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"Kendra Sensitivity Award"
trigirl 2851 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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04-06-05, 10:29 AM (EST)
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"Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
This week's Kendra award once again goes to Lynne and Alex for their comments regarding Joyce and Uchenna's skill during the head-carrying detour in Botswanna. Way to go boys, just when I thought you couldn't stoop any lower, you surprise me once again.
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mrc 10113 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 10:33 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Some psoters have said it was a compliment, but knowing L/A, I think not. A Nefarious Dice Creation
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HobbsofMI 16065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 10:35 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
There is no way it was a compliment...Just like Jimmy the Greek comments were not compliment even though he tried to sell it after it got out that way. created by Syren
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Seana 5044 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 10:39 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Damn. I thought they just meant how U/J were doing well on the challenge.Mind you, I'm notoriously bad for putting a positive spin on an undeserving person's words.
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bostonrobfan 490 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-06-05, 10:45 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
>This week's Kendra award once again >goes to Lynne and Alex >for their comments regarding Joyce >and Uchenna's skill during the >head-carrying detour in Botswanna. >Way to go boys, just >when I thought you couldn't >stoop any lower, you surprise >me once again. >ITA! I'm not sure, but I think Lynn is the one making all the offensive comments. Alex seems to be the quiet one. But Lynn says enough offensive things for 3 people.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 11:17 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
From what I've read about the Insider video stuff, it's definitely Lynn that makes most of the derogatory comments about Romber, the other contestants, the natives, whomever. New from Sigs by Syren!!
Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 10:48 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-06-05 AT 10:52 AM (EST)My jaw dropped when I first heard that comment, but some of the commentary I have read here makes me look at it from both perspectives. It could have been an innocent comment based on the physical prowess of the other team - or it could have been much darker. There's no way to know. I don't think it is fair to chastise both Lynn and Alex for the comment. Only one of them said it. I certainly didn't blame Freddy for Kendra's ignorance. I think that Alex deserves the same courtesy of not being assumed to be guilty by association. Lynn, however, well, they can take him back to Gretchen's cave and just dump him down there and leave. Edited to add: Does it make a difference that Uchenna himself made a big deal about his father coming from a village where the people balanced items on their head? That Uchenna had observed this many times before? It's possible that the Racers talked amongst themselves about their backgrounds and their connections to Africa at the previous pitstop so the Happy Boys already had this knowledge. I'm not saying that is indeed the case, but last week's conversations about the editing and Romber driving past the wreck convinced me that there was more to the situation than the audience is allowed to see and that things that seem horrible at first glance have been manipulated out of context. a sig by syren
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 11:21 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I agree. I still think that it is all about context and the spirit in which the remark was intended, which we will never know.DBF, an eastern European immigrant, went to nursing school with several African American students. He was part of their circle and could use the N word with them - but it is completely inappropriate to use it outside of that context. It could be that the comment was meant in a flattering way. Or it could simply be that Lynn is an obnoxious asswipe, but we knew that already. It's not like we needed more proof. a sig by syren
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 03:20 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
*snicker* New from Sigs by Syren!!
Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
I know, I know, but I couldn't resist.
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drtantalum 36 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-06-05, 11:34 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-06-05 AT 11:34 AM (EST)Personally I think it was a rather derogatory remark I could be wrong and others didn't take it that way that's fine. However, I don't think the "they're so stupid" remark that I'm pretty dure L/A said about Gretchen and Meredtih and followed on the heels of the first remark can be rationalized in any other way other than completely rude and uncalled for. They like to pretend they are the nice guys in this competition they really really are nothing of the sort from what I've seen. Still they are running a pretty good race up to this point and working very well together.
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iatovttotx78 2645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 11:35 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-06-05 AT 11:40 AM (EST) I caught that comment too. I think Lynn and Alex are reched (sp?) people. My disdain grows for them on a weekly basis. ~Tim~ ETA: which one's Lynn and Which ones Alex? I need to know which one's evil and which one's just the sidekick. and to give creidt where its due. Fighting for peace is like fck!ing for virginity.
