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michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 09-24-23, 01:46 PM (EST) "New Season = New Format" Form years, fans have been clamoring for 90 minutes episodes and this is going to happen this season. Was fan satisfaction the #1 consideration for SeeBS? Of course not. We aren't going to be seeing expanded rerwards that take the winners ion nice excursions no we willo only be getting some more of the complaining in camp because the ONLY reason for the expanded format is the STRIKE by writers and actors.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: New Season = New Format Aruba 09-27-23 1  RE: New Season = New Format sj007 09-27-23 2  New Season - New Format - Worse Pla... Aruba 09-28-23 3    RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... michel2 09-28-23 4        RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... Aruba 09-29-23 5            RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... michel2 09-29-23 6                RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... Aruba 09-30-23 7                    RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... michel2 09-30-23 8                        RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... sj007 10-02-23 9                            RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... michel2 10-02-23 10                            RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... Aruba 10-03-23 12                                RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... michel2 10-03-23 14                        RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... Aruba 10-03-23 11                            RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... michel2 10-03-23 13                                RE: New Season - New Format - Worse... Aruba 10-06-23 15

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Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 09-27-23, 04:44 AM (EST) 1. "RE: New Season = New Format" The timeline certainly supports your theory since the decision to air 90-minute episodes was the same month the writers walked out—May. A theory that will be solidified should Survivor go back to its 60-minute episodes for future seasons now that both sides have reached an agreement this week. Enjoy tonight’s premier!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 09-27-23, 08:00 PM (EST) 2. "RE: New Season = New Format" Having longer episodes isn't gonna make a difference. I've lowered my expectations a long time ago. As long as the format stays the same with a shorter 26 day stay and an overabundance of idols and advantages, it's gonna be another shitty season. I expect more boring players also. Same lower expectations with Amazing Race as well.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 09-28-23, 05:36 PM (EST) 3. "New Season - New Format - Worse Players" So, I don’t rack my brain turning back the pages of time, I’m just going to say right here and now, this was arguably the worst premier ever for Survivor. Production should be embarrassed...Yes, the same Production some claim “casting” is the “best department.” For starters, I presume a major part of the screening was to select those able to cry on cue like little sissies. LuLuLosers will probably drown in their own teardrops before any tribal switch takes place. We may as well appropriately kick off the bashing with Brandon (who made Cirie Fields, Sandra, and last season’s Carolyn all look like Olympic hopefuls.) The dude can’t even blame food/water deprivation for the opening challenge debacle. This is ALL on Production! Listen, I’m not suggesting applicants be subjected to an NFL combine or bootcamp basic training, but REALLY...at least SOMETHING should be done to weed out the weak and pathetically inept. As it is now, this shameful loser can’t even seek refuge on the “Sandra Sit-out Bench.” And how the hell did Emily even get selected as a finalist for Season 45...never mind make the final cut!! Calling out Bruce during introductions has got to be among (if not THE) biggest blunder in season premier history. And she continued to compound her gameplay idiocy throughout the painful 90-minute episode. It sure didn’t take her long to target Caleb with the cowardly Anti-Darwin Syndrome scheme. The only reason either of these casting debacles survived Day Three is because Hannah essentially walked out without any parchment votes read. Once again, this is on Production and its “stellar” casting. * snort * And spare me the meager attempt at self-preservation, “It’s easier on the couch...if you don’t think so, come out here and see for yourself...Yadda...Yadda...Yadda...Blah...Blah...Blah...” For the record, I would LOVE to, but that’s not going to happen if CBS Production refuses to address its age discrimination. In Hannah’s profile, I read she recently struggled with sobriety. Marvelous, I guess (thanks to Carloyn) every season will now have a token “former addict?” Geez Louise, Survivor now has more “tokens” than the NYC Subway...or maybe as many as lawyers this season. Speaking of lawyers, I suppose “Professional Courtesy" no longer exists among attorneys when listening to the black woman attorney (can’t remember