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"Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
As the show turned off, the HoH competition was underway, and there was a 1 hour time limit on it. Also, the shelf that originally was a slight deterrent became a full blown PITA when they started moving it in and out to completely block the tubes that the soda cans were to go in........
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 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-20-09 1
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... AZ_Leo 08-20-09 3
       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-20-09 4
           RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... volsfan 08-20-09 14
               RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-21-09 15
   *happy dance* SilverStar 08-20-09 7
       RE: *happy dance* samboohoo 08-21-09 17
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-20-09 2
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... zazzy 08-20-09 5
 Time to study the faces... zazzy 08-20-09 6
   RE: Time to study the faces... vince3 08-20-09 8
   RE: Time to study the faces... Ahtumbreez 08-20-09 9
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-20-09 10
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-20-09 11
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... SilverStar 08-20-09 12
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-20-09 13
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... SilverStar 08-21-09 16
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Ahtumbreez 08-21-09 18
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Snidget 08-21-09 20
       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Queene1979 08-21-09 21
       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... zazzy 08-21-09 23
           RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... AyaK 08-21-09 42
               RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Queene1979 08-21-09 43
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Queene1979 08-21-09 19
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... vince3 08-21-09 22
       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... kingfish 08-21-09 24
           RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Estee 08-21-09 25
           Various directions... AyaK 08-21-09 26
               RE: Various directions... Estee 08-21-09 27
               I should have added... AyaK 08-21-09 28
                   RE: I should have added... kingfish 08-21-09 29
                   RE: I should have added... Belle Book 08-21-09 37
 Finale date announced vince3 08-21-09 30
   If they need two hours... Estee 08-21-09 31
       RE: If they need two hours... vince3 08-21-09 32
       RE: If they need two hours... AZ_Leo 08-21-09 33
       RE: If they need two hours... zazzy 08-21-09 34
           RE: If they need two hours... Kyrie 08-21-09 35
               RE: If they need two hours... kingfish 08-21-09 36
           RE: If they need two hours... Estee 08-21-09 38
               RE: If they need two hours... AyaK 08-21-09 39
                   Friday Updates AyaK 08-21-09 40
                       Noms samboohoo 08-21-09 41
                           RE: Noms Ahtumbreez 08-21-09 44
                               RE: Noms Queene1979 08-22-09 45
 Jordumb strikes again AyaK 08-22-09 46
   Paranoia strikes deep AyaK 08-22-09 47
   At this point, IceCat 08-22-09 48
       RE: At this point, Wacko Jacko 08-22-09 49
           RE: At this point, Jims02 08-22-09 53
               RE: At this point, Belle Book 08-22-09 55
                   RE: At this point, kingfish 08-22-09 57
               RE: At this point, vince3 08-22-09 56
 Minor paraphrase note to J&J Estee 08-22-09 50
   RE: Minor paraphrase note to J&J AyaK 08-23-09 75
 Beware of Penalties? vince3 08-22-09 51
   RE: Beware of Penalties? Estee 08-22-09 52
       RE: Beware of Penalties? kingfish 08-22-09 54
           RE: Beware of Penalties? Lorr 08-22-09 59
               RE: Beware of Penalties? vince3 08-22-09 62
                   RE: Beware of Penalties? AyaK 08-23-09 78
 POV Competition vince3 08-22-09 58
   Ho boy vince3 08-22-09 60
   Jeff wins POV suzzee 08-22-09 61
       RE: Jeff wins POV Belle Book 08-22-09 63
           RE: Jeff wins POV vince3 08-22-09 64
       RE: Jeff wins POV Queene1979 08-22-09 65
           RE: Jeff wins POV Jubilayhee 08-23-09 66
               Don't forget IceCat 08-23-09 67
                   RE: Don't forget vince3 08-23-09 68
                       Yup IceCat 08-23-09 69
                   RE: Don't forget zazzy 08-23-09 72
                       RE: Don't forget Belle Book 08-23-09 74
                           RE: Don't forget zazzy 08-23-09 76
                   RE: Don't forget Belle Book 08-23-09 73
                       RE: Don't forget AyaK 08-23-09 79
 HOH winning POV Queene1979 08-23-09 70
   RE: HOH winning POV kingfish 08-23-09 71
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Queene1979 08-23-09 77
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... AyaK 08-23-09 80
       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Wacko Jacko 08-23-09 81
           RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Loree 08-23-09 82
               RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... KAYLA1963 08-23-09 83
                   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... AyaK 08-24-09 88
                       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Estee 08-24-09 104
                           RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... zazzy 08-24-09 133
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... finallytyping 08-24-09 84
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... zazzy 08-24-09 85
       He also mentioned IceCat 08-24-09 86
       RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... kingfish 08-24-09 87
           No AyaK 08-24-09 89
               RE: No kingfish 08-24-09 91
                   RE: No AyaK 08-24-09 94
                       RE: No newsomewayne 08-24-09 107
                           RE: No Estee 08-24-09 110
                               RE: No AyaK 08-24-09 137
           RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... zazzy 08-24-09 90
               ... and she's taken to IceCat 08-24-09 93
               RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... kingfish 08-24-09 95
                   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... zazzy 08-24-09 103
 RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... Queene1979 08-24-09 92
   RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week ... AyaK 08-24-09 96
       POV plans AyaK 08-24-09 97
           RE: POV plans Queene1979 08-24-09 101
   It's seriously looking like IceCat 08-24-09 98
       RE: It's seriously looking like true 08-24-09 99
           Your logic is sound but IceCat 08-24-09 100
               Right AyaK 08-24-09 115
           Come on Curt414 08-24-09 102
               RE: Come on zazzy 08-24-09 105
                   RE: Come on Belle Book 08-24-09 111
                       One problem with that idea vince3 08-24-09 113
                           RE: One problem with that idea AyaK 08-24-09 121
                       RE: Come on zazzy 08-24-09 135
                   RE: Come on there goes the Ratings KAYLA1963 08-24-09 117
                       RE: Come on there goes the Ratings AyaK 08-24-09 118
                           RE: Come on there goes the Ratings Estee 08-24-09 119
                           I'm so looking forward IceCat 08-24-09 123
                               RE: I'm so looking forward Bar Belle 08-24-09 143
                           RE: Come on there goes the Ratings Lorr 08-24-09 142
                       RE: Come on there goes the Ratings Jubilayhee 08-24-09 124
                           Cootie whut? IceCat 08-24-09 126
                       RE: Come on there goes the Ratings no reality 08-24-09 130
                           RE: Come on there goes the Ratings no reality 08-24-09 132
                               RE: Come on there goes the Ratings zazzy 08-24-09 134
                                   RE: Come on there goes the Ratings no reality 08-24-09 138
                               RE: Come on there goes the Ratings AyaK 08-24-09 136
                                   RE: Come on there goes the Ratings michel 08-24-09 140
                                       RE: Come on there goes the Ratings zazzy 08-25-09 181
               The classics assist. Estee 08-24-09 106
 He did it vince3 08-24-09 108
   Name the movie. Estee 08-24-09 109
   RE: He did it KAYLA1963 08-24-09 116
   RE: He did it realityshowgeek 08-24-09 125
 Natalie's take on the POV meeting r... vince3 08-24-09 112
   Better quote from gNat AyaK 08-24-09 114
       ... and life is a box of IceCat 08-24-09 120
           RE: ... and life is a box of AyaK 08-24-09 122
       RE: Better quote from gNat Bar Belle 08-24-09 144
 Michele in the aftermath AyaK 08-24-09 127
   It's a longshot BUT Curt414 08-24-09 128
   RE: Michele in the aftermath Cindarella66 08-24-09 129
       RE: Michele in the aftermath Estee 08-25-09 145
       RE: Michele in the aftermath zazzy 08-25-09 165
   Michele joins the bashing AyaK 08-24-09 131
       RE: Michele joins the bashing true 08-24-09 139
           The gN/K endgame AyaK 08-24-09 141
               RE: The gN/K endgame Estee 08-25-09 146
                   RE: The gN/K endgame AyaK 08-25-09 147
                   RE: The gN/K endgame kingfish 08-25-09 148
               RE: The gN/K endgame true 08-25-09 149
                   RE: The gN/K endgame AyaK 08-25-09 153
                       RE: The gN/K endgame Ahtumbreez 08-25-09 155
                           RE: The gN/K endgame Estee 08-25-09 158
                   RE: The gN/K endgame zazzy 08-25-09 166
                       RE: The gN/K endgame AyaK 08-25-09 172
                           And Jeffoon's response? Estee 08-25-09 173
                               Won't happen AyaK 08-25-09 187
 Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele AyaK 08-25-09 150
   RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... vince3 08-25-09 151
   RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... Estee 08-25-09 152
       RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... AyaK 08-25-09 188
   RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... jbug 08-25-09 154
       RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... Estee 08-25-09 156
       RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... rayjj 08-25-09 157
           See post #100 above IceCat 08-25-09 159
               RE: See post #100 above AyaK 08-25-09 170
           RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... Estee 08-25-09 160
               Schadenfreudgasmic Finale? IceCat 08-25-09 162
                   RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale? Estee 08-25-09 163
                       RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale? kingfish 08-25-09 164
                   RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale? AZ_Leo 08-25-09 174
                       RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale? vince3 08-25-09 176
                       RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale? zazzy 08-25-09 178
           RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... Cindarella66 08-25-09 168
               RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... Snidget 08-25-09 169
                   RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... vince3 08-25-09 171
                       One my fave TNG episodes IceCat 08-25-09 175
           RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... nailbone 08-25-09 177
               A veritable Sphinctosaurus Rex IceCat 08-25-09 180
   RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Mich... zazzy 08-25-09 167
 We can guess Kevin hates us too. Estee 08-25-09 179
   RE: We can guess Kevin hates us too... vince3 08-25-09 182
       Um... Estee?... Vince? IceCat 08-25-09 183
           Don't worry. Estee 08-25-09 184
               RE: Don't worry. vince3 08-25-09 185
                   'We'? Estee 08-25-09 186
 Kevin's new lie AyaK 08-25-09 189
   RE: Kevin's new lie Shamoyla 08-25-09 190
       RE: Kevin's new lie Belle Book 08-25-09 193
 gNat's House of cards lies vince3 08-25-09 191
   RE: gNat's House of cards li... AyaK 08-25-09 192
       Ch-ch-ch-changes AyaK 08-25-09 194
           RE: Ch-ch-ch-changes kingfish 08-25-09 195
               RE: Ch-ch-ch-changes-FAVORITE KAYLA1963 08-25-09 196
                   RE: Ch-ch-ch-changes-FAVORITE AyaK 08-26-09 197
                       RE: Ch-ch-ch-changes-FAVORITE Ahtumbreez 08-26-09 198
 One scheme backfires AyaK 08-26-09 199
   RE: One scheme backfires Estee 08-26-09 200
       RE: One scheme backfires kingfish 08-26-09 201
           RE: One scheme backfires Estee 08-26-09 202
 Might as well go there... Estee 08-26-09 203
   RE: Might as well go there... kingfish 08-26-09 204
       Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Monste... Kyrie 08-26-09 205
           RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... mrc 08-26-09 207
           RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... Ahtumbreez 08-26-09 208
               RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... AyaK 08-26-09 209
                   RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... Glow 08-26-09 210
                       RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... Estee 08-26-09 211
                   RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... Ahtumbreez 08-26-09 214
           RE: Dumb/Dumber, The Four Headed Mo... samboohoo 08-26-09 213
   RE: Might as well go there... geekboy 08-26-09 206
   Jordan AyaK 08-26-09 222
       RE: Jordan zazzy 08-26-09 224
       If we must go there... Estee 08-26-09 225
           Agreed AyaK 08-26-09 226
           RE: If we must go there... michel 08-26-09 227
 Russell's apparently gone scorched ... vince3 08-26-09 212
   RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... AyaK 08-26-09 215
       Virtual knee drop. Estee 08-26-09 216
       RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... summerblue 08-26-09 217
           RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... vince3 08-26-09 218
           RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... Queene1979 08-26-09 219
           RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... true 08-26-09 220
               RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... AyaK 08-26-09 221
                   To quote Albert Einstein: Estee 08-27-09 233
                       New BB motto AyaK 08-27-09 245
                           RE: New BB motto Estee 08-27-09 247
               RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... zazzy 08-26-09 223
                   RE: Russell's apparently gone scorc... AyaK 08-26-09 228
 LML2 fails AyaK 08-27-09 229
   Temporary backfire AyaK 08-27-09 230
       Reusing the line. Estee 08-27-09 231
           RE: Reusing the line. vince3 08-27-09 232
               RE: Reusing the line. AyaK 08-27-09 236
                   gN/K figure it out AyaK 08-27-09 237
                       RE: gN/K figure it out Estee 08-27-09 239
                   RE: Reusing the line. Estee 08-27-09 238
                       RE: Reusing the line. Belle Book 08-27-09 240
                           RE: Reusing the line. Estee 08-27-09 242
                               Agree AyaK 08-27-09 243
                                   RE: Agree Belle Book 08-27-09 252
                               RE: Reusing the line. Bar Belle 08-27-09 250
 Thieves in the night, Part II. Estee 08-27-09 234
   RE: Thieves in the night, Part II. kingfish 08-27-09 235
       RE: Thieves in the night, Part II. nailbone 08-27-09 241
           RE: Thieves in the night, Part II. AyaK 08-27-09 244
               Hold it. Estee 08-27-09 246
                   RE: Hold it. Snidget 08-27-09 248
                   RE: Hold it. zazzy 08-27-09 249
 And we're in trivia... AyaK 08-27-09 251