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bostonrobfan 490 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-06-05, 12:38 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Last night I realized that Lynn was the one making all the nasty comments. I think I could like Alex if he weren't with such an a$$wipe.Given the Tupac and Compton remarks from last week, I don't believe Lynn was paying Uchenna a compliment. I seriously doubt he would like it if someone said something similarly pigeonholing and stereotyping to him.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 03:23 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-06-05 AT 03:24 PM (EST)reched (sp?) wretched Lynn is the taller of the two. He's the evil one. Alex is the short, dark-haired one who rarely speaks. He did the roadblock last night, despite limited experience driving a manual-transmission vehicle. FTR, according to the Insider, Alex didn't want to stop at the wreck last week, showing that he's the smarter of the two as well. New from Sigs by Syren!!
Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
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iatovttotx78 2645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 04:07 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
So Alex is the cute one.... I must say that I had a moment when I was proud of him last nihgt when he was doing the road block. He handled it well. ~Tim~ Thanks for the correct spelling of that word, I felt lazy this morning and I couldn't be bothered to try to figure it out.
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warp_core breach 469 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-06-05, 12:49 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: I missed that comment!" |
I must have been completely zoned out last night, but I did not hear what Alex said about U/J... what was it? Obviously, something about them being black and being able to do the balancing challenge.
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ginger 22512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 01:14 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: I missed that comment!" |
Nope, I'm with you. I think it was meant in a "gee they kicked ##### on that challenge" context. Although certainly other comments Lynn and Alex have made in past episodes were far from innocent.Frankly, how come they were so good at that? It was as if they had practiced for weeks in advance.
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LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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04-06-05, 01:32 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: I missed that comment!" |
I agree, Femme. I heard it last night and really didn't read too much into it until I saw the boards later. If Lynn had said it and Uchenna/Joyce weren't even there, I might be more critical, but U/J were there and were kicking butt at it.What rubbed me the wrong way when they called M/G stupid OK, they've gone past a clue twice, but still... Lynn, I think, is just the type who has to put other people down. He's probably gotten it a lot himself, both from the straight world (for obvious reasons) and the gay world (he's not exactly beautiful, and the dating scene can be quite vain). Going back through the tapes, I like Alex a lot more.
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FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 02:20 PM (EST)
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I've been thinking about that comment's connotations since I heard them and immediately thought "Oh no you di'int".Consider... 1. Uchenna said basically the same thing about himself about 2 minutes later. I believe the quote was "It's in my blood." This made me think perhaps I overreacted. However, further reflection led me back closer to my initial reaction, because... 2. This isn't the first such racially charged comment we've heard from Lynn. His "Johannesburg-as-Compton" and "Don't ask Tupac" lines didn't sound as if he was going for humor. They sounded like comments made out of fear. BIG difference. 3. The comment last night was not, IMO, meant to be flattering. It was said in frustration, albeit mild, that he and Alex were unable to complete the balancing challenge. It sounded, to me anyway, like more of an "of course the black folks can do it" type of back-handed comment. It wasn't said to encourage, nor as an observation. It was said to deflect their own failure. Again, YMMV. To me, it's all about demeanor. Lynn made all of these racial comments as defense mechanisms. They're certainly not cause to check his closet for a white sheet, but they are disconcerting. They're unfortunate if not actionable. In short: Definitely racial. Arguably inflammatory. Minimal effect. He registers a 4 out of 10 on the "Am I A Racist?" Meter Fester He'd better be careful, though. One more questionable comment and he'll have Jesse Jackson broadcasting with a megaphone on his front lawn.
