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"Disappointed in Kevin"
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"Disappointed in Kevin" |
I totally lost respect for Kevin tonight. It seems that he is only forthright when the finger of blame isn't pointed at him.
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11-05-04, 00:40 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
Since I like Kevin, I will hope that he was just trying to squirm out of the fact that he was to blame for getting the contractor.This was a BIG deal for Trump, and since Kevin did not get axed for it, I am hopeful that Trump is hangign on to Kevin until he either screws up in an even worse way, or makes the final 4.
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11-05-04, 01:16 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
I still like Kevin too but he did make a HUGE mistake. He was really proud of himself for "thinking outside the box" or whatever he kept repeating. Kevin's lucky Raj made more mistakes this episode. If I HIGHLY recommended someone for a job (which is what Kevin did -- he really pushed to hire that guy) and that person turned out to be a disaster, I'd more likely be out on my a55.
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11-08-04, 04:30 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
But the reason he recommended that guy was because he was recommended by the realtor in the area (Kevin went to the realtors to find a contractor -- a great idea), so the whole thing smells of a huge set up. K.
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11-08-04, 05:51 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>But the reason he recommended that
>guy was because he was
>recommended by the realtor in
>the area (Kevin went to
>the realtors to find a
>contractor -- a great idea),
>so the whole thing smells
>of a huge set up. We heard that the contractors told Raj they would get back to work as soon as they finished their tacos. We also heard that the contractors told Raj the bathroom was finished and when he got upstairs the bathroom was not finished. Is it possible that Trump, who wore a bowtie during the boardroom, needed a reason to get rid of Raj and set up this task to nail Raj? Last year when Amy and Nick secured the highest buyer at the last possible minute seemed highly suspect. It's almost as if someone wanted an excuse to get rid of Troy before Amy.
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11-09-04, 02:48 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
That's exactly what I thought. Apex would have been in the same situation if Andy hadn't found those extra contractors just driving around. That was a total set up. I wouldn't have been surprised if Mosaic's contractors were told to fail on the project. Also, they had $20K -- How the hell do you redo a kitchen, landscape, new siding, new bathroom, new carpeting for $20K. I don't live in an area where those kind of houses sell for the kind of money they get, and I can't get all those jobs done for $20K!
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11-10-04, 12:21 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>That's exactly what I thought. Apex
>would have been in the
>same situation if Andy hadn't
>found those extra contractors just
>driving around. That was a
>total set up. Hmmm. I never thought of it, but now that you bring it up, it does look suspicious. >
>Also, they had $20K -- How
>the hell do you redo
>a kitchen, landscape, new siding,
>new bathroom, new carpeting for
>$20K. I don't live in
>an area where those kind
>of houses sell for the
>kind of money they get,
>and I can't get all
>those jobs done for $20K!
> I don't live in over-inflated Gotham, either. I, too, was surprised at what they got for 20K. Surprised almost to disbelief.
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11-05-04, 01:29 AM (EST)
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3. "Kevin" |
I think Kevin challenged Raj, and Raj couldn't defend himself no matter to whether Kevin was right or wrong because Kevin knows that Donald is looking for someone with good salesmanship and is quick to judge.With the way Kevin was looking at Bradford, it makes me want to ask him what's on his mind.
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11-06-04, 06:35 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Kevin" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-04 AT 06:45 AM (EST)>
>
>With the way Kevin was looking
>at Bradford, it makes me
>want to ask him what's
>on his mind. If I were Kevin I would have been throwing eye-darts at Bradford, too! But that's what I'm confused about. Bradford's fierce, tunnel vision insistence that Kevin should be fired. He went on and on until DT finally shut him up. Was there bad blood between Bradford and Kevin? Bradford was like a pitbull gnawing on a bone in his single-minded attack on Kevin. What did he expect to gain? He was already fired.
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11-06-04, 07:08 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Kevin" |
<<>If I were Kevin I would
>have been throwing eye-darts at
>Bradford, too! But that's what
>I'm confused about. Bradford's fierce,
>tunnel vision insistence that Kevin
>should be fired. >>
Actually, when DT asked Bradford who should be fired, he said "Ivana" and not Kevin. I think Bradford was sticking up for Raj and was probably appalled that Kevin wasn't taking responsibility for the contractor. It didn't seem like Bradford wanted Kevin fired so much as he wanted him to take the responsibility.