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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings
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08-20-09, 09:49 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Jeff is confirmed as the winner of the HoH. Yeah, great work CBS/RealPlayer........

Tell us to head to the feeds, and then they don't work for the length of the competition!

This is getting infuriating!

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08-20-09, 09:58 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Since I'm getting my entertainment from watching all of you watching them (as opposed to paying any attention to the hamsters themselves) I think I'm in for another fun week.
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08-20-09, 10:05 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
I'm not infuriated in Jeff winning HoH...... yet.

I'm infuriated at CBS/Real who tell us that the feeds are where we can see stuff not on TV, like the competitions that start on the show and continue on. Then the feeds aren't on during the competition!?! False advertising BS.

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08-20-09, 11:07 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
It's been this way from day one. I remember a few years back...the feeds were off for over 48 hours because there was a twist and CBS didn't want anyone to know until it aired on TV. BIG BS!
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08-21-09, 00:29 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
That might've been when they had a "week in an hour" taped, I think...... I wonder if that was when Howie visited Marcellus?
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08-20-09, 10:11 PM (EST)
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7. "*happy dance*"
I'll admit it. Even though I was seriously ticked with Jeff this past week for all the dumb crap he pulled, I'm still overjoyed that he won. I just can't quit him.


-Bringing the Jeff sig back out until he starts being a moron again... I give it 6 hours.

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08-21-09, 08:33 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: *happy dance*"
*sits with Stah*


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2. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
They start talking about the POV competition questions, and then about Chima's job, and that draws the trivia back out.....
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5. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
And the discussion of Lydia's not needing the money because she worked for someone famous...and we go to trivia.
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6. "Time to study the faces..."
...because this week is usually the morphing comp, right?
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8. "RE: Time to study the faces..."
This week or the next one....... and it has to take place at night, so they can see the TV easily enough......
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9. "RE: Time to study the faces..."
I can see Michelle doing well with the morphing challenge. I know people want Nat out but if they're sticking with the J/J/R/M alliance then they should get Kevin out as Nat sucks at challenges.
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10. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Jeff got called to the DR, and hasn't been seen in a while.....

Speculation is Michele, Russell, and possibly Kevin are Have Nots. They talked about some kind of gold cans that they thought might've been some kind of prize cans, but maybe they weren't....... maybe they were Have Not cans....

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08-20-09, 10:22 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Apparently Kevin lost by one can, and his lane was shut down for a minute...... probably a gold can thing.
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08-20-09, 10:23 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-09 AT 10:28 PM (EST)

The HOH comp seems to have doubled as the Have/Have Not comp since Russell and Michele are now on slop. The HG's were saying something about gold cans, but I'm not sure what role they played since the freakin' feeds were blocked for the entire time! (I'm with ya, Vince. It's BS. But it's not a surprise since they LOVE to keep the good stuff from the feedsters who PAY to watch this crap.) From what I can gather, the gold cans allowed the platforms to block a certain individuals tube for 1 minute.

Kevin said something about the convo with J/J in the green room before the POV ceremony being about asking them if it was ok for him to vote for Lydia to stay. Darnit! I was hoping that convo was telling them about Natalie's lie.

Jordon just said Kevin lost the HOH by 1 can.

ETA- I'm out for the night. Freaking pop-up ads are making it impossible to stay on the boards. AyaK if you read this thread tonight, I posted a message in the Help Forum about the problem I'm having.

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13. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Kevin's a little irritated that he was updated as the leader, but Jeff was never announced as a leader, because Kevin would've hit Jeff, instead of Russell.......
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16. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
A whole new reason to hate Natalie...

I'm putting it in invisible text because I don't want to start a whole debate here. If you don't want to hear about sex and opinions of the HG's then don't bother to read.

Natalie thinks that the only reason Kevin is gay is because he hasn't given women a fair chance. She said he doesn't know what he's missing. And if only he would give women a chance, he wouldn't be the way he is. She said this to his face. To his credit, Kevin handled her opinion with a lot of class and just said "No, that's not the way it is."

As if I didn't think she was disgusting enough already. This just pushed me over the edge. It infuriates me. Kevin is GAY. That means he doesn't like women, he never has, and who the hell are you to question him when he's been with his husband for 9 YEARS! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate. I can't say enough bad things about her right now.

Before anyone gets in a tizzy... these are my opinions and Natalie is entitled to hers, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with her or respect her for them.

Ugh!

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18. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
I don't hate her. I don't like her and find her very ignorant about that particular subject, but her thoughts on it hasn't changed my opinion of her for better or worse. But I do agree with the "Ugh!".
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20. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
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Kevin's got more tact than I do, or a better sense of self preservation, he knows what she is capable of and definitely wants to keep her from going after him.

I would have looked at her and said honey, the only reason you are straight is because you haven't given women a chance and if you only found the right one you would never go back to men.

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21. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
OH SNAP!!!
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23. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
If Lydia were still there she probably would have said that!

Nat is ignorant.

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42. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
BTW, Lydia said on one of her post-show interviews that she and Jessie did it (yes, all the way "it") five times during the show, although they couldn't move too much becuase they didn't want to show too much on camera. She rated Jessie as a "4" on a scale of "1 to 10", but she gave every indication that he'd probably get a chance to improve that rating during this next week.
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43. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
I think I just threw up in my mouth a bit at the thought of that.
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19. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
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Who is Jeff thinking about nominating? I hope he sticks to the F4 of J/J/M/R and nominates Natalie and Kevin.

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22. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Last plan mentioned was Natalie/Kevin as nominees, and Russell as backdoor option.

The one thing about Russell as the backdoor option, though, is that Russell didn't play in the live POV competition that Jordan ended up winning. Russell could've been backdoored last night and only have about 5 minutes or so to save himself instead of the usual 3 days during a normal week's timeframe...... If they really want him out, that would've been a less painful option. (A really stupid option, too, but I digress.....)

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24. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Actually, despite all the stupid discussions and more stupid deceptions, the JJM alliance has made the predictable decisions when choosing Noms, exercising POVs and the CdeE, and eviction voting, haven't they?

There have been a lot of red-herrings, but the actual decisions have been made as if they are adhering to their master plan. I would not be surprised to see that plan continue with Gnat and Kevin going up this week. With Russell as a POV pawn.

Maybe voting Lydia out instead of Nat last time was a bit of a variance on what one might call their master plan, but that was a coin flip anyway, right? The 3-1 split had to reveal Kevin as not being in step with JJM, and the nom. of Gnat has to be a no-brainer.

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25. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
and the nom. of Gnat has to be a no-brainer.

Finally, a decision within JeJo's capabilities!