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ElroyJetson 586 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-06-05, 02:29 PM (EST)
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21. "To The Lynn Apologists" |
If Lynn's racist comment had come from Rob, Meredith, Gretchen, Ron, or Kelly (or Kendra or fill in some other non-minority white person here) you know you would have hammered them for it. The attitude that seems to be bubbling up is "he's a silly fun gay guy so it's ok that he can be an obnoxious racist." He's only kidding. Nope. I don't buy it. Words mean things. Frankly, I don't know how we can truly "celebrate diversity" without acknowledging our differences and unique qualities and appreciating them. -- Elroy Jetson
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LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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04-06-05, 02:59 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-06-05 AT 03:12 PM (EST)The attitude that seems to be bubbling up is "he's a silly fun gay guy so it's ok that he can be an obnoxious racist." He's only kidding. I don't recall anyone saying racism is excusable if you're gay. If any of the the people you mentioned had said the same thing, I would have drawn the same conclusion about it. If you found it offensive, then that's your conclusion drawn from your own experiences. As so many others have said, there's plenty of reasons to dislike Lynn, but I think this rates pretty low on the scale. ETA: I'll give you this. If Rob had said it, the thread on it would be about 100 posts longer than this one by now. I'm no more of a Lynn apologist than I am a Rob apologist.
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bostonrobfan 490 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-06-05, 03:15 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
"If any of the the people you mentioned had said the same thing, I would have drawn the same conclusion about it."I don't buy that for a second. Especially if it had been Rob or Ron who had said that. Posters would have been all over that comment remarking about what horrible guys they are. I agree that Lynn seems to get a free pass on his offensive comments. Rob jokes that "Meredith probably pushed Gretchen to get sympathy" and people take him seriously and rake him over the coals for it. Lynn calls them "stupid" and people only comment about how supportive he was being of Alex.
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LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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04-06-05, 04:01 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
I don't buy that for a second. Especially if it had been Rob or Ron who had said that. Posters would have been all over that comment remarking about what horrible guys they are.I'm only speaking for myself, and I think I'm better qualified to do that than anyone else. I said at the bottom that no doubt some would have been all over Rob for saying the same thing. I agree that Lynn seems to get a free pass on his offensive comments. Rob jokes that "Meredith probably pushed Gretchen to get sympathy" and people take him seriously and rake him over the coals for it. Lynn calls them "stupid" and people only comment about how supportive he was being of Alex. What free pass? There's been several threads talking about it already, the Compton comment from last week and several other things. And I also mentioned that I didn't care for the "stupid" comment in my first post. There are some who can dislike Rob and remain rational.
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04-06-05, 04:24 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
>"If any of the the people >you mentioned had said the >same thing, I would have >drawn the same conclusion about >it." > >I don't buy that for a >second. Especially if it >had been Rob or Ron >who had said that. >Posters would have been all >over that comment remarking about >what horrible guys they are. > > >I agree that Lynn seems to >get a free pass on >his offensive comments. Rob >jokes that "Meredith probably pushed >Gretchen to get sympathy" and >people take him seriously and >rake him over the coals >for it. Lynn calls >them "stupid" and people only >comment about how supportive he >was being of Alex. I agree with you bostonrobfan. (I will probably get banned from the forum here today for my comments whick will further prove my point about how things are.) There seems to be a double standard when it comes to remarks being made by one group of people v/s another. But it has become so clear to me that Lynn and Alex (Lynn more than Alex) is a racist little pig, bigot boy. Hey Lynn! Just because this is a race does not mean you have to be a racist. Lynn is not making any points in my world as to how I should view gay people, how I should treat them or what I should or should not say about them. I am a proud Heterosexual and to be honest Lynn makes me sick in many ways. Keep making those racial remarks against my people. Yes I am black and I am furious! Defend him all you want people but how can anyone defend racism with a straight face? Straight face? Or gay face for that matter. No pun was intended. You get my point. " Holy Cannoli ! "
