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""Don't Cross Carolyn!""
choochoo 553 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-05-04, 01:43 AM (EST)
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""Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Wow, looks like next weeks show will be a real cat fight. "Snarky" Carolyn is about to bare her claws, and pounce on the unlucky contestant. Seems the producers can't get any emotions out of George, given that he looks so uncomfortable at the boardroom meetings. Bet you he can't wait to get out of there, and back to his cushy job. Carolyn, on the other hand appears to be holding back, and sharpening her claws, waiting for her moment to shine (or strike!). I love it when MB gives us a quick shot of Carolyn's smirk, every time the losers enter the room to hear their fate. She must love this "instant tv celebrity" stuff.
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Chrissy gal 1413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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03-05-04, 02:27 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Carolyn's snarky remarks are the highlight of the show for me. I also love her facial expressions during the challenges. Tonight the camera focused on her looking disgusted at the sight of food strewn all over the table.
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realityshowgeek 177 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-05-04, 08:04 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I hope Heidi is the unlucky one she pounces on. Every one seemed to really dislike Omarosa and to be honest she was one of the main reasons I watched each week. Heidi on the other hand is super annoying, super tacky, and not easy on the eyes!!!
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-05-04, 08:31 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
In the previews, it looked like there were four people in the Boardroom, and Nick and Amy were the two sitting closest to the camera. That would mean that Versacorp's divisiveness that's mentioned in the preview leads them to the Boardroom. So, who would Carolyn most relish going after? I'm thinking Katrina or Nick. Snarky, smart, S7 Anti-Bootee Champ
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djandy 1711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-05-04, 01:33 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
When Carolyn is talking, she is looking to her far right, so it is either at Versacorp when both teams are there, or at Katrina and Bill if Amy and Nick are on the left. My guess is that she's talking about Katrina with all the previews of her having yet another emotional outburst. djandy
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-05-04, 08:38 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Why? Carolyn doesn't seem any different than any other time. Do you think MB is picking up on her popularity and trying to hype his show. I would think he should have shown more.Does anyone know if Carolyn is married??? She's SOOOO Sexy!!!
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KMan 141 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-05-04, 09:48 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Yes, she's married with two young children.
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-05-04, 01:40 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-10-04 AT 01:28 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 03-10-04 AT 01:27 PM (EST) Pity.
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-06-04, 03:58 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I think she looks like Princess Diana (when she was alive),especially when her head is lowered slightly and she looks up and over the bridge of her nose. Gives me goose bumps. Oooohh.
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Sagebrush Dan 10002 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-06-04, 05:14 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
>I think she looks like Princess >Diana (when she was alive)Ha! Glad you clarified that!
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-06-04, 06:27 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Hee hee. I knew someone would call me on that. I think Carolyn is far sexier than the contestants on the show because of what she does not show and because she has a certain air of mystery about her.
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Jims02 7407 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-05-04, 11:14 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I lvoe Carolyn.Some people give her a bad rap, but I think her assessments are funny to hear. Jims02: 2004 CMY Anti-Executee Champ
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Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-05-04, 11:18 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I'm thinking its either Katrina or Amy that she's talking to.
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rtrader 277 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-06-04, 10:52 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
The more I think about it MB uses so much misdirection, I'm not even sure this is the group Carolyn is addressing. I think back to the previews prior to last Thursday's (3/4) episode and it showed what appeared to be Heidi, Omarosa, Nick, and Amy in the boardroom together. Once this episode aired, it was clear that 'team configuration' did not exist at all. I don't even recall seeing that particular scene last Thursday.I think some of these 'groups' may have been filmed strictly for using in previews of upcoming shows, just to throw us off.
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Abbynoxious 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-05-04, 11:58 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I'm disappointed that we didn't get to hear Carolyn's comments on the boardroom circus last night. I think she's great! I'm thinking that Nick gets it next week, several times she's looked like she wants to pounce when Nick gets started. Nick isn't far behind Omarosa when it comes to overstating his abilities. But, in retrospect, she's looked like that many times with Katrina as well.
