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"S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
I was SO hoping for a schoolyard pick comprising two 7-player tribes with the unchosen person getting whisked away to Ghost Island and joining the losing tribe after booting a player at TC.
Unfortunately, we have the dreaded three-tribe format giving the runner-up tribe in the IC a pass. Minor League!

1) WENDELL – Nice episode for him. Jeff was all but polishing the goat horns on his head, yet he never panicked or faltered. Quite the contrary, making up for his miscue and guiding his team to victory. Well done, young man! Whereas, presentation of the conch shell to Sebastian was borderline sappy, the way Seb reacted scored a win for his social game.

2) MICHAEL – This kid simply can’t catch a break with any swap. Gets grouped with three Navitis and a guy he wanted to vote out at the second TC. Although James said he wouldn’t hold it against him, one could never know for sure. Kellyn and Desiree could have easily ended Michael’s game last TC when Naviti had the numbers—but they did not. What better way for Michael to show his appreciation and join them in voting out someone he had no allegiance with and voted to boot on day six. Finally, while most everyone was talking about making the merge like finding the Holy Grail, Michael is looking beyond. Someone whose primary focus is to win the game.

3) KELLYN – Geez Jeff, when you asked everyone at TC to reveal how they “lead” with their game, why not also ask them who they were voting for before they walked up to the parchments for crying out loud! Everyone took the bait...except Kellyn. She cleverly kept her cards close to the vest AND earned monster praise from the Executive Director/Host who admitted after 36 seasons Kellyn could still school him on the game. WOW, you go girl!!

4) LAUREL – I’m keeping her near the top for exercising extreme self-discipline by not administering one of her patented overhand volleyball spikes right cross Chris’s self-boasting mouth. Smart, athletic, grounded, and level-headed enough to go deep into the game.

5) DONATHAN – One of the more memorable Survivor quotes came from Borneo, the season that started it all, when Rudy said he is getting to like Richard...but not in a homosexual kind of way. I think I can speak for many viewers to say we can apply Rudy’s sentiment to Donathan. His social game will be endearing regardless what tribe he’s on. That, coupled with his non-threat status, makes him legitimate F4 material.

6) LIBBY – I only have her here for scenery. Her natural beauty is a double-edged sword. It could get her far or, as hinted this past episode, could be her undoing.

The rest of the cast I’ve soured on for one reason or another.

7) DOM – I could rank him higher for his performance at the IC, but I could also rank him lower for becoming an honorary member of the “Jealous Bitches” Club. Forget the “Ghost Island” curse...Dom will feel the wrath of the “Aruba” curse if he follows through on his threat to eliminate the only real eye candy left in the game.

8) SEBASTIAN – Don’t love him; don’t hate him. Could be the center of an interesting “Love Triangle” between Jenna and Wendell. LOL. Seriously though, you got to believe Jenna could offer a tad bit more than a conch (I’m expecting Kingfish to jump all over that one)—so pretty easy to predict where eyelash boy will gravitate toward.

9) ANGELA – I was never really buying Angela as the swing vote thinking Michael would ultimately stick with the players he had been living with for over a week. But I guess that’s the only way Production was able to provide any relevance for her.

10) JENNA – She’s on a new tribe with two buff guys, the most recent IC MVP-Wendell, and an intercollegiate volleyball athlete. Fate may be a “Homie” for Desiree; but it’s the “Dumb-Ass Luck" Award for Jenna.

11) BRADLEY – When Clint Eastwood uttered one of his more memorable movie quotes, “You’re a legend in your own mind,” he was thinking of self-absorbed douchebags like Bradley. If he was “practically licking his lips” over Stephanie, perhaps he will trip over his tongue with Libby and rally to keep her around. One can only hope.

12) CHRIS – His prior proactive efforts advanced his survival to Ep. 6. As for Ep. 6—SHUT THE F--- UP!!! If Bill Gates was on Yanuya, I’d give Chris three seconds tops to inform the rest of the tribe he got an “A” in his High School Computer Science class. Instead of making the Sign of the Cross before a challenge, he should be making the Sign of the Cross when he opens his mouth.

13) CHELSEA – The disgust she visibly showed when Jeff announced to drop your buffs is the disgust every Survivor fan should show with Chelsea still in the game. The only noteworthy assessment in six episodes was how she friggin’ "fellatioed" in a challenge.

14) DESIREE – Three Navitis and three women on the post-post swapped Malolo tribe is all that saved the IC goat this week. The only noteworthy assessment I can make on Desiree is her...hey Michel, how do you say “watermelons” in French?