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 04:46 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-06-05 AT 04:53 PM (EST)"Lynn is not making any points in my world as to how I should view gay people, how I should treat them or what I should or should not say about them." How about Alex then? He seems to be the more level-headed of the two. Are you really going to let Lynn determine how you feel about Alex and all other gay people? I think that Lynn is a disgusting little man. Please don't judge me based on what you know about him. (In return, I will view Omarosa as an individual, not the representative of all straight black people.) If you really think that Lynn is the prototype for all gay people, then what about Ray? He was a white prick. Are you going to judge all white folk by the prick-ness that was Ray?! Edited to add red text: Why have you decided that Lynn should affect your views of gay people instead of affecting your views of white people? Why did his gayness trump his whiteness?"I am a proud Heterosexual and to be honest Lynn makes me sick in many ways."If they're Amazing Race or character-related ways, then bash away. If you're implying something else, then yes, I am sure that you are correct that such ideas are not welcome here. For that matter, the moderators do a good job of banning all forms of hate speech, whether it is aimed against racial/ethnic minorities or sexual minorities. I've seen more folks get banned from this site for racist remarks than for homophobic ones... a sig by syren
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ElroyJetson 586 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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04-06-05, 03:48 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
ETA: I'll give you this. If Rob had said it, the thread on it would be about 100 posts longer than this one by now.You could bet your holy cannolis on it! --Elroy
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Femme 3621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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04-06-05, 07:59 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: To The Lynn Apologists" |
If Lynn's racist comment had come from Rob, Meredith, Gretchen, Ron, or Kelly (or Kendra or fill in some other non-minority white person here) you know you would have hammered them for it. Okay, it sounds to me like you are inferring that I like Lynn and Alex, and I am so terribly sorry, but that couldn't be further (or farther) from the truth. I think they are a shameful team, and as for giving Alex a free pass, nope. On the insider, when Lynn gets all fired up about Rob, Alex tries to discourage Lynn from "picking a fight" with Robb. Lynn basically tells Alex "You better have my back," and mindless, weak, I do what I am told and not what's right Alex says, "Okay." I really dislike this team and the tripe that flows freely from their mouths, and I think they are the worst gossiping, snarky, ugly teams on the Amazing Race. I should have hammered them for that reason, then, and given any other team a free pass. So, you are wrong. I am not upset about that comment because it's ridiculous logic to say that any comment that either Lynn or Alex make in regards to a black person is racist in nature because of comments they made previously. I think it was harmless and innocent. It's something I would have said. I may really, really deplore this team, but I am not going to toss allegations of racism around, no matter how unsavory they are.
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warp_core breach 469 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-06-05, 09:50 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: I missed that comment!" |
Thanks, Femme. I'm gonna have to agree with you as well. Obviously, I didn't think the comment was that big of deal seeing that I missed it and all. Heck, I was more upset over the M/G are stupid comment! Sometimes people say things that come across as totally inappropriate when in actuality their intent is not to offend. We've all done it. So yeah, I think Lynn's comment was a "look at them they're kicking a$$" comment rather than a mean-spirited one. However, I'm not making excuses for Lynn because he has said many stupid things in the past.
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Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-05, 01:56 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
When Lynn said that, I gasped out loud and covered my mouth. I was shocked.Then when Uchenna himself said something similar, it occurred to me (as it did to others on the board) that he may have shared this family history with the other contestants en route to Africa or at a pit stop. I doubt it, but it is possible. And why wouldn't he then say "Uchenna was born to" instead of "They were born to?" But anyway, there are plenty of other reasons I have to dislike Lynn (not so much Alex), so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt (even though he doesn't deserve it) and let this one go.
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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04-06-05, 03:49 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
>>When Lynn said that, I gasped out loud and covered my mouth. I was shocked. Then when Uchenna himself said something similar, it occurred to me...that he may have shared this family history...<<I had EXACTLY the same reaction. It was, in fact, initially shocking...but following on Uchenna's comment, I remembered that these people do spend time together each leg, and there's a whole lot of interaction that we never see. As annoying as Lynn has been, it wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that he gets along with the other teams (except Romber of course). I have friends that I can easily say that kind of stuff to. Upon reflection, I find the Camels & Tupac comments much more offensive. And still -- I don't think he's as bad as Kendra.
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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04-06-05, 03:53 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
>>That's because he's two-faced, and says all the nasty stuff about them behind their backs.<<An excellent point!!