Unless they've managed to progress into negative brain.

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26. "Various directions..."
Jordan is still upset that she didn't try to backdoor Russell. Jeff, however, wants to make sure that anything he does is done slyly (he thinks). Yes, he's going to nominate Gnat and Kevin, because he doesn't want the open challenge to Russell. So far, so good. We'll see if he can stay on track that long.

In the interview below, Alison Grodner stated that Dumb and Dumber (J/J) "are not the sharpest tools in the shed." You have to be pretty dim when the producer says that about you.

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/whoa-brother-truth-about-chima_5397

Note that AG said that it really was Russell's intention to put Jeff up this week if he won HoH. So the LML had an element of truth.

By the way, last night Jordumb said that young Jeff looked like Jim Carrey from Dumb and Dumber. I never noticed the physical resemblance, just the mental one.

Because of their shared circumstances (HNs), Russell and Michele have started talking again. After everyone else went to sleep, they had a 3-hour conversation outside. Michele apologized for having told Jeff all of their conversations. They seem to have reached an agreement, at least at this time.

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27. "RE: Various directions..."
Dear Alison,

If you don't enjoy dealing with stupid people, all you have to do is stop casting them.

Sincerely,
The ever-dropping live feeds audience.


The DR must be losing its collective voice. (And mind.)

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28. "I should have added..."
Gnat and Kevin schemed to break up the Dumb Alliance. They;re going to offer a final four pact to Dumb and Dumber on the grounds that Russ and Michele aren't trustworthy. Gnat said that, if it works, Russell gets booted and then they win HoH, they'll nominate Michele and Jeff, tell Jeff that Michele is going, and then vote for Jeff to be eliminated. Because they vote will be 1-1, the HoH will get to break the tie and boot Jeff.

Nothing like planning your lies ahead of time.

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29. "RE: I should have added..."
And I left out a really really snarky face when I mentioned that JJM have a master plan.

"Master plan" and "JJ" do not belong in the same sentence. Or hemisphere.

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37. "RE: I should have added..."
Well, let's hope their little scheme doesn't work and that either Kevin or Natalie goes home this week (my heart says Natalie, my brain says Kevin because the guy's a bigger threat to win challenges than Natalie is).

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30. "Finale date announced"
Tuesday, September 15th, 2 hours @ 9pm ET.
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31. "If they need two hours..."
...then we're probably looking at a live text/'net vote to control Chima's key: let the F2 present their arguments, then give the viewers some time to act on them while the Chenbot provides a full hour of labor pain filler. Which may be the best-case scenario for filler: gawds only know how they're going to stretch this mess to 120 pre-commercial minutes, and the elder ones are using the knowledge to drive their worshipers insane.

This will hurt.

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32. "RE: If they need two hours..."
Well, they'll have plenty of time to show all parties involved (after the hamster jury votes, of course) the lies of Natalie...... unless she, by some miracle, makes it to the Final 2........
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33. "RE: If they need two hours..."
live text/'net vote

Making it half of America's vote. The only "live" shows on the west coast are the Oscars and some sporting events.

It's a pet peeve of mine that they still have that "live" sign on shows that are on tape for those of us on this side of the country.

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34. "RE: If they need two hours..."
I've always wanted the finale to be 2 hours. There is so much to recap from the season, the early-out people only get to say about two words in the one hour show; there's never any time to get a reaction from the winner...there are always things Julie never gets to...and this year we will get to it all.

For example: I hope there is a retrospective of Ronnie hurling insults at Michelle for playing just the way he did (showing his play) and then making Ronnie comment on it!

And then a recap of Jesse's playing both Nat and Lyd....

And a retrospective of Nat's lie's...

There is so much for them to cover!

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35. "RE: If they need two hours..."
I'm with you Zazzy!

I also would like to see a recap of Russell being HOH, he and Michelle forging an alliance, and in the space of an hour, him bringing Chima in to confront Michelle. I'm still /mind boggled over that one. I think he really started the DA, not J/J.

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36. "RE: If they need two hours..."
And there has to be plenty of war footage that they didn't have time for earlier.

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38. "RE: If they need two hours..."
there are always things Julie never gets to...and this year we will get to it all

I so want to start a betting pool right now.

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39. "RE: If they need two hours..."
We KNOW that AG will make the Chenbot discuss Gnat's lies, because Gnat is at least the second-best liar ever on BB.

Beyond that, I'm not placing any bets.

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40. "Friday Updates"
LAST EDITED ON 08-21-09 AT 08:24 PM (EST)

The HaveNots got churros and chitlins.

Jeff basically tells Gnat and Kevin that they'll be the noms. If one of them wins veto, Russell will go up. Perfectly sensible strategy. Natalie lies again and talks about what she heard with Russ and Michele, but Jeff tells her to win veto.

Kevin realizes that if they don't win veto, he's going home. He pushes Gnat to try harder to get Russell and Michele nominated. She demurs, noting that Jeff is playing this well. Gnat also expects that this will be the morphomatic competition for POV.

Gnat and Kevin repeat the Green Room lie.

Dumb and Dumber talk. Dumber says that Gnat is "like a little Lydia to drag along" and wants to keep her until final 3. She thinks Gnat is honest and has no game. My goodness, what a moron Jordan is.

And speaking of evil, I have to quote Gnat verbatim, talking to Kevin in the Haves Room:

"All I know is first chance I get, I'm sending Jeff home. He's been running this house since week 3. People don't see that. They don't think that. But he's smart as hell, and we have to get rid of him if we want to advance in this game. As much as I'd like to get rid of Michele, it's much more important to get rid of Jeff."

JEFF has been running the house since week 3? I'm sure Jeff would like to have known that back when he and Jordan were being dissed by the mean majority and Jessie was HoH.

Honestly, I think she believes all of her lies are true.

Nominations are taking place now.

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41. "Noms"
Kevin & Gnat.

Please let Russell win POV.


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44. "RE: Noms"
I'll add my pleas to the wishing of a POV for Russell.
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45. "RE: Noms"
PLEASE BB have Michele or Russell win POV.
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46. "Jordumb strikes again"
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Jordumb has now decided that Gnat is her BFF and wants for Jeff and herself (Dumb and Dumber) to make a final four pact with Kevin and Gnat and backstab Russell and Michele.

Jeff had a great plan this morning, except for the last part: boot Kevin, then Russell, then Michele, then Gnat. (His best plan would be to boot Gnat first, not last, but this isn't bad) But nothing sensible ever survives for long with Dumb and Dumber.

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47. "Paranoia strikes deep"
Jeff finally has gotten tired of the target that he's put on his back as the leader of the Dumb Alliance. When Jordumb asks him to tell Michele that they need to win POV but not to tell her that they want to backdoor Russell, he erupts at her for not doing any of the "dirty work", because that leads to his butt being the target.

More than you know, Jeff, especially if you trust Gnat.

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48. "At this point,"
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-09 AT 06:19 AM (EST)

... Natalie has to be considering keeping Jeff and Jordan around. As the stupider and more docile pair, they have to present less of a threat going forward. If either Kevin or Natalie won HoH, they would seriously have to consider going after Russ and Michele next week.

The only players who (quite correctly) view Natalie and Kevin as virtually unbeatable against the jury are Michele and Russ. If either of them won HoH, they would definitely go after Kevin and Natalie next week.

Have Dumb and Dumber, blindly stumbled into an almost safe week next week regardless of who wins HoH?

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49. "RE: At this point,"
JJ are a piece of work, here I was rooting for them all season long...now I want to root against them as they are too stupid to win. If either of them won they would be the dumbest winners on any show I have seem yet.
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53. "RE: At this point,"
The worst thing is that they don't realize what a risk it is to take Natalie to the F3 with them instead of Michelle. I wouldn't want Natalie or Kevin anywhere near the Final 3 because the jury house is filling up with their friends. If Natalie got into the Final 2, she'd have three votes automatically (Jessie/Kevin/Lydia) and would only need one more to win. Can you imagine how perfect it would be if Chima was on the jury too?

And Natalie can throw out the "I'm only 24" revelation in the F2, which might buy her that winning jury vote, even if she was up against Jeff (which seems unlikely, because neither player would take each other).

Michelle? She probably couldn't even beat Jordan in a F2 vote. I shudder to think about such a finale.

There's always the factor that Natalie is more beatable in the F3 HOH competition than Michelle, but there's no sure thing in Big Brother. I mean, Janelle, for all her competition winning in BB history, struck out at the F3 HOH. Twice.

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55. "RE: At this point,"
I think it would be a good idea to get rid of Kevin as he's stronger than Natalie, more likeable than Natatlie and they need Russell for the numbers. After that, as long as either they, Michele or even Natalie wins HoH they can then put Russell on the chopping block and (hopefully) get rid of him. Then they can get rid of Natalie at Final 4 and keep Michele around for the Final 3.


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57. "RE: At this point,"
Physically, Natalie is probably stronger and better coordinated than Kevin, and a better bet in a physical comp. If it's one that doesn't make her puke.

Supposedly she is some sort of martial arts champion.

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56. "RE: At this point,"
I watched something that Real had: Chelsia (BB9), Eric and Nick (BB8) watching Chima's farewell episode in a bar and taking questions with fans..........

During the clip they said something interesting: they think Jordan's got no chance at all, despite the fact that she's playing better than everyone thinks that she is...... (paraphrasing) "If you were in the jury, would you want to say that you were on the season that Jordan beat you? No!"

I think the only chance Jordan might have is against Michele, mostly because of Michele's inability to get her point across.... much like Survivor's Amanda..... among others.

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50. "Minor paraphrase note to J&J"
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-09 AT 09:17 AM (EST)

'Natalie is a horrible, loathsome, supremely selfish creature who behaves contemptibly, laughs at the pain of others, has no manners whatsoever, and whose mental acuity would be compared unfavorably to that of a table. And yet I find I could almost prefer her to you.'

At least Natalie has two functioning brain cells. (They only speak to each other in lies, but they're in there.) At least Natalie can count jury votes (hooray, brain cells!) and isn't working with a strategy that comes down to 'It'll be just us at F2 and they have to vote for someone'. At least Natalie is making some attempt to play the bloody game.