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11-07-04, 01:40 AM (EST)
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18. "Did you mean shut up to Kevin or Bradford?" |
"He went on and on until DT finally shut him up."Actually, I think that was when Ivana interrupted, and Donald finally said that she was just nasty, and he told her to shut up. Kevin was throwing eye darts at both Bradford and Raj during the securing of the contractor. I'd have to ask B and K if there is bad blood between them, see how they explain it.
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11-08-04, 02:59 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Did you mean shut up to Kevin or Bradford?" |
>I'd have to ask B and
>K if there is bad
>blood between them, see how
>they explain it.
Let us know what they said, What, okay?
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11-06-04, 07:06 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Kevin" |
<<>I think Kevin challenged Raj, and
>Raj couldn't defend himself no
>matter to whether Kevin was
>right or wrong because Kevin
>knows that Donald is looking
>for someone with good salesmanship
>and is quick to judge. >>How did Kevin challenge Raj? If you don't remember, when Kevin tried to back out of taking responsibility for the contractor, Trump & Co. completely b!itch-slapped him back to reality so there really was no challenge there. Raj was fired because he made too many mistakes. If Raj hadn't changed the bedrooms from 3 to 4, cleaned up a lot better, and brought in Chris like DT wanted, he might still be here.
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11-07-04, 01:47 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Kevin" |
How did Kevin challenge Raj?Because Raj set up the contractor, but he didn't offer to step up when the contractor wasn't working fast enough, and I think Kevin could predict Raj's reaction to a lazy contractor, but Kevin couldn't predict the cameraman's translation for Trump. There was a challenge there until Trump called Kevin on his actions. Kevin was testing Trump to see what his limits were. Raj would rather be fired than offer up Chris without his own reasoning to back it up, and Trump would have called Raj on it. It would have been a lose-lose situation for both Chris and Raj. Perhaps Trump would have surprised us and fired two that week. "Kevin tried to back out of taking responsibility for the contractor." Which makes me wonder if Kevin had prior knowledge of the contractor? Why would he try to back out of taking responsibility when he knows it was all on tape? Unless Kevin thought editing would come to his rescue? Don't know for sure, I'd have to ask the contractor a few questions about Kevin.
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11-05-04, 07:01 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
I agree, Kevin was able to dodge the bullet on this one by throwing the blame back to Raj, and Raj had already accepted so much blame that is a piece of cake. Raj was dead right in his confessional, he did not attack the other strongly enough to make it stick.I remain impressed with Kevin. Like Kwame, his boardroom eloquence will get him far, and he seems to be much better organised and a harder worker than Kwame.
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11-05-04, 09:49 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>I agree, Kevin was able to
>dodge the bullet on this
>one by throwing the blame
>back to Raj, and Raj
>had already accepted so much
>blame that is a piece
>of cake. Raj was dead
>right in his confessional, he
>did not attack the other
>strongly enough to make it
>stick.
>
>I remain impressed with Kevin. Like
>Kwame, his boardroom eloquence will
>get him far, and he
>seems to be much better
>organised and a harder worker
>than Kwame.
I agree. This was the first time I really thought that Kevin could have been fired. However, thanks to Raj's acceptance of the overall responsibility AND not bringing Chris in after he made that completely UNCALLED for statement, he sealed his fate. Ivana is another lucky one. She's may be around a little longer then we'd like.
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11-07-04, 01:18 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
<made that completely UNCALLED for statementI missed the end of last Thursday's episode. What did Chris say on his way out the door? 
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
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11-07-04, 01:53 AM (EST)
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20. "It's and eye for an eye on steroids. Unless you source the pain, it will never stop." |
"Raj had already accepted so much blame that is a piece of cake."There's no shame in retreating so you can re-organize and come back fighting stronger. "...strongly enough to make it stick." - You'd have to be as destructive as a wrecking ball to make these boardroom competitors stick.. to the pavement. Everybody would be dead.
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11-07-04, 02:23 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>I remain impressed with Kevin. Like
>Kwame, his boardroom eloquence will
>get him far, and he
>seems to be much better
>organised and a harder worker
>than Kwame.
Outside of being the same race, I don't see anything remotely similar between Kevin and Kwame. Kevin screwed up this week but is much more impressive than Kwame. Trump made a comment to Andy a couple of weeks ago about defending him because he came from Harvard. It explained to me why Kwame made it so far - Trump is impressed with a Harvard education.
