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"Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 6: Michele and the double fallout"
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-13-09, 09:29 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 6: Michele and the double fallout" |
Now that she sees that Russell is with Jeff and Jordan, does Michelle stay with the couple or does she go directly to Chima and Gnat? Nominating Russell and Jeff would solidify the women's alliance.
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-13-09, 11:14 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 6: Michele and the double fallout" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-13-09 AT 11:17 PM (EST)>I'm sorry, but I don't see >Russell with anyone but Jeff. If you're with Jeff, you have to be with Jordan also, don't you? >Under no circumstances does Michele nominate >Jeff, unless she suddenly loses >her mind. But Russell >certainly has to be in >the mix.
Chima and Gnat were doing the hard sell about a woman winning and Michelle was gobbling it up. I'm hoping it was only because Chima was HOH but who would you rather face in the F2, Chima or Jeff? >The stunner to me is that >Kevin has voted with Jeff/Jordan/Michele >two weeks in a row. > If not for his >vote, Jessie would still be >there. This means that >Russell can't be trusted by >Michele or Jordan. I'm not sure I follow: Can you explain how Kelvin's on-the-spot vote impacts Russell's trustworthyness? To me, the stunner was Russell's vote to keep Jesse but Jeff did nominate Gnat first. Maybe the guys were more comfortable keeping Jesse or really didn't care which one left. That would be dumb because Lydiot won't side with Gnat but would have sided with Jesse. ETA: Kelvin showed he had stopped floating when he asked Chima who should go up next during the HOH comp. Chima would have voted to keep Gnat so Kelvin voted to keep Gnat. He's part of the women's alliance!!
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08-14-09, 00:42 AM (EST)
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7. "Seeing is believing" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-14-09 AT 00:43 AM (EST)Since BB2, with Evil Dr. Will, playing this game well means being able to be friendly to everyone and then to move with your opportunities. Everyone remember Dr. Will & Mike Boogie stabbing their alliance in the back near the end of BBAS and aligning with Janelle for a little showmancing? So far, Michelle's game play has been exemplary. She behaves like a floater (Kevin), but she plans and votes with her alliance. This isn't Survivor. People don't get booted in linear order because the HoH can pass to the minority. Michele doesn't want anyone in the other alliance to target her if they win HoH. The question "who would you rather face in the F2" is impossible to plan for. If you keep Chima around because you think she'd be easier to beat, she might get to be HoH and can your a$$. So you really need to get the other side out ASAP. For Michele, that means that she needs to be tight with her J/J/M alliance until all of Gnat, Chima and Lydia are gone.
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08-14-09, 03:06 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 6: Michele and the double fallout" |
Worst.case.senario.
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08-14-09, 09:01 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Big Brother 11 Live Feeds Week 6: Michele and the double fallout" |
But, what they both don't know is that they both could be on their way to the jury house with Jessie. I think I could be more interested in those feeds. LOL
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08-14-09, 10:55 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Hee hee" |
LOL! I would love it if Lydia went to the house first so that Nat tries to get herself booted because she can't stand the idea of Lydia being with Jesse! (and if Nat goes first you know that Lydia will sacrifice herself, lol)
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Lorr 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-14-09, 11:26 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
I don't get the Jessie attraction - he is not good looking, he disrespects women and he is not intellegent.
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08-14-09, 11:42 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
And is it just me, but I think Jesse is gay. Not saying that as an insult, but he doesn't seem to be "into" women. All the talk about a showmance seems to come from the women hovering over him, and he doesn't reciprocate the attention or affection. He'll take a "hand out" from the girls, but not much else.
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08-14-09, 01:52 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
SOOOO agree on the Jessie being gay thing. I've said that to my wife since last season as well. As stated he just seems not to be into women at all. He is into himself more than anything.
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08-14-09, 03:28 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
Does that job application come with baby oil?
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08-14-09, 11:59 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
Un i think your confused with Russell. I can't recall when Jesse was disrespected to women. At least this season.
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Lorr 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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08-14-09, 04:38 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
using women to be at your beck and call, having thenm do your dirty work and fight your battles disrespects women. I grant you they allowed it (low self esteem) but that does not excuse him.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 12:09 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Lydia's strategy!" |
I think at this point, we have to start seriously questioning why Lydia went for hamster status in the first place. There are easier ways to make yourself into a quasi-national joke, and most of them pay better.