Which doesn't change her being a vaguely human-shaped toadstool. But at the absolute minimum, she's an active bundle of poison-riddled fungus. And when those voting for you are mere slime molds...

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75. "RE: Minor paraphrase note to J&J"
I find myself agreeing with this. J/J are so loathesome in their total ##### to Gnat and Kevin that it would be nothing more than justice to see tham out next.

Gnat's already planning her speech; she says that she's going to say the same thing that Jeff said in using the coup to boot Jessie. She's so thrilled that he's so stupid.

And Jordan has made it obvious that she hates Russell and Michele. Only a moron like Jordan herself wouldn't know that J/J are planning a double-cross. But they're too stupid to guard against receiving one as well.

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51. "Beware of Penalties?"
Jeff, for "openly telling Natalie and Kevin that they would be nominated"

Russell, for taking a hot shower as a Have Not.........

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52. "RE: Beware of Penalties?"
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Someone would probably have to report Jeff on the first, but I'm sure Natalie would be happy to volunteer. I just don't know what the penalty is. Something along the lines of 'the informed parties are automatically off the block and safe from backdooring' is what the informers would be hoping for, but we've never seen this one come up before -- there's no way to tell what happens next. Jeff losing HoH is way too low on the possibility list. He probably has to give up half his snacks. (Note that if it's something truly major, Natalie might save the rules flip for Thursday.)

Russell? Odds say an extra day as a Have-Not based on previous incidents. It's not enough for a penalty nomination.

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54. "RE: Beware of Penalties?"
Is there really a rule against telling someone they are going up?

What with the second by second changing opinions and strategies (strategy is loosely defined in this case), no one really knows who is going up, so whatever anyone (including IMO the HoH)says could only be accurate by coincidence.


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59. "RE: Beware of Penalties?"
If there is a rule against telling someone they are going up than it has been violated on every BB and I don't recall anyone being given a penalty
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62. "RE: Beware of Penalties?"
Natalie seemed to think so, when (I think) Michele nominated her, she complained about her trying to get a penalty issued.....
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78. "RE: Beware of Penalties?"
Kevin asked Natalie this specific question after Jeff told them they were going up. Natalie said that the DR said that it wasn't a real rule with penalties when she complained about it with Michele, so for Kevin to just forget about it.
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58. "POV Competition"
is underway, and it's the annual visit by the mighty tiki god OTEV!
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60. "Ho boy"
Jeff has won the POV.

And by the little bit I heard before I turned it off, he's planning on sending Russell on the Backdoor Express........

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61. "Jeff wins POV"

According to Sucks & Jokers and he's thinking of BDing Russ but he's going to go over all the scenarios before finally deciding.
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63. "RE: Jeff wins POV"
Good that Jeff's just going over all the scenarios before deciding what to do with the PoV. And I'm going to be praying he decides not to use it! I want Kevin or Natalie out -- my head says Kevin (he's won one challenge, a PoV and is more likeable) but my heart says Natalie because I can't stand her. Right now, my head's got the majority vote.


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64. "RE: Jeff wins POV"
Well, we're now overdue for the morphomatic. It has to be next week, so hopefully he'll also keep that in mind.......
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65. "RE: Jeff wins POV"
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-09 AT 10:42 PM (EST)

Someone needs to fly a banner over the house saying "Jeff and Jordan: Kevin and Natalie are lying to you" Come on, we have had no banners yet this year!!!

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66. "RE: Jeff wins POV"
How would it benefit Jeff and Jordin to keep the smartest person in the house and the most atheletic person in the house as the final four. If you truly had J/J interests you would want Russell backdored as well.
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67. "Don't forget"
Nobody from J/J/R/M can beat K or N in final 2 with this jury. The priority for everyone from J/J/R/M has to be getting rid of K and N.

Dropping R now lets K and N get dangerously closer to final 3 territory where anything could happen.

The failure to recognize this is what makes J/J = D/Der

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68. "RE: Don't forget"
Basically, if either Kevin or Natalie make it to the Final 2, Jessie, Lydia, and the other one are automatic votes for them..... and you have to figure that one of the three of the Fractured Four/Dumb and Dumber alliance would be ticked off enough about the knife in the back to strike the deathblow vote........ making America's vote for Chima pointless......, maybe.
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69. "Yup"
J/J/R/M need each other in some combination of two in order to win. It's almost as though Jeff thinks he can win every challenge to the end.

Hubris and stupidity make for bad strategy and more than likely bad TV, too.

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72. "RE: Don't forget"
From Jokers updates:

Sun 2:02 AM BBT Jeff: We can't afford to get too cocky either. - xaipe
Jeff: We have to look at all the angles. Maybe we're missing something. You don't think they (n/k) would lie to us, do you? We save them & then they turn around and put us up?


OK, ITA now, Dumb and Dumber.

At least Michelle is catching on to Nat's age lie...

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74. "RE: Don't forget"
I hope they do catch on! I'm praying that they do!

I think that Jeff & Jordan aren't so much dumb as they're naive in terms of gameplay -- at least. BTW, what does ITA mean?


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76. "RE: Don't forget"
I totally agree


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73. "RE: Don't forget"
LAST EDITED ON 08-23-09 AT 04:22 PM (EST)

Yeah -- that's why I want Kevin gone before Russell. Russell can go afterwards (although I'd rather have him than Natalie in the game), and then Natalie. Of course, if Russell is the new HoH, I can always go with Natalie going before Russell -- and I'd prefer that!


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79. "RE: Don't forget"
And that was jeff's original plan, but his brain exploded.

Even though Russell and natalie sat in on a lot of the Mean Jessie Alliance conversations, they can't convince Jeff that Gnat and Kevin are total liars. Dumb has gotten so paranoid that he's convinced they want him to focus on Gnat and Kevin so that their own alliance can stick together. Dumber even distorted her talk with Michele today to Dumb so that Dumb would get mad at Michele and let her keep her "friend" Gnat to the final three.

Little do Dumb and Dumber know that Gnat and Kevin have spent the whole day working on scenarios to backdoor Jeff. Gnat says that she's tell Jeff that if he wins POV and takes himself off, she'll put Jordan up in an effort to Marcellus him.

Gnat says that if she or Kevin don't win HoH next week with Jeff sitting out, they don't deserve to win the game. They both agree that priority #1 has to be "get Jeff", because they know that's their only chance to both make Final 3.

Jeff, meanwhile, doesn't believe that Kevin and Gnat are any threat to him. Like IceCat says, you lose games like this due to hubris. And so he is.

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70. "HOH winning POV"
LAST EDITED ON 08-23-09 AT 12:12 PM (EST)

I looked at the history of the POV being won by the current HOH. Since the inception of the POV in season three, it has been won ten times by the current HOH. Of those ten times the HOH has changed their nominations four times and has left them intact six. I don't know what this means for tomorrow's POV ceremony but, more times than not the HOH/POV winner has chosen to leave their nominations intact.

Edited to correct the quantities.

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71. "RE: HOH winning POV"
The mildly surprising thing about that stat. is that the HoH changed their Nom. four times. The exercise of the POV is integral to the Backdoor or Trapdoor strategies, but for the HoH, who originally made the noms, to then change them 44% of the time is (yawn) surprising.

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77. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
It seems as if right around this time during the season I get this feeling of impending doom that the show is about to go downhill with Jeff backdooring Russell and not for real reasons, they are all fake. If there were real reasons maybe but with the machinations of Kevin and Natalie involved it bums me out.
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80. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
LAST EDITED ON 08-23-09 AT 09:41 PM (EST)

Jordumb is completely supporting the backdoor strategy. Jeff still has a few functioning brain cells and knows that he's taking a risk -- he told Jordumb that he's still not certain about what he'll do. It bothered him today when Kevin and Gnat, in a replay of their earlier game play, stripped the blankets off the beds in the HN room to harrass Michele and Russell. But Jordumb stuck up for them, repeating Kevin's lie that they didn't know they'd taken the only blankets.

Watching Dumb and Dumber head for the rocks is like watching one of the old Greek tragedies.

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81. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
If Jeff has any braincells. That is a big IF, he'd know that he (or Jordumb) can not beat Kevin and Natalie in a jury vote. If he can not see Kevin/Nat are on the other side of the house......Michelle/Russ on his side. It is really very simple. Honestly I dread watching the show every week...waiting for Dumb and Dumberer dissapointment me. I don't know why he can not see how would Russell turning on his alliance help him...Nat and Kevin will never join forces with him....turning on Dumb And Dumberer would put him squarely on the opposite sides of both sides.
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82. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
I think Jeff would have been better off without Jordan in the house. He is trying so hard to take both of them to the Final 2. It is not likely to happen. Everytime I think Jeff is seeing the whole picture... Jordan says something foolish and he believes her and starts playing Nat's game for her.
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83. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Jeff is smart and has carried Jordan through this game. But she is good at games where you have to rememember, she was neck and neck with michelle.

The only positive thing of getting rid of Russell now is the male competitor. It would be stupid though to keep Nat or Kevin around since you could never trust them from the beginning.

I was wondering what is going on Tues? Is it live?

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88. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
No, the Tuesday show will show the veto competition (won by Jeff) and the POV ceremony (from today).

I think they're hoping for a good Russell outburst if Jeff backdoors him tonight.

Kevin & gNat are also hoping for that, because they can't believe that Jeff would actually be so stupid to leave both of them in the house when he can't play HoH this week. Kevin said that, if he and gNat survive, he would start believing in God again.

Kevin is convinced that Jeff will see him as the biggest threat, especially since he's been coming so close in competitions. And, to be sure, such thoughts do cross Jeff's mind (possibly put there by the DR). But he and Jordumb quickly whisk them away.

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104. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
such thoughts do cross Jeff's mind

And turn out to be incapable of surviving in a vacuum.

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133. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Estee....just one of many comments you've made that has me totally LOLing!
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84. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
In tonight's episode Jeff clearly was depicted as lacking intelligence during his conversation with Michelle about her research. I remember earlier in the season they showed Jeff teasing Jordan about her not being able to tell time or something. They set us up to think how smart Jeff was, when in fact, the bar was just being set very, very low.

