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"Which CT member does Janie take IF..."
MarkP 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-04-06, 11:26 AM (EST)
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"Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
Erika goes this week (which looks like a strong possibility) and Janie wins the final HOH (which is a realistic possibility)? Considering what we hear on the feeds there is no doubt whatsover Janie realizes that she has a much better chance to win against Boogie than Will. If this scenerio occurs, is is possible that Janie picks Boogie? Does anyone believe that could happen? If Janie takes Boogie she takes a huge step in wiping the slate clean with all those who have bashed her game play recently (myself on the top of that list). If she takes Will, even the diehard LOJ will be hard pressed to defend her most important decision in the show. Based on her recent conversations with Erika you would think the odds are very strong she takes Boogie, but based on her relationship with Will I would say the odds are 60/40 she takes Will (her latest conversation with Erika led me to change the odds from like 80/20 to 60/40). What does everyone think - could she possibly take Boogie?
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bdemoney 745 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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09-04-06, 12:08 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: I hope she wakes up" |
If Janelle has an ounce of strategic sense left in her (which may be doubtful) she will take Boogie with her to the finals.There is absolutely NO DOUBT that she has a MUCH better chance of winning against Boogie than Will. Boogie is very unlikeable and arguably it can be said that he rode Will's coattails as much as Janelle did. Without winning nearly the amount of comps. as Janie did. Whereas, Will is still well-liked by most on the jury and has played an overall better game than Janelle. Even without winning HOH once he has single-handly orchestrated everyones removal from the house. Even having the ablity to convince the HOH who they should nominate that week, which is quite a gift. Especially when YOU are the one they SHOULD be targeting. In my opinion, if Janelle wins the final HOH and picks Will over Boogie she will have just made the gravest error in reality show history.....perhaps topping when Colby brought Tina to the end with him or when Marcellas chose not to use the Golden Veto on himself.
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Buggy 5089 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-04-06, 01:05 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: I hope she wakes up" |
if Janelle wins the final HOH and picks Will over Boogie she will have just made the gravest error in reality show history.....Yes, she would have, unless she wins. And I know that many think that doubtful, but it is still a possibility, we'll have to see how it turns out.
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MarkP 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-04-06, 02:06 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: I hope she wakes up" |
I think it is pretty clear to us that taking Boogie is the better move, but what I am trying to find out is who everyone thinks Janie will actually take if this situation occurs? I still think she takes Will, but like I said I'm 60/40 on that. Does she take Will or Boogie? I would especially like to know who the Janie supporters think she will take.
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yamihooked 169 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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09-04-06, 03:17 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: I hope she wakes up" |
But if she takes Will, then Mike, Dani, and Erika may still vote for Will. It's largely a wash on three votes.
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bdemoney 745 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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09-04-06, 04:19 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
>I'm pretty certain she will take Will and I say this for 2 reasons - First, he will have some days to work on her to >persuade her that he is the right choice over Boogie, for all sorts of reasons that will seem crazy to us out here but will >make sense to her in there. She has always drunk the kool-aid he has served in the past. > >Second, she really does like him and given the choice between >the two, would probably rather spend a few days alone in the Big Brother house with Will than Boogie. She has been pretty short sighted at other times and may not look beyond those >few days when making her decision. I agree with your reasoning 100% Bob. I totally think Will can and will convince her to take him to the final two. Especially because of reason number two. I think Janelle would much rather spend her final days with Will alone than with Boogie. But if she does this, Will will win... Dani said she would vote for the better player and I think James will as well. Since we know they both think Janelle only wins things from cheating (which isn't true, but seems to be their perception) and they both realize that Will has been pulling all the strings in the house, Will will get their vote. Mike and Erika will also vote for Will, which would make him the winner. I guess there is a slight chance that Dani and James may think Janie was the better player which leaves a remote chance she might actually win against Will (as Buggy stated earlier) but I highly doubt it. Will will manipulate the jury just as he did in the house. Whereas Boogie would lose to Janelle in a jury vote. He does not have Will's persuasive qualities and is not nearly as likable. So I am almost convinced Janelle would win against him. He is not seen as the puppet master, Will is, even to the houseguests who have not seen the tapes already. That's why when she picks Will it will be the worst decision she's ever made. So unless she finally puts the kool-aid down and starts thinking with a clear head, she will come in second to Will.