If anyone on the show reminds me of Kwame, it's Wes - smooth, slick guy with no real leadership ability or business sense.
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lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings
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11-07-04, 01:43 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>>I remain impressed with Kevin. Like
>>Kwame, his boardroom eloquence will
>>get him far, and he
>>seems to be much better
>>organised and a harder worker
>>than Kwame.
>
>
>Outside of being the same race,
>I don't see anything remotely
>similar between Kevin and Kwame.
>Kevin screwed up this week
>but is much more impressive
>than Kwame. Trump made a
>comment to Andy a couple
>of weeks ago about defending
>him because he came from
>Harvard. It explained to me
>why Kwame made it so
>far - Trump is impressed
>with a Harvard education.
>
>If anyone on the show reminds
>me of Kwame, it's Wes
>- smooth, slick guy with
>no real leadership ability or
>business sense.
And you were doing so we-ell with your analysis! I agree totally with your assertion that other than race Kwame and Kevin have NOTHING in common. And from what I've seen - and posted about several times - you're right on target with Andy and that Harvard degree, too.
That said, I have to take issue with your depiction of Kwame as a 'smooth, slick guy with no real leadership or business ability'. Smooth, slick? Try cool, laid back. No real leadership or business ability? Whoa! Where'd you get that from? Of all the contestants - this season and last - Kwame is/was the ONLY one who had an executive, CORPORATE job when he came to the show. I forget where he worked, but it was at the most prestigious corporation in its field in New York - even Trump was impressed that he would leave such a position to try out for his apprentice. Since the show, Kwame has formed a partnership that has developed a BILLION dollar real estate deal in Washington, D.C.
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11-07-04, 03:15 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
Sorry, we'll just have to have a difference of opinion about Kwame. During last season, nothing he did showed me that he had any business sense at all, playing a frat boy prank signing autographs at Planet Hollywood while they were losing big, unable to get a single fare on the pedicab, chose the worst possible artist when he was PM for the art episode (and suffered the most lopsided loss of last season because of it)and was saved from losing in the Casino episode by Bill's idea to target high rollers. The fact that he is part of a successful real estate partnership now I attribute to his celebrity not his business acumen. His one strength (and from what I've seen, Wes', the guy I compared him to originally) is his ability to remain cool under pressure.
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kidflash212 5051 desperate attention whore postings
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11-07-04, 03:22 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
And I forgot to mention it was his idea to sell Lemonade outside the fish market in the first episode. It was they main reason they lost.
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11-10-04, 08:02 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>And I forgot to mention it
>was his idea to sell
>Lemonade outside the fish market
>in the first episode. It
>was they main reason they
>lost. Honestly, I loved Kwame but you're right. He did mess up a lot. But as mentioned before, he stepped up and took responsibility for his actions while other's were cat fighting. I was amazed when Troy was fired instead of him.
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11-10-04, 09:40 AM (EST)
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46. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-04 AT 03:19 PM (EST)>Honestly, I loved Kwame but you're
>right. He did mess up
>a lot. But as mentioned
>before, he stepped up and
>took responsibility for his actions
>while other's were cat fighting.
>I was amazed when Troy
>was fired instead of him. Why? Almost every time Troy led or had a major part in the task, his team lost. When Troy won, it was when he duped Katrina. Then Troy tried to fraudulently dupe a sophisticated businessman on national television, during the task that got Troy fired. Bill clearly distanced himself from Troy's "style" during that particular task. Trump's guy that was replacing George for that task acknowledged that Troy could get Trump into a lot of trouble. Troy was fired because Troy was dumb enough to commit an act of fraud on national television without thinking about the legal implications, something Kwame, Harvard/Gold & Sachs, would never have done.
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11-10-04, 11:51 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>>And I forgot to mention it
>>was his idea to sell
>>Lemonade outside the fish market
>>in the first episode. It
>>was they main reason they
>>lost.
>
>Honestly, I loved Kwame but you're
>right. He did mess up
>a lot. But as mentioned
>before, he stepped up and
>took responsibility for his actions
>while other's were cat fighting.
>I was amazed when Troy
>was fired instead of him.