Have we started a thread, "Things dumber than Jiffy and Jordy?" Wasn't really necessary, hunh?

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85. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
I thought he seemed intimidated by Michelle, with the underground lab and all. He tried to neutralize it by saying she should be spending time perfecting counterfitting $...because in his job, it's about sales/$.
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86. "He also mentioned"

... his prior experience building LEGO castles.

With the use of the instruction sheet, of course.

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87. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-09 AT 09:08 AM (EST)

I didn't. I thought he seemed genuinely impressed. And I thought it was nice of the editors to include that, and that it makes Michele seem like a good guy, and maybe their choice for F2 material.

Except for the hilariously ignorant things she says, Jordan is getting good edit also. But as cute and sweetly chaste (poor Jeff) a southern belle as she is, Jordan has to go. I can't envision a scenario (maybe Gnat and/or Kevin do a little damage before they are both booted?) for that right now, but it has to happen.

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89. "No"
gNat and Kevin know that Jordumb is no threat. They want her as the third in their final three. Their plan is to get Russell this week (or, instead, to have Jeff get him), boot Jeff next week and, with luck, boot Michelle the week after that. Then they'll have their dream final 3 ... and there's really no chance that Jordumb will win HoH over them in the final 3.

As far as Jeff and Michele, all he's focused on is that she doesn't make much money, so in his view she can't be that smart. He'll get another view of that when he walks into the jury house next week without even making final 4, having blown the best position of power that any houseguest ever has blown.

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91. "RE: No"
With 5 left (next week) Gnat and Kevin very well might nom JJ if they get HoH (and aren't booted this week).

They could see the two vote bloc of JJ as being the biggest threat to either of them getting to F2. Putting them both up at the same time would mean they couldn't vote, and with four remaining the following week, this could scare them into looking at booting J or J.

Michele could see Jeff as the better F2 partner and vote to boot Jordan. And if there is one/one tie, it would depend on the whim of the HoH. And who knows?

Basically I agree though, it seems unlikely at this point that they would focus on Jordan. especially if Russell's in the house. And Gnat would just dearly love to boot Jeff if she could.

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94. "RE: No"
Actually, gNat and Kevin have the whole plan worked out. If either of them win HoH, they'll nominate Michele and Jeff and tell Jeff that they really want to get Michele. All their focus will be on getting Michele ... until the vote. If Jeff wins veto, they'll nominate Jordan as a replacement and boot Michele. Otherwise, they'll boot Jeff. They have also discussed trying to talk Jeff out of using the veto (if he wins it) so that Jordan doesn't get nervous by being nominated.

Kevin doesn't think Jeff is that dumb. But gNat says she can see Jeff doing it to keep Jordan in a good mood.

Neither has any interest in nominating Jordan. The whole point is to mislead Jeff into thinking that they are on his side, and nominating Jordan doesn't help that.

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107. "RE: No"
If Jeff wins veto, they'll nominate Jordan as a replacement and boot Michele.

Unless it is Jordan that wins veto and removes Jeff. Then it becomes gNat or Kevin on the block with Michelle and J/J controlling the vote.

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110. "RE: No"
AKA 'The Last Hope Of The Stupid'.

And since this move hasn't raised their collective IQ of 2 any, JeJo would immediately try to vote out Michelle.

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137. "RE: No"
Unfortunately, I think you may be right. If they did that, they would retire the prize for the stupidest ever to play BB. Marcellas would be pleased, at least.
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90. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Jordin? Chaste? She keeps discussing her sex life with her former BF with other house guests in front of Jeff, discussing BJ's and asking Kevin about gay sex. I'm surprised the guys on this board haven't been calling her a ----- tease.

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93. "... and she's taken to"

... to letting her towel slip in front of the cameras.

There's full frontal vid-caps of her out there and she should sue her plastic surgeon cuz her bolt-ons look like... bolt-ons.

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95. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
I hadnít heard that (donít get the feeds). I just saw the part where she wouldn't do any more than kiss a little and maybe cuddle with Jeff if he took her to Hawaii, yet she acted upset that he wouldnít take her on those terms. If I were Jeff Iíd rather go alone than go with someone who drew that kind of line in the sand. I mean, going with someone to explore a relationship doesnít mean there have to be any promises of sex, but there doesnít have to be a promise of no sex, either.

I get the impression that she is just very naÔve (her having implants has shaken that view a little). She doesn't seem to have much exposure to cultures outside her Charlotte environs.

Prick tease, thy name is Jordan.

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103. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
Let's just say that from her conversations with other house guests...she is not sexually naive.

Worldly, though, is a descriptor that does not apply to Jordan.

Tell me guys, if you were crushed out on a girl, and were sleeping with her/cuddling with her every night, with no sex and barely a kiss, would it be sexually frustrating to hear her talk about her sexual escapades with her first boyfriend?

BB is painting the "good girl" picture for Jordan...and in some ways she is being a "good girl". I just thought it was a lot for a "family show" on at 8 pm to have Jordan saying "I'm not a ho" and "men think with their penises". I can just imagine one of my young nephews asking my sister-in-law -- mommy, what does that mean?

BTW, even if you don't get feeds, you can get pretty good recaps with pics at BBdish (they even recount some conversations) and detailed info at Jokers updates.

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92. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
What time do they usually do the POV Ceremony?
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96. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 7: Recycling winner, and then there were 6"
It's usually in the afternoon BB time, so that means after 3 PM EDT today.

The actual time can vary, though.

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97. "POV plans"
Jeff's plan is to pull off Kevin, because he thinks Kevin is more likely to win next HoH and so will more likely be loyal if he's not nominated. Dumb, but about the best we're going to get out of Jeff.

Russell, however, has no illusions. He knows that if Jeff pulls off either of his noms, that he's being backdoored. Since Michele can't afford to vote against Jeff, it will be 3-0.

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101. "RE: POV plans"
I am a Jeff/ Jordan fan, I want them to go to the F2 but if they go through with this I seriously hope that he goes up and is evicted next week.
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98. "It's seriously looking like"
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-09 AT 01:49 PM (EST)


... Russell getting the backdoor treatment.

J/J were in the HoH discussing how Kevin was coming off the block and they were even fabricating some sort of story about randomly picking playing cards to choose between Natalie and Kevin to come off.

They're working on some pretty fine details for this just to idle discussion of possible options.

Looks like Great Festival of Dumb is about to commence.

Edited to add (from Jokers) the following private convo currently underway between Nat and Kevin:

10:41 AM BBT Nat saying, "If I win HoH next week, under no circumstances is Jeff safe."
10:41 AM BBT Kevin says (to himself) "Please Jeff, don't think this one through."

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99. "RE: It's seriously looking like"
I agree that Jeff is dumb for not thinking jury votes, but at this point, everyone but Jordan would put Jeff up next week, so he really needs to be thinking jury and who would be easier to beat in the competitions going forward.

It doesn't really matter what Jeff does at this point, he is the target of both sides.

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100. "Your logic is sound but"

... Jeff isn't using the same logic.

Jeff actually trusts Nat and Kev and that's the core element of the stupidity.

Even if Mich and Russell are targeting Jeff, there is one thing that moderates that desire: the need to give priority to removing the two people that none of J/J/R/M can beat.

There is a logical reason to keep Russ and Mich so trust shouldn't even be a consideration at this point.

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115. "Right"
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-09 AT 10:12 PM (EST)

Jeff doesn't have any solution that's 100% safe. His danger week is next week, and Russell could win HoH and backdoor him. But he's just guaranteed that he has no possible way of winning the $500,000. Under only one scenario does he win from here in, because he has to face a jury with potential votes from Jessie, Lydia, gNat, Kevin, Russell and Michele. The only scenario under which he wins is in a matchup with Michele, where she wins last HoH. He'd get all the votes except for Russell in that case.

Other than that, he has no chance of winning. In fact, unless Michele or Jordan win next HoH, he's gone, and he'll get to have his jury house face-off with Russell from a position of abject stupidity.

If Michele wins HoH, she'll nominate gNat and Kevin and Jeff is safe for a week; Lord only knows who Jordan will nominate (not Jeff, though), but it's not very likely that she'll win.

Edited to add: If gNat wins HoH, remember that she would not have been there except that Jeff himself chose to keep her over Lydia and made voting for Lydia's exit a test of loyalty within his group (loyalty that he didn't reciprocate). To quote another old saying, what goes around comes around.

If he had voted out gNat last week and Kevin this week, he would indeed have to worry about being backdoored by Russell next week if Russell didn't stick to the plan to boot Lydia. But his actions have now created an almost CERTAIN exit for Jeff should gNat or Kevin win HoH.

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102. "Come on"
Seriously, Jeff is really that dense that he can't see Jessie- Lydia already in the jury house won't vote for him or Jordan over Nat- Kevin.

If he breaks his word to Russ that's 3 votes against him. Does he really think Nat or Kevin would support him over each other.

Michelle or Russ need to gather the dense pair set them down and walk through what happens should he backdoor Russ.

Even if he really does believe and maybe even likes Kevin and Nat more than Russ/Michelle. Kevin and Nat have to go PERIOD.... He nor Jordan,Russ or Michelle would stand a chance against Nat/Kevin of winning a vote at the jury house....

Come on he has to see it. It's not that hard to see. Right?

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105. "RE: Come on"
I don't think Jeff is thinking about the jury votes...I think he is just trying to get to F2.

He has fallen into the thinking:

--Nat and Kevin won't win HOH or that he can beat them at the POV, even tho Kevin has won a POV b4 and has come very close at winning HOH's numerous times.

--Nat isn't any good at comps instead of that she has been throwing them

--that Nat and Kev wouldn't lie to him and Jordin. This last one is the most laughable!

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111. "RE: Come on"
Well, Natalie hasn't won any HOH or POV competitions! If you were in the Big Brother house, it might be easy to think that she wasn't that good! I hope that Jeff doesn't really believe that Natalie & Kevin would lie to him & Jordan -- though I could believe Jordan would think such a thing! As for Kevin, I believe Jeff's thinking that either Jordan or Michele could beat Kevin in the next HOH competition. He might be right.