her name) rip Jake for honestly disclosing his profession. It should serve as little surprise a castaway gets criticized for NOT being a lying sack of sh!t. How horrible is this cast? An hourglass was used to make it official both loser tribes were unable to take advantage of a “second chance” returning to their respective tribes empty-handed. Despite this ineptness, one would think Red and Blue (which now constitutes over two-thirds of the cast) will both be able to sleighride the first week of the season thanks to the stupid 3-tribe format I hate. Another pet peeve of mine was magnified when I thought we’d all be witness to a group orgy upon Jeff revealing the tribe immunity figurine which IMO is one of the lamest looking immunity trophies to date. We’ll, no doubt, be subjected to that nauseating embellishment all season long. My favorite moment of the episode was when Austin found only a CLUE to the hidden II. At least to possess the II, he’ll have to work a little harder toward attaining one, unlike previous recent seasons when players were darn near tripping over idols. Heck, Austin even said himself he was not really trying to actively look for an idol when he stumbled upon the clue. The only other time I smiled was when that skinny chick (well, mostly skinny) from the Red Team was gloating over her tribe saying we have the “brawn and brains” as she was spilling out from her shirt. Actually, they have brawn, brains, and boobies. Whether they’re real or fake is yet to be seen until weight loss begins to take effect. Considering Casting’s fixation with plastic boobies, it’s a good to better chance it’ll be the latter. I know there’s plenty more to bash about, but this is what I’ll post for now.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 09-28-23, 06:18 PM (EST) 4. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" Did you see anything new last night? Did you see anything interesting about Fiji? Was there any beautiful animal imagery? Thematic songs to accompany the journey of certain players? I'm sure the answer to that is a resounding no so it still makes production the weak link in the whole thing. With that being said, I agree with you that this cast is HORRIBLE. Like everything else, it has gone steadily downhill ever since Burnett decided to remove himslef from production and left it to Jiffy. This is what I posted in the East Coast thread: I was going to make a post about Emily being the absolute worst player ever (from her initial useless confrontation with Bruce who wasn't even on her tribe to her direct attack on Caleb and the other woman of the tribe but then Hanna blows her out of the water by saying she'd rather watch than play. WHAT ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO APPLIED AND DIDN'T MAKE IT, YOU DUMB@SS?!?! So we have the three worst players ever on the well-named Lululooser Tribe. In a strange way, I bet the winner comes from this tribe. I'll add that Brandon is my top pick right now just so that Probe can wet himself on another incredible come back. If Brandon does win then that will be an extremely solid argument for this show being rigged.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 09-29-23, 05:35 AM (EST) 5. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" For quite a few years and over 10 seasons the shows have been shot in the same Fiji, so I’ve stopped expecting anything new about the island. I suspect some viewers get all “warm & fuzzy” over the journey and the evolution of players throughout the season, but I will always be steadfast in my belief that a vast majority of fans thirst for the competition aspect of Survivor. This is where casting comes into play—something Production has failed miserably with. With the horrible job Production does with casting, I too feel very bad for the thousands of far better prospects who were never given the opportunity of a lifetime. If any apologies are given, Production needs to go to the front of that line. Hard to imagine LuLuLosers will win next week’s IC making either Brandon or Emily expendable. If the one not booted can somehow make tribal switch (much like I assessed last season with Carolyn) that castaway will have an excellent chance to advance due largely to the sheer ineptitude. But (as I also stated with Carolyn) even if one may be able to cakewalk to the endgame, NO WAY a majority of the jury will crown either the sole survivor. If the inevitable does occur and LuLuLoser loses the next IC, I believe the remaining women will band together to ensure the first two players voted out are NOT female. An approach they will have little problem getting Caleb onboard with squashing one of your conspiracy theories...one can only hope!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 09-29-23, 11:43 PM (EST) 6. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" But even the challenges have become boringly formulaic. Always the «sweat vs Savvy» to start then an interminable succession of «run to retrive bags and do a puzzle» or «Stand on a beam and balance something» Nothing new and, even worse, nothing of the old staples like the «answer these questions about your tribe mates» or «Guess the items in each other's bags». I'd love to have them use a compass to find their way in the jungle and the first tribe to get there wins. I'd love to aee them hide players in the jungle and the others look for them as if on a rescue mission, etc.. All the fun ones before they hired that props builder and they've gone all bigger is better. What I regret even more than this casting of «The Price is Right» type constertants is that all of the editing themes, animal imagery and musical hints have disappeared. Now, it's all about these people's idiosyncracies and man! Do they have some weird ones.