BOOTED) JAMES – Desiree deserved the boot, but he’s been playing with house money ever since surviving the TC where he deserved the boot during the Premier. You’ve got to believe future challenges will involve water that has a similar effect on James as does on the Wizard of Oz’s Wicked Witch of the West. So, I don’t disagree with the boot choice, and I’m not disappointed with his departure.

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The episode started with the Tribal shuffle which completely neglected the aftermath of Malolo’s previous TC. Maybe it’s a good thing because all we would have wanted to hear was Michael’s reasoning for turning his back on Stephanie.

As for the shuffle itself, Malolo could wind up being the worst tribe ever but the “Survivor Gods” aren’t doing them any favor. Of course, for Jeff, Malolo as a tribe, doesn’t depend on its individual members. With one Immunity win, Malolo is already better than Ulong. Even if we discount tribal swaps, this Orange tribe is still not as bad as Ravu, the first orange tribe in Fiji. What we can say is that, despite all the swaps, the game is being played with the original Naviti battling Malolo’s first members. Going from 2 tribes with 9 Naviti and 6 Malolo to 3 tribes, we had the following permutations:

M:N, M:N, M:N
2:3, 2:3, 2:3
3:2, 2:3, 1:4
4:1, 1:4, 1:4
3:2, 3:2, 0:5
4:1, 2:3, 0:5
5:0, 1:4, 0:5

We see that the fourth possibility would have resulted in Malolo safety because they would have majority in 2 tribes and no members to eliminate in the third but, being “cursed”, they wound up with the first possibility, the one that put them in a disadvantage in all three tribes. So, do you believe in curses? I do not; I see production interference as a much more plausible explanation. To what end? Production could want to see Naviti’s battle to the end. Jeff’s recap showed their paradox: On one side, Naviti was turning on each other while, on the other, they were staying united. That duality could very well be the story of the season. However, production could also want a lone Malolo giving us an incredible come back story. If that is the script, then Donathan could very well be the one that profits from the war because he is the one player shown to be playing with both Chris and Dominick.

Then we had Jeff’s nauseating pontification: “Turning points are where strong players shine and weak players fail.” Of course, the cameras showed us Donathan when Jeff talked about the “strong players” and then James when the “weak players” were mentioned as if to underline the stated “fact”. More accurately, I’d say that turning points have often put strong players in untenable situations while weak players wound up in powerful positions. There really isn’t a steadfast rule as Jeff wants the viewers to believe.

One more thing for those who don’t believe the players are following a script; women very often wear their buffs as tops but when it comes to a swap, none do. Either they always guess correctly or they are told what’s going to happen!

1- Domenick:


It was funny to note that, as soon as Dominick said it was time to get dirty, we had a scene of Donathan washing himself. That is the editor’s way of contradicting Dominick. Another way that the editors contradicted Dom was inserting the smile and the little laugh from Libby just after Dom said she had to go almost as badly as Chris. Will Dom get distrated by having two targets and miss his chance to vote out Libby? It certainly would make Libby laugh.

It seems that Dominick is still too focused on his enemies. He didn’t have a choice when Chris put the target on his back but Libby wasn’t a threat to him. What's more troubling is that we have been introduced to the sad story of Chris' mom yet we continue to hear Dom refering to Chris as a SOB. Also, we haven't really seen anything evil from Libby so Dom is shown to be wrong in both cases. Either they lose a challenge and she is voted out or they both make the merger and then he could have used her for a few votes. Dominick has proven that he is a strong player but he is creating too many obstacles for himself. When you vote out “enemies” they rarely turn around and reward you with their vote in the end. The jury will be starting soon and Dominick needs to cater to their feelings, not turn them against him.


2- Wendell:

What we heard from Chris and Sebastian told us just how great Wendell’s social game has been. Sebastian even saw him as a buddy even if they rarely talked. Getting some distance from Dominick will do wonders for his chances of advancing in the game. Before he would have been the natural choice for the second choice in a split vote tactic to deflect Dominick’s idol but now someone else could fill that spot.

3- Donathan:

There was a funny moment at the end of the Immunity challenge when Jeff was ready to give the bottom half of the immunity idol to Naviti. Domenick, who had been the caller, stepped up to receive it but Donathan beat him to it. Will the game turn out the same way? Could we have Dominick doing everything to win it but Donathan just taking it away? He is one of the few Malolos that could slip through the cracks. There’s certainly has been a lot invested in the kid’s story including a ready-made heroic scene.

