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"Carrie won????? That's B.S"
Toughy 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-26-05, 01:12 AM (EST)
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"Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
that show is so rigged, carrie was in the bottom 3, got highly critisized by all 3 judges and bo did well just about every show and was consistantly praised and then sang acapella unlike ANY A.I............... I know its because they know bo already has a career and will do fine if not better without a.i. but still they should judge the contestants, not if the fans think its predictable or not............Bottom line carrie is amazing in her own right but bo stole the show
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tarmaq 127 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-26-05, 01:36 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
What show were you watching?The only time Carrie was in the bottom three is when there were only three people left! She was always safe! Bo was in the bottom three several times. He appealed to a certain group. But not to everyone. And one great song was not enough to make people completely change over. By that time, people had pretty much made their choices. I voted for Carrie. Maybe there were more people like me than like you.
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Viewer 44 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-26-05, 02:10 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Bo was only in the bottom 3 once, and it was quite awhile back. His performances have been far superior to Carrie's in the more recent two months or so. She hasn't had a great once since "Alone," IMO, although I did like "Cryin'." She has gotten weak, particularly in the critical last two weeks although I do like her. It does appear to be rigged. When Ruben won, his hometown was the last on the concert tour. When tix went on sale a couple weeks ago, I noticed that OK was the last hometown concert date....hmmm.
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missygirl3 541 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-26-05, 11:19 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
I am not trying to be rude, What does the last stop on a concert date have to do with who won? I dont understand. I am from Oklahoma and people LOVE Carrie here. Whats the problem, Viewer???
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halfpintlemon 91 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-26-05, 10:03 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Not that I'm defending anyone or trying to be argumentative, but Bo was only in the bottom three once, to his credit.
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singmeasong 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-26-05, 04:50 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
We can always say rigged when the person we thought should win... didn't. I personally liked both contestants, but preferred to hear Carrie sing more than Bo. I think she had many great songs over the last few weeks and picked up the emotion in the songs that she had really been lacking. To me she clearly has a better voice than Bo. It simply could be you do not like her voice, which is your opinion. However, many of us love her voice, so I do not understand why you are crying "foul" just because "America" disagreed with you. If the vote was 50.5% to 49.5%...then 49.5% of America is disappointed, but the majority is happy.
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-26-05, 11:10 AM (EST)
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21. "Rest easy Bo fans..." |
EXACTLY what I thought!! (ok, after I was sad for an hour or so)It's similar to Ruben/Clay in another way too...Clay seemed to have an unbeatable fan base, but Ruben's turned out to be quieter, but faster-dialers. SO MUCH web talk has been pro-Bo...We were the louder fans, but Carrie's dialed faster. All will be well, Bo will have a great career. (Just no Christmas special, 'k?)
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-26-05, 09:25 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Someone needs to explain how that letter from 19 Entertainment went out in the UK on Sunday and said Carrie Underwood had won American Idol, what was that about?? I believe that they can manipulate those phone lines so that calls cannot get through and yet they have an accurate count to please everyone. Simon is not GOD althugh he thinks he is, this man has hyped Carrie from Day 1 and stuck to his word. It was so pathetic he even had Randy and Paula saying all of American changed their votes after her performance Tuesday, Helllloooooo who are they kidding???? Something is fishy. Bo was leading in almost every poll, he had the backing of every celebrity I saw interviewed yet the "Wooden" soldier takes the prize?? I say this girl will not be able to handle all of the hoopla she will face, it was obvious after how many weeks on television she still was like a statue.. Then the nerve of Simon to say Bo was nervous in the kodak Theatre but Carrie was at ease, please, its an insult to our intelligence.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 10:03 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Is the letter a rumor, or do they have a copy posted somewhere that can be validated as real. (let the bloggers have at they are great at figuring out if documents are authentic )Sometimes people manufacture stuff to fuel conspiracy theories because of all the attention that generates. Bo was leading in the AOL poll up until after the final Tues night Show. Weds just before the Results show Bo was behind by a small percentage (less than 1% but still behind) He had been way ahead before that. The difference may be the fan who has been watching all along vs the people who check out the finale and then decide who to vote for.
