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RollDdice 5934 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-20, 09:17 PM (EST) ""Be The Survivor"S40, Ep13: "Penultimate Step Class"" Everyone gather your Coronavirus compliant snacks and watch your fluid management as we go into a two-hour Survivor-palooza as this second-to-last episode picks up some steam. LTOS: Kim tried to send "Sneak and Peek" Tony to the Spy Shack free Edge of Extinction, but Tony snagged his third straight Immunity Challenge win. Instead, she tossed her fire tokens in the buckets and took the lonely kayak trip over to E of E. As the great poet (and Survivor fan) William Shakespeare once said, "The course of true love never did run smooth" and this is particularly true when it comes to Michele and Jeremy. I give them a 50/50 chance of that relationship succeeding. The other strange relationship is the Tony, Sarah and Jeremy troika that seems to be a "Cops R Us" spinoff, but with a side of Ben. As everyone negotiates and spins out of control to position themselves for the first Tribal Council of the episode it might be a good opportunity to sample some fine Tequila from last night's Cinco de Mayo celebrations. Meanwhile, Tony's power continues to build and the "Throne of Stone" flushes out a disadvantage. Mark "Sippin' Tequila and printing money" Burnett   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    The Aruba Commission Aruba 05-07-20 1    RE: The Aruba Commission RollDdice 05-08-20 2        RE: The Aruba Commission Aruba 05-08-20 3  An Insider's Look: michel2 05-09-20 4    RE: An Insider's Look: sj007 05-10-20 5        Aruba Commission response Aruba 05-13-20 6            A comment: michel2 05-13-20 7                RE: A comment: sj007 05-14-20 8                    RE: A comment: michel2 05-14-20 9                    RE: A comment: Aruba 05-18-20 10                        RE: A comment: michel2 05-18-20 11                            RE: A comment: Aruba 05-18-20 12                                RE: A comment: sj007 05-18-20 13                                    RE: A comment: Aruba 05-18-20 14                                        RE: A comment: michel2 05-18-20 15                                RE: A comment: michel2 05-18-20 16                                    RE: A comment: sj007 05-21-20 17                                        RE: A comment: michel2 05-21-20 18                                            RE: A comment: sj007 05-22-20 19                                                RE: A comment: michel2 05-22-20 20                                                    RE: A comment: sj007 05-26-20 21                                                        RE: A comment: michel2 05-26-20 22                                                            RE: A comment: sj007 05-28-20 23

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Aruba 3243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-07-20, 11:58 AM (EST) 1. "The Aruba Commission" LAST EDITED ON 05-08-20 AT 09:21 AM (EST) Heading into the two-hour showing last night, the Aruba Commission was settled in for a double episode...well it didn’t exactly turn out that way. The first “episode” was only 45 minutes. Perhaps that means the two-hour telecast would conclude with the EoE winback challenge that was anticipated to kick-off the Finale next week? After the second TC all signs appeared to be pointing in that direction. NADA...the final 10-15 minutes was wasted with a silly recrap and sappy reflections about the Edge...yadda...yadda...yadda...blah...blah...blah... #1 – What has become a rather normal post-TC scene, Michele laments over being out of the voting loop—AGAIN! She whines that she would have voted for Kim if the majority wanted her to. HMMM, and this is still the same “wishy-washy” castaway who longs to be regarded as an upper-tier player??? She appropriately sums up her sorry ass season with a metaphor of “bringing a butter knife to a gunfight.” #2 – Jeremy gives the 50-50 coin back to Michele. He says he doesn’t want his Survivor fate to “come down to a 50-50 toss.” OK, so he would rather prefer his Survivor fate come down to a TC vote where he has been a target the last THREE TIMES??? Brilliant...REAL brilliant! #3 – Every player knows from Ben’s championship season that he suffers from PTSD and experiences disturbing flashbacks when palm leaves start crackling in the fire. So, what do the insensitive castaways do? Throw palm leaves into the fire forcing Ben to walk away. Surprised Production would allow that to occur. Afterall, isn’t Ben Jiffy’s “boy???” #4 – We are subjected to an annoyingly needless scene with Tony and Jeremy arguing over the length of a week. Tony is fixated on a workweek with its five days, whereas Jeremy is referencing a calendar week with seven days. Alright, so THIS is why last night’s telecast needed a two-hour timeslot?! #5 – FINALLY we get to the meat of Survivor – Immunity Challenge. You knew it would only be a matter of time before Production resumed its love affair with “damn friggin’ puzzles.” No one is more happy than Nick who wins