4- Laurel:

Laurel is another that could slip through the cracks if Naviti turns on itself before getting rid of all the Malolos. We know that production is unlikely to let that happen so there is still hope for the volleyball player who also has a strong social game. Her words also tell us why there is no such thing as the Anti-Darwin Syndrome. In fact, Chris, like many other strong guys before him, is tolerated as long as he helps win challenges but his poor social interactions will get him voted out as soon as he becomes dispensable.

5- Libby:

So, Libby is Parvati 2.0 according to Dom. The problem is that Parvati only thrived when she had the numbers. Libby will have a hard time slipping through the cracks because everyone sees her as untrustworthy.

6- Jenna

There isn’t much to say about Jenna except that she is mingling nicely with the new tribe. It could take her far but there isn’t the same investment in her story as in Donathan’s or even Laurel’s.

7- Kellyn:

Last week I called her wishy-washy so I laughed a lot when Kellyn couldn't answer Jiffy's simple question about playing with your head or your heart.

Jiffy saying he liked that answer told me he had completely forgotten about Lex's gut! The only reason why he keeps being "scholled" by player sis because he has a faulty memory of his own show.

What I noticed however is that, by constantly showing their interactions, it paints Kellyn as our Host’s favorite and that means she must go a long way. Kellyn has a better social game than all her allies and she can claim some moves, especially in keeping Naviti together.

8- Michael:


Instead of asking James if he had talked to Angela, maybe Michael should have talked to Angela himself and done it well before losing the challenge. She was always the key to the vote and she would have needed to hear from Michael to vote with him and James.

When we got to Tribal Council, Michael made me laugh by saying he votes with his heart! If anything, we’ve seen that Michael is a heartless player. Michael didn't have to vote for James. If Michael wanted to stay in the game then he would have needed a promise from Kellyn and Desiree that they'd vote against Angela the next time around. After all, like he said, he isn't playing to simply make the merger but to win. That would have meant making a Final deal with those two right there and then. If they had agreed then he could have said he'd vote for Angela without hurting them.

Michael impressed me up to the time when he completely misread Naviti while playing his idol. Bradley's reaction should have told him not to change to Stephanie. Still, I couldn't really blame him. But since then, he's been pedaling hard on a little bike trying to catch up and messing up. For one thing, why hasn't he been looking for the replacement idol? Voting first for Stephanie and now for James shows he has absolutely no loyalties so why would a new alliance trust him? All he's doing is making it easier for Naviti by being their puppet.

9- Angela:

The first we saw of Angela, she was hugging Kellyn after the tribal swap. That hug seemed genuine so maybe those two were closer than we saw when they were first in Naviti. The way the camera focused on her far away eyes when Kellyn said she couldn’t trust her didn’t paint a good picture of Angela. I think we’ve been cheated out of getting to know an interesting character. For the suspense of the episode we couldn’t be told what Angela was actually thinking but that left a big hole in the story of the ex-Military woman. Instead of seeing a determined person, we are told that she may not be all there and that’s a pity.

10- Chris:

Quite appropriately, Chris' talk with Laurel was aaccompanied by the kooky musical theme. Chirs is the "beneficiarary" of the "Dumb Player" Edit.

Contrary to his own opinion, it certainly isn’t his charisma or even his athleticism that put a target on Chris’ back it was his atrocious social game and his total lack of self-awareness.

11- Bradley:

Bradley's thoughts about the swap were accompanied by the appropriate festive musical theme. Up to now, the game has been a party for the lawyer but things should change.

If we reconstruct the original Naviti alliances we now know that Bradley, Dominick, Wendell and Morgan were together while Chris was solidly backed by Sebastian and Angela. We’ve never heard anything definite on Kellyn, Chelsea and Desiree but I would guess by the way they worked together after the first swap; Kellyn was in Dominick’s corner while Chelsea and Desiree, who were much more reserved towards the lawyer, were more with Chris. It is said that pride comes before the fall so the “Fantastic” Bradley is nicely set up for a huge fall.

12- Chelsea:

Even this marginal character had her personal crying scene which truly makes this season a soap opera. She does have nice green eyes though.

13- Sebastian:

His scene with Wendell told us that it isn’t difficult to get on Sebastian’s good side. That isn’t a good trait to have in an evil game like Survivor.

14- Desiree:


Once more, the voting decision came down to a Malolo leaving over a Naviti and once more the least developed character from Naviti stayed. Hopefully something happens to turn the tide because this season is already losing all interest.

Watermelon translate to "pastèque" or "Melon d'eau".

Booted - James:
He wasn’t a fan favorite but he certainly had been presented in a better light than Desiree.