>
First of all, Kwame did not 'mess up a lot'. That is a crock. I do not remember the details of each challenge, but I do remember the lemonade one. That was the task where SAM, Season 1's Raj, got the bright idea to sell glasses of lemonade for $1000. He was the only contestant that sold nothing. And yet you blame the loss of that task solely on Kwame (don't recall if he was the one who actually suggested the fish market location, but I'll take your word for it). If anyone should have been fired that week, it was Sam. As to Troy being fired before Kwame, that is your opinion. I don't share it, millions of people don't share it, and the one person who mattered, Trump, didn't share it, either. Also, this painting Kwame as a 'screw-up'. I don't get it. According to you, every single loss the men had was the fault of Kwame. Another first. And, not true. Why anyone would try to throw dirt on the competency and achievements of another (whom they profess to 'love') is a mystery to me. You can't rewrite history - we were there.
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11-10-04, 02:31 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
I don't believe I ever stated that Kwame was the reason the men lost - but all my examples did happen. As far as the lemonade episode I place the blame with Kwame because Trump did so - He said the location was a bad idea. But Kwame did make the deal for the ingredients. Sam's idiotic $1000 cup of lemonade idea didn't have much effect on the outcome. It would have been hard for the men to win that task anyway - the girls had the benefit of being able to flirt their way to sales (Maybe the guys should set up in Washington Square Park in Greenwich Village where they could have used their sex appeal to sell). I do think Kwame should have been fired for the art episode - it was the most lopsided loss of the season and he chose the artist. I've always wondered if Omarosa hadn't stormed back into the boardroom if the outcome would have been different.As far as Troy goes - He seemed more of a con man than a business man. The kind of guy I expect to find working a booth in a carnival trying to trick you into losing your money on a rigged game. I was surprised he lasted as long as he did. But I disagreed for Trump's reasons for firing him - If a college degree was required to win why was he on the show in the first place?
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11-07-04, 05:48 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
The fact that he
>is part of a successful
>real estate partnership now I
>attribute to his celebrity not
>his business acumen. His one
>strength (and from what I've
>seen, Wes', the guy I
>compared him to originally) is
>his ability to remain cool
>under pressure. Yep. We're going to have to have a difference of opinion on Kwame. Continuing with the difference: Your assertion that the only reason Kwame was able to pull off a BILLION dollar deal in real estate is because of his (15 minute) celebrity on The Apprentice. So does that mean that Ruth, the sweet Amish girl on Amish in the City can get savvy businessmen and women to front her a BILLION dollars to build a shopping center/community because of her totally likeable 15 minutes of fame? Or one of the (like Kwame!) losers on Survivor, The Amazing Race, or even The Bachelor can pull together a BILLION dollar deal based solely on their having been on TV? Sorry, but I find it highly dubious that based on 15 minutes of loser status celebrity that anyone, sane or insane, would back someone to the tune of ONE BILLION DOLLARS without confidence based on experience, in their brains, ability, and business acumen. Oh! As for Kwame being just 'a part of a successful real estate partnership'? The parters did not seek Kwame out - Kwame sought out and convinced them to join HIS partnership. Kwame is integral to the partnership, not just a 'figurehead'.
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11-07-04, 03:23 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>Of all the contestants
>- this season and last
>- Kwame is/was the ONLY
>one who had an executive,
>CORPORATE job when he came
>to the show. I forget
>where he worked, but it
>was at the most prestigious
>corporation in its field in
>New York - even Trump
>was impressed that he would
>leave such a position to
>try out for his apprentice. Agreed. Goldman Sachs, http://www.gs.com/ >Since the show, Kwame has
>formed a partnership that has
>developed a BILLION dollar real
>estate deal in Washington, D.C. Agreed. http://www.kwamejackson.com/
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11-10-04, 07:57 AM (EST)
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44. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>Outside of being the same race,
>I don't see anything remotely
>similar between Kevin and Kwame.
>Kevin screwed up this week
>but is much more impressive
>than Kwame. Trump made a
>comment to Andy a couple
>of weeks ago about defending
>him because he came from
>Harvard. It explained to me
>why Kwame made it so
>far - Trump is impressed
>with a Harvard education. If that's the case, then why did he fire Pamela who also has a degree from Havard?
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11-10-04, 12:33 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
Trump is impressed
>>with a Harvard education.
>
>If that's the case, then why
>did he fire Pamela who
>also has a degree from
>Havard?