the coveted Immunity Necklace. No one is more distraught than Michele who left her “butter knife” back at camp by not even making it to the puzzle portion in one of the more pathetic challenge efforts on Survivor. If they allowed Michele to finish, we would have needed at least a THREE-HOUR telecast. She fittingly breaks down in tears. #6 – With the primary target Nick having immunity, the focus now turns back to Jeremy whose Survivor fate has been hanging by a thread. With the 50-50 coin public knowledge, the majority voting block will split their votes between Jeremy and Michele, while the minority voters are targeting Ben. #7 – THANKFULLY, we are NOT subjected to more obnoxious whispering at TC. What we do have is Michele’s 50-50 coin and this TC is the last opportunity to play it. Michele approaches Jeff’s podium and deliberates long and hard whether to play the coin for herself or for Jeremy. Jeremy even tries emulating his best Perv-ati dinosaur mouth/tombstone teeth smile to convince her to play it on him. HMM, wasn’t this the same Jeremy who refuses to allow his game to come down to a 50-50 toss??? Michele decides to play it on herself and when it comes up “safe” we are treated to a little warm-up gyration to an anticipated pole dance. With Ebay dollar signs in her eyes, she asks if she can keep the coin. Probst answers, “No.” Although, in the end it is Jeremy who received the most votes. He makes the appropriate choice and gives his tokens to Michele. #8 – Surprise, surprise...Michele is on the short end of ANOTHER TC vote. Back at camp, she trades in her butter knife for a paintbrush and decides to plant a seed to target the player owning this season thus far—Tony. Not a bad idea, but her execution is disastrous when she decides to sow the seed onto Tony’s closest cohort in crime—Sarah. That’s about as futile as the FBI trying to convince Bonnie to wear a wire so it can entrap and slap the cuffs on Clyde. #9 – Back on the EoE, strong consideration is given to rename it Natalie’s Island. True to form, the Jersey Girl remains Jersey Strong by winning ANOTHER challenge. As the winner, Natalie has to choose a player to sell the right to give a person of their choice a disadvantage at the next IC. She chooses Nick. The price of Survivor extortion just went up—the ransom will cost him EIGHT fire tokens. Nick needs a couple more tokens to pay the ransom. His first choice is his “main man” Tony, but Tony doesn’t have any. Tony is now Nick’s “main man…” did the Commission note that Tony is owning this season?? So, he ends up going to Michele who he knows has the necessary tokens. They decide to give the disadvantage to Ben. #10 – At the IC, Jeff announces Ben will have a disadvantage in the challenge. Ben remarks that he’s “not making too many friends.” Although, we know Ben has one BIG friend...Jiffy. The fact that Production would “allow” Jeff’s “favorite” to be so disadvantaged surely sticks a major size harpoon into any proposed unproven conspiracy theory or unfounded claims of a season “fix.” #11 – Even though Ben is forced to go 30% further because of the disadvantage, he’s moving through the challenge better than anyone else. He is working on his extra 30% before the others reach the normal ends of theirs. The disadvantage simply becomes too much to overcome. With only one more block for Ben to place, Michele takes advantage of Ben’s disadvantage and wins the IC. After her elaborate endzone celebration, Jeff awards her a much needed IN as she would have been the primary target at TC. Instead of spiking the ball, she should have planted a big sloppy kiss on Nick whose disadvantage prevented a Ben win. What we get is an obnoxious nah-nah-nah-nah-nah... #12 – One of the many reasons Tony earned his win at Cagayan was the clever use of his “Spy Shack” to acquire backstabbing information. Fast forward to his “Spy Nest” this season, as Denise gets caught near the water well by Tony up in a tree and she’s holding a knife with Tony’s name on it (not to be confused with Michele’s butter knife.) The choice now comes down to Nick or Denise at the upcoming TC. #13 – The talk at TC turns to Denise’s decision to use her tokens for a bag of rice because if she is going to EoE it will be with a full belly. She proclaims she’s “not done playing” but does not want to “scramble” anymore. PSST, hey Denise, you’re the oldest player who started the season and the oldest left in the game. As long as the greatest divide remains prevalent on Reality TV and age discrimination is sadly still allowed in the game, “scrambling” for you is not a choice; it is a necessity. As anticipated, the vote came down between Nick and Denise with Nick becoming the newest inhabitant on the Edge. As he begins his walk of shame, VAMPIRE Nick begins to howl like a WEREWOLF?? Apparently our boy Nick is not a huge fan of horror films. Much to Denise’s chagrin, her “scrambling” days are far from over. #14 – We are brought back to EoE where Am”bah” pours her heart out over how much she’ll miss the “simplicity” on the Edge because life is not so simple back at home. AHHH Really???!!! CBS