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TerriBlue 147 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 02:58 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I pointed this out on the Lynn and Alex thread and I'd like to point it out here. Firstly, like so many of my fellow board members, saying someone is 'born to do something' is a pretty generic compliment. 'Born to run, born to be wild, born to play this role'...you get the drift. Since Lynn and Alex said it specifically about U&J and nothing about race or ethnicity entered into it, I think they just meant U&J were smoking the taskThe second thing which no one seems to have considered, is that Uchenna does seem to have been 'born' with something that helped him to rock the task. That something is what scientists call kinesthetic awareness - an awareness of how your body moves and how to control it. Lynn and Alex have seen Uchenna doing running handsprings, so they know he's got it. So they may have meant that U&J were born to do this because they are agile and nimble, not because they are black
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Harrison 173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 03:47 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
There is little doubt that, with time enough for parsing and rationalizing, one could somehow draw the conclusion that Lynn was actually trying to compliment his rivals with his commentary.But it's rather clear that the comment was made to convey two things (neither one being especially complimentary). First, the fact that Lynn and Alex couldn't complete the task had less to do with ineptitude and more to do with genetics. Sort of "why would we be able to do this, after all?". An excuse before the cameras. That bit speaks to insecurity, I think. Second, it sought to undermine the skill of those who did complete the task with the suggestion that they were somehow wired differently. Sort of "Well yeah, and fish can swim...so what?" A kind of malice before the cameras. That bit speaks more to a kind of true nastiness. But then, this isn't a team which has chosen to hide the fact that they are, indeed, capable of bare hatred. They have, more or less, defined themselves as the team that hates Rob and Amber the most. It's rare that this sort of presented venom would flow in only one direction.
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Harrison 173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-07-05, 11:25 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Many thanks for the welcome and kind words, Ginger.
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TerriBlue 147 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 04:22 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
It's rather clear to you maybe, but there', more than one way to interpret a comment. As I've said before, people use the term 'born to be_' all the time and there is not always malice in the remark. The journalists who called Tiger Woods a 'born golfer' are not disparaging he hours and hours of practice that TW puts into his game
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Harrison 173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 05:41 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Agreed. It was within the context of their earlier commentary that I've drawn my conclusions.I don't mean to suggest that either Lynn or Alex will be wearing white hoods, burning crosses in hand, in coming episodes- just that they have an obvious penchant for going ugly early, regardless of their target. Being nasty where people of color are concerned isn't necessarily racist, of course.(I rather resent the drawing of the race card at the drop of a hat.) It is, however, self-evidently nasty and works toward character identification, as such.
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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04-06-05, 07:53 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
>>they have an obvious penchant for going ugly early<<That's a REALLY good way of putting it. Earlier on the thread, someone also brought up that this comes off as insecurity...which I also agree with. Things not going well? Bored? Hyper? Toss off a funny(read: nasty) comment. I've known people like this before -- I knew one guy (VERY much like Lynn in every way. He was blond too.) that drove me NUTS with his badgering & picking & teasing &...urgh! I couldn't walk into a room without his getting doing a whole routine about me. I finally got in his face & told him to just leave me the hell alone! He dang near cried, he thought I was cool & fun & he was just playing. He thought I was just joking along all those times I told him to please stop. I still don't necessarily believe that the "born to..." comment was specifically intended as a derogatory, racist comment but... Lynn really should learn to watch his mouth a bit better.
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Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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04-06-05, 05:58 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I do believe too much is being read into these comments. It was just in reference to the fact that U/j were the only ones who were able to do the tasks. Thank you for giving me honor in hat form.
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Desire 48 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-06-05, 07:30 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Lynn is a disgrace to Americans. Not only is he a racist dog, he is also evil, ignorant, STUPID. RACIST DOG! You love to discriminate against other people because of there race/color, gender, age.How much lower can you go? You filthy DEMON! Hypocrite! I hope Lynn just get's fired from his job if there are any blacks or old people in his office, it won't look pretty. Lynn, you might wanna file for a job application at the Neo Nazi party in North Hollywood. I hope everything nasty you have said about other people comes back to haunt you. Out of the abundance of the heart, so speaketh the mounth.