Because Pamela is no suck-up Carolyn. And she's no wet behind the ears, Andy, who looks at Trump like he's God.
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11-05-04, 09:21 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
Thanks for starting this on Spoilers, since it was prior to the show airing on the West Coast.I've moved it to General Discussion, so that other folks can jump in the discussion.
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11-05-04, 12:00 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-05-04 AT 12:01 PM (EST)Lost respect? I think that's a little harsh. Kevin has been absolutely great throughout this ordeal. He clearly needed to take responsibilty for recommending the contractor and he did at first. However as PM, Raj ultimately had to make the decision that they would go with him. Secondly Raj compounded the problem by deciding to make a four bedroom home into a three bedroom and add a bath that didn't get finished. Now that was a stupid decision and that's why Raj got fired. I think any one in Kevin's position would want to save their job and I respect him for doing that. Who in their right mind would asked Trump to fire them for making a recommendation? Not many.
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11-05-04, 12:21 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
Raj got fired cause he like so many others didn't take the OUT the Donald left him. When Chris opened his big mouth and made those statements you could tell The Donald was ready fire him on the spot.At the end of the day, Raj was fired for taking a 4 BR house and making it into a 3 BR house which would only sell to a single person and at that someone who probably was never planning on getting married or having children. Only once has someone taken the OUT that Donald has left them and unfortunately that person was ivannathrowupwheniseeher and now we have to see her yet one more week.   That's right , you're fired..get out already
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11-05-04, 04:56 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
"it into a 3 BR house which would only sell to a single person and at that someone who probably was never planning on getting married or having children."That's really not true at all. I agree that Raj did make a big mistake in diminishing the number of rooms, but almost EVERY family I know, no matter how many children, has had a three bedroom house. I've lived in 2, with my parents and a brother.
All the same, I do think most people would prefer 4 bedrooms to 3, no matter how big the master bedroom is. It's space versus privacy, and you really only need so much space to sleep in. 
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11-05-04, 05:14 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>"it into a 3 BR house
>which would only sell to
>a single person and at
>that someone who probably was
>never planning on getting married
>or having children."
>
>That's really not true at all.
>I agree that Raj did
>make a big mistake in
>diminishing the number of rooms,
>but almost EVERY family I
>know, no matter how many
>children, has had a three
>bedroom house. I've lived in
>2, with my parents and
>a brother.
>All the same, I do think
>most people would prefer 4
>bedrooms to 3, no matter
>how big the master bedroom
>is. It's space versus privacy,
>and you really only need
>so much space to sleep
>in. We agree with everything you just said, but have you found the time to get ahold of the research and studies, we were talking about, yet? ;)
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Alag 161 desperate attention whore postings
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11-06-04, 07:08 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
<<>We agree with everything you just
>said, but have you found
>the time to get ahold
>of the research and studies,
>we were talking about, yet?
>;) >>What's up with the collective "we?" Are you a syndicate?
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11-07-04, 04:00 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-04 AT 04:46 AM (EST)I just noticed I made my 200th post! Happy 200th to me!
Now, that felt pathetic. Anyway, RealityX, the thread your question alludes to was locked. So let's not bring it up here. Thanks.
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11-07-04, 09:02 AM (EST)
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26. "Reminders " |
RealityX - Bringing up discussion from a locked topic without the permission of the moderators is against the guidelines.amea_gari - You alerted the mods about this, with a specific comment that you didn't reply to the message...but you did. Per the guidelines, alert a mod and then LEAVE IT ALONE. I won't warn either one of you again.
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11-07-04, 01:56 AM (EST)
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21. "Is it 3:15 yet?" |
We really don't even need that much space to go the bathroom in either. I was once in a house where the extra toilet/sink was placed in an extra closet.Raj just didn't have enough time to think straight in the Amityville house.
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63_Stingray 483 desperate attention whore postings
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11-07-04, 02:43 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
I agree. What was the big deal with the number of bebrooms? A 3 bdrm house is hardly for singles only and a lot of people don't have four bedrooms even with kids. Personally, I would like a large mbdrm and three smaller bdrms. There is a pretty good rule of thumb though that the kitchen is the primary source of appeal in selling a house, followed by bathrooms and maybe a deck. Raj should have focused on sprucing up the appliances and the kitchen followed by increasing the curb appeal of that crackerbox.