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08-14-09, 03:22 PM (EST)
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32. "Losing all respect for Chima..." |
From Jokers live feeds updates--just a few min ago:"Jeff walks in the RR to get a shirt and Chima goes, "I guess America likes voting for assholes. Its been proven time and time again." NT (1 min. ago) " ---then--- "Chima to Natalie in the RR "I can't believe that m'fer left his rosary in here. He's not even Catholic he's some extremist Muslim terrorist" Bitter, much, Chima?
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08-14-09, 03:29 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Losing all respect for Chima..." |
You beat me to it! She's awful. Just awful. And if Chima's grandmother wasn't exactly thrilled with her behavior before...
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 05:32 PM (EST)
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41. "Will America see..." |
Chima's rant? Or will BB suppress it, in the interest of making her appear less evil?Here's some of the dialogue, from another site: http://bbdish.blogspot.com/2009/08/friday-afternoon-before-comp.html Chima and Gnat in the Haves Room, as Lydia is in the bathroom: Chima: I can't believe that motherf-cker <Russell> going on about his rosary... He's not even Catholic... He's some f-cking extremist Muslim terrorist. Chima: By the way, Jeff was being a complete a-hole to you the past week... That's how I know he's a complete mysogenist. Natalie: I've already got my speech all ready. Chima: How bout you stop thinking about your eviction speech and start thinking about your nomination speech, for when you win HoH? Natalie: I've got all of them ready. Chima: I hope Michele remembers how much of an a-hole he is... and that he called her crazy over and over and over again. You know if I get one of my name tags, I'll go ahead and put it next to one of Jessie's.... Natalie: You know he's right there... He's waiting... Chima: I know! I'm just enjoying myself in the meantime... I think America loves voting for a-holes... It's been proven time and time again... It's kinda like when Bush won twice in a row. Natalie: You can hear them whispering... Chima: Oh, I know... She just called me an a--hole.. She just called me a motherf-cker... You know what, Jeff? It's all true. People just don't like to be called out on their sh-t. I had a dream that Russell's leaving this week, and Jeff's leaving next week. I hope it's more of a premonition... If it comes down to me n you, I'm letting you have it. Natalie: I gotta get through this weeek first. Chima: You will. And she probably will, as long as you don't.
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 07:30 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Will America see..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-14-09 AT 07:45 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-14-09 AT 07:34 PM (EST) Jeff and Russell were discussing last night that people in the DR (especially a couple of them, whose names I do not remember) seem to hate Chima, but then the feed moved from them (that'll teach them for talking about production!) , so I'm not sure that her edit will improve -- but I'll still be surprised if they show just how bitter she is. Today, Michele told Gnat that she was going to put Gnat up, but Gnat wasn't her real target. Gnat wanted to know if her target was Russell, Kevin or Lydia. Apparently Gnat's tiny brain couldn't grasp that it might be Chima. Then Michele told Chima that she and Gnat were the noms. Chima wanted to know why not Russell. Michele answered that she needed Russell's vote to not go home next week at the hands of the Bitter Trio. Chima started on about how Russell could win Evel ##### fashion (no, because Jeff isn't burdened with being America's Player the way Eric was). Blah blah blah. Meanwhile Lydia did something to earn the wrath of the producers....
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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08-14-09, 08:55 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Will America see..." |
I don't think she told Chima she was putting her up because Chima came away from the convo telling the witches that the other nom would be Kevin, Lydia or Russell. She did not fathom that the other nom would be her. Wonder when feeds will come back on? LOL. Scorched earth time?Plus, Michelle told Nat that Nat was not the target and that she (Michelle) needed someone else to go home and she had the votes to do it this week. POV will be more interesting than usual. If Nat wins, then she can take herself off but Lydia would probably go up because Michelle told Kev he wasn;t being nommed this week and Michelle made an F2 pact with Russell...and needs J/J to get there. So Chima still goes. If Chima wins POV, then Nat goes - yeah! The funny thing will be if Kev plays in the POV and wins again. Chima will want him to use it. LOL! That would mean that Lydia would go up! LOL again!
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 10:28 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Losing all respect for Chima..." |
Omarosa looks sane by comparison. Talk about playing into a stereotype.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 07:46 PM (EST)
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48. "Have/Have Not Competition" |
was apparently day by day this week, and they are all on slop for a day, it sounds like.Also they had a chance at 3 different luxuries, they won 2 of them, 1 of which was the grill! They also got the medium-sized table today. The Bitter 3 are planning are wearing some of Jessie's shirts for nominations.....
