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"Lost- characters"
Let's post here to discuss the characters on the ABC show Lost.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 The Korean couple PepeLePew13 10-10-04 1
   RE: The Korean couple Smooth23 10-11-04 2
       RE: The Korean couple dabo 10-11-04 3
   RE: The Korean couple littlemisssmartypants 10-11-04 6
   RE: The Korean couple J Slice 10-11-04 11
   RE: The Korean couple tvhead 10-12-04 15
       RE: The Korean couple PepeLePew13 10-12-04 16
 Kate AugustGirl 10-11-04 4
   RE: Kate littlemisssmartypants 10-11-04 5
       RE: Kate PepeLePew13 10-11-04 7
           RE: Kate blacknwhitedog 10-11-04 8
               RE: Kate Smooth23 10-11-04 13
       Not anymore... IceCat 10-11-04 14
   RE: Kate shakes the clown 10-11-04 12
       RE: Kate littlemisssmartypants 10-12-04 17
 The Characters PepeLePew13 10-11-04 9
   RE: The Characters PepeLePew13 10-11-04 10
 Locke blacknwhitedog 10-14-04 18
   RE: Locke geg6 10-14-04 19
       RE: Locke Swami 10-14-04 20
       RE: Locke SurvivorBlows 10-14-04 21
           RE: Locke miamicatt 10-14-04 22
               RE: Locke Angelfood 10-14-04 23
                   Ooops zombiebaby 10-14-04 26
           RE: Locke survivorscott 10-14-04 24
               RE: Locke miamicatt 10-14-04 25
           RE: Locke Swami 10-15-04 27
               RE: Locke SurvivorBlows 10-15-04 29
                   RE: Locke dabo 10-18-04 30
                       RE: Locke Swami 10-18-04 31
                           RE: Locke dabo 10-18-04 32
           TPS report blacknwhitedog 10-15-04 28

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PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "The Korean couple"
zombiebaby brought up an interesting question on the other thread... what's the significance of the Korean couple and why are we seeing them the way they've been shown so far? There *must* be a reason behind it!

For example, the husband is always trying to control the wife and telling her to button up.

Then later on, we see the guy running through the forest and coming to a stop in front of the Korean woman who's topless.

What kind of story is going on here? Is she a 'man' dressed up as a woman? Or does she have the ability to speak English but the husband doesn't, and he is trying to control her lest she goes to talk to the other people and make him feel left out? Etc.?



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2. "RE: The Korean couple"
Probably a completely insignificant tidbit, but when I was watching it with my dad the other day he mentioned that he thought the Korean girl seemed actually happy to be caught with her top off.

As for the english thing, wasn't another person talking to her at one point? I know we never heard her respond, but maybe that was a clue that she does speak english.

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3. "RE: The Korean couple"
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/bios/yunjin_kim.html

She's a Korean actress.

An accomplished actress who has already made a name for herself in Korea — and all over Asia with the film Shiri — Yunjin Kim is making her mark on American television with Lost.

Kim was bashful as a kid, so she decided to get over her shyness by taking drama classes in the seventh grade. She was immediately cast in a musical and fell in love with the theatre.

Her Korean feature film credits include starring roles in Ardor, Yesterday, Iron Palm, Ginko Bed 2 and the Japanese film, Rush, as well as roles in the television weekend dramas With Love and Wedding Dress, and the miniseries Hunch and Beautiful Vacation.

Kim was the Goodwill Ambassador for the 2002 World Cup in Japan and Korea, representing Korea. While born in Seoul, Korea, she grew up in Staten Island, New York. She attended the prestigious High School of Performing Arts in New York and received her BFA in acting from Boston University.

Kim resides in South Korea with the love of her life — her 14-year-old dog, Tobi.

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10-11-04, 09:09 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: The Korean couple"
I think that they are there as a cultural foil. They have been shown as nice enough (the Korean man tried to find food for the others, stroked her hair lovingly at the end). They are just culturally different in their approach to the situation. The Korean culture is far more modest than the American culture and I am sure that it will provide for drama throughout the season. Particularly since the woman has shown signs of wanting to rebel!


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10-11-04, 12:20 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: The Korean couple"
Michael's talked to her twice. Once while asking for help in the dog-search... (she didn't respond, of course), and once when she was topless.

I'm not sure if this means anything.


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10-12-04, 02:45 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: The Korean couple"
aren't they japanese ???

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10-12-04, 03:36 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The Korean couple"
No. The ABC site clearly says "Korean", plus their names are Korean, not Japanese.