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Reeflex7 187 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-05-04, 12:46 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
When I saw her clip - "you've shown me very little so far" - or whatever it was, my first thought was it had to be Katrina. In the one project where she had her chance to shine, the apartment challenge, she was a disaster. With every other project, I just don't see what her contribution was. Not only that, but she seems a little emotional, like Ereka, which we all know Carolyn doesn't respect. She's the weakest candidate of all the ones left, with Nick probably close behind.
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dajaki 1454 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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03-05-04, 01:26 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I agree. Amy would be the least likely to get this comment as she has been an effective participant in her tasks.
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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03-05-04, 02:19 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Katrina is the weakest on her team--but during the one mission where Katrina was PM--Carolyn said twice that she was very impressed with the renovation job that the team did. (Which Katrina was soley responsible for. I do think Carolyn saved Katrina that day)I think it could be Nick. He has been shown to be dismissive to the women on his team at times. And I can see him saying something like: "How would you know? You weren't there!" to Carolyn. To the person that asked, Carolyn does run one of Donald's companies. Sort of. She's in charge of all his Golf Courses. (That's why she had an office there when they went to talk to the ladies)
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Pepito 587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-05-04, 06:13 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
It is possible that Carolyn and George might be snarky enough to misinform the Donald re the strongest candidates. In the beginning, they didn't know who was whom, but now, they may feel that don't need some bright young little upstart becoming DT's closest "protege" and possibly usurping them.They may perfer that a more middle of the road, non-threatening candidate, like Heidi, be the one to join the ranks. A cushy job is worth keeping, and Carolyn is a killer...
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leogirl_21 371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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03-05-04, 06:27 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Yeah, Carolyn says something like "You have yet to show me something." Looks interesting, can't wait to see who it is that she is talking to but quite sure that it is a female.
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choochoo 553 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-05-04, 06:36 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
There is no doubt that The Donald relies on George and Carolyn to keep him abreast of the teams activities. After all, he has admitted in countless interviews that MB & the show has put way too much demand on his time. He has a corporation to run. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he gets "subjective" advise from his underlings.That said, the disclaimer at the end of each show does say that while The Donald does consult with MB & NBC about the show, the decision to fire is ultimately his. I also think that the "apprentice" will be relegated to the back row at corporate meetings. No threat to anyone's cushy job
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-05-04, 07:40 PM (EST)
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18. "VersaCorp" |
Generally, Carolyn has followed VersaCorp and George has followed Protege. Thus, I thought she had to be talking to someone on VersaCorp, because it makes sense for her to be taking the lead with them ... after all, she's seen them in every challenge.So, if it's VersaCorp, who? Well, probably not Amy, since Amy has been on the winning team 9 straight times until this show; that seems to be a little bit more than a coincidence. My first choice for the person being reprimanded would be Bill, but it could well be Katrina: we haven't seen much from either of them. Note that we've had five straight women booted since Planet Hollywood: Kristi, Jessie, Tammy, Ereka, Omarosa. Looks like the lecture for Protege from Carolyn and The Donald had some teeth to it. But I don't think that Trump or Carolyn wants to boot six straight women, leaving just Amy and Heidi-ho. I can't imagine that it's Nick, considering that his choice of artist last week was the key factor. Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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03-06-04, 03:44 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: VersaCorp" |
My initial thought was Katrina primarily because Carolyn seems to save her toughest criticism for the women, especially those guided by emotion or who have let personal feelings/issues effect their job performance.When Katrina was PM of the renovation and apartment rental project, all she could do was pass blame in a very less-than-professional way. Lots of eye rolling, over reaction, interruptions. Ugh. And I think Carolyn's still peeved about the whole Ereka/Katrina friendship Boardroom visit that got Ereka fired. The only thing I'm not sure of is if this comment leads to the firing. I do think that Katrina and Kwame are the next two to go in some order altho Kwame seems a little safer after surviving last week.