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 10:30 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Bad timing." |
If it were America's Choice between the grill and the Bitter Trio, the grill would win in a walk.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-14-09, 11:09 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Just wondering..." |
A day or two ago, Jeff was busted by Lydia drinking Gatorade while being a Have Not. As such, he was assessed an extra penalty day of being a Have Not Thursday night.........
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 00:55 AM (EST)
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61. "Right" |
Jeff wasn't allowed to eat until 9 o'clock today. He had planned to grill a steak on the new grill, because he's lost 20 pounds so far during the game and wanted a filling meal. But when 9 o'clock came, the house was in lockdown, and so he had to settle for eating leftover Chinese and leftover pizza (with Gnat and Lydiot watching him like hawks hoping that he'd start early and incur another penalty day).Michele came down about 25 minutes later, but they were still in lockdown. Finally, after eating two plates of Chinese and two leftover pieces of pizza, Jeff said he was full. Almost as if by design, BB announced that the lockdown was now over. When Kevin, Gnat, Lydiot and Michele went outside, they saw a giant miniature golf hole, with instructions to putt around the snail and hit the bowl placed behind it. No idea if this is the POV game.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 01:15 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: Right" |
It kinda has to be, unless they're going to have an extra contest this week.......
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 09:18 AM (EST)
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86. "Saw it coming (for once)." |
And sure enough, Lydia and Natalie had a discussion about the feasibility of stealing Michele's food.
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08-15-09, 02:19 AM (EST)
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64. "RE: Nominees are up SHOWTIME" |
Friday Night-Russel is grilling for J/J/M amd himself. Jeff can't eat. Not sure if his is mad/stomach or ? C/L/N and Kevin watching the girls practice for tomorrows veto comp. Some kind of puttputt (sorry-typo). There was some kind of incident with hot sauce and their belongings, because the group J/J/R was saying to bring their stuff up to the HOH room. Not sure what the feeds are showing since I don't have it. I just turned on the TV and this is what I am seeing and hearing.
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 00:59 AM (EST)
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62. "The leaderless groupies" |
Hoq important were Ronnie and Jessie to the cohesion of their groupies? Now that both of them are gone, the answer is obvious: critical. Without them, Lydiot, Gnat and Chimad have reverted to ... something subhuman.
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08-15-09, 06:16 AM (EST)
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66. "CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 06:19 AM (EST)Couldn't handle being on the block, I guess. Fishes between 2-3 am BB time. When they came back, Chima was gone. ETA: Oh, yeah. And it sounds like several producers, even Grodner herself, had to drag their arses out of bed at 2:30 am and drive to the BB house for a meeting. LOL HG's aren't really talking about it (when they do, it cuts to fishes). The four (J/J, Russ, Mich) are living it up in the kitchen. Someone mentioned "legal department" and they cut to fishes. Jeff said "And then there were seven." I think Gnat and Lydia are licking their wounds in the hottub.
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vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 06:32 AM (EST)
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67. "RE: CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
and by the (current) sounds of things, however she left also means that she's not on the Jury! They will have to have a replacement juror, and I get the feeling that Ronnie might be that one, since he has been out the least amount of time.......
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 07:06 AM (EST)
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70. "Thief in the night." |
Not to mention the strength to not call someone a terrorist and constantly accuse them of faking their beliefs -- because if Jokers is right, one of the last things she did on her way out was steal Russell's rosary.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 06:59 AM (EST)
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69. "So if you were wondering if it was all an act..." |
...I'd say your odds just went way down.The only person they can afford to twist back into the house (to keep the fake drama of week-in-an-hour intact) is Jessie: everyone else has had way too much exposure to the outside. Bringing anyone in for the jury is a risk, but this is a game like the WWE is a sport and ultimately, the producers won't care. So much for my calling her as potentially being the toughest in the house based on her real survival experience. If you can't handle a stupid twist on BB, don't go into the cage. (Any chances of it being more than that have pretty much hit zero.) And this should make Lydia happy: Michele will have to name a replacement nominee, and guess who's the only viable candidate to play non-pawn? I wish we had a play-by-play on what happened, but I'm guessing the feeds were blacked out for just about all of this -- and the last thing we can do is count on the Tuesday show. Plus Chima's access to the media may wind up at less than zero -- she's gone Nick: the producers won't give her any access to a public forum if they can possibly avoid it. In this case, they can. Searching a couple of sites -- she threw her microphone in the hot tub, sequestered herself in the laundry room...