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lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings
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11-07-04, 03:10 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>Personally, I would like a
>large mbdrm and three smaller
>bdrms. Not THAT master bedroom. It was a LONG, rectangular room. It was ugly. The 2 rooms looked to be about 9X12 and Raj broke down the 12' wall, leaving one ridiculous-looking 9X24 room!
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gnosis92 78 desperate attention whore postings
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11-08-04, 05:20 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>
>Only once has someone taken the
>OUT that Donald has left
>them and unfortunately that person
>was ivannathrowupwheniseeher and now we
>have to see her yet
>one more week.
>two - if apex loses, chris is toast. yeah i wondered what ivanna was thinking when she heard chris open his mouth.
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Alag 161 desperate attention whore postings
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11-09-04, 10:15 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>two - if apex loses, chris
>is toast. yeah i wondered
>what ivanna was thinking when
>she heard chris open his
>mouth. She was thinking "OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG."
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11-11-04, 09:36 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
I am so sick of Ivanna playing the model, quiet American... She is secretly racist (notice her treatment of Staey J?)
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lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings
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11-11-04, 11:43 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>I am so sick of Ivanna
>playing the model, quiet American...
>She is secretly racist (notice
>her treatment of Staey J?)
>
Even though the subject of Ivanna and Stacie J. has been worked (almost) to death, what brought this on?
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11-15-04, 02:07 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>>I am so sick of Ivanna
>>playing the model, quiet American...
>>She is secretly racist (notice
>>her treatment of Staey J?)
>>
>
>
>Even though the subject of Ivanna
>and Stacie J. has been
>worked (almost) to death, what
>brought this on?
Ethnic minorities are programmed to 'up' one another. Ivanna fell into that old racist tactic against Stacie. It is yet to see how she will treat Kevin.
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lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings
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11-15-04, 07:02 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin? Why ????" |
>>>I am so sick of Ivanna
>>>playing the model, quiet American...
>>>She is secretly racist (notice
>>>her treatment of Staey J?)
>>>
>>
>>
>>Even though the subject of Ivanna
>>and Stacie J. has been
>>worked (almost) to death, what
>>brought this on?
>
>
>Ethnic minorities are programmed to 'up'
>one another. Ivanna fell into
>that old racist tactic against
>Stacie. It is yet to
>see how she will treat
>Kevin.
I see you're kind of new to the board, Sim. Welcome. There is a thread on Stacie J (2 of them actually, totaling at least 100 posts, I'm sure!) You should check them out. Everything that can be said, every viewpoint given.
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banzai 556 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 05:56 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
just found out that Kevin is Ivana's ally. Why did he do that for?
See the video at the official website (Yahoo)
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phcy 23 desperate attention whore postings
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11-05-04, 06:02 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
Honestly, I think he did it because he knew the others are probably plotting against him. Since everybody loves Raj and his crazy kinks, they have to find a scapegoat. Who is a better one than Kevin, who got the contractor in the first place? So he found the person most unlikely to bind with the others- Ivana, since she is also under the attack. If Ivana, by some stroke of luck stayed until the final four, She will not be his competition. I think he made very good choices, and is smarter than Raj, Chris, and maybe even Jen M.
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11-08-04, 00:48 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
So it's Kevin and Ivana versus Jenn M. and Chris now. Interesting.
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11-08-04, 02:43 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>So it's Kevin and Ivana versus
>Jenn M. and Chris now.
> Interesting.
Isn't Chris the one who said that Jen M. acts like she's a team player but she's really not?
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lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings
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11-06-04, 06:26 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>I totally lost respect for Kevin
>tonight. It seems that
>he is only forthright when
>the finger of blame isn't
>pointed at him.
Why? Because he's an imperfect human being? The man's ### was on the line. And when all is said and done, Raj had the final decision on whether or not to accept Kevin's RECOMMENDATION. The only real disappointment I have with Kevin is that he would back a contractor 'he didn't even know' 100%. What was up with that?
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11-07-04, 01:59 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Disappointed in the props man" |
"The man's @ss was on the line."How come they never, ooops, drop their towels in those naughty bathroom-just-showered-fresh scenes? I am very disappointed in the props man that he didn't cut holes in all of the towels.
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realitychick 200 desperate attention whore postings
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11-09-04, 06:23 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Disappointed in the props man" |
Propsman is fired!