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5. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
With so much to squeeze in one hour, why waste time listening to a post-TC Michael tip his cap to Naviti after proactively putting forth a valiant effort to turn the tide and coming up short. Had he been the tiebreaker...a whole different story. Steph was a dead duck with or without his vote. He (and Malolo) gave it the old college try, they were not successful, so you acknowledge the victors and put yourself in the best position to fight another day.

If you tell us you’re bored—we believe you. Honestly, we do. You don’t need to prove how bored you are by typing us a post intro titled: Hercule Poirot meets Rene Descartes in an attempt to make the rest of us bored with those silly permutations.
Rather than fart around with spun “possibilities,” how about acknowledge each player selected a secretly wrapped buff? Oh that’s right...then you wouldn’t have a “murder mystery” to solve. HaHa

Castaways on Survivor and HGs on BB I’m sure are told how to dress appropriately for upcoming challenges/competitions. This is NOT rigging a season and I do not regard it as a “script” because the players are not told specifically what the challenges are. Case in point...with the Ep. 4 RC involving wrestling matches in the water, there had to be some assurance that the female castaways would not be walking up wearing their buffs as halters unless they wanted numerous wardrobe malfunctions with all the grappling in the water. And players would need to be properly dressed for any challenges taking part in the water. You’re not going to see Stephanie wearing her striped leggings in a water challenge.

So NO it’s not about “guessing correctly” and NO they are not told what exactly is going to happen. No female castaways walked into the Ep. 4 RC wearing their buffs as halters, so I do not believe they knew about the swap because they were walking into what they thought was another RC in the same fashion.

Still searching feverously for those album cover clues to verify Paul is dead. LMAO!

What Laurel’s “words told us” was when a player specifically notes another castaway’s vanity and self-absorption as the reason for being targeted, it is because of his/her obnoxious interactions. Likewise, when players “words tell us” they fear the physicality and the prospect of winning multiple challenges down the road, they are targeted because of the Anti-Darwin Syndrome. It is very, VERY real.

Oh, there’s no doubt in my mind Kellyn COULD have given Jeff the “head” or “heart” answer he was trying to draw out of the players. She smartly did not. Jiffy already hooked four fish who took the bait. Kellyn CHOSE not to bite, thus earning the Host’s admiration. So, if she truly is “out Host’s favorite,” it is a distinction she earned.

What flavor Kool-Aid were you drinking this episode to say Angela was the “key to the vote?” LOL. Three Navitis to two Malolos...three women to two men...not for a NY second was I believing Michael would forge anything with the other male player he voted to boot on Day Six after just spending over a week with Kellyn and Desiree. Kellyn, Desiree and Michael all had James as their #1 target. And should Malolo go to TC again, it would serve him well to stick with Kellyn and Desiree to target Angela.

I also did not agree with Michael’s “heart” answer. From what we’ve seen, he has shown a far greater effort playing with his “head.” Perhaps his “heart” answer mirrored his “23” age revelation? Good poker players will not reveal their hole cards and be elusive when pressed for some information, i.e. Kellyn. Of course, the other approach is to falsely say you have 2-7 off suit when you’re really hiding stronger cards, i.e. perhaps Michael??

So James inability to dive underwater in a game located on an island is “’presented in a better light” than plentiful TV footage of Desiree’s pasteques???

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7. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
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If you look back at the good seasons, the ones before Cook islands, we never started an episode at the challenge arena. There was always something interesting to show in camp, especially listening to the tribe explaining their vote. The players were the stars of the show. Now, it's the Probst show and we get a scene with the "star" right away. BORING.

Aren't you just a little suspicious that, in order to carry the story of "Malolo being the worst tribe ever" we wind up with 3 tribes where the original Malolos are in a minority when there were quite a few better possibilities. Not only that but the actual Malolo, the one that counts for our "star", is the one that has 2 men and 3 women. Did you even notice that? Like I said, it's almost as if they want that story to be true all the way to the merger and maybe even the end. Unless they are setting up another of those incredible come backs.

OK, so now you are basing your "theory" on the words of Chris, possibly the least self-aware Survivor we've ever seen!! Good one! If Chris is voted out it will be because he's dumb, not because of your ADS.

How was Probe trying to draw out an answer and how could that answer hurt the person that gave it? James was a dead duck and nothing that was said could change that. If anything, showing her "smarts" could put a target on Kellyn. How is that really smart?

FRom what I heard, Michael wanted to vote with James and Angela so she was key to their success. If you believe that Michael was voting with Kellyn and Desiree all the way then he's an even bigger puppet than I thought.