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 09-30-23, 09:48 AM (EST) 7. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" Can’t say I disagree with anything you stated in your last post. HOLY SMOLEY, let me peek outside...I think it might be snowing! LMAO!! All kidding aside, “formulaic” pretty much sums up Production, Heck, last season players openly admitted to building replicas back at home to practice the formulaic challenges. Although when you think about it, competition in general can be considered formulaic. In the NFL you throw, you run, you tackle the man with the ball. In MLB, you hit, you catch, you throw. In the NHL, you skate, you shoot, you fight. And so on... We can even go back to the Roman Colosseum where gladiator fighting was as formulaic as it gets. Yet, spectators still came in droves by the hundreds of thousands to fill the Colosseum and the Superbowl is the most-watched event on TV every year. Whether you prefer it or not, basic human nature will ALWAYS have a thirst for competition at any level...and this certainly transcends down to Reality TV. It’s the main reason we have Survivor FORTY-FIVE. To your point, I would love to see challenges that capture the true essence of “Survivor.” Your suggestion of a challenge involving the use of a compass is a perfect example. Instead, we have a continual deluge of “damn friggin’ puzzles.” What makes professional sports work (despite its formulaic approach) is the continual new wave of great players. With Tom Brady officially retiring, the torch has been passed to Mahomes. Remember when the NBA was in a near panic with Michael Jordan retiring and the fear that “basketball will never be the same.” I think it’s safe to say LeBron James more than filled the void of MJ. I guess CBS Production has high aspirations of replacing G.O.A.T castaways like Westman with the likes of...Brandon, Emily and Hannah???!!! Simply put, casting has been an utter disaster for years now.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 09-30-23, 01:44 PM (EST) 8. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" LAST EDITED ON 09-30-23 AT 07:03 PM (EST) The main difference between Pro Sports and Survivor (besides the fact that pro sports have the best in the world which we can equate to «casting») is that we can follow OUR team and OUR players. Survivor, as you well know doesn't work with returning players so we can't have that type of attachement. The ONLY reason why Survivor has lasted 45 seasons isn't the «Mickey Mouse» challenges «performed» by various degrees of players (Ranging from challenge greats like Malcolm or Ozzy to rhubarbs like Brandon and Sandra). It has always been to get to know these characters. That is the only reason why I say casting has been the biggest strength of this show. It certainly doesn't have a perfect record and I'd love to see more goal-driven characters but casting holds this show together while production and even animation sucks. You know I have Tom has one of the best winners ever but let's not forget that he benefitted from great circumstances: Ulong was a tribe of Mactors who were more interested in being on TV than in competing in the jungle. A record FOUR Players quit and there were no tribal swaps to complicate things. Also, Tom faced very naïve players after the «merger». Tom Brady and all others were called GOATS because of what they did over SEVERAL seasons. Tom's record, in subsequent seasons, doesn't hold up.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-02-23, 11:06 AM (EST) 9. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" I think we've all been in agreement about Survivor's downfall for years. I wish someone at CBS would read our board and maybe they could bring back Survivor to it's glory days. I haven't watched the 1st episode and probably will tonight. Sounds like I will be FF quite a bit on DVR. Survivor and many shows before it don't know when to quit. Just like many athletes. If you can't keep up a high standard like you established then you need to retire and ride off in the sunset.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 10-02-23, 06:10 PM (EST) 10. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" I never asked for Survivor to end because, despite its shortcomings, is still better than most everything on TV except for pro sports.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 10-03-23, 05:24 PM (EST) 12. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" As stated in my prior posts, I still watch it for the competition aspect. Let me put it to you this way—if Survivor decided to eliminate challenges forever, I would stop watching in a New York second. If it became an “MTV Real World” in Fiji with 60 or 90 solid minutes of social butterflies fluttering their wings, there’s NOOOO doubt in my mind Survivor would be off the air quickly.