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11-15-04, 07:52 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>>I totally lost respect for Kevin
>>tonight. It seems that
>>he is only forthright when
>>the finger of blame isn't
>>pointed at him.
>
>
>Why? Because he's an imperfect human
>being? The man's ### was
>on the line. And when
>all is said and done,
>Raj had the final decision
>on whether or not to
>accept Kevin's RECOMMENDATION. The only
>real disappointment I have with
>Kevin is that he would
>back a contractor 'he didn't
>even know' 100%. What was
>up with that? YES!!!!!!!! That is what I thought, too. He was all smiling like he had inside info on the contractor!!!!
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11-14-04, 02:23 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
I don't like the way he allies with Ivana.
He defended Stacie J. and now he allies with one of the witches.
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11-14-04, 04:04 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>I don't like the way he
>allies with Ivana.
>He defended Stacie J. and now
>he allies with one of
>the witches.
Kevin was morally right to defend Stacie J., who is long gone. Kevin must now ally with Ivana if he wants to stay legally alive.
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11-20-04, 07:54 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>Kevin must now ally
>with Ivana if he wants
>to stay legally alive. As opposed to illegally dead? Heh. He's not going to be hired if he sweats that much. Sorry, but that's the bottomline.
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lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings
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11-20-04, 08:19 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>>Kevin must now ally
>>with Ivana if he wants
>>to stay legally alive.
>
>As opposed to illegally dead? Heh.
>
>some might say it's better than being morally dead. But not you, right? 
>He's not going to be hired
>if he sweats that much.
>Sorry, but that's the bottomline.
>
Don't like Kevin much, do you? And why are you attaching these little nasty comments to a post that has nothing to do with the "sweat" subject?
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11-15-04, 10:49 AM (EST)
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55. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
Kevin is really trying to stay UTR. At least Carolyn called him out on it last week.Kevin has not been the PM since epi 3 (Crest Toothpaste) and Ivana has not led since the ice cream task in epi 2. Why isn't he volunteering? Kelly and Andy certainly have, as did Chris, probably to his chagrin now.
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11-15-04, 01:35 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>Why
>isn't he volunteering? Kelly
>and Andy certainly have, as
>did Chris, probably to his
>chagrin now. Isn't his team picking names to see who becomes PM? The only reason Chris was PM last week is because he opened his big mouth (I doubt if he would have volunteered). Ivana has only been PM once and so has Jen. The other team seems to be drawing names also. IMO, none of them are stepping up the plate and sticking their neck out. The only one that comes close is Andy. 
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11-15-04, 02:12 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>IMO,
>none of them are stepping
>up the plate and sticking
>their neck out. The
>only one that comes close
>is Andy.Long live Andy. Long live his destiny.
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11-20-04, 06:16 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Disappointed in Kevin" |
>I totally lost respect for Kevin
>tonight. It seems that
>he is only forthright when
>the finger of blame isn't
>pointed at him.
RealityX on Kevin: Kevin's fashion pricing stint, his strong-arm tactics against Elizabeth, his real estate contractor woes, his leaderism fears, and Jennifer M.'s cleavage came back to haunt this brother during the Levi's task and just about knocked the sweat out of his a--. Kevin's idea to use his own team as models, because of their diversity, was key to his team's success. Kevin's big Levi's win makes Kevin and Kelly the only two players left with two or more wins as leader. Kwame's Harvard courage was politically smoother, but Kevin is a Wharton Marketing/Management graduate, an Emory MBA, and has one more year to be a Chicago University Lawyer.Kevin's brother Eric is a Brown University Chemical Engineer and a Wharton MBA hopeful: http://www.brown.edu/Students/BE/allen.html
http://www.whartonaambaa.com/officers.html Kevin's parents sold their $17 million dollar environmental engineering firm probably for at least $8 million dollars: http://www.kevric.com/news/pages/SBAaward050401.htm
http://www.kevric.com/news/pages/winter.html Kevin clearly dominates Ivana and Sandy, but Jennifer M. describes Kevin's background as "weak". Official website(s): http://www.kevallen.com.
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11-21-04, 06:10 AM (EST)
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64. "Please read the guideliens" |
Posting the same message in multiple threads is frowned upon here. Please stop cutting and pasting your comments from the Love List thread into other threads.
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