provided BOTH Am”bah” AND Rob additional tries to BOTH pocket a cool million dollars EACH. Not to mention their gig on TAR along with any other do-ri-me given to them so they could live their lives in the virtual playground CBS has provided for them. Production has giftwrapped more moolah their way than 95%+ of the average households will probably earn in a lifetime having to resort to living their lives a whole lot less "simpler." It’s that 95% of the viewing population that is being asked to relate to her heartfelt sentiment? Please excuse the Commission as it wipes a tear away from its cheek. *snort* #15 – The much-awaited mail is read informing all of the upcoming challenge to win their way back into the game. Wendell mumbles something about “warpaint.” The Perv is more concerned about her “warrior hairstyle” (to compliment her warrior dinosaur teeth.) Meanwhile, Production needed to bring in a Front End Loader to stockpile all the fire tokens Natalie has accumulated. She uses the sum of her domination to purchase peanut butter and THREE advantages for the upcoming challenge. She also has an II from early on and still has enough tokens to purchase ANOTHER idol. Allowed to bring only one II back into the game, she gives her newly purchased idol to Tyson. Should Natalie win the challenge and grab one of the coveted three Finalist seats at FTC, pretty sure she gets at least one vote for the title. #16 – NTOS: The F5 are jockeying for position. Jeff shouts out the battle cry at the challenge. As if Natalie is not already the pre-challenge favorite, throw in THREE advantages and it would be a major upset if she does NOT win her way back into the game. We started this season of former Sole Survivors with THREE previous winners from the Garden State (NJ.) Should Natalie indeed win her way back into the game, and for EACH AND EVERY ONE of the castaways residing in the same State to ALL make up the Final Three at season’s end and be sitting at FTC as Finalists would be astounding! Should that Jersey Strong finish occur, the Aruba Commission will forever refer to this season as S40: Garden State Dominance!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RollDdice 5934 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-08-20, 02:10 PM (EST) 2. "RE: The Aruba Commission" While it's always illuminating, educational and refreshing to read The Aruba Commission report, I am particularly intrigued by the issue raised in point #7. The continued visits to Whispering Pines while at Tribal Council have been annoying. Does it add drama when various players jump up and give others a wet willie as they spread rumors, negotiate or pass along last minute voting instructions? Perhaps. Should there be a time limit so the conversations don't include how to assemble the Glurg chair from IKEA or someone's latest rash? Definitely. Maybe whispering should only be allowed if someone has found the Hidden "Stick It In Your Ear" Idol. Hidden takeout, crouching cookie.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-08-20, 03:51 PM (EST) 3. "RE: The Aruba Commission" Hey RollDdice, First off, thank you for finding the Commission’s Reports entertainingly “refreshing.” What is really refreshing is to know posters/readers can acknowledge and understand this is a “Bashers” Forum and can accept it as such. Thank you, Again! The disapproval of the whispering at TC is a case of the Commission’s “old school” sentiment showing through in its Report. Back when Mark Burnett had full power as Executive Producer, the sentiment was the players had MUCH ample time leading up to TC to deliberate and get their ducks in a row before the eventual vote. The players are with each other 24/7. If they are unable to get their acts together with ALL that time on their hands and need to resort to last second obnoxious behavior, it’s not saying much for the players. Conversely, the Commission concluded a while back, Jeff must have been a big Jerry Springer fan in his early days. The biggest criticism, is in the spirit of the game, the Jury is unable to hear what is going on with the whispering. What may make it more “dramatic” for the TV audience is the subtitles shown to the viewers so we have some idea what is going on...an element NOT available to the Jury. If I was a Juror, I’d be majorly PO’d and frustrated. Lastly, what occurred during the Ep. 12 TC clearly crossed the line in the Commission’s opinion. It’s one thing to have that annoyance before the vote, BUT to allow it AFTER the voting has taken place is a case of Probst simply losing control of TC. Not sure if any time limit or ground rules for whispering would work if the “Moderator” has a difficult time moderating. Once again, this is “Old School” talking. Certainly, those with more “newer school” sentiment may find that last-minute chaos entertaining. The Commission can respect that...different strokes for different folks...makes the world go ‘round...