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trudy 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-06-05, 10:10 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Probably but he could just as easily said "Wow, U/J are smokin' the balance thing". It may have been an "innocent" comment but in the long run it shows that either he doesn't think at all before he speaks (which I seriously doubt) or he did make the connection with race.
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KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-07-05, 01:03 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I tried to rationalize the comment and spin it in the best possible context- just kept coming out as an ugly comment.He is much deserving of the award. What does the Bigot Handbook say about gay people and driving (trashing) 4 wheel drive vehicles?
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fleaismycat 77 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-07-05, 01:11 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I didn't like his comment either. However, I see it more as ignorant than racist. I liked the scale someone did. I'd say it's about a four out of ten. I'd have to wonder where Kendra herself would rate. Since I tend to blabber on when I'm nervous or anxious (not something I'm proud of) I have some sympathy for Lynn (Alex?). I think he's one of those people who could befit from a little crazy glue and the mantra of "It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than open your mouth and confirm it for them." I have to say though that I'm sure I've said some stupid things because of the whole verbal diarreah thing. Sometimes the mouth gets ahead of the brain and things that sounded okay in your mind sound really bad once they are out and then you can't take them back. And lets face it, the show is going to seize on the most dramatic stuff that happens and behaving stupidly is going to get them attention. I think it's impossible to know if they are indeed racist. Words are one thing and while they might seem insensative and hint at more sinister inner motives the true test of a persons heart is in their actions, not their words. I'd be interested to hear what Uchenna and Joyce would say about his comments.
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Harrison 173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-08-05, 11:38 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
"I'd be interested to hear what Uchenna and Joyce would say about his comments."I'd guess that, if it were put to them at a reunion, they wouldn't give the matter much thought and possibly even agree to some extent as a means of defusing the situation. That's just the impression I have of Uchenna and Joyce.
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gengin 22 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-08-05, 01:21 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Yes, I could have gone the whole season without hearing foolishness spue out of fools mouths (anyone who says anything foolish, not just L/A)It should not have been said. But it was and the show allowed it to be aired. My biggest problem is that no consideration was given to the native’s feelings, lifestyle or culture. And many of the teams have made derogatory remarks about the people or life style of the natives. Regardless if they here them or not, there should be a stiff penalty when it comes to the natives of what ever country. I don't recall for sure but I think it was Rob in the previous episode (when they had to spear the swinging bag) that he called one of the tribesmen/teacher Joba the Hut or Yoda Uncalled for. And before I get accused of bashing any one couple or taking favorites, many of our racers have been guilty of offensive comments about the people of various countries. And that is unacceptable. (And we wonder why Americans are looked down upon in the eyes of other countries
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Harrison 173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-08-05, 03:40 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I agree that this was in no way meant to be insulting. Now if he had called the tribesman "Jar Jar", on the other hand...But I wonder if the "rest of the world" looks down on the United States (as has been alleged here) because of these kinds of knee-jerk and purposeful misinterpretations. Ugly, indeed.
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gengin 22 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-08-05, 03:57 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Remember that though are skin may be thickened, what may be a complement in the U.S. is not in other countries, I was not offended, but offence could be taken by the natives of various countries, remember TAR is not just aired in the U.S. it is called respect. Further more, I do not contend that TAR comments are the reason Americans are not regarded highly by others, rather it is just of an example of our superior complex, I don't think this will be the start of a UN meeting. I am just saying when in someone's home you respect there home. do the words cultural sensitivity, diversity, learning experience, walk a mile in my shoes...mean anything if so can they be applied not just to TAR, but when applicable.
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gengin 22 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-08-05, 04:09 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
Well i thought he meant Yoda, in the negative and in reference to his size and statue, the man (tribsmen) had not spoken when Rob said, we will take the Yoda looking guy. (Yes how endearing)
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bostonrobfan 490 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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04-20-05, 12:50 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Kendra Sensitivity Award" |
I vote for changing this to the Kendra/Kelly Sensitivity Award.
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