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"Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

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goldie1000 1087 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"	05-14-08, 10:56 PM (EST)
"Now I know this show isn't fixed...."
BRAVO WITNEY !!! Over the last few years alot of people said this show was fixed because a Plus-sized model had not won. Well finally the day is here Way to go Witney! You go girl I am so happy for you. You deserve it, and you looked stunning in that hot pink gown. I look forward to seeing you in ads, and on the runway. Our two runners up, will also be great models. "Great Finally" America's Next Top Model! What was with Tyra's super thick mascara? She looked like a racoon..
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Enyo 20 desperate attention whore postings
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05-15-08, 00:06 AM (EST)

1. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

LAST EDITED ON 05-15-08 AT 00:12 AM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 05-15-08 AT 00:10 AM (EST)
About two mins before the show started, I clicked on the wrong link on my web browser and came here and saw that Whitney had won, lol. Whoopsies.
I personally don't think it proves the show wasn't fixed. Another way of looking at it is that they were going for controversy and were wanting Whitney to win all along. Honestly, I don't remember there ever being a season where they were so supportive of a plus size girl.
I am curious though.. outside of the prize, who will get more modeling offers, Whitney or Anya? I think Anya. I am also curious how many of the winners have gotten work outside their prize contracts period. Anyone know?
Anyways, I would have chosen Anya. It has nothing to do with being against plus size or anything like that. I just think Anya looks like a model in person and in her pics, and I can see her being in a photo in Vogue, which I can't say about Whitney.
Oh.. also possibly Tyra was trying to represent plus sized-ness after her letting herself go, getting pics taken that made her cry, and wanting to represent that bigger people are pretty too.
Oh #2.. did you see Whitney's stop??? She did do a great job with her runway walk. Really great.

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realityshowgeek 176 desperate attention whore postings
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05-17-08, 01:12 PM (EST)

11. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

>
>I personally don't think it proves
>the show wasn't fixed. Another
>way of looking at it
>is that they were going
>for controversy and were wanting
>Whitney to win all along.
>Honestly, I don't remember there
>ever being a season where
>they were so supportive of
>a plus size girl.
I must agree with this statement. This is the first time I believed the show's winner was decided beforehand. Every week they were so critical (justifiable) of Whitney, yet she wasn't booted off. When she was in the bottom two the 2nd time and remained I figured this was the year of the "plus sized model" to win.
>Oh.. also possibly Tyra was trying
>to represent plus sized-ness after
>her letting herself go, getting
>pics taken that made her
>cry, and wanting to represent
>that bigger people are pretty
>too.

Now this line made me laugh out loud. During the finale I believe Tyra made mention of her age being 34. I can only say, I wish I had "let myself go" at 34 like Tyra. Lets see....
1. An internationally known former supermodel.
2. Host of a successful talk show (although not my cup of tea, but to each it's own)
3. Creator and producer of a hit reality show
4. Still considered beautiful at whatever size she is currently.
My God, how tragic...there should be a benefit concert for her. LOL

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05-17-08, 01:21 PM (EST)

12. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

Yep, given she is usually listed as being 5'10" tall I think the 165 weight I heard as a "let herself go" is still well in the healthy range for BMI.
At my height you can say 165 is "let go" because I'm short, but at her height it is a lot healthier to be 165 pounds than the below normal BMI you need to have to wear "sample size".

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05-15-08, 07:13 AM (EST)

2. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

I disagree that seeing a particular type of model winning in a given year proves/disproves the show is "fixed".
I do think Tyra et al. have their favorites every year and often the mistakes they make are not seen in the same light as the unfavored ones and they are often praised more than I think they should be. Sometimes we have the same favorite, sometimes we don't.
But that is human nature, not specifically rigging the show to make sure a certain type of model cannot ever win.
I do think Whitney was strong enough to keep bringing it to the competition in ways other plus size models haven't in the past. Usually I do see them fade part way through the competition because it is tough on them in ways that aren't going to be a problem for the typical model types.

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05-15-08, 08:23 AM (EST)

3. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

I think it is great. Whitney will get a lot of work....look at Tocora, she did really well after ANTM. Anya will also do well. She is stunning.
At least the fashion show was better. Not like that lame thing in China last year. Still, the fashion shows are not nearly as good as they used to be. They used to be much bigger events.
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ginger 22511 desperate attention whore postings
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05-15-08, 11:33 AM (EST)

4. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

LAST EDITED ON 05-15-08 AT 11:35 AM (EST)
There are a lot of rumors floating around that Whitney was approached by ANTM, rather than trying out, and they suggested she gain weight for her participation in the show. There are pictures of her MUCH slimmer out there. Not saying this is gospel, but it rings true to moi.

At least this was a better win than Tootie's. I still say Tootie's gotta be Tyra's niece or something. She just sux.