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-09-20, 11:33 PM (EST) 4. "An Insider's Look: " LAST EDITED ON 05-10-20 AT 12:42 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 05-09-20 AT 11:47 PM (EST) I know that some people hate spoilers but it must be hard to avoid them when SeeBS itself spoils their own show. EVERYONE paying attention to the promos knew that Jerely was going to be the first boot because they contained the scene where Yul brought the advantage clue: Jeremy was clearly seen standing there. Stupid SeeBS. Why did Jeremy give the advantage back to Michelle and then silently pleaded to get it back at TC? Some people don't understand and think he's dumb! It's rather easy to understand: Jeremy was clearly hoping to find a way to rally a majority and the first step was to keep Michelle in his corner. For that, he HAD to give the coin back. Next he didn't want to rely on the 50/50 coin because it represents only temporary safety at best. It's like a person driving a car; they'll prefer avoiding accidents instead of counting on their insurances to save their life or repair their car. However, if an accident happens then they'll certainly fill out the insurance forms. When facing the vote, Jeremy had to realize he hadn't rallied the majority so it was time for insurance. It's funny sometimes how the cameras reveal that Jeff's script is false. According to Jiffy, Ben was only ONE block short of winning the challenge when Michelle won but look here: It's clear that there are THREE blocks left on Ben's table Another amusing thing is seeing people showing their double standards, laughing at Michelle for a poor performance in the first challenge but barely giving her credit for her win. A win is a win while it doesn't matter whether one finishes last or just one second behind the winner. Second place is merely first loser and a challenge win only matters when you're next on the pecking order. So congratulations to Michelle for a great win. What isn't amusing is keeping secrets from the players, keeping crucial information from them. OK, not telling Ben who put the disadvantage on him protected Nick (although, unless he's braindead, Ben had to suspect Nick or Michelle) but saying nothing can lead the players to think the jury sent it to Ben. That makes him a much more attractive player to take to the end than he actually is. Although, in this case, Ben is a GOAT. He was DEAD in his first season but people sentenced to death get lucky sometimes, especially when Production changes the rules at the last minute to give him a chance. Michelle's Hail Mary should have worked; most smart players would realize that Tony is a threat to win the game so it's time to blindside him. Trish suffered from Stockholm Syndrome and stuck to her tormentor. I thought Sarah was immune to that but clearly she isn't. I wonder how the jury will vote? Is it more impressive to be like Tony, in on every vote or is it preferable to be like Michelle surviving every vote even if she had no control. Personally, I think I'd reward the person that Outlasted without any protection over the one who lucked out by having many friends cast for the game. I think the jury will see it my way. Why? Answer this simple question: Who received Fire Tokens from the eliminated players, Michelle or Tony? When asked about this 2 hour special, Jiffy tried selling the idea that they needed that much time to show everything that was going on. What we got instead where two ordinary episodes with a Looong promo of next week's episode. At least I found Amber's comments very profound especially as they relate to our present predicament. Like her on the Edge of Extinction, we live in isolation and this lockdown forces us to appreciate the simpler things in life. Like her, we'll never want to come back to this confinement but why not take the time to savor the tranquility and the respite? So, now that we are heading to the Finale, there are really only 2 questions left to answer: 1- Who will come back from the Edge of Extinction: While Natalie has all those advantages and often spoke of coming back, as soon as I heard Kim’s final words on the day of her elimination, I’ve felt that she’d be coming back so I’ll go with Kim. 2- Who wins the War: Here, I see two possibilities: A) The Player that has Game: That would be Tony of course. He’s dominated the end game because, once more, he’s benefitted from loyal-to-a-fault allies. His move against Sophie should have told everyone not to play with Tony but he’s only grown stronger since. B) The Player that has the edit: I’ve had trouble following the overall story because it was so fragmented but if we look at the overall season, there is no doubt that extra-special care has been given to Michelle. How can she get to the end? Well, the returning player can provide assistance and act as a shield so maybe that’s good for a Tribal Council or two then maybe someone will misjudge her connection to the jury. Tony saw her as a goat but we saw many players given her hugs of comfort and tokens. The people on the jury like Michelle. We also had the scene where Rob told her “Good Game” which could be the biggest hint of the season. I’m not sure of the outcome but I must say that, besides Natalie whose Edge of Extinction dominance has been quite a revelation, Michelle has been the freshest character of the season. Ben and Denise have been like terrible sequels, Sarah is just as boring as she ever was while Tony 3.0, outside of his Survivor Know-it-all lectures to allies and enemies, isn't much different than the first 2 versions. Michelle had been so much Under-the-Radar in Soah Rong that seeing her in a starring role is quite new.