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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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05-26-05, 10:49 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
The letter is supposedly very authentic to the point that on the Fox boards they deleted all posts concerning it. It had to do with an awards banquet in the UK Sunday May 22 and it was referencing Simon Fuller winning an award. It also referenced his connection to American Idol and the last line said "American Idol, which this year was won by Carrie underwood". Little things are turning up like her being 1st on the CD, all the winners are first. 2) someone made note that her hometown Oklahoma is last on the tour like most of the winners, 3) the other night when they showed all the idols in order of elimination they showed her last? Something is just not right. I am sorry if anyone thinks Simon is that great to predict from Day 1 of auditions that she would win and never stray from it. Yet to have him insult Bo and say he was uncomfortable on that stage and she wasn't was a "travesty" not just an insult. The funny part is this was the only time when the winner was announced at one point the boos outnumbered the applause, it was loud enough to read "Boo" on the closed caption.
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 10:52 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
The letter is supposedly very authentic to the point that on the Fox boards they deleted all posts concerning it. Maybe they were deleted because the memo was totally fabricated with nothing to back it up.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-27-05, 02:14 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Yep, I'm even having a hard time googling to find out what award from what group Simon Fuller got last week.That part should be pretty verifiable, but I've had no luck with even that part of the story.
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Viewer 44 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-26-05, 10:13 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Carrie won????? " |
Absolutely an insult! The comments they made last night were so manipulative! "Bo was more nervous the night before?" Hello! He's a natural! He has owned that stage. Carrie was a nervous wreck and made so many mistakes. I really felt sorry for her. It's a shame that the obvious manipulation of the voting system put such a damper on her "win." She didn't deserve that. The audience was awed, and I really felt sorry for her.I think that without the manipulative comments, I "might" have thought the voting was legit and just assumed that a lot of the voters were tone-deaf or hated rock-n-roll, but the whole show was a circus, and it is evident that the results were achieved to AI's benefit...no matter what or HOW. Personally, I think that AI knew that Bo would be successful regardless and that Carrie needed the "title" to carry on her exposure.
I like Carrie and wish her well, but American Idol ruined what little credibility they had last night. This was far more clear cut that Clay vs. Ruben. At least Ruben always sang on key, and I don't remember him forgetting any words either.
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seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 10:39 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
I do not believe that FOX would risk fixing the votes for a given contestant to win. It would kill their ratings if it ever got out. Handcrafted by RollDdice
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Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 10:47 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: IT IS NOT FIXED! and IT IS NOT RIGGED! " |
You didn't bother to read that link, did you? Cause it states pretty clearly at the top that As of January 1st, 2005, there has been no reply to the complaint letters sent to the FCC. That means there is no FCC complaint. All this site is is the work of some individual who sent letters to the FCC. It is not proof of anything, nor, as I mentioned, does it show that the FCC took it seriously. The vote is not rigged. There was no way Bo could win. None. Carrie would have had to have spontaneously combust onstage for Bo to win, and even then she still would have gotten a sympathy vote.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 11:12 AM (EST)
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22. "IDOL is HOAX - STOP" |
You are violating our guidelines by posting the same link over and over. You've had one thread locked because it was a duplicate, and another removed for starting yet another thread about this topic. Do NOT post about it again.
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Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 10:44 AM (EST)
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13. "Bo Never Had A Chance" |
Carrie always had the larger fan base. Always. It's a more devoted fan base too, at least from the standpoint of being willing to call in and vote. Think about it - there was only 2% separating them votewise the previous week. That was with Vonzell's votes factored in. So where were the vast majority of Vonzell's votes going to go? To the singer who was most like Vonzell (Carrie), or to the singer who was least like Vonzell (Bo)? Anyone who thinks that Bo was going to capture most of Vonzell's fan base isn't thinking clearly. Bo never had a chance. I like Bo better, I think he's the better performer and the better singer, and I think he will have the better career. But Bo never had a chance.
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BriarRosie 990 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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05-27-05, 07:55 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Bo Never Had A Chance" |
I've been Bo's and Vonzell's fanbase for weeks, with Bo ahead.I did not vote for Carrie at all during her stint in the final 12, but I voted for Vonzell and Bo multiple weeks. I think Bo won by not winning, a la Clay Aiken.
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1simplyme 55 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-26-05, 10:54 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Carrie was Simon's chosen one from the very beginning. It's why they chose a group of not so good talent for her to compete against. Don't worry yourself over it. It's all up to Simon now and there is nothing anyone can do except to stop watching the show, which is what we decided to do once we recognized the trickery. We believe in good talent, we believe in may the best talent out of a group of great talent win. In this case there was no great talent.Simply put, Simply me.
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shabalaba 369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-26-05, 12:45 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
True...Clive Davis did allude to the fact that he was looking forward to making an album with Bo. It was a winning situation for Bo because now he will not be contractually bound by AI as Carrie will be for being crowned the winner. Perhaps this will give Bo more creative freedom of expression. Bo is Bo, and that does not include being a "pop" idol.