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10-11-04, 06:35 AM (EST)
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4. "Kate"
She told the rancher she was Canadian. Is she? Or was that just to throw him off?

Any speculation as to what her crime was? I don't think it would be something major like 1st degree murder, but perhaps manslaughter or embezzling? I imagine she is one of those misunderstood criminals who broke the law because it was the "right thing to do".


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5. "RE: Kate"
She also told him that her name was Annie. However, the presence of the US Marshall leads one to believe that she is actually American.

And don't you know, we Canadians do tend to get treated nicer in other countries, which is why we all proudly wear our Canadian flag when we travel!

I think we will probably find out that she did something that can be construed as noble. It seems the US MArshall was a bit in love with her and was chasing her down as a personal vendetta.


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10-11-04, 09:48 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Kate"
That's a thought about the personal vendetta...

It's worth noting that an US Marshal would be involved if it's a crime that occurred in the USA, regardless of where Kate is from.



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10-11-04, 10:16 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Kate"
I don't know that much about US Marshals, but aren't they involved in capturing fugitives that commit Federal crimes?

The Marshal also said she was dangerous? I said in the other thread maybe she was a terrorist or involved with terrorists.



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13. "RE: Kate"
We haven't even established that the person was the US martial at all. I still think that he was a bounty hunter.
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14. "Not anymore..."
'... And don't you know, we Canadians do tend to get treated nicer in other countries, which is why we all proudly wear our Canadian flag when we travel!...'

The French think that Canada is part of the United States and treat us like crap, too.

But they make some damn fine cheese, tho!

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12. "RE: Kate"
>She told the rancher she was
>Canadian. >
>Any speculation as to what her
>crime was?

....isn't that a crime in itself


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10-12-04, 05:16 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Kate"
Actually, we've decriminalized being Canadian here in Canadia. Among other useful things, also decriminalized.


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9. "The Characters"
I'm still having a bit of trouble remembering who's who, so here is the list of actors playing which characters.

Matthew Fox - Jack
Evangeline Lilly - Kate
Ian Somerhalder - Boone
Dominic Monaghan - Charlie (was also Merry in LOTR)
Jorge Garcia - Hurley
Maggie Grace - Shannon
Malcolm David Kelley - Walt
Naveen Andrews - Sayid
Harold Perrineau - Michael
Josh Holloway - Sawyer
Terry O'Quinn - Locke
Daniel Dae Kim - Jin
Yunjin Kim - Sun
Emilie de Ravin - Claire



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10. "RE: The Characters"

Evangeline Lilly - Kate

Funny thing... she's Canadian in real life, just like her character in the show.

FYI, I got all of these pics and names from the ABC Cast Bios page.


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10-14-04, 11:28 AM (EST)
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18. "Locke"
People are just not what they seem on this show. I love how they are revealing a little about each character one episode at a time.

So Locke was apparently paralyzed until the plane crash and now he can miraculously walk. He's been kind of living in his own fantasy world until now. On the island he can walk. Maybe he's not too eager to get rescued. Probably not Kate either.


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19. "RE: Locke"
This was some fascinating stuff with Locke last night. I'm so happy his story wasn't some stupid thing about how he's some sort of nut case (which is where I thought it was going). 'Course, I think he still is kinda nuts, but this explains it better than any of the things I was coming up with to rationalize his weirdness. However, it does not explain his backgammon remarks about black and white/light and darkness that seemed so important. I still think there will be something that remark foreshadows that we have not yet seen.

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20. "RE: Locke"
But. Why did the monster look down at Locke, and then pass him up? Was monster full of fresh piglet?

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21. "RE: Locke"
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The backstory also failed (I think) to explain his "Colonel" nickname and the wierd "is this line secure" phone call at the office.

Or was the phone call supposed to be an imagined fantasy sequence and the nickname something that coworkers gave him due to his wierd workplace behavior? And if so, what happened four years ago to damage his legs? Black ops military operation? Car accident with a soccer mom??

Anyways, did anyone else catch what I assumed to be the "Office Space"-inspired "TPS report" comment that the jerky young manager made to Locke during the first flashback? I love this show...

I do think it's kinda wierd that none of the survivors remember Locke being wheeled onto the plane in a wheelchair and yet suddenly walking among them normally. I mean even if they forgot, his wheelchair has been hanging around the campsite for days now and apparently being used as a utility cart of sorts.

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22. "RE: Locke"
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LOL! I'm so glad someone else picked up on the TPS thing -- I laughed so hard! Sure hope he put a cover sheet on that...

