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byoffer 15808 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-28-11, 12:14 PM (EST) "Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" This season of Survivor has been very interesting with the introduction of Redemption Island. The strategy has been changed up quite a bit, and I still don't think I have a good handle on how this will play out. For example, there are Jury members at Redemption Island who don't get to be witnesses to Tribal Council - I think that is a first. And we have no idea how a jury might vote if, say, Matt were to somehow survive RI and re-enter the game for a second time. He will certainly have had a chance to bond with very many of the jury and will not have been responsible for voting against any of them! Maybe getting to the end via RI is better from a jury perspective. The short sort of has 2 tribes now - Murlonio where they vote each other out, and RI where they just compete to eliminate others. I think the latter does less to hurt feelings (no back-stabbing required). Jury management/decisions will be very interesting to analyze both before and after the final TC. Rob seems to be dominating the show, but is that good under the RI Jury model? What are your thoughts?? (keeping this spoiler-free)   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... red1martini 04-28-11 1  RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... michel 04-29-11 2    RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... dabo 04-29-11 3        RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... iltarion 04-29-11 4            RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... dabo 04-29-11 5            RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... michel 04-29-11 6                RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... garyc 05-02-11 7  RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynami... MizJazmine 05-03-11 8  Such crap Jims02 05-05-11 9    Agree dabo 05-06-11 10        RE: Agree bleespoorpa 05-10-11 11

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red1martini 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 04-28-11, 12:56 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" If one more goes to RI that would be 5 against 5 and two equal tribes. Wouldnt it be fun if they had the two tribes play against each other like in the beginning AND tribe immunity. At least for two or three votes and whomever remains in both tribes then merge and finish out the game. Now that would be a good twist.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-11, 07:36 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" Stupid twist. Simple as that. Fire is life = You"re voted out, you're gone. That's the game. As for jury dynamics, the returnee would have an advantage   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

dabo 25344 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-11, 10:10 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" Agree. One person will return to the game, has the potential of making it to Final Tribal, and has the advantage of having been able to socialize with most of those on the jury (while at Redemption) without the baggage of game politics, deals, schemes, vote outs. Big plus for someone who wasn't actually playing the game. Coat-tailers get criticized but at least they have a valid strategy for getting to Final Tribal, not being voted out.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

iltarion 1791 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 04-29-11, 02:12 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" Well, I would point out that the basic rules of Redemption Island were spelled out to everyone at the beginning of the season. Therefore, everyone playing the game has to understand that voting someone out at TC doesn't end their game. They are still in the game, playing the game, and if you haven't planned for the possibility of their return, then that is your fault. Actually, this is another possible advantage to RI, possibly a crucial one, that it allows potential finalists even MORE influence on the jury. Whatever Ometepe gets sent to RI first, the game will very much still be going for them. They will find themselves in the minority for once, and will have the opportunity to distinguish themselves from Rob and earn votes. I would suggest at this point that Ometepe should be seriously considering sending Grant to RI where his challenge abilities would do the most good for them. He could essentially wipe out the Zaps and get them all on the jury. >   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

dabo 25344 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-11, 02:16 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" This is beginning to sound as if Rob should go to RI if he really wants to win, fight his way back while the OmeMurlonios have to Lord of the Flies on each other.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-11, 07:02 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" If they spelled put before the season that there would now be 4 outs in every inning, do you think it would make it all good. Anyway, people still have to be voted out so it is not as if there is a way around it. As for Grant being the pawn, he would be stupid to accept. Isntead of being sent to fight on RI, I would tell Rob that it would be better for the two of them to stay ion the game and team up there, fight together, whenever someone returns.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

garyc 118 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 05-02-11, 04:40 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" can't see why anyone would want to be sent to Redemption Island, as it deprives them of the opportunity to help determine events in the game, though in Matt's case he'd be long gone without it.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

MizJazmine 532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-03-11, 10:18 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Redemption Island & Jury Dynamics" >This season of Survivor has been >very interesting with the introduction >of Redemption Island. The >strategy has been changed up >quite a bit, and I >still don't think I have >a good handle on how >this will play out. > >For example, there are Jury members >at Redemption Island who don't >get to be witnesses to >Tribal Council - I think >that is a first. > >And we have no idea how >a jury might vote if, >say, Matt were to somehow >survive RI and re-enter the >game for a second time. > He will certainly have >had a chance to bond >with very many of the >jury and will not have >been responsible for voting against >any of them! Maybe >getting to the end via >RI is better from a >jury perspective. > >The short sort of has 2 >tribes now - Murlonio where >they vote each other out, >and RI where they just >compete to eliminate others. >I think the latter does >less to hurt feelings (no >back-stabbing required). > >Jury management/decisions will be very interesting >to analyze both before and >after the final TC. >Rob seems to be dominating >the show, but is that >good under the RI Jury >model? > > >What are your thoughts?? (keeping >this spoiler-free) > > > I was thinking along these lines as well. On some level on RI they're bonding and there's no scheming just challenges. So there aren't necessarily the hurt feelings from a jury that's been stabbed up. I think it's going to be interesting if someone from RI ends up in the F2/F3.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Jims02 7328 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-05-11, 06:22 PM (EST) 9. "Such crap" The above post summarizes pretty well what's wrong with a post-merge Redemption Island. But then in last night's episode, only the Redemption Island players can play in Reward Challenge?????? And they're given the opportunity to earn goodwill from jury votes, via giving away their prize????? Are you kidding me???? Geez, why do the contestants bother playing the immunity challenge if they can just have Mike hand it to one of them... A 2003 IceCat original   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

dabo 25344 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-11, 01:27 AM (EST) 10. "Agree" On the other hand, "lovrd ones" is basically just an overblown TV thing, it plays well but means little in the actual game. Mike even recognized in confessional that it was strategically futile and pointless.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

bleespoorpa 10 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 05-10-11, 08:26 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Agree" This season is doing great these days..It is finally coming to an end soon..The return of Bob and Russel made this show more interesting and full of twists. Love to watch it here: http://survivor.download-tvshows.com/   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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