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-06-04, 04:13 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: VersaCorp" |
Yeah, Kwame must be wearing some kind of omlet around his neck to protect him from getting fired.
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-06-04, 08:47 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: VersaCorp" |
I was just checkin to see whether anyone was actually reading my posts. You passed subman's test.
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Jims02 7407 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-06-04, 04:59 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: VersaCorp" |
Good analysis. It seems like Carolyn's comment can only go to a few people.Nick: Probably not. Although he's had his low moments, he seems to win whenever he's Project Manager. Good art decision this week. Amy: Nope. If she went, I'd be shocked. Troy: Unlikely. It was his idea to sell the water in groups instead of selling one giant stockpile. Heidi: Possibly. We've seen her work pretty hard on the apartment, but she's kinda layed low in terms of winning strategies. Bill: Also possible. He's had his moments, but he's also just kind of slid through too. Kwame: Probable. He's my pick for Protege right now. After the whole Kwame Jackson thing, he really hasn't done too much. He certainly hasn't hurt the team, but he hasn't done anything spectacular lately. Katrina: Very probable. My pick from Versacorp. It's painfully obvious that the Donald and Carolyn don't like her. Too many errors. Right now, I'm looking at a Kwame boot. Look at it this way. Every team that has a numbers majority beats the other so far. We saw the men lose 4 in a row Evened up the teams Two people left one team in a row (Versacorp? Kristi, Jessie) Evened up the teams Tammy, Ereka goes back-to-back (Versacorp again?) Evened up the teams Omarosa goes (Protege) Unless this is the week the tinier team wins, it looks like a Protege loss... Jims02: 2004 CMY Anti-Executee Champ
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speedyforme 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-06-04, 06:30 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: VersaCorp" |
i agree with your Nick accessment, as much as he might SUCK following, he CAN lead somehow and won both times, I'm kinda impressed...
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Busy Izi 22 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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03-10-04, 02:03 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: VersaCorp" |
I agree with your assesment of "the victim of Carolyn" being from Versacorp (good thinking on that one... I wouldn't have thought of that). However, I don't think that Carolyn's victim is neccesarily the one that get's fired. The person most deserving of those words I think to be Kwame. Sweetheart of a guy and a real gentleman but absolutely invisible when it comes to contribution. He's just "under the radar". But as Kwame is not on Versacorp...I think the second most deserved of the comment is Bill. What has that guy done? Just another nice enough guy who seems to get along well enough with others. He failed miserably in the apartment remodel/rental deal. Katrina ended up taking the heat big time for his failure as well. DT felt that she should have taken on the task of renting out the apartment as well as everthing else that she did. I think that that was the only thing that she didn't do. Her only mistake was putting to much faith in Bill's selling ability. Did you see his weak attempt at getting 50$ more? I felt that she was right in delagating at least one of the other duties. She did a fantastic job on that task all around. Remember, it was she who chose the winning propery (which was obviously the deciding factor in the outcome. Whoever had that property would have one.). Troy admitted that he wanted whatever property she wanted...he had no idea himself which one to choose. Troy had to trick her out of revealing which was the right property to choose and then by a stroke of luck and toss of a coin was able to swindle it. I'm not saying that it was not smart on his part, I'm just saying when it came to pure skill and know how Katrina kicked #####. Troy just did what he had to do to get ahead. He's a good trickster, and he got lucky...does that make him the better man for the job? I don't think so. I was very dissapointed with DT's assesment of that task. Verscorps loss seemed just an excuse to attack Katrina (clearly he/they don't like her). Initially I did not like her, however after that particular task, I thought she showed outstanding know how and maturity. I admit that initially I was also distracted by her age and looks...I didn't take her seriously. Anyway, based on that lengthy assesment I don't think that it can be (or what i really mean is "should be") Katrina. Nick I don't think would be in the line of fire just based on DT"s surprising "atta boy" that he gave Nick during their "private time". However, if I had to listen to him brag about his "incridible ability" one more time...I know that those would be the words out of my mouth. Who knows maybe Carolyn secretly doesn't care for Nick. I for one don't think that Nick choosing the artist in the last challenge was that big of a deal. It was just one decision. It didn't look like it was based on anything but the fact that he actually had seen the chosen artist's work and only heard about the other artist. Amy (although I don't think that she would deserve it) may draw the wrath of Carolyn just as a challenge to her apparent popularity. Carolyn may be trying to say "I don't get it" just as DT openly did when she got chosen back by Versacorp. At any rate my bet is Bill.