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113. "One problem with that idea"
Michele was collateral damage in the backstab at the POV Ceremony Corral........ if Russell's gone, she lost her F2 partner......

She's now an angry swing vote........ and the venom's aimed at Jeff, probably.

If she wins HoH, she might put up one of each pair, and tell them: You fight it out! The only then that there might be both halves of a pair then is if the non-nomineed half vetoed their pair-mate...... then she's forced to nominate the last possible choice......

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121. "RE: One problem with that idea"
I doubt that Michele is a swing vote. She knows that Kevin and gNat want to get her, so she'll focus on getting them were she to win HoH next week.

She doesn't know about Jeff, and so (unlike Jeff) she'll make the smart play. Her deal with Jeff was final three with Jeff and Jordan, and she'll stick to it (even though she thinks Jeff just made a mistake).

For now, at least.

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135. "RE: Come on"
From BBdish: "Russell is still coaching Natalie. Natalie pretty much says she has not really been trying at comps. She tried on the POVs when she was up."

Anyone who's watched BB just knows that not everyone tries hard on those comps! Jeff should not have assumed.

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117. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Worse Big Brother Ever

Jeff WAS playing smart, with America giving him the coupe to put up jessie, but this. How many steps back did this put you. What were you thinking. Makes me not want to watch anymore. I hope the producers step in and do something.

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118. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
>I hope the producers step in
>and do something.

Other than brain transplants for Dumb and Dumber, I don't know what the producers could do.

And the ratings aren't necessarily shot. I think a lot of people would like to see Jeff get booted next week. I know I would.

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119. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Given the loving care with which he's attached the giant KICK ME! sign to his own back, it would be a shame not to honor his request.
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123. "I'm so looking forward"
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-09 AT 06:44 PM (EST)


... to the next few episodes.

I want Natalie to win next HoH and send Jeff to the...

Big Brother Main Event...

Russell "The Love Muscle" Kairouz
vs
Jeff "The Tactician" Schroeder

It's Fury in the Jury!

Russell should dust off Muhammed Ali's famous 'Rope a Dope' for this one... with a slight modification - use real rope.

Hang 'im high.

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143. "RE: I'm so looking forward"
*Giggles*

That made my night. Of course there was also Jessie and Russell yelling and getting in each others' faces. What would that event be called?

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142. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Perhaps the person responsible for bringing in this group of HG's should be replaced
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124. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Yeah like give him another Coup de Twat, LOL
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126. "Cootie whut?"
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130. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
>Worse Big Brother Ever
>
>Jeff WAS playing smart, with America
>giving him the coupe to
>put up jessie, but this.
>How many steps back did
>this put you. What were
>you thinking. Makes me not
>want to watch anymore. I
>hope the producers step in
>and do something.


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132. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Jeff has blown his chances of the biggest prize unless he could make it to the F2 with Michelle. Otherwise, he can't beat anyone else with the Jury. It was still better for him to remove Jesse inspite of what he has done lately. America wanted Jesse out and Jeff to succeed. However, Jeff is now self-destructing and Jordan probably doesn't have enough on the ball to survive on her own. Don't be surprised to see Kevin or Natilie win it all or end up in the F2.
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134. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Welcome to the boards, No Reality!
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138. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
Thanks Zazzy.
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136. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
>Jordan probably doesn't have enough on the ball
>to survive on her own.

It amazes me that she hasn't been eaten by a hungry animal already. She's prey, pure and simple.

>Don't be surprised to see Kevin or Natalie win it
>all or end up in the F2.

Honestly, it all depends on the next HoH. gNat thinks she's going to win it. If she does, I wouldn't be surprised to see both Kevin and gNat in the F2.

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140. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
The new CBS promo is trying to prepare the audience for that, making Kevin and Gnat the underdogs facing a powerful alliance of 4.
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181. "RE: Come on there goes the Ratings"
I just want to throw up!
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106. "The classics assist."
This is a forest.

This is a very large group of trees that just happen to be really close to each other.

And Jeff? Sees a place to carve his name right next to Jordan's inside a heart -- then doesn't understand why the park ranger is arresting him.

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108. "He did it"
Jeff bloody did it.

Jeff used the POV on Kevin and put Russell on the backdoor express.

Needless to say, once the feeds returned, Hamster War whatever # is next was ON! This one included threats of violence in the jury house between the two of them, because Russell's sure that Jeff won't be too long behind him (and he's probably right...)


Jeff now has only one (possibly guaranteed) chance to be safe next week: Jordan winning HoH.


Unless Michele can somehow convince either Kevin/Jordan that Russell would be a better choice to stick around, especially against Jeff's gameplay insanity, Russell's probably gone 3-0...... With Michele seething for revenge......

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109. "Name the movie."
take a deep breath
prepare for the worst
the stupidest man
in the un-i-verse

Whatever happens from this point on, he brought it upon himself -- and I will have no bloody sympathy whatsoever. Idiot.

Anyone who's that bad at counting jury votes doesn't even deserve to be on the thing. Let him quit in frustration before his inevitable eviction: I'd love to see what happens when America controls two keys...

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116. "RE: He did it"
Bad move Jeff. You rather believe and keep those other 2. He is so stupid. He just lost the game. Unless Jordan votes Nat out Russell is gone.

He should of waited another week. Hw beleived the QUIET one.

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125. "RE: He did it"
Hip-Hip-Hooray!! I'm so glad he used it. Russell is a jerk and michelle is so squirrely she makes me nervous. Despite all the needless lies and being drunk with lite-beer power, I hope Natalie or Kevin wins. At least they played the game and if Jeff and Jordan or to stupid to see beyond their noses all I can say is ...BWAHHHHHHH!!! You know what they say, "stupid people die in stupid ways"...that applies to BB too. If you're stupid, you will be evicted based on something stupid.

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112. "Natalie's take on the POV meeting results?"
"America, you just saw that the LML (Last Minute Lie) was a success!"
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114. "Better quote from gNat"
Well, I liked it better. gNat to Kevin:

"You need to thank God.. If <Jeff> had a brain, he'd've let you win POV. This will be HUGE for you and I... Probably game saving for you and I, and game ending for Jeff."

She's right. The dumbest thing is that Jeff thinks he's safe from gNat and Kevin.

Stupid is as stupid does. Jeff is stupid.

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120. "... and life is a box of"
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... Hey, this don't taste like no chocolate!

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122. "RE: ... and life is a box of"
Mama says they was magic shoes. They could take me anywhere. Like straight to the jury house.
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144. "RE: Better quote from gNat"
If Gnat/Kevin do win HoH and nominate Jeff I can see his sad reaction going along the lines of, "You talked about honor and you stabbed me in the back/threw me under the bus."

But somehow Gnat will spin it so she never lied, I think she's that icky

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127. "Michele in the aftermath"
Michele realizes (accurately) that Jeff has set her up as gNat and Kevin's target next week. Now the coldness from Jordumb and Jordumb's buddy-buddy with gNat finally makes sense to her. She realizes that, if she doesn't win HoH, it's Jeff's intent that she's gone (but little does she know about the impending double-cross by gN/K).

Russell asks her if she thinks it will do any good for him to talk to Kevin and see if they can flip him. She tells him (correctly) no.

I think we can safely say that Jeff has lost Michele's vote in the jury house as well as Russell's. He's got to be a contender for "Dumbest BB Move Ever."

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128. "It's a longshot BUT"
Russell needs to remain calm talk with Michelle and then approach Jeff-Jordan and lead them step by step through why this is such a bad move for them.

Use crayons if needed. Trust should be a NON ISSUE at this point in the game. It's a game of numbers and who you can beat in the jury house period.

Once Jessie- Lydia went to the jury house the whole backdoor Russ-Michelle-Jordan or Jeff train had left the station.

I just hope Michelle/Russ can compose themselves enough to lead the dimwits back to the correct path.

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129. "RE: Michele in the aftermath"
Actually, both Russell & Michele's only hope is back up a few posts: they need to sit Dumb & Dumber (not even sure at this point which is which, but leaning towards Jeff being dumber) down and rationally explain to them that neither have a snowballs chance in he** of winning unless one of them wins either HOH or POV every week from here out and they take each other to the final two. Because they would never get Jessie's and Lydia's jury votes over Kevin or Natalie and they have just thrown away their (Russell's & Michele's) two jury votes by not honoring the F4 agreement. Then all that's needed is Dumb and Michele to vote to evict Natalie. It probably would never work though because it requires Dumb & Dumber to have rational thought. <Sigh> Guess I'll be rooting for Kevin now, or not watching at all.
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145. "RE: Michele in the aftermath"
It probably would never work though because it requires Dumb & Dumber to have rational thought.

Right: never count on any BB plan which requires someone to have one firing neuron. At this point, I don't know what Jeff's running on, but brainpower isn't it. I'd love to see him sit down in front of the camera and seriously discuss his plans for the endgame -- somewhere in his mostly-empty head are the made-up reasons why the jury's going to vote for him over anyone else, and that footage could be the funniest segment in series history. 'Russell will respect my mad fighting skillz!'

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165. "RE: Michele in the aftermath"
Welcome to the boards, Cinderella, and Curt!
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131. "Michele joins the bashing"
Having figured out where she stands, Michele joins Dumb and Dumber in Russell-bashing. Jeff tells her that he couldn't trust Russell and she agrees.

Jeff says to her that he's sure this week will be endurance and that Jordan/Michele need to outlast Kevin/gNat.

No mention of Jeff's rant to Jordumb from earlier when, after Jordumb told him that Michele was lobbying to take out Kevin, Jeff decided to take Kevin off the block because he didn't trust Michele -- so we have no idea how sincere he is.

gNat tells Kevin that Michelle must be stupid for sticking with Jeff/Jordan as the third person in that group.

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139. "RE: Michele joins the bashing"
Stupid move? Yeah, but honestly do people really think Jeff had a real chance of making it to the end had he stuck to the plan?

Had he booted K/N this week as planned, he still would have been the target next week, and most likely been the target til the end. But, with this move, even if he did win every challenge from here to the end he killed his chances with the jury. His chances were always slim, now they're really slim.