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-10-20, 11:49 AM (EST) 5. "RE: An Insider's Look: " Well said. I don't understand why Tony wasn't taken out. He was one of the biggest threats in the game. And for Sarah to trust him is simply foolish. Just cuz he is a fellow cop. Look what he did to her in season 27. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... Her logic is asinine. Even if she makes it to the final she won't beat him. Tony will definitely turn on her before then. Stupid! Whoever comes back from eoe will be irrelevant. So another dumb gimmick by Probst. If Tony makes it to the end he will win in a landslide. The only one who could give him a run for his money at final tribal is Sarah and he will cut her loose before. I hope it doesn't happen.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-13-20, 09:59 AM (EST) 6. "Aruba Commission response" Hi sj007, The Commission agrees...with the way Tony is controlling the game thus far, the title is his to lose. Much like Jeremy knew he was highly targeted in THREE TCs before the one that inevitably did him in, thanks to Tony’s “spy nest,” Tony is also keenly aware he is being targeted. Whereas, some people may opt for insurance even if they personally are not highly at risk but do so merely for piece of mind, such is/(was) NOT the case with Tony (and Jeremy.) Tony (who knows he is at risk) has some insurance in the form of a HII, but will need more so he does NOT suffer the same fate as Jeremy who erroneously handed back the insurance he obviously needed. And why was Jeremy targeted? We heard Ben say IN HIS OWN WORDS that Jeremy is liked by the Jury and great in challenges. Quite frankly, that was somewhat hysterical to hear from Ben because Ben HIMSELF has been no slouch in the challenges. One block, two blocks. three blocks...who gives a flop??? The simple fact of the matter Ben was WELL into his 30% disadvantage BEFORE any other player was near their normal end. The disadvantage Nick gave Ben ABSOLUTELY cost Ben a win and affected the outcome. As for how could anyone “trust” Tony being the type of person he is and not take him out? Fact is, EVERYONE in this season is a liar, backstabber, deceiver, and will do whatever to try to win $2 million. Sarah ain’t exactly a “Mother Theresa” pristine model of integrity herself. Goes back to what the Aruba Commission stated in its report last week: Better to stick with the Devil you know than the one you don’t. On the subject of being lying sacks of sh!t...in last week’s episode it was interesting to hear both Ben and Jeremy talk about their inability to trust others when they went back home. The Commission’s contention has always been the other side of the coin and how OTHERS will now look upon the players who showcased their lying, backstabbing, deceit, etc. after they return home from their Reality witnessed by millions on TV? Especially those the likes of Tony and Sarah who work in Law Enforcement! Should anyone other than Rob or Natalie win their way back into the game tonight, it may vey well be “irrelevant.” But for a returnee to come back with a HII (that Rob and Natalie both possess,) they will be bringing some relevance into the game...at least for the TC where they would play their HII. With Natalie having THREE advantages in the comeback challenge, for her to win her way back in, with the obvious challenge prowess she possesses, if she can win an IC or two Natalie would bring even more relevance to control the outcome of the game. If she becomes a Finalist and is seating between (let’s say) Denise and Michele, she probably wins. Although back to our presumption...should Tony be a Finalist, he deservingly wins this season regardless who else is in the Finals. Enjoy the Finale/Reunion Show tonight and catch you on the final thread of the season RollDdice will kick off following tonight’s telecast!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-13-20, 01:14 PM (EST) 7. "A comment: " SJ007, beware of a commission that reaches conclusions without facts. Ben may very well have been into the 30% additional portion of his challenge but to say it "ABSOLUTELY cost Ben the win" is simply a huge assumption disguised as fact: If Ben was so far ahead of the others then it was probably because his blocks were spaced too far apart!!! The line of block may have stopped falling well before reaching the end! But, for many, judgment gets clouded when talking about a favorite. And, in a season of returning players, I think it is much more impressive to survive without friends like Michelle, then being surrounded by allies that were made outside of the game like Tony. That's just how I'd vote but I'm sure that if anyone votes for Michelle over Tony the commission will scream "Bitter Jury".   