Honestly, my reaction to the "Colonel" thing is that it's merely related to the board game he and his co-worker are playing. I believe he was speaking to his co-worker on the phone and it's kind of like a "Dungeons and Dragons" dealie where they get really REALLY into playing the game. Roles and such.

I also believe Locke has been in a wheelchair his whole life, but I have nothing other than my gut to back that up. (Well, better my gut than Lex's I guess, haha)

We'll have to see....man, I love this show.

Edited to add: Don't wheelchair passengers get put on the plane as part of that "pre-boarding" process? Perhaps he was put on the plane early enough that the other passengers didn't spot him or pay attention. Just a random thought.


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23. "RE: Locke"
>Honestly, my reaction to the "Colonel"
>thing is that it's merely
>related to the board game
>he and his co-worker are
>playing. I believe he
>was speaking to his co-worker
I like that theory! I was thinking Helen, but it does make sense that his coworker would play-along, and they were meeting at 1300 in the lunchroom! Brilliant MC!

>>other than my gut to
>back that up. (Well,
>better my gut than Lex's
>I guess, haha)
whose isn't???

>Edited to add: Don't wheelchair
>passengers get put on the
>plane as part of that
>"pre-boarding" process? Perhaps he
>was put on the plane
>early enough that the other
>passengers didn't spot him or
>pay attention. Just a
>random thought.

my thoughts also. Usually tho, he'd be up front without the wheelchair, just in a seat (unless there was first/business class in the front)! Possible explanation - lame one, but possible.

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26. "Ooops"
I said the same thing about the wheelchair in the other thread. I did not read this one first!

Sorry for the dupe!

Also he has to be a little "off" if he bought a ticket for Helen. Anyone who thinks a phone sex operator would go away with a customer has delusions.



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24. "RE: Locke"
At first i thought he may have been a soilder of fortune, but then I realized it had to do with the board game.
But maybe that is where the injury came from. as for being in the chair, he said to the walkabout guy, that he had been dealing with it for four years.


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25. "RE: Locke"
That'll teach me to drink and watch "Lost" at the same time.
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27. "RE: Locke"
I do think it's kinda wierd that none of the survivors remember Locke being wheeled onto the plane in a wheelchair and yet suddenly walking among them normally.

With the wheelchair-bound I think most people look at the chair and not the person using it. People in wheelchairs always complain that people avoid eye-contact and conversation with them in public places.

Other passengers may assume that the wheelchair was part of the planes "service" gear. It doesn't look like an expensive or personalized kind of chair. Very generic and just like the 'courtesy' wheelchairs airports offer to people needing them.

Also, the door is left open for one of the minor players to "remember" in some future episode.

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29. "RE: Locke"
>Also, the door is left open for one of the minor
>players to "remember" in some future episode.

That sounds good -- as does the explanation that the "colonel" "secure line" phone call was actually some lame joke about playing Risk during their office lunch hour

But it's still unclear as to what caused him to lose the use of his legs four years ago

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10-18-04, 02:59 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Locke"
http://www.mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/chap5/

STRESS, TRAUMA, ANXIETY, FEARS AND PSYCHOSOMATIC DISORDERS

http://www.mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/chap5/chap5d.htm#a

There are other major problems with the idea of trauma causing some long-term psychological problem. First, is the fallacy of the single cause, i.e. the tendency to overlook that the victim may have lacked the adaptive coping skills that were needed to handle the crisis, i.e. the individual may have had a predisposing vulnerability to some traumatic situation. Second, the identified traumatic event may have been merely a part of a complex "sick" environment, as when childhood sexual abuse occurs in a generally unhealthy family environment which had failed to provide the child with the confidence and skills to recognize, confront or avoid the abusive situation or to deal with it after the abuse was ongoing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosomatic_illness

The mind has a powerful influence over the body—this power is sometimes called the power of suggestion—and it is quite possible for a person to feel extremely physically ill without any real physical reason, especially if they suffer from an anxiety disorder.

And as an aside, there's the historical John Locke to think about:

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/philosophers/locke.html

"Though the familiar use of the Things about us, takes off our Wonder; yet it cures not our Ignorance."


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31. "RE: Locke"
I figured it must be psychosomatic.

This show likes to fill in backstories, and a traumatic event in Locke's past would sure be a nice backstory.

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32. "RE: Locke"
LAST EDITED ON 10-18-04 AT 05:44 PM (EST)

Yes, and it fits his personality, which is what I found in reading several sites about the subject. There is a great wealth of material in the Locke character in both how he's written and portrayed.

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28. "TPS report"
yeah- that was priceless


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