So?

Moving on.

Russell goes this week, and Jeff goes next. (most likely) However, I disagree that GNat and Kevin should want each other in the final 2. They need to go against one of the dumbos, Michelle included, to seal the victory. If they face each other, it could go either way. GNat will soon realize that Kevin is now her biggest threat, but how will she dump him and keep his jury vote? Or, will Kevin step up and throw GNat under the BB Bus?

Jeff's dumbass move makes the game much more interesting from here on out. Way to go Jeff!

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141. "The gN/K endgame"
I hadn't wanted to speculate on this, because I hope it doesn't come to pass. But...

If the final four are gNat, Kevin, Michele and Jordan (as appears likely), ratings will plummet. But the gameplay will be 2-against-2. If gN/K win HoH, Michele is gone unless she gets POV. If J/M win HoH, Kevin is probably gone unless he gets POV.

In the final 2 scenarios:
1) gN/K/M or J -- gN or K votes out his or her partner, under the logic that all of his or her alliance will vote for him or her for the sure victory (and the partner will undersatand, having been planning to do the same thing). Neither has any reason to want to face the other one in the final 2. M or J votes out one or the other of gN or K but still loses in the exact same scenario. At least M has a chance of getting Russell's vote and forcing a 3-3 tie to America's vote, but J does not. However, just to get here, M needs to win F4 POV followed by F3 HoH.

2)M/J/K or gN --Michele and Jordan will carry each other to the final two, knowing that neither could beat K or gN. K or gN will carry J, for the reason that she has no chance of getting Russell's vote and thus must lose.

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146. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-09 AT 08:59 AM (EST)

Do you see any Jordan victory scenarios here? So far, the only one I've got is partially Rattie's fault: enough long-term hate seeds planted for at least three people to vote against Michelle, followed by the South voting in self-repeating droves.

As reality wins go, that would stand a chance at being the literal all-time no-brainer.

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147. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
Jordan can only win in a Jordan/Michele F2, She'll get gNat's and Lydia's votes, because gNat and Lydia hate Michele as much as they hate Jeff. She'll probably get Jeff's vote (because I think, after the fashion of the truly stupid, that he'll blame Michele for making him susceptible to the LML, not himself for believing it). Thus, she needs a fourth from Jessie or Kevin or from America.

Those votes depend on how HoH plays out.

Note, BTW, that Lydia has no reason not to talk about the LML at the jury house. And, since we're talking about Lydia, I have little doubt that Russell will know all about it within 24 hours of arrival there, and Jeff will find out from Russell as soon as he gets there. Russell may even find out about the Green Room lie while there.

I have a feeling that we could have a very interesting jury session as a result, no matter what happens with the F2.

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148. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
If Jordan wins next HoH (admittedly a very long shot), and/or Jeff wins next week's POV (he is becoming a challenge favorite), and if by then Jeff get's the real picture courtesy of Kevin/Gnat overplaying their hand (not impossible for a BB genius to do), then a boot (straight nom, or backdoor) of Kevin or Gnat could happen. That might set the stage (with a couple more improbable wins) for an F2 of JJ.

Jordan would win that. At least 1/2 of America's Choice votes (thanks to the bath scenes) would go her way.

You wanted a scenario...you didn't say it had to be a good one.

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149. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
Ratings will plummet? Are Jeff/Russell really that popular? I don't think either of them were going to make it much further either way, and the feeds always get really dull as the numbers dwindle.

At least with Russell gone, the pick-off stops and some game actually takes place. Are the remaining players likeable? No, but I don't think Jeff or Russell are all that great, in fact, this whole cast was just.plain.dull. Personally, I find Kevin more entertaining/amusing than I find stoopid Jeff, or dumb Jordan. They're cute, but good gawd, they're dense. The others aren't much smarter. Russell and Michell couldn't charm/talk their way out of a paper bag. Did Russell really tell Jeff to his face that he wants him out at final 4? What an idiot. Michelle has proven to be socially stunted from the beginning. She may be a brain, but Jessie had more social skills, and that's not saying much.

Kevin seems to be the only one who is thinking clearly, and while GNat is devious, she is just too annoying to root for.

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153. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
>Ratings will plummet? Are Jeff/Russell really that popular?

I think it's more that the showmance of J/J was that popular, and nobody wants to see gNat win. Except gNat, of course.

> I don't think either of them were going to make it
>much further either way

Russell certainly wasn't. But Jeff's popularity was through the roof when his side turned the tables and started winning; My pick for final 4 was J/J/M and Kevin. I personally thought Jeff was the likely winner, before his poor game play diminished his chances to their current subterranean level.

>and the feeds always get really dull as the numbers dwindle.

They didn't in BBAS. Remember all the scheming in the final four of Dr. Will, Mike Boogie, Janelle and Erika, especially when Janelle realized that she was getting played by Will?

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155. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
I don't think there will ever be a season that can live up to BBAS final four. *sigh
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158. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
At this point, I'll settle for this season not living down to BB6's final one.

Patiently waiting for the moment when Natalie admits to killing someone.

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166. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
They will start showing the jury house at some point and make it more of the show if the rest of the show is getting boring. That will keep the viewer's attention.

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172. "RE: The gN/K endgame"
Yeah, I actually like the idea of watching Russell and Lydia telling Jeff about the LML in the jury house.
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173. "And Jeffoon's response?"
'That never happened! You're just trying to trick me into voting for Natalie! She would have told me if she'd had to lie to me to save her own skin! Because she's just that honest!'
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187. "Won't happen"
You're probably right.

But gNat says that Jessie told her that you weren't allowed to talk game in the jury house. If that's right, then Dumb and Dumber won't find out about the LML until after they vote.

They'll probably vote for gNat to win.

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150. "Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-09 AT 08:56 AM (EST)

Kevin set up Dumb and Dumber by telling them nasty Michele stories last night, and Dumb and Dumber took the bait hook, line and sinker.

Back in the HoH room, Jeff went on a HUGE psycho rampage about Michele and basically said that he hates everything about her. He basically turned on her completely during his rant and said that he'd like her to go home ASAP after Russell, telling Jordan that they need to be nice to her this week so she could protect them if she wins HoH, and then they'd send her home next week. He went on and on trashing Michele and Russell long into the night, with Jordumb's help. Jordumb told him that all of Michele's quirks are nervous tics because she's always lying.

Now that he has power, Jeff is turning into one of the least likable houseguests ever. Maybe he can hang out with Evel Dick when this is over, because I can't imagine that many other people will want to be around this living bundle of misplaced paranoia.

If anyone out there is still on Team Jeff or thinks that Jeff and Jordan are a cute couple, please come to your senses. It's not that they're booting Russell, because at some point they needed to do that before Russell did it to them. Instead, it's that they are every bit as nasty and spiteful as Chima and Ronnie -- and they're doing it at the end of the game. Like I said yesterday, it will be fun to watch Jeff march out the front door with gNat and Kevin's knives in his back.

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151. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
Basically it comes down to this, from when they had the wake for Jessie: pot ------> kettle
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152. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
For me, it breaks down like this:

I hate both Jeff and Jordan because they're not only dumb, they're willfully ignorant -- and Jordan's proud of it. (It's not cheating, it's confirming her answers.) They're also low-scale bigots who happily throw around slurs and don't understand why anyone would ever be offended: bonus points!

I hate Kevin because I've hated Kevin since Day One and since nothing about him has changed in any way, I'm hardly going to stop now.

I hate Natalie because -- well, see Post #50. But at least she's playing the best only way she knows how.

I dislike Russell because his lack of gameplay coupled with the emergence of his temper has made it difficult to accept him as a viable player. Plus he stopped changing his facial hair every five minutes.

I can tolerate Michele.

Michele has no chance to win.

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188. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
I do think there has been a strong shift in favor of Michele in public opinion since Dumb and Dumber revealed their true colors. Telling the truth an sticking to your alliance seems to be bad BB strategy, but it's certainly led to a rehabilitation of her public image, despite all of the trashing that Ronnie tried to do to it.

The first thing that happened in this show that made me think it might not be awful was when Ronnie got booted. And it was pretty interesting until J/J turned into Chima/gNat Mark II.

You know, when Michele talked about her brother's death, I had no idea that it was so recent:

http://obits.nj.com/obituaries/starledger/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=125631505

I can understand that she needs the money, but it's a real shame that someone suffering through personal tragedy was put into a house with professional liars like gNat and Ronnie.

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154. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
Note
If Jordan is to be Jordumb,
then Jeff is to be Jeffoon.

okay ~~~~ back to enjoying the speculations

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156. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
Done. (I wish we had rep points just so I could give you two for that.) And if Russell's visible IQ drops any lower, let's start calling him Russet!
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157. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
Its funny how so many posters talk about how dumb this one or that one is, but think about it. We all have FAAAAAAAAAAR more info to judge things on than the players in the house do. Everyone lies in there, it all depends who you think you can trust the most, and who you can't. I think Jeff made a smart move putting Russel up, he's easily one of the 2 biggest threats in there, Michelle being the other. He had to take one of them out before they did it to him. And as far as who will get which vote from the jury, I think past jury members have surprised me with how they vote, and even if they personally do not like someone, they have voted on gameplay on occasion. Jessie was pissed to have been booted the way he was, but he did admit it was a smart move on Jeff's part.
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159. "See post #100 above"
Jeff is stupid because he is even considering trust at this point in the game. There is a trust-independent logic-based argument to keep Russell that Jeff chose to ignore over his 'trust' argument for Nat and Kevin.

Jeff operated on trust instead of considering everyone an enemy and acting based upon the logical motivations of those enemies.

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170. "RE: See post #100 above"
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-09 AT 01:59 PM (EST)

One of the things I found to be hilarious was that Jeff was trashing Russell to Kevin because Russell said to Jeff's face that he had other plans. Kevin, of course, just sat there silently, being thankful that Jeff prefers to be stabbed in the back without warning.

Edited to add: I also want to make sure that I agree with IceCat's point. Once you get down to final 8, trust can't be a factor. IN BBAS, Chilltown threw James and Danielle under the bus and sided with Janelle because George wouldn't backdoor her like Will wanted. But Jeff doesn't believe that two people who were his sworn enemies at the start of the game would do the same to him, even though he did it to Jessie.