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-14-20, 02:44 PM (EST) 8. "RE: A comment: " LAST EDITED ON 05-14-20 AT 03:22 PM (EST) I haven't watched the last few episodes so I missed that challenge you guys are talking about. What is the controversy with it again? I agree all the returning players are liars but some are way above board than others. Just for example if I was playing this season I could play with Sandra and trust her. Of course she has lied and deceived like everyone else but if you ally with her she won't turn on you and stab you in the back. On the other hand all you had to watch was Cagayan and learn that Tony will lie, say, and do anything to win. Especially against his allies. I could never play with or trust a douchebag like that. It's so easy for him to act like that without a conscience. It's pretty scary he is a cop. One other example is Russell. Total out of touch with reality ##### and douchebag on Survivor. I bet he is like that in real life. I would love for a sociologist to study behavior in real life and on a game like Survivor. You just can't separate that easily what you do on Survivor and the way you act in real life. It's not that easy. Tony is not the only one but the way he plays and acts with no regrets at all, is that I'm willing to bet he acts like that in real life also. Disclaimer I do not have a sociology degree lol.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-14-20, 03:23 PM (EST) 9. "RE: A comment: " It was the challenge where Nick put a disadvantage on Ben. Michelle won it but Probst noted that despîte his disadvantage, Ben was only 1 block short when the cameras clearly showed he still had 3 blocks left.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-18-20, 08:14 AM (EST) 10. "RE: A comment: " Sj007, The challenge was pretty straight-forward...line up blocks on a beam having to step over trip obstacles while going back and forth to retrieve blocks one at a time. When the blocks were stacked up to the end, you let them topple over like a row of dominos so the last block that falls over rings some silly gong. Natalie won another challenge earlier on EoE giving her the option to sell a disadvantage to anyone in the game. Natalie chose to extort Nick selling the disadvantage to him who in turn gave the disadvantage to Ben forcing him to stack blocks on a beam 30% LONGER with 30% MORE BLOCKS to stack. Grammar school arithmetic would dictate the others started off with 20 blocks while Ben had 26. The Commission concluded it’s the only numbers that support the 30% disadvantage...other numbers would result in the 30% addition calculating to some fraction. Ben was ABSOLUTELY performing the best in this challenge. He had only one block left to stack when Michele was able to take advantage of the disadvantage Nick gave Ben causing a post-challenge scene that emulated those obnoxious endzone celebrations commonplace in the NFL. This is where the water got muddied twisting the focus on how many blocks were unused. A screen shot clearly shows Ben with three blocks unused at his starting point. What is conveniently omitted is Michele with MORE THAN ONE BLOCK unused at HER starting point as well! For those who want “facts,” here is a fact...the players did NOT need to use each and every block given them to successfully line up and fall like dominos to ring the gong. This fact is supported by the unused blocks still at Ben AND Michele’s starting point when the challenge was over. This fact reinforces the Commission’s conclusion of not giving a hoot as to the irrelevance of how many blocks were unused. Bottom line, the Aruba Commission stands behind its determination that the disadvantage cost Ben the win.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-18-20, 11:41 AM (EST) 11. "RE: A comment: " I gave you proof that Ben still had three blocks left but you give nothing supporting your claim that Michele didn't use all of hers. Regardless, we KNOW that Michele spaced her blocks correctly and the dominoes did make it all the way to the end while we have NO WAY of knowing if Ben had spaced them too far apart. His line could have fallen short. Or, he could have tripped the whole thing trying to place the remaining blocks. So no, you cannot say that Ben was even close to winning. To me, that was just more Probst-style BS.