And even though I wanted Anya to win, she would have been another tough voice to hear for a season of "My Life as a Cover Girl." Jaslene and Danielle were bad enough.

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05-15-08, 02:57 PM (EST)

5. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

Wow, she looks amazing. She is thin in these pictures, yet healthy and athletic looking. But what about "all of my life the mean girls have made fun of me." She was on Regis and Kelly this morning and was very articulate and had very nice things to say about Anya.
I actually liked Anya better as a model, but her voice was very odd. Although when you think about it, most models are seen and not heard anyway. And even beautiful, gracious Paulina's voice may not have been the best when she first started.

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ginger 22511 desperate attention whore postings
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05-15-08, 04:46 PM (EST)

6. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

More not-so-plus Whit:

Lovely. Not a plus size. I think the rumors are correct. Fourfour is the site that had the whole scoop initially, I think.

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05-15-08, 06:52 PM (EST)

7. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

Honestly, I don't know why I watch this show anymore. They should rename it to "America's Next Preselected Top Model With Some Other Girls Who Think They Might Win But They Are Only There For Drama."
I don't think I'm going to watch it next time around. I mean, if Tyra has to make a girl gain weight and then lie about her life struggles because of it just to make her feel better for gaining weight, fine. I'm just not going to watch the rigged show anymore.

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05-16-08, 03:44 PM (EST)

9. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

Yeah, I know I sound stupid here, but are you really sure that's Whitney?
Of course, I think last season was "rigged." Maybe this one too. But since it doesn't include viewer voting or contestants voting, it's not a total scandal. I think this trend has definitely gone way up the past three seasons (coinciding with the lame runway shows. compare the cycle 2 or cycle 4 runway shows with more recent ones).

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ginger 22511 desperate attention whore postings
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05-16-08, 05:46 PM (EST)

10. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

Well, here's where I got the last shot. You have to scroll a ways but it's worth it because you will see tons of shots of former ANTM contestants, then and now.
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/23449254.html
When you see the last "skinny Whit" shot I posted next to the face-only picture of her (brunette at the time), I think the conclusion that it is, indeed, Whitney in that last skinny shot. I have no actual idea though - I'm just cruising the web reading about crap reality tv like everyone else.
All reality shows are fixed to some extent at this point. On the other hand, last season's show did such a poor job of justifying the final selection that it made me want to stop watching. And as you know, I've been a huge ANTM fan since its inception. This season felt almost as stilted. It may be time to call it a day.
Of course, they still have to pre-select and Asian winner. Next season?

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trigirl 2844 desperate attention whore postings
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05-16-08, 08:01 AM (EST)

8. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

But what about "all of my life the mean girls have made fun of me."
That comment at the end of the show seemed so planted to me at the time. I mean seriously, she is maybe a size 10. She would have been one of the mean girls. I thought at the time she was just playing up what Tyra wanted her to play up but now I am not so sure.
I hate it when my bubble gets burst!
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ginger 22511 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-08, 11:44 AM (EST)

13. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

From People:
Thompson, who at size 10 is small for the plus-size market, now has the Top title and -befitting any new celeb-an internet mini-scandal. Photos of her in what bloggers estimate is a size-4 bikini surfaced after her May 14 win. Rumors alleged that a show staffer asked her to put on weight prior to taping. Says a CW network rep: " never asked Whitney to gain weight in order to appear on ANTM." Had they asked, "I wouldn't," says Thompson, adding that the photos "are from tenth grade, when I was a size 6." In college, she went up to a 10. "I've never been a 4." Nor does she aspire to be. "I've gotten so many emails saying, 'I admire your confidence,'" says Thompson. "That's the best reward." -Kristin Mascia
If you are a size 6 in 10th grade and a size 10 in college, why would all those mean mean girls be teasing you?

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05-22-08, 11:49 AM (EST)

14. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

"If you are a size 6 in 10th grade and a size 10 in college, why would all those mean mean girls be teasing you?"
Oh lets give her the benefit of doubt. Maybe all the other girls in her school were like Jaslene? You know, size -100.

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Snidget 43862 desperate attention whore postings
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05-22-08, 11:59 AM (EST)

15. "RE: Now I know this show isn't fixed...."

Well a size 6 is a lot larger than it used to be. I couldn't wear a 6 in high school and now I'm starting to get into 8's when I weigh 40 pounds more than then.
That and the standard seems to have changed, a lot, in the last decade.
Even with size inflation a 6 was a thin girl not all that long ago. Now if you are anything over a 2 you are considered fat by a lot of people. I think it was Jennifer Love Hewitt that mentioned how skinny everyone seems to be getting because a lot of times she is the "fattest" one on set and she's usually a size 2 or 4.
Funny how as America as a whole got fatter what is considered stick thin has gotten a lot thinner.

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