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Snidget 43862 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 07:13 AM (EST)
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71. "RE: CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 07:47 AM (EST)I knew the crazy was strong with that one, but dang. I mean I figured with her background they made sure she wasn't PTSDing or any other major issues...oh wait. This is BB I'm thinking of, they cast for mentally ill. ET put the acronym in the right order
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08-15-09, 08:04 AM (EST)
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77. "RE: CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 08:04 AM (EST)Jeff was speculating this morning that she seemed bipolar. I don't think there's anything pathological going on. I think she just has a warped idea of what it means to be a Strong Woman. Of course, this could be compounded by her traumatic experience. She did make it clear when she told the HG's about the rape that she is NOT a victim, she is a survivor. The house itself is a major stressor. Past hampsters have said that every emotion is amplified. Chima's friend said that she is very suspicious of men thinking they are superior to her. But she may not have ever exploded IRL before -- it seemed to be a whole different Chima to Gramma. She also said she's on some meds that she's not supposed to have drinks with and that's why she got so drunk on the wine the night before last. As for mental illness, don't forget that Nicole from BB2 spent the last three weeks of the season almost thoroughly sedated - thanks to Will.
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 09:44 AM (EST)
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98. "PTSD" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 11:44 AM (EST)I'm with Snidget with regard to the possible PTSD and Chima. It's clear why production pre-recorded the twist eviction -- she really was capable of being that crazy. When she was sitting on top of the dryer not moving last night around 11 BBT, BB told her to get a replacement mike. Kevin finally got it for her, and her first words into it were an obscene message for the producers. But they didn't show us what happened to the original mike. She was in the bathroom around 10:45 BBT, just before going outside, so that must have been when she dunked her mike, and it just took until 1:45 or so to make sure that Legal and the producers approved her immediate removal. Edited to add: Apparently the mike throwing was on camera 2 of the live feed but not on BBAD. Boo! Edited again to add: Nope, it was on BBAD; I just didn't grasp what was happening. Little did I know it would be a game-changing event by breaking up the Widows Godderz.
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LilNik8 195 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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08-15-09, 09:34 AM (EST)
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95. "RE: CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
>Jeff was speculating this morning that >she seemed bipolar. UGH! Forgive my annoyance at the psychologically uneducated that think that someone who is affectively unstable automatically = bipolar disorder. Too many self diagnoses w/o knowing anything about psychology going on there.If Chima's anything, she has features of Borderline Personality Disorder, which can manifest itself due to trauma. Like others said though, it's probably more PTSD. Y'all said they screen them for psychological disorders? Are you sure? Because Jordan is d*mn near MR, Lydia has Dependent Personality Disorder, and Ronnie is Borderline...Not a very good screening if you ask me. Resident Psychology Graduate Student OUT.... ~Brought to you by: PhoenixMons~
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AyaK 10083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 10:00 AM (EST)
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104. "RE: CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
They screen for personality types that are likely to turn violent, ever since the knife incident. But I think BPD would actually be something that the producers would accept, because it increases the drama in the house. Look at all the attention that Ronnie and Chima have drawn from viewers for their antics.
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Starshine 4934 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 10:57 AM (EST)
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113. "PSTD" |
I was trying to lighten the mood.However whilst it would be quite understandable if Chima has PSTD, I would have hoped that she would have had a lot of counselling afterwards, although I know that doesn't help everyone. I would also have hoped that BB were aware of what had happened to her and would have called in someone to talk with her when she started to get unhinged. I'm sure that she signed a legal waiver with them, but I am also sure that there is something in the contract about not letting her come to harm, if they aren't offering her some damned good support now then they may be in trouble later.