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pumpkinqueen 220 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-04-06, 02:43 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
i don't know. i think Janie is caught between a rock and a hard place. if she takes Boogie, then Will has time in sequester--i think--to talk up Boogie and trash Janelle. if she takes Will, i don't think Boogie will be able to change any votes, but i don't think he would have to do much because Will has played a very good game.i'm not sure how much time Will would have in sequester because i'm not sure about the schedule, but he can work pretty fast. plus, he has plenty of ammo based on all the trash talking the HGs did while they were in the house--about how Janie cheated and they re-did comps so she would win and all that. i have no idea how anyone could "talk up" Boogie, but if anyone can do it Will will. i'm going to hold out hope for Janie--because i'm stubborn like that--but i think taking Erika would be the best option. if it is a Will/Janie final 2, then it comes down to whether the jurors want to reward Janie's comp domination or Will's brilliant manipulation. Fembots by Tribe: L.O.J., One for all, all for Janelle!i obviously love Janie and can't stand Boogie, which probably fracks up my reasoning.
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JoshInSGV 737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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09-04-06, 06:31 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
If you end up in third place, I believe you only spend a few days in sequester, less then a week. When Janelle went out third last year, I think she only spent two or three days in Napa before the live finale. A couple of days may be more than what Will needs to work on the jury. But, I'm also sure that the jury has already been comparing notes and perhaps Will would be stepping in too late to manipulate anyone. I think Janelle has painted herself into a corner. No matter who gets evicted this week, she's the third wheel. Whether Will or Erika survive this week, they will not take Janelle to the Final 2 if they win the final HOH. That means that Janelle has to win the last HOH, if she wants to make it to finals. She should really take Erika along with her, but Erika would take Boogie to Final 2. And Erika is a strong competitor for endurance competitions. If she keeps Will, he's gonna throw the final HOH because he would feel certain that no matter who wins, he'll be taken to the finals. The worst thing Janelle can do is take Will to the finals. It would be equivalent to Ivette's blunder of taking Maggot to the Finals last year. If Erika gets evicted, which most likely she will, Janelle needs to take Boogie if she expects to have any opportunity at taking the money.
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Undertow12345 376 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-04-06, 05:40 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
I have a question..which is Erika going to try and get janie to put down will instead of her? I mean then our question is....will janey take E and win? Did I miss something or when is Erika going to make her move and really lay it on the line with janelle about all the stuff Will has said about her? Is she waiting for the live show so Will cannot do his hypnotizing routine on her before she votes? She had better.
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MarkP 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-04-06, 06:11 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
Ok - only a few actual solid votes and all point towards Janelle taking Will. I'm surprised that with so many people believing that Janie is playing a good strategic game that nobody thinks that she would take Boogie. Perhaps the polls will have a late surge in favor of Boogie. Lets hear from the voters.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-04-06, 07:06 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
I know I posted this elsewhere, but since there is a new thread about it, here is what I saw yesterday...Erika told Boogie that she told Jani that she could not beat Will at final 2. According to Erika (since I didn't see the actual conversation) Jani said that she would take Boogie over Will if she wins the final HOH because she isn't stupid. Later, Boogie had a convo with Will and Jani, making sure it was clear to Janelle that CT would take each other to the end, and not Jani. After Boogie left, Will told Jani that if she got to choose, that it might be in her best interest to take Boogie over him to the finals. He went on to tell her that she should do what is best for her personally. Was she lying to Erika? I have no idea. I'm not even positive that Erika wasn't making the whole thing up, but you could check Jokers or Clubhouse for the conversation transcript.
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MarkP 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-04-06, 09:10 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
LAST EDITED ON 09-05-06 AT 01:09 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 09-04-06 AT 09:22 PM (EST) My odds just changed to 80/20 she takes Will. Will and Janie are lying there talking about why she didn't get rid oh him earlier and he said "Because you were starting to get a crush on me right"...her response "Yea - I wouldn't want to be here if you weren't here.". She seems VERY sincere. Update - Make the 90/10 she takes Will. Will has this great move now that as they are both lying in bed in leans over to whisper something to her so that the Internet can't hear it. Who knows what he is saying, but the physical act of his mouth in her ear is going to be something she remembers. He's done that several times in the last 15 minutes and her smile just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Update - make that 50/50 after Janelle's conversation last night with Erika. As much as I love Will, I am still fond of Janie and if she boots him tonight it would be a moment to remember.
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fedcamper 142 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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09-05-06, 03:23 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Which CT member does Janie take IF..." |
She should take Erica, she'l probably take Will, but is that such a bad move? No one is commenting on the "Survivor" effect- namely, everyone hates to let anyone win twice, even someone as beloved and deserving as Ethan. So, that might be enough in the end to beat Will.
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