James certainly had a better edit than Desiree. For one thing, we never heard him complaining which she did about the Malolo camp, the switch and her horrible IC performance. James never played that pity card. He was presetned as the one who got Malolo together to vote out Morgan. We also got to hear his personal story, one that showed us he was a very determined young man, coming back to America alone at age 16. We haven't heard anything about Desiree's background. The funniest thing is that Desiree, in the pre-season, said that her pet peeve was complainers!!


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10. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
Naturally, it’s “boring” for you because you’re not as much a fan as I am of proactively controlling one’s destiny through challenges. Conversely, I’m not a fan of MTV Real World on an Island. Actually, my sister and nieces feel (so far) this has been the best season we’ve had in years. I’m not agreeing with that, but also not as critical as a champion for the weak and inept might being viewing GI at this point in the season.

Non-conspiracy theorists tend to be less “suspicious” than those who conjure up conspiracies and rigged scripts to support their agendas. I’m no more “suspicious” of the even gender distribution anymore than being “suspicious” of how heavily skewed the Yanuya tribe is for physical challenges. This swap did not have a gender disparity, yet in B vs. W we saw Vytas as the only male among all women after a swap. Last season the two players involved in the “willed” idol (Ryan/Chrissy) united after the swap because they selected the same color buff. This season the two players with knowledge of the Legacy (Morgan/Stephanie) did NOT unite because they selected different color buffs. That’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Any suspicious set up would involve castaways’ intervention. The “whistleblower” risk is far too great...and please do not throw the “signed agreement of secrecy” in my face. Jim Early and Russell Hantz proved it is not worth the paper it is written on. Precedent has been set!

When have I based anything on Chris’s words?
I’m basing it on Laurel (and Wendell) words when they clearly stated if Chris gets the boot it is because of his annoying narcissistic interaction. When voters clearly state they are targeting a player for fear of challenge dominance and athleticism, it is the Anti-Darwin Syndrome.

Answering Jeff’s question at TC was more revealing about a player’s game in general. A straight-forward answer could provide others a read into you are who you are. An elusive answer keeps others guessing.

If I was Michael, I would want to join forces with Kellyn; and if I was Kellyn, I would want to do the same with Michael. One would not be the other’s “puppet.” I could see both as a formidable duo going far in the game.

Just because James had more “air” time, does not mean he had “better” time. Yea...Yea...James has a personal story to share...yadda...yadda…yadda... So does Chris; so does Donathan; so does Kellyn; so did Stephanie...and so on...and so on... Ho, Hum *yawn*

Bottom line, James legacy this season will be failing miserably in the water and Donathan overcoming his apprehension to save James sorry ass on his failure. Desiree’s is, and will be, her pasteques. I’d rather watch Desiree’s pasteques than James debacles...but hey...to each their own.

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11. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
It's funny that you think I champion the weak and inept. It's as if you want to prove to the whole virtual world of lurkers (maybe 2 or 3 people!) that your opinion is the right one. I've always been on the side of players with strong social games because well, this is a social game. You may like the athletic leader type but it's rarely the smartest way of playing the game. I guess that's why you invented the Anti-Darwin Syndrome to explain your favorites' failures but when you look at this from the social perspective, you'd see where your heroes actually failed.

If you took away your blinkers, you'd realize that there have been way too many random events that work perfectly for production not to think they tip the scale. It's also funny that someone as ignorant of the spoiler world as you would take one comment about Missaye and Hantz and think you've struck gold. The fact of the matter is Survivor has always been much more concerned about production secrets being revealed than about Spoilers. In fact, production, like we saw in the promos this season, often spoil future events but contestants are always accompanied by staffers to make sure they only answer the right questions. Had they sued Hantz he would have been able to reveal ALL those production secrets especially the way he got help finding idols without clues. That's why they didn't go forward but they certainly made sure he'd never play again.

You wrote "when they say they are targeted for winning challenges then it is ADS..." and it was Chris who said that he was targeted for winning challenges, ergo you are basing your "theory" on Chris.

A smart-aleck answer to Jeff's question like the one Kellyn gave would certainly provide others a read on who you are.

I'll make it simple for you: The puppet is the one that votes in such a way to favor his manipulator. Kellyn wanted Stephanie and James gone, Michael obliged, ergo he's her puppet.

There are pasteques on the Playboy channel if you want to see some. James had a much more interesting personal story than Desiree and once more the more interesting character left which is a big reason why this season is boring.