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-08-04, 08:26 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
I don't think it matters what George or Carolyn says, Donald will pick his next boot based on his own intuition or feeling. I remember one episode he turns toward Carolyn and says "That was a tough one" and she responded back, "No, I thought it was easy." I can't remember who was booted at that point, though, but I didn't think it was too tough a choice either.
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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03-08-04, 10:58 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
That was Ereka. I can see that being tough on Donald and not on Carolyn because Donald didn't see the breakdown in person like Carolyn did.I agree that Kwame hasn't shown anything, but he's been totally polite in the boardroom. I can't see him saying anything to Carolyn, even off-hand. It's Nick and Katrina who I think always seem to have the claws out in the board room. (I've seen a little from Troy too)
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Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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03-08-04, 11:24 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Carolyn's quote are probably misdirection similar to the way trumps "you are rude quote "was.
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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03-08-04, 11:59 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Can only be one of four people:1) Katrina 2) Amy 3) Heidi 4) Bill I personally think it would be Katrina. She has shown to be a hothead and wouldn't hesitate going off on Carolyn. Amy is also a possiblity. She could be getting a big head. hasn't been to the boardroom yet. That means she doesn't know what the hotbuttoms of the boardroom are. She may toot her own horn and Carolyn looking to put her in her place may say "I don't know what you've done". Amy showed smerk when Nick picked her back to his team and after Donald's comments. Heidi has a hot head too. She could be put in her place by Carolyn. Although Heidi doesn't seem like a bragger which I get the opinion the person who crosses Carolyn is. As for Bill I really doubt he'd be the one, but there is that slight chance. Won't be Nick, Kwamme, or Troy.
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lennon29 15 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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03-09-04, 00:15 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
Oh God, I hope it's Katrina. I actually want to see her go more than I wanted to see Omarosa (never thought I'd say that.) Do you notice how she's always pointing at people when she's arguing...it's completely obnoxious. And that whole 'Ereka is the one of the best women here" speech she made in front of the Donald made her look ridiculous...Carolyn in particular had a look of disgust. I can only hope.
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-09-04, 10:30 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-09-04 AT 10:34 AM (EST)My week's wages is that a guy is going this week. Got to keep up the diversity you know. The women will offer more boardroom entertainment as the numbers grow fewer. Is it me or wouldn't it be a good strategy for the remaining women to think "What would Carolyn do?" to continue on in the battle?
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arkiegrl 9421 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-11-04, 04:36 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
"Amy showed smerk when Nick picked her back to his team and after Donald's comments"I thought she looked really nervous and uneasy - Like Trump just put a big bulls-eye on her, and made her a target for everyone else to come after...
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shellbookwoman 64 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-10-04, 10:06 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
They should let Carolyn take over as the boss in future seasons of the Apprentice.
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Pepito 587 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-10-04, 11:34 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
>They should let Carolyn take over >as the boss in future >seasons of the Apprentice. Ha haha.. Donald would have her head on a platter before he would give up seat directly in front of the camera.
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mmm_link 426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-11-04, 12:10 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: "Don't Cross Carolyn!"" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-04 AT 12:11 PM (EST)Who's show is this? Donald Trump's? Mark Burnett's? At least one hasn't had several failures in their portfolio?
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