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-18-20, 12:20 PM (EST) 12. "RE: A comment: " The Commission can counter and state the reason Michele had the blocks appropriately spaced was because she did NOT have the pressure of Ben way ahead of her had he not been given the disadvantage. ...or perhaps, maybe a 300-lb pig could have been dropped from the sky and landed on Ben’s head giving him ZERO chance to win... LOL Any and all hypotheses can be used to muddy the fact that Ben was screwed with a disadvantage. Now, had Ben performed miserably in the challenge and not even reached the "normal" end point, it would have made his disadvantage a moot point. Nothing was further from the truth. The disadvantage given to Ben made all the difference in the world to affect the outcome of that challenge regardless how you wish to spin it. Anyone watching the ENTIRE challenge can see BOTH Ben AND Michele had blocks left. The Commission does not get involved with posting pictures because if one picture is posted, then as a matter of consistency, an opposing view picture should appropriately get posted as well and it would get much too crazy. But for those who orgasm over that kind of stuff...if you do for one, you should do for all. That is, unless one subjectively picks and chooses what they wish to post to ONLY support their agenda/views as opposed to objectively painting a complete and accurate picture of a situation.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-18-20, 01:15 PM (EST) 13. "RE: A comment: " I thought I read somewhere here about Ben voting for himself at tribal like he had a second vote or something. Maybe I was confused about something else. That didn't happen right?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Aruba 3243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-18-20, 01:48 PM (EST) 14. "RE: A comment: " LAST EDITED ON 05-18-20 AT 01:54 PM (EST) Correct sj007. Ben did not vote for himself. It didn't happen because it CAN'T happen...the rules of Survivor do not allow it. The majority alliance of Tony-Sarah-Ben would have voted Natalie out had she not found the HII. This left Michele as the only other choice for the majority three to boot. But Ben, who decided he values friendship over any additional prize money, told Sarah it was OK if she wanted to write his name down. She did, and was the swing vote sending Ben to the Jury over Michele by a 3-2 vote. Makes you wonder if Ben would have put that much premium on friendship had he not had $1,000,000 already in the bank thanks to his previous win??? Chalk it up as ANOTHER reason not to like seasons with returning players. Even with Ben's "permission," you can say it may have been MORE "stupid" for Sarah to take him up on it. Thank about it...at this late stage in the game (and knowing about the fire-making challenge where one player gets dragged to the Finals) keeping someone like Michele around as the prime choice for anyone to drag to the Finals, it would have been in Sarah's best interest to vote Michele out right there. This would set up a Tony-Sarah-Natalie-Ben F4. Natalie wins the Final IC, and chances are really, REALLY good she puts Ben and Tony up against each other to make fire and brings Sarah to the Finals. If Tony beats Ben, it wouldn't matter because Tony wins the game regardless. But if Ben beats Tony in the fire, with a F3 of Sarah-Natalie-Ben, Sarah has an excellent chance to win the two million even though Natalie would get her share of votes. Food for thought...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-18-20, 04:15 PM (EST) 15. "RE: A comment: " That's spin to the n-th power! Remember BOTH Tony and Sarah said Michele would probably beat them in the Fire-making challenge. Natalie didn't drag Michele to the end; she didn't want to face both Sarah and Tony in the end so she went with her original idea of breaking up the alliance. Really, her only chance to win would have been to give the necklace to Michele and confront Tony herself at Fire making. PS. Ben's a QUITTER.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-18-20, 04:24 PM (EST) 16. "RE: A comment: " I didn't pick and choose my pictures: I clearly saw Ben's three green blocks on his table but didn't see any blocks on Michele's table. Maybe I missed it but I'll let you look for that evidence. And providing visual proof to an argument is smart. Only a biased commission (or the present tenant of the White House) would call picture evidence "crazy". Another thing I saw was Tony trying to make his dominoes fall and the line petered out after 5 or 6 so suggesting that Ben's line could have come short is much more probable than having Pink Floyd's emblem falling on Ben. Anyway, Ben wasn't "screwed" by the challenge because he didn't need to win it at all. He was 100% safe at that point with an idol in his pocket and the majority alliance voting with him. Screaming and pointing at Ben's disadvantage only serves your purpose of denigrating Michele's win. You speak as if ONLY Ben could have beaten her but she still had to beat 4 other players.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-21-20, 10:14 AM (EST) 17. "RE: A comment: " LAST EDITED ON 05-21-20 AT 10:14 AM (EST) That makes no sense what Ben did. It smells fishy. Ya if that was me playing after all that time and so close to the end I would have no problem with getting voted out and throwing away a chance to win a cool 2 million. Ya right. Either Ben really is a ##### idiot or something else is going on. I agree it was stupid of Sarah to vote out Ben. Her logic should've been hmmm... Ben is pretty good at fire making and if things fall right it would be Tony against Ben and Tony would probably lose. My chance to win the game increased greatly. I'm sure Tony told her he didn't want to go up against Ben in a fire making challenge. Shame on her. Ur right if it did end up a Ben, Sarah, Natalie final Sarah does win but it's not a blowout. Tony wins no matter what whoever sits beside him. Shame on Ben and Sarah for blowing it and being total morons. And these people all won the game before wow. It shows that luck has a lot to do with winning.