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I need not prove anything to anyone. You have been championing the weak and inept. I will always be partial to the proactive competitor. The Anti-Darwin Syndrome became a sad reality due to Production casting. I’ll tell you this...if Survivor was a game with 20 social butterflies fluttering their wings for 39 days, NO WAY we’d be watching season 36.

If you removed YOUR blinkers, you would have to acknowledge any conspiracy, Production secrets, rigged scripts, blah, blah, blah that would have to involve player intervention would have been exposed by whistleblowers by now. Still “burying Paul” with Hantz I see.

Are you really reading exactly what I posted??? I’ll repeat one last time, when the VOTERS cite physicality and challenge domination it is ADS. Chris is unable to vote for himself, so what he said is not applicable here. Another example of your spinology unsuccessfully trying to put words in my mouth.

You honestly think Jeff would tolerate a smart-aleck answer at HIS expense? There was nothing sarcastic or smug in Kellyn’s answer. The wheels on your bus keep SPINNING round and round.

Michael wanted James gone at the second TC BEFORE the swap and BEFORE he even had a chance to interact with Kellyn. Those would have to be some mighty LOOOONG strings to extend over to the other tribe on Day Six. LMAO. I’ll make it simple for you...Michael’s votes were NOT NEEDED for either of the Steph and James boots. Had Kellyn and Naviti NEEDED Michael to vote their way to eliminate their target, then I would be able to see you halfway. Fact is, they were not needed for Kellyn or Naviti, ergo NO puppet. Every vote Michael casted was for Michael.

Let me tell you little secret...there are FAR many more “personal dramas,” hard-luck experiences,” and “sob stories” on TV than pasteques on the Playboy channel. And I do not subscribe to Playboy because it is a “Premium” channel with my cable carrier. Remember...I live in a “Puritan” nation. HaHa!

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I've been championing people like Chrissy, Jay, Aubry, Kelley and Sierra over the last few years, Kim, Boston Rob and others like them previoulsy so hardly weak and inept. I always go by what I think the edit is telling me.

Like I said, it was Survivor that decided not to sue Hantz and, in exchange, he hasn't blown the whistle. Why do you have a hard time grasping this?

Chris said he was going to be targeted because of his challenge abilities but Chris doesn't realize that he's seen as a jack@ss. Practically ALL your supposed victims of ADS also behaved like Jack@sses.

Michael went along with the split vote tactic in case Jacob had an idol, so he clearly didn't want James gone but was protecting himself and others just in case.

The fact that Michael's votes WERE NOT needed is exactly WHY I say he's an hypocritical turncoat. Had they been needed THEN maybe I'd see it as tactical but they weren't. So he's just making it easier for his enemy like a good puppet.


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Edit, Schmedit...”Turn me on Dead Man!”

Why do you have a hard time grasping there’s NO way EVERY contestant on Survivor would keep tight-lipped all these years if there was merit to even a fraction of the fixes, manipulations, and rigged scripts you continuous cry foul over when you are not satisfied with an outcome.

If a challenge threat is targeted for being just that, why bring up how they behave when it is NOT their behavior but their dominance being specifically cited for getting Anti-Darwined.

How do you know for sure??? Who are you? Mr. Jim Early? And who is Michael? Russell Hantz? James sucked in the water and was the reason Malolo went to TC. His name was written down accordingly by Michael.

Michael’s votes have been tactical for MICHAEL. He’s been trying to pull his own strings this whole season.

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21. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
Players love the game so they know the only way they'll get reinvited is to behave. Why make an enemy of SeeBS when they could acocmodate you in so may reality TV shows or even web shows? And by the way, there have been some players speaking out, hinting of foul play. Amanda for one, said at the end of Heroes Vs Villains that she'd gotten sour over production's actions.

But if those challenge threats were good social players they'd be in the majority and wouldn't even be targeted. When you have big guys in the majority it's the smart way to play to get them out right away. As far as I know, acting smartly isn't going against Darwin.

The players specifically said they were using the split vote tactic in case Jacob had found an idol. Only Stephanie knew for sure he didn't have one but she kept quiet in hope of getting the legacy advantage.

Michael can't win so his tactics weren't good.

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2. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
Most of these guys don't deserve a ranking, but for some an rank is beginning to materialize.

Materializing as head of the class:

Kellyn: Impressive TC response to a unimpressive question. She keeps making decent decisions, I have her in the F3.

Laurel: likewise, her confessionals are lucid and logical. F3 too.

Jenna: I like her chances. He name does come up, but in an offhand manner, not as a real hated target. May be bumped when her team goes to TC and there is no consensus for a better target, but could conceivably float to thru the merge and to F3.