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Snidget 43862 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 11:09 AM (EST)
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115. "RE: PSTD" |
Well if I can have a brief moment to unlighten the mood.Given the recent suicides by a couple of reality TV show peeps I think there is reason to suspect people may not be screened as well as they should and may not get as much counseling as they really need afterward. As was mentioned elsewhere there was one season with slop where they didn't really bother to make sure it was peanut free or wouldn't screw over someone with known issues with blood sugar. I know they have to take a certain amount of care of people, but it seems like it may be the bare minimum to cover their butts. I believe when it has been talked about most shows do have therapists on hand both for during the show and for at least one I got booted session. I don't know how much of that is a "do whatever you have to so they stay or don't sue us" vs good care of the people. I can imagine there is some pressure to make sure the show goes OK on the people providing mental health care to the participants. All that being said, I can see why they cast her. The tragic victim rises to the occasion and triumphs over the men who would keep her down story line had to have them rubbing their hands in glee if she could have pulled that off. I also believe she is smart enough and probably had enough post trauma counseling that she'd know what to say to get on the show if that is what she wanted. After all I got the feeling that being a bit strong-headed get what I want is a trait she's had a long time and if you know the right answers it shouldn't be that hard to pass a superficial psyche evaluation. I do suspect Chima underestimated the pressure of being on the show and how things might effect her, and if the producers got a whiff of she'll be all drama if things don't go her way they might have overlooked a few warning signs she might be more drama than they want. In any case, I hope she gets any and all therapy she wants/needs after this and can have a sense of perspective and humor about herself.
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08-15-09, 07:21 AM (EST)
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72. "Here's what "may have" happened" |
A poster on Jokers who appears to be trusted and who has an "in" - Ziroc is the name - posted during BBAD that "Be warned, at 3am the feeds will be down for a good while." He was right. (I guess this means the times I gave in my post above are wrong -- it's that pesquey EST vs. PST conundrum).So anyway, dude was right. And then, a short time ago, he posted the following information (reminder - everything in italics is a post from Jokers by Ziroc): Ok... I gotta share this.. Here's "What may have" happened. This could have 'happened'.. ---- Mike: Hey Guys, can you all come into the Livingroom please? We need to have a house meeting.
.... ... they speak .... .... AG: You will be paying for the mic pack Chima, this will come out your Stipend. Chima: You know what? ***** this *****. I'm outta here. love you, nat--you too Lydia. *throws something* (her mic?) She presses the diary room button, it doesn't go green, she tries to pull the door open (EVERYONE is in the living room sitting down btw) and Chima says "don't ***** with me, open this damn door. NOW!" Then Nat and Lydia want to leave with her, but production asks them to remain a moment.. AG: Everyone, PLEASE calm down! Lydia gets up and tries to open the DR door, bangs on it, crying. Chima was SCREAMING at AG! The entire control room was told to record everything in case something happened. Security may have been there too. Result? 1.Chima is the first BB USA contestant to ever QUIT. 2.For the first time ever. No eviction week. (since BB2?) 3.America will be voting as the seventh vote at jury. 4.Chima has forfeited ALL stipend, and will not be at the Finale night. 5.They will be showing this on TV Tuesday. (Probably edited to hell--removing all the good stuff)
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 07:47 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 07:54 AM (EST)Any word on what Chima's grandmother thinks? Okay. Assuming this is accurate (which feels halfway safe for the moment), the producers have decided to preserve the faux drama of week-in-an-hour for the next go-round: a single quit can keep them on schedule. Chima's contract presumably says 'no media conversations without our supervision or we take your children', but she may be at the point where she doesn't care. ('No rules apply to me' has been in effect for a while now.) She may seek out any attention she can get while wrapped in the secure delusion which says a quitter is no longer under contract. Actually, someone check the new registrant list... Keeping her out of the finale and jury really puts her in Nick's status: she's a non-hamster. It wouldn't surprise me to see her picture edited out of the opening credits. America has voted on the jury once before this, acting through Eric. The only question here is who gets to turn America's key. (We could ask how rigged that vote will be, but why ask something we already know the answer to?) Lydia and Natalie could destroy the show here & now: all they have to do is walk out behind her -- and it looks like they gave it no some thought for a few seconds. If that idea recurs, the producers are in major trouble as far as the timeline goes: bring up the fall schedule early, because we just lost a lot of cage time. Should either one think of that, today is going to make the last few hours look like a thumb wrestling match. The first explosion may be over, but I think it's going to take the rest of the week for the fallout to finish settling. Minimum.
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08-15-09, 07:55 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
Watch them use this as an excuse to re-re-introduce Mr. s-PEC-tacular to the house.
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08-15-09, 08:04 AM (EST)
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79. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
Gag me with a steroid filled syringe.