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 10-03-23, 05:54 PM (EST) 14. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" I watch it also for Survivor's only truly REAL Competition: The VOTES!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 10-03-23, 05:21 PM (EST) 11. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" People’s “thirst for competition” is NOT directly related to any player/athlete allegiance. Participants come and go whether in a professional sports venue or the competition of a reality show. Did millions of Patriot fans switch their allegiance to the Bucs when Brady signed with Tampa Bay? NO! Was there a mass exodus from Indy by the Colts fans when P. Manning signed with the Broncos? NO! Since Palau was my favorite season, I read many articles about that season. One article addressed why we had no tribal switch. Actually, a tribal switch was in the script. But due largely to Westman’s dominance, when the switch was to take place in Palau, the disparity in tribe numbers was so great they decided to do away with it. Understand, this was still in the early years of Survivor when Burnett was at the helm who followed a strict script. Any reacting decisions would usually be made the following season. Not surprisingly, it was not by mere coincidence, the very next season 11-Guatemala the tribal switch occurred earlier than scripted for Palau. SoLong’s will and drive (except for Stephanie) was decimated by Westman’s dominance. Golfing legend Bobby Jones once said, the game of golf is played on a seven-inch course...the area between your ears. This can be said for ALL competitions. SoLong’s willingness to compete and to throw in the towel was a direct effect of Koror’s repeated victories led by Westman. This is NOT “circumstance,” it was cause and effect. Simply stated, Tom Westman got into that “seven-inch area between their ears.” When the most physically imposing player on your tribe (Bobby Jon) flat-out says at TC, “Tom is a man among men...we just can’t beat him,” that is all but waving the white flag and, for all intents and purposes, checking out of the game. One final note on your so-called “quitting.” I also read an article on Jonathon’s injury when he asked his tribe to vote him out, his tendon was completely torn from the ankle bone and needed to be surgically repaired. If you want to call that “quitting,” knock yourself out. But you have to agree with this—in current seasons Medical removed players from the game for a hellava lot less severe that THAT!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 4242 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 10-03-23, 05:50 PM (EST) 13. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" LAST EDITED ON 10-03-23 AT 05:53 PM (EST) I wrote that sports fans allegiance is both to TEAM and PLAYERS. I even bolded «TEAM» so your comment is worthless. If they removed a planned swap because of Tom (and I remember reading something to that effect) then that means they RIGGED the season to favor him. They do that often like making the idols visible when Hantz said he'd look from the start. Maybe after 3 challenges then Tom's dominance became apparent but before that? Nothing showed in the first one and the others were also team efforts mostly. Anyway, Tom SAT OUT the last three or four Immunity challenges and Solong still lost. Heck, Gregg wanted to throw the last Tribal IC but COBY managed to beat Steph and BJ pratically by himself. Watch how Gregg doesn't do anything, simply following Coby all the time. I'm not blaming Jeff for quitting just stating that this strong guy left. That helped Tom. Janu's quit helped Tom also. Having the wirthless AshlEE and Kim on Solong also helped Tom. By the Way, for a huge Palau fan, you mixed up Jeff Wilson and Jonathan Libby. Jonathan was the strong guy that didn't make it passed the first episode. Another factor helping Tom. 6 players eliminated without TC!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3359 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 10-06-23, 05:56 AM (EST) 15. "RE: New Season - New Format - Worse Players" Players...Teams...who cares?! It is the competition aspect that captivates fans. The Superbowl is the most watched event REGARDLESS of the players, teams, or whomever is featured...it’s about the COMPETITION. Just because Palau was my favorite season, it doesn’t mean I can recall each and every one of twenty castaways by name. Jonathan, Jeff, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Yadda...Yadda...Yadda... LOL Production’s decision to not have the tribal switch in Palau had nothing to do with any theorized “rigging” and everything to do with the tribe numbers disparity due to Tom’s dominance. Before it got to the last few ICs, Westman was already in that “seven-inch area between their ears.” SoLong was already a beaten tribe. At no point that season did we ever hear at SoLong’s TCs that Koror was a “team among teams.” What was stated is Tom was a “man among men.” Given that factual quote: ALL RISE...CASE DISMISSED!!! With this “case being dismissed” I’m starting a new topic for Episode 2.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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