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-21-20, 03:48 PM (EST) 18. "RE: A comment: " Yes, there could have been something happening behind the scene that we was hidden. In S16 Micronesia, an Inside source told us that both James and Alexis had entered a restricted zone and been caught stealing food from the buffet that was reserved for the crew. Both were removed from the game that very episode but it was never presented as a Disqualification. For James, the doctor said his finger was too infected for him to continue whereas Alexis was booted by a Immunity Idol that Amanda found at the last minute. Production staged the whole thing to avoid having nothing to show and to save James' reputation. Ben could have done something that warranted a Disqualification, who knows with SeeBS!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-22-20, 04:31 PM (EST) 19. "RE: A comment: " Michel I don't know how technically computer savvy you are but could you come up with a logo for SeeBS? Instead of their eye logo, maybe fill out with bullcrap or something. The stuff that goes on behind the scenes that they cover up is disgusting. I wish more of it would come out. Speaking of Micronesia I wonder if production had anything to do with Erik giving away his idol which has become the dumbest move in Survivor history. In my view that narrowly edges out J.T. for his blunder on season 20.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-22-20, 05:45 PM (EST) 20. "RE: A comment: " LAST EDITED ON 05-22-20 AT 05:49 PM (EST) How about this for logo? "I wonder if production had anything to do with Erik giving away his idol which has become the dumbest move in Survivor history" I always pictured that it went something like this: After talking to Natalie, production ordered Erik to a confessional where they asked him about his talk with Natalie. Erik would have started with: "Natalie had that stupid idea of me giving up immunity to save her." Interviewer - "Why would she even think you'd do that?" Erik: "She said Cirie would want to vote with us against Amanda but that she won't because she doesn't trust me." Interviewer - "That is a good point; if you could convince Cirie to vote with you then you'd have a big chance of making it to the end but Cirie isn't easily manipulated." Erik: "I guess it would be easier to make it to the end with an alliance of three than playing by myself." Interviewer - "If you do make it to the end, do you think you'd get the vote?" Erik: "I have played a very quiet game..." Interviewer - "From what I heard, the jury barely knows you but imagine their reaction if you save Natalie and survive the vote!" Erik: "That would certainly count as a big move! but what if it doesn't work?" Interviewer - "If you want to win big you must take big risks." Erik: "You are right." PS. I think something much like this happened to get JT to give up his immunity to RussHole AND to get Tyson to vote the way he did when he was voted out in HvV. Tyson got rewarded for that vote when he won on his 3rd try.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-26-20, 07:05 PM (EST) 21. "RE: A comment: " Lol that's perfect. Thanks Michel. I'll have to email it to the executives at SeeBs and a special one for Probst. That really bugs me that production can influence certain moves. I say to myself I'm too mentally tough and smart and wouldn't fall for any of that bullshit, but after that long being sleep deprived and hungry you're probably not thinking straight. For them to take advantage of certain players to change the game is really fucked up!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel2 3792 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 05-26-20, 07:49 PM (EST) 22. "RE: A comment: " I've played a good number of on-line game and I can tell you that not knowing who to trust, who is lying to you and who is being honest is enough to drive you crazy. And that's playing from my living room with plenty of food and drink. If, in real-life Survivor, interview questions are just a little tendencious then players could see them as life-lines. After all, the same person who interviewed Erik also interviewed Cirie so Erik could easily see the question as an indication of what Cirie was actually thinking.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

sj007 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-28-20, 06:42 PM (EST) 23. "RE: A comment: " That's my point though. It's one thing to be deceived by other players. That's part of the game and you have to be smart enough to realize what's going on around you. For production to put a bug in your ear or whatever, that's totally unacceptable.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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