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08-15-09, 08:04 AM (EST)
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78. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
The Joker's rumor mill seems to be settling on this scenario, and I've filled in a few things of how I think they will time it.1) Chima's leaving basically overthrows Michele ala a Coup d'etat. 2) No eviction this week (so I'd guess Sunday's show goes through the post-HOH stuff (get the room, food comp) and nominations. We may see the nominations a little early rather than right at the end of the show with some preview of things to come to bump the ratings for Tues night. 3) Tues night spends most of the show on the leaving of Chima and the aftermath reactions of the hamsters. Highly edited to cover as much of BB's legal azz they have to. Tease the week in an hour as they still need a double elimination week to stay on schedule. 4) Thursday night everyone plays HOH (the if your noms are overthrown you get to play rule that they made for Chima--not sure if they would have done that for previous use of the CDE) they have noms, POV, Eviction and set up for a endurance HOH. I agree that gNat or Lydiot quitting or otherwise being yanked out of the house would really screw up the schedule. I assume production will convince them that better to be evicted legitimately soon and get to spend time with Jessie rather than get sent to exile land and they'll have to track Jessie down themselves if they want to stalk him after the wrap party. I doubt they'd toss Ronnie or one of the previous hamsters in the jury house to replace Chima, as that could have one juror with too much outside knowledge (unless they've been sequestering them just in case, but then they'd have to probably pay them). I think an "America's Vote" for the missing juror would work. Heck, make it a contest to be the person casting America's vote and you have to text in something or other to enter and that ups the texting revenue CBS gets (they do get a cut of all the "99 cents per text extra fee" thing right? I'm sure there are plenty of BB fans who would love to be brought on stage at the finale to put the key in the box for us.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 08:26 AM (EST)
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81. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
What makes you think Marjealous didn't set this up on purpose?
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08-15-09, 11:34 AM (EST)
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119. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
Yeah, she's screwed herself out of a lot of post BB appearance work...and M knows that it pays to be a memorable hamster, so too bad she couldn't see the big picture and tough it out.
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08-15-09, 09:16 AM (EST)
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85. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
I highly doubt that Nat would quit because it seems she needs the $ from the stipend.I doubt Lydia would quit because she wants time with Jesse. Kevin's not going to quit over Chima. And R/M/J/J aren't going to quit....so the game can just resume on schedule. Take out one double elim and insert one Chima DOR. Drama replaces drama. And America voting for the winner? Blame Chima, lol. I wonder what their psychs have to say about this because Chima had to have been screened to be on the show and they all knew about her traumatic experience. I wondered how she would do in the BB pressure cooker. Now we know. Her expectations about a game were really skewed.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 09:20 AM (EST)
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88. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
The question of physical/mental medical screenings arose with the double ambulance emergency a couple of seasons back, and I think we just got the same answer for the second time: 'What screenings?'
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08-15-09, 09:24 AM (EST)
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90. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
I didn't watch that season...did someone break down or was it a physical thing?
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08-15-09, 09:23 AM (EST)
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89. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
They could turn the POV comp into a luxury comp...
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08-15-09, 09:34 AM (EST)
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94. "RE: Here's what "may have" happened" |
Since Jeff using the CDE seems to be the trigger for the Ultimate Chima Bomb, what about if the Final 2 happens to end up being Jeff vs. Russell? That way, no matter which way the America Vote is replacing Chima's vote, it's for one of her mortal enemies?
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08-15-09, 12:41 PM (EST)
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136. "RE: CHIMA IS GONE! D.U.N." |
There's a vid on youtube showing Braden's reaction to Jesse's getting Coup D'Etat'd. It shows him watching the show and then celebrating when Jesse is booted.Wonder if he'll put one out with the Chima thing. Recall, here's some of what he said in his exit interview with E: "Chima's polluted in the mind..." "She's a gold digger..." "Russell...very immature" "People who are loudmouths...it comes back to them tenfold" (LOL!) Would pick Casey and Jeff for F2. "Jeff is very strong and stronger than/could take out any of the muscle heads." "I'm pretty well associated with the world..." (Huh?) Also wonder if Casey, Laura and Ronnie weigh in on this. It's a way to extend the 15 min of fame...
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 09:13 AM (EST)
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84. "The Chima Syndrome" |
Dear AyaK,Re: your question of whether Chima's meltdown rants would be shown. Yes. Sincerely, the rats in the walls.