Libby: Placed here because I just want to think she has a chance, and so far hasn't done anything to hurt her chances except not kowtow to Dom like he thinks she should.

Not materializing as anything, yet, on the fence for me:

Michael: Has shown a talent for not getting voted off, nut mostly because he's a guy and has a certain amount of dumb luck. He also has a degree of survival instinct, and an ability to make the most of bad situations.

Donathan: Likable guy, open and honest. Doesn't make enemies but doesn't have much in the way of athleticism, except maybe as a swimmer. On the fence for me.

Chelsea: A nonentity. Finally had a heartfelt confession, possibly a prelude to an upcoming eviction.

Desiree: Seems intelligent, but sulky when things go bad. She could easily have been evicted last TC after Probst emphasized what losers she and James were. To go to the end she needs a smarter game plan than lying around the shelter bemoaning her fate.

Materializing as someone who can never make it to the end:

Angela: Inflexible in her thinking, a bad sign in a game where thinking and acting on ones feet is an essential talent. She’s going to get someone three shades of pissed off at her before she can be four shades of pissed off at them.

Bradley: Oh wait, he’s already fantastic! Boob (not the good kind).

Chris: Most people do think models are dumb, Chris, and that’s because models think like you think. Which is self-congratulating dumbitude.

Dom: Definitely smarter than Chris, but that doesn’t mask his obvious deceitful nature.

Booted: James. Long time coming. He didn't screw the pooch this week, but that refusal to dive had him on the hit list, even if it had to come at a time when he didn't do anyting in the immediate week to really deserve it.

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3. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
I'd want you to be right about having 2 malolos in the F3 but the odds aren't looking good at all. Especially if Kellyn is also there at the end because she's been the most closed minded about working with Malolo. It's almost as if Boston Rob got in her head about talking to the other side! And speaking of Kellyn, didn't Jiffy ask for a one word answer?

Angela could very well be taken to the end while Dom is working hard to make it there. With two idols and maybe more on the way, I think he has better odds of making it to the end than you think. I do agree on Bradley and Chris though.

And you forgot Sebastian and Wendell. They aren't the biggest characters ever but they are more visible than some of the women out there.

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Sticking with my rankings for now. Don't know why I omitted talking about Sebastian, he's the perfect lampoon target. But Wendell is forgettable, so far.
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6. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
From my vantage point I’ve seen Michael screwed over by every swap, so to see you say he’s had a “certain amount of dumb luck” is surprising. I would credit his calm demeanor and ability to come up with proactive options to address these adversities well beyond his 18 years as the primary reason he’s still playing...more than luck.

Do I think Dom will win? No. But I have to agree with Michel that he’s got a better than average chance to “make it to the end.”

With Episode 6 that just aired you assess Wendell as “forgettable?”

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8. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
With all 4 Malolos looking for the idol at the same time, Michael was lucky to be the one that found it. Naviti wasn't going to risk voting for him. Then, it was luck that sent Stephanie to Ghost Island which gave Michael extra time to throw her under the bus and cosy up to the enemy. Finally, while the second swap wasn't as favorable as it could have been, it put this collaborator in a position to betray one more of his original team mates in favor of the enemy. So, I'd say it was mostly luck and disloyalty that got Michael here.
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9. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
Due to how Michael presented the HII at TC, whomever Naviti targeted was a risk. Given your persistence to beat a dead horse, I’ll repeat Naviti chose wisely and won that fight. Kudos to them...Michael and Jenna acknowledged and reacted accordingly.

So, the American Revolutionary War ended because the British “Red” coats were really “Turn” coats? LOL

The American Civil War was fought by an undermanned, underfinanced, and undersupplied Confederate Army who not only held its own against the Union Forces but were actually winning the war! Despite these disadvantages, the Confederate troops had one of the greatest Generals in Robert E. Lee leading the upset. In the end, the lack of resources and manpower were too much to overcome and Lee, who put forth a valiant effort, acknowledged the Union’s victory and surrendered at Appomattox. Using your comical rationale, Lee threw the Confederacy under the bus. *SNORT*

As thought provoked as your humorous spin is, Michael had no allegiance to the player he wanted gone on day six. Obviously, he was savvy enough to not let James know how much at risk he was. Michael was placed in that position due to an unfortunate luck of the draw, yet he used his ability to adapt to stay alive. Well done, young man!