For Jeff to believe that he and Jordan can trust gNat and Kevin earns him all of the brickbats he's been getting.

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160. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
There have in fact been BB jury members who have (to varying degrees) put aside their petty hatreds and voted based on gameplay.

I will now start collecting bets on this jury having more than two.

Because I really want your money.

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162. "Schadenfreudgasmic Finale?"

A Jeff vs Natalie final two with Jeff losing unanimously not even getting America's vote which Chenbot gleefully reads out. Even though it's not necessary she does it only for the pure grind-the-boot-heel-in-his-dopey-face satisfaction of doing it.

Deleted and reposted because the title was truncated and I really wanted to use the word 'schadenfreudgasmic'.

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163. "RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale?"
I really wanted to use the word 'schadenfreudgasmic

And who can blame you?

I can see Jordan voting for Natalie. Admittedly, that's mostly through not being able to read the names on the keys...

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164. "RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale?"
Jordan in DR: "Oh....I thought I was suppose to vote for who to stay. Sorry."
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174. "RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale?"
Not being a frequent watcher of anything other than these posts I'm curious what makes everyone so sure Jessie wouldn't vote for Jeff or Russell? Isn't he basically a misogynistic dolt who considers women as props, like gym weights? Wouldn't he be more likely to vote for one of his own? And wouldn't Lydia do what ever she is told be St. Jessie?
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176. "RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale?"
Jessie's also a dummy. Therefore, he can be heavily influenced, especially by his "girls"..........
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178. "RE: Schadenfreudgasmic Finale?"
I agree. Jesse even said in his exit interviews that Jeff made a good move, etc. Those comments + Jesse's view of women have me thinking he'd vote for Jeff's gameplay. Plus, if Nat is in the finale, who knows what he'll have been told by that point about the things Nat has been saying about him in the house. Surely Lydia is driving that wedge now.
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168. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
This is where I think Jeff is being dumb: he has very little forethought about the end game & jury votes. His only plan is for he or Jordan to win everything from here out. Chances of that happening are slim & none. Janelle used that plan and lost twice, but it worked for Evil D*ck & Danielle, mostly because they were both competition monsters.

And trust or not, if he thought about the last HOH, that should have told him who was on his side. Russ used his gold cans to pause the leader, Kevin, for a minute, allowing Jeff to catch up. Since Russ had one of the lowest can counts and is a "Have Not", I don't think he did that solely for himself. And then there's Kevin, who has been vocal (although I'm not sure that he has around Jeff/Jordan) about his displeasure that when he was in the lead, it was constantly announced, but when Jeff got the lead, it never was. That should at least give Jeff pause (along with other things) in putting explicit trust in Kevin. Kevin wanted that HOH badly enough to continue to whine about it. Hmmm, why could that be?

I've been rooting for Jeff & Jordan until this bonehead move, but their brains are defintely not firing on all cylinders.

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169. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
But the ones that blink their eyes and say they never lie are telling the truth.

The ones that admit they are playing the game can't be trusted.

or somesuch.

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08-25-09, 01:47 PM (EST)
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171. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
Down is up, left is right, etc.?

THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!

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08-25-09, 02:50 PM (EST)
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175. "One my fave TNG episodes"
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177. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
We all have FAAAAAAAAAAR more info to judge things on than the players in the house do. Everyone lies in there, it all depends who you think you can trust the most, and who you can't.

The problem with this logic, and with what J/J are doing, is that they HAVE enough info to know that Nat's a liar if they would just stop and analyze things for a minute. She's given ample clues that she's lying about her age, but only Russell has figured it out, and for some reason he's not saying anything about it. OTOH, Russell has given them several examples of how he's NOT lying, but they ignore all of that based on something he *might* have said.

What's so frustrating for me is that I liked J/J and thought they had a great plan to get themselves to the final two. Then Jeff gets HOH and suddenly it's all flip-flopped over into a majorly dumb plan that very likely will get Jeff voted out next week. Jordan, who actually had some decent flashes if insight, has stifled all of those, and Jeff's turned into a giant a-hole.



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08-25-09, 03:36 PM (EST)
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180. "A veritable Sphinctosaurus Rex"
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08-25-09, 01:16 PM (EST)
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167. "RE: Dumb and Dumber rant about Michele"
Just want to echo what Ayak is saying...if you don't have the feeds, now is the time to get the free trial and use the flashback feature and watch two events from the last 24 hours--first, the post POV ceremony F^CK OFF argument between Jeff and Russell--it was like two bulls butting heads. Jeff telling BB to get someone from security out there...etc., etc.

Just put August 24, 1pm, camera 1

The next is the nearly unbelievable nasty paranoid rant Jeff was doing over Michelle last night, talking about how he wanted to cut off her toe and more. He was going on and on about how he hates her. Apparently only Jeff and Jordan are allowed to scheme and strategize and backstab but no one else is.

And yet, they still believe that Nat and Kev are on the up and up!

Just put in August 25, 2 am (I think it's the 2-3 am rant), camera 3 or 4


I'm still rooting for Michelle. Please, a miracle. I could stand it if she wins. Perhaps Kevin, too. But not Nat! Ugh.

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08-25-09, 03:18 PM (EST)
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179. "We can guess Kevin hates us too."
His latest brilliant theory: Ronnie controls all BB discussion sites. We can presume we don't matter to Kevin, right up until the moment we start slamming doors in his face. And it's only 'face' if the timing's off.

The 'America's jury vote' issue is going to totally blindside him, isn't it?

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08-25-09, 04:40 PM (EST)
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182. "RE: We can guess Kevin hates us too."
Obviously, he's never been to a BB discussion site before, then..... we pretty much hate everybody!
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08-25-09, 04:51 PM (EST)
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183. "Um... Estee?... Vince?"

Did you guys check with Ronnie before posting this?
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184. "Don't worry."
He gave his permission just after the wedgie hit the ten-minute mark.
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08-25-09, 05:42 PM (EST)
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185. "RE: Don't worry."
And then we gave him a couple more minutes for no take-backs.....
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08-25-09, 05:45 PM (EST)
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186. "'We'?"
I left the room so I could write the post!

...huh. And here I thought his neighbors had a cat in heat.

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08-25-09, 06:37 PM (EST)
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189. "Kevin's new lie"
He's been hoping that Russell/Michele would come talk to him about saving Russell, so that he could throw her under the bus with Dumb and Dumber, but she hasn't.

So he and gNat are now debating telling another lie and just claiming that Michele did. He's sure that Jeffoon will fall for it.

His other scheme was to vote for Russell to stay and then blame it on Michele (which is actually a very good scheme to fool D/Der), but gNat said that if she went home because of him doing something like that, she'd make sure that she got even.

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08-25-09, 07:09 PM (EST)
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190. "RE: Kevin's new lie"
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-09 AT 07:40 PM (EST)

Let's just hope Jeff keeps running his mouth about how f*****
Michelle would be if she votes for Russ. If Michelle can convince the others she will vote out Russ and Kevin votes against Nat to make her look bad, she could vote Nat out. She could justify it to J&J by saying she knew K&N would cast the wonky vote and blame it on her and of course J&J would never believe her.

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08-25-09, 09:02 PM (EST)
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193. "RE: Kevin's new lie"
I'm going to pray that Kevin decides to vote out Natalie, even if he's doing this to make Michelle look bad, and that Michelle helps vote out Natalie! Or better yet, I hope Kevin realizes that Natalie's been lying from Day One about so many things and turns on her!


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08-25-09, 07:37 PM (EST)
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191. "gNat's House of cards lies"
might come tumbling down if she doesn't actually tell Kevin that she's really 24.......

Even Kevin is starting to doubt that she's 18, and she told him that she is 18, really!

If they can also figure out that she was the hinky vote against Laura? Watch out for collapse!

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08-25-09, 08:55 PM (EST)
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192. "RE: gNat's House of cards lies"
Jeff said he'd blow up if the vote on Russell's elimination was 2-1, so Kevin's still thinking about throwing a vote at gNat and expecting Dumb and Dumber to leap to the wrong conclusion.

Meanwhile, gNat and Kevin have gone into full-scale lying mode in an attempt to sabotage Michele. She asked Michele who she would nominate if she was next HoH, and Michele said gNat and Kevin. Then gNat said that she'd nominate Michele and Kevin, in an effort to make it appear that she isn't close to Kevin.

They've already started to try to fabricate stories of Russell/Michele convos, since they don't seem to be able to get the real thing.

After the success of the LML, they feel invincible. And so they should, around Dumb and Dumber.

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08-25-09, 09:48 PM (EST)
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194. "Ch-ch-ch-changes"
Kevin's given up on the hinky vote idea, because he's worried that gNat might really get voted out, and it would kill his chances.

They've decided to launch "Operation Sleep Deprivation" against Michele, which they'll explain to Dumb and Dumber as being Michele's paranoia ... unless they get caught doing it on spy camera, at which time they'll just say that they were goofing around. They realize that Michele winning HoH is the only real negative for them, because one of them will go home -- gNat thinks she can talk Jordan into booting Michele if Jordan wins HoH.

Operation Sleep Deprivation's goal is to have Michele miss some questions in HoH, if it's questions.

Jordan, who really must be painfully close to retarded, told gN/K that she thinks Michele will nominate J/J if she wins HoH.

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08-25-09, 11:20 PM (EST)
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195. "RE: Ch-ch-ch-changes"
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-09 AT 11:22 PM (EST)

So, presumably, in order to keep Michele awake one or both of them also have to be awake, and also sleep deprived, not helping their chances for HoH. Leaving a rested Jordan, and sleep deprived Michelle, Gnat and Kevin to compete.

The odds would still be pretty much stacked in Michele's favor.

Quien is mas estupido?

Something tells me that between now and Thursday, Gnat and Kevin will overplay their hand. They may have too much left time to not screw things up. It's the BB way.

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08-25-09, 11:49 PM (EST)
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196. "RE: Ch-ch-ch-changes-FAVORITE"
j/j have been my favorite,