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08-15-09, 10:02 AM (EST)
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105. "RE: The Chima Syndrome" |
She didn't really leave them a choice, did she?
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 10:38 AM (EST)
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111. "RE: The Chima Syndrome" |
Does anyone have the main number for Endemol? I think Frisky just submitted her job application.
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08-15-09, 10:45 AM (EST)
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112. "RE: The Chima Syndrome" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 11:16 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 10:50 AM (EST) http://www.endemolusa.tv/ They run it with flash so you don't get the direct link each time. You can fill out the online form or they have an address and contact phone number. I assume the non scripted/reality genre would be the appropriate part of the company to apply to. ETA
(and replace with a smaller version, I think it made the thread too wide)
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08-15-09, 11:30 AM (EST)
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118. "RE: An even more cruel approach" |
Ha! The irony about the destruction of property...last night (I think it was last night) she joked that Russell is a terrorist with a paper airplane and she's the twin towers.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 11:56 AM (EST)
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125. "RE: An even more cruel approach" |
How did Chima add up the Russell=terrorist equation anyway? I missed the start of that.
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08-15-09, 12:04 PM (EST)
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127. "RE: An even more cruel approach" |
Russell is of Lebanese heritage, therefore he's from the Middle East, therefore he must be a terrorist.{/Chima logic}
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08-15-09, 12:38 PM (EST)
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135. "RE: Is it a real rosary" |
I don't know if the feeds got a good shot of it.I know it is wiki, but they usually aren't that wrong and you can check the footnotes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Lebanon "But official records confirm that in 1926 when the state of Lebanon was officially announced and recognised by the allies the Christians formed 84% of the population. So it isn't unfathomable to think he's Christian The Maronite Church, a church in communion with the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest and politically most active and influential denomination of Lebanon's Christians Probably easier to say Catholic than anything else as that some lesser known sect. I do remember learning in grade school that Lebanon had a lot of Christians for being in the Middle East. We didn't have prayer in school then but they hadn't removed all religious words from the text books. However I could believe lots of people assume everyone who is from the Middle Ease is a Muslim and all Muslims must be terrorists. It really isn't that uncommon of a belief. Heck a lot of people who got attacked after 9/11 for being "one of them" were Sikhs which aren't even Arabs and definitely are NOT Muslim. But they do wear turbans, so they are "other" and thus must be the same as the bad guys.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 11:54 AM (EST)
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124. "RE: An even more cruel approach" |
That would be the 'One more down: no more questions' approach. I just thought it was a lot harder to justify with the broadcast viewership after this long on the air than it was with Nick and his one-episode stay. Y'know -- people actually have some vague idea who Chima is. Somebody would want details, and it has to get a little annoying when you keep repeating 'No' for a whole five minutes. And setting up the audio loop? Means less time for skimming money off the text votes.
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08-15-09, 12:11 PM (EST)
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129. "RE: An even more cruel approach" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 12:14 PM (EST)I dunno, Estee. I think Julie could be pre-programmed for that audio loop. It wouldn't be the first time. You know, that might be the thing. Nick's departure could not be spoken of because he slandered the good name of Chenbot. The circumstances weren't shown, of course, to protect Chenbot. Look at how she sliced and diced Braden in his interview after Chima told the audience what he said about her? Chima did nothing but hurt herself, so there's really nothing to hide and nobody to protect. Certainly not Chima herself, because she's just a HG and they don't protect HG's. (Well, except the chosen ones.) I think they'll roast her Sunday night. (Edited to add the point of my post.)
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 12:19 PM (EST)
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130. "RE: An even more cruel approach" |
But if they go too far into the roast, we'll get a flood of people treating it as 'How dare they abuse the survivor/victim!' (And we may get one or two no matter what happens.) They do have a line to walk here -- if they care about public reaction. They might not.
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08-15-09, 12:28 PM (EST)
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133. "Another advantage of" |
... the ten second nod then movin' on approach.
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08-15-09, 11:40 AM (EST)
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120. "RE: Can still have double eviction" |
They have to explain Chima's being gone.
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08-15-09, 12:36 PM (EST)
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134. "RE: Can still have double eviction" |
They spent some time showing Ollie's rant last year...so I think they'll show Chima's behavior. Especially where she has to get bleeped bleeped bleeped for telling production they should "go -bleep- a -bleep-".