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12. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
We first had the Nazis, then the Japanese imperial army now we have the British army, the American revolutionary army, the Confederates and the Union forces! Why not add Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great, Napoleon and Attila the Hun while you're at it! I'm a history buff so please, don't think you're teaching me anything I don't already know.

The one good thing about Michael is that he HASN'T surrendered so all your analogies FAIL miserably. To his credit, he is still playing to win. I completely disagree with his tactics but at least he's still fighting.

Look at it this way: You saw that Michael was ready to vote against Stephanie, a close enough ally that he gave her an idol, so ask yourself: Would you trust him in your alliance? You'd have to be dumb to think he wouldn't do to you what he did to Stephanie and James. Therefore I'd be voting my puppet out as soon as his vote isn't needed.

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When the British surrendered, was that the LAST battle or war it EVER fought again? After the surrender at Appomattox, the USA never entered another war or battle? Being a history buff yourself, you already know the answer. NO, they closed that chapter and moved on...to fight again if necessary. Hence, those appropriate examples do NOT fail miserably; they drove home the point you refuse to acknowledge.

Michael pulled all the stops to save Stephanie and Malolo, yet came up short. Close the chapter and move on...and moving on is what Michael has been doing. So, you say vote out Michael “as soon as his vote isn’t needed.” His vote wasn’t needed to boot Stephanie, and his vote wasn’t needed to boot James. Last I looked, he’s still in the game.

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18. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
OK, let's go into a bit of History: Japan hasn't entered into any armed conflicts since WWII. The Confederates have never risen against the Union either. The Brits certainly didn't consider the Napoleonic wars as a continuation of the War of Independance. It was a completely new "season"! When Michael comes back to play a new season then I'll judge him from scratch and hope he'd mature. For THIS season, he's an hypocritical opportunist. If Naviti keeps the numbers up to the merger, I'm sure Michael will be one of the first targeted.
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20. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
And the wheels on your bus keep spinning round and round. Fortunately history books are not written by Spin Doctors. The Brits had numerous battles/wars in their history after they acknowledged the Colonist’s victory...just as I (and history) stated. When the Confederacy surrendered everyone because USA again, and as I (and history) stated, USA had numerous battles after the Civil War. Those are clear cut indisputable facts despite your futile spins.

Michael is a strong, physical player...like DUH...of course he’ll be among the first targeted after merge.

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Avoiding getting booted in successive TCs despite being in the targeted minority is what I was referring to as surviving due to a certain amount of luck. His actions at the TC when he wasted his HI, although admirable, also added to his vulnerability then and after, so not to be booted then was pretty lucky for him.

I agree that in addition to being somewhat lucky, he's also been somewhat smart. Even though he misplayed that HI, his thinking then was laudable.

Even with the tribal swap, he still has to be pretty nimble and lady luck will also have to continue to favor him, even more so when they get to the merge, the point where traditionally the less athletic survivors tend to get paranoid and band together to vote out the strong guys. I think the dispassionate Vegas odds makers would not put Mike in the top six.

R.E Lee was an amazing general, he had some amazing help, and an amazing run of success. A true hero of the South and in my opinion, a true American hero. But it just goes to show, even the best can slip up, and it only takes one mistake to turn the tide, as he did when he sent Pickett to charge the Union line at Gettysburg. That cost Gettyburg for the South and they were on the defensive after that. It turned the war in the East. It might be said that he was probably doomed anyway after Lincoln finally appointed a competent General to command the Union forces, US Grant, who was the greatest General in that war, IMO.

It could be that in spite of Mike's clever thinking, and his winning the initial battles, his one mistake of giving Stephanie that HI might be his Pickett's Charge. That's a bit of a stretch right now, but I like the analogy, and it puts an additional thematic burden on Mike. The Ghost of Robert E. Lee,

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16. "RE: S36 Ghost Island Ep 6 Ranking"
The “Ghost of Robert E. Lee.” I like that! I’d be surprised if Michael does not make the merge. Assuming he does, THEN he would need a reversal of fortune and some luck would need to complement his proactive play to go deep into the game. Spot on post-merge call with the weak and inept ganging up on the few strong players…usually a factor at that stage of the game. Top six would be an appropriate under/over line for Michael this season.

Tough call who to give the idol to. Historically, the side with the numbers usually targets one who the majority feels 1) unlikely to find the idol on their own, and 2) generally a less threatening player thinking the holder of the idol would not want to “waste” it on a weaker castaway. That was the thinking at the prior TC when Morgan was sent packing. Can’t be too critical of Michael for using that rationale. Conversely, if he thought Naviti would, in fact, target a stronger player, he would almost have to use it on himself and Brendan still goes home.

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