cheated" on her once more. Like many battered women, I think she will stand by him, forgive him, until he does it again. Despite some good moves, what most viewers will remember will be her crazed look when she yelled out "Food!"

6- Kass: How can anyone think they have done enough in this game? The job isn't over until the players have answered the last jury question. She claimed that she could read Spencer yet she never realized that he had already flipped the game by planting a seed in the cop's brain.

Booted - Jefra: Please let us know when you decide that it's time to start playing your own game.

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20. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"

"2- Tasha: ...Tony was foolish to think the other women would want to align with Tasha."

Was he now? HMMMMM, Troy called out ALL the women as foolish to think anyone would be able to beat Kim. And he was correct--they were all fools thinking they could. But they still did anyway. Of course had they cut Kim loose, Troy becomes the frontrunner to win the season and in the end the women would much rather see Kim win over Troy.

If Spencer got voted out, we would have had a two horse race: Tony vs. Tasha. And who do you think the women would rather see win? YEP, the one they would have aligned with given that scenario: Tasha.



"His gay porn parody with Jiffy was funny though. Woo was really enjoying that big, tender piece of meat. (I think production was hoping Morgan would win that one and maybe, if they were lucky, a drop of sauce would have fallen on her boobs)"

Thanks so much for your confirmation. It wasn't just me with my interpretation of that "parody." And yes, I agree Pillow Morgan would have enhanced the viewing pleasure of the "parody."



"6- Kass: How can anyone think they have done enough in this game?"

I agree with your assessment, but I can understand why Kass may feel she's "done enough." Kass has earned her degree in Spinology, and I can definitely see how she will apply that "education" to take credit for any potential outcome this season.

If Spencer wins this season, she will have a prepared statement saying had she not flipped and voted out T'jia, Spencer would be sitting in the center of the top row on Finale Night instead of the far right side of the bottom row.

Should Tony and/or Trish make it to the Finals and possibly win, Kass will take credit for that as well because of her post merge flip.

The only realistic outcome she would have a tough time taking credit for would be a Tasha win because her post merge flip did put Tasha on the short side of the numbers.


"Booted - Jefra: Please let us know when you decide that it's time to start playing your own game."

Jefra had her own game she might have wanted to play??? LOL
Well I'm glad you didn't go on a hunger strike waiting for a Jefra game that didn't exist...unless of course you don't mind looking like Trish.

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22. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
Who do I think the women would want to see win? Themselves of course. They are still trying to win just like Kim's alliance was still trying to win. No one in their right mind gives away their chance for the money. Not even the One World women.

As for Jefra, maybe my comment was too cryptic but I was saying that she didn't have a game even though she claimed she did.

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23. "RE: S28 Love/Like/Loathe List Ep. 10"
Last week Jefra did try to alter tribal dynamics, and they confronted Tony. Bizarre in that he quickly reverted to form and it made absolutely no difference in the end. But at least she did try something.

Anyway, Tony's fear of a women's alliance was more paranoia than practical. Why? Yes, leave Tasha without Spencer, a women's alliance becomes one of her few remaining options. And Jefra is ready to jump. And Kass was all for a women's alliance with Tasha at the start of the game anyway. But how do they get Trish on board.

They really can't, and Tony should have thought about that. Because only Tony can push Trish away into a women's alliance. Trish is just hoping to get to the end with a goat and right now she has her choice of goats and Tony is her favorite.

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