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 11:57 AM (EST)
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126. "RE: Can still have double eviction" |
No -- they don't. They'll have a little more trouble from the viewership if they don't, but they have no obligation to show or explain anything they don't feel like distorting. 'Who's Chima?' is on the table until swept under it.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 12:20 PM (EST)
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131. "The Osten Scale." |
So where do we rank Chima on the all-time list of reality quitters? I think she needs at least a few bonus points for being the first to take hostages. 'Get me a producer or no one sees the washing machine again!'
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08-15-09, 01:32 PM (EST)
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138. "My comments on the whole thing" |
Well, like just about everyone else, I found out about Chima's leaving the show. Here's my two cents on it:Chima's mentally ill. That's obvious. She may have Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, thanks to being raped and nearly killed by a serial killer. That would traumatize anyone so I wouldn't be surprised if she had it. She may also have Borderline Personality Disorder, although I'm not sure if she had it before the rape or if the rape triggered that as well. This may have given her some issues with men (although Jessie seems to have been an exception). But the key is that she was in the Big Brother house. She may have been able to handle stuff in the real world, but inside that house, as time passed, she began to succumb to her inner demons. In the end, she couldn't take it anymore. She was weak mentally and that may be a cause for pity -- but at the same time, she behaved so badly that most of the pity I feel is diluted. I see an induction into the Reality TV Hall of Shame on Reality News Online in her future.
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Estee 55194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-15-09, 03:32 PM (EST)
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148. "RE: The beginning of the end." |
And if anyone knows crazed vengeful behavior, it's Chelsia.
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08-15-09, 05:31 PM (EST)
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156. "RE: The beginning of the end." |
Turns out it's near the beginning of the Flashback at 10pm. I was wondering what in the world that first Natalie and then Lydia was trying to fish out of the hot tub that was causing them so much problems..... a mic battery pack definitely would be harder to get out than a golf ball......
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08-15-09, 03:16 PM (EST)
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147. "RE: Confused hamsters." |
Very confused female hamsters:The behaviour of Chima, Nat and Lydia after Jessie's eviction just shows how much of a puppet master Jessie was over these three girls. They were not playing the game of Big Brother going for the money - they were playing the Jessie Game (nat and lydia) and the Control Game (Chima). Chima kept saying she wanted a female to win and they needed to get all the males out of the house. Nat and Lydia agreed and possibly Michele. If this was their strategy at some point they were going to have to turn on Jessie. If they were playing the game, they would have realized Jeff just got Jessie out for them and their hands were clean and maintained their friendship with him and secured his vote for one of them. They than could than pick off Russell (aligning with Jeff temporarily), than Jeff and than Kevin. BUT NO THESE CHILDISH LITTLE GIRLS WENT ON THIS SELF DESTRUCT RAMPAGE, Chima because someone told her NO and Nat and Lydia because they thought more of Jessie than they did winning the money.... POOR CHOICES.....
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08-15-09, 02:55 PM (EST)
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146. "There's a ? about Chima's status..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 03:38 PM (EST)Chima's picture has not "gone grey" yet. It's still in color. And BB got them up instead of letting them snooze...POV still happening today? Or will it turn into a lux comp? ETA: No ? now--here's an article from EW that confirms Chima's outtathere, as in kicked off: http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/08/15/big-brother-contestant-chima-kicked-off-the-show/ "CBS confirmed today that Big Brother 11 contestant Chima, the freelance journalist from West Hollywood, was booted off the show this morning. Chima’s surprise departure capped off a particularly volatile 24 hours in the Big Brother house...."
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08-15-09, 03:45 PM (EST)
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149. "Something's up..." |
Michelle just came out of the DR holding a laminated piece of paper and -- insta-fish. Either they're about to get an Official Producer Word (or three), or we're proceeding with the competition come hell, high water, or Amber.
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08-15-09, 04:31 PM (EST)
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152. "PGA announcement" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-09 AT 04:33 PM (EST)Sounds like Chima's blow up will play on Sunday, that may be why they are going to go ahead and do the "week in a day" second nom over the course of a few days. They'd need something for Tuesday. Since the Chima thing is getting some press they may have decided better to show it quick so they get people while they are still curious. ETA link to jokers that mentions this link
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08-15-09, 04:49 PM (EST)
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154. "They smell like failure" |
Natalie will be playing for HoH while wearing some of Jessie's clothing. (Considering the size difference between the two, this would be a perfect time for the producers to pull out something involving high dexterity and coordination.)
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