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rnabring 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-27-05, 00:14 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
From what I understand, anyone who signs up to compete in AI is contractually (spelling?) bound by the producers...see the VH1 special on AI that aired a while back this winter.
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 11:19 AM (EST)
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24. "Both great" |
I, for one, think that they are both great singers and that really any of the final 3 would have been a worthy Idol. I supported Carrie and I'm glad she won, but Bo was a great performer as well. It's like apples and oranges, these two were very different contestants with very different fan bases. Personally, I DID think that Carrie outsung Bo on both of the original songs and her final night may have put her over the top. Bo was very good in his own right, but honestly would seem to have less teen appeal - which is where this contest is won and lost.
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Tiggertramp 3141 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-26-05, 11:30 AM (EST)
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25. "I *love* these threads" |
that complain about the outcome. They are predictable, and quite silly.If Bo had won, we'd see outraged threads about how fixed it is that Carrie did not win. I just have to giggle. Carrie won, she deserved it. Both will be huge successes. The conspiracy is how many drugs they give to Paula to make her "normal", and is Simon really a producer. Funny people. Excellent siggy by JSlice, Worm by the Fab IceCat I wish I were a glow worm, A glow worm's never glum...Cuz how can you be grumpy, When the sun shines out your bum??
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Alchemist 110 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-26-05, 11:41 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
Is anyone really surprised? Simon nudged the "Carrie is the ONE" so much this season that I think he would have self combusted had it not been her. I don't know what the average ages of voters are, but if my daughter is any barometer it would be teen/twenties. I felt that Simon was influencing their votes but whatever works. He knows what sells and that age group is the one that will buy the cd's, she's a good singer but as far as the "it" factor, IMHO, she has a way to go. If I were buying cd's for my daughter I would much rather have her listening to Carrie rather then some of the "music" out there, but I'm just a parent who happens to make the final decision how my hard earned cash is spent. Bo on the other hand has a place as a pretty good lead singer but I think him having more of a sense of self-identity not so easily made over into a pop idol, if you will. All in all pretty much what it is, an opportunity to launch a singer with much fanfare and hype. Good luck to Carrie, may it be what it is. Alchemist
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niteowl 199 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-26-05, 01:20 PM (EST)
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34. "fan base" |
A couple of days ago my little one was on "kidzworld" website (probably geared to 8-14 year olds). They had voted 70% for Carrie, 30% for Bo. Guess it shouldn't have been surprising. Little kids always prefer pretty blondes over bearded guys with long hair!
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emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 12:19 PM (EST)
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28. "It looked like...." |
The Miss America Pageant at the end...all the girls hugging Carrie and she was crying and thanking everyone..I thought they were going to put a tiara on her give her a scepter and Burt Parks was going to start singing I thought I would be okay with a Carrie win, but I was quite disappointed that Bo did not win...I know he will do fine and be Clay II but it just left it a bit hollow for me...
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-26-05, 01:39 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
<<To me, what Clive said had waaay more influence than what Simon ever could say>>Ahh, to you perhaps, but not to the tweeners and teeners who have no idea who Clive Davis is.
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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-05, 11:53 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
'zactly. All they care about is that Carrie is real pretty and she has shiny hair and sparkly eyes.Bo was sunk unless every teen in the US suddenly had their television and phone privleges revoked for the time of the voting. Miscellaneous Ramblings --Bo will come out much better without winning anyway. Good for him.
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sodiumswirl 79 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-27-05, 03:40 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Carrie won????? {Thoughts on 'Vote For The Worst', and AI Vote Totals}" |
Hey... I remember reading somewhere that immediately after Anthony Federov got kicked off, the Vote For The Worst community selected Carrie as their "champion". Of course at that point there was only Carrie, Bo and Vonzell left, not to mention the fact that "worst" becomes highly subjective when examining this year's Top 3; so being crowned the worst wasn't exactly the biggest insult. Now here' the thing, I know a rag-tag bunch of web-dweebs out to spoil everyone's fun could not possibly affect the final outcome of American Idol to any significant degree; but you have to wonder, if these people are as committed as they claim to be, with some of them text-messaging and calling up to 900 votes in all... do you think they might have actually been able to further the gap between Bo and Carrie? Enough so that FOX decided Ryan Seacrest should only mention the vote totals for the entire season, but not the totals for the actual finale itself? For that matter, why didn't Seacrest mention the totals of the finale, as well as the percentage diff between the winner and the runner-up? I thought that was an AI staple. Okay, back into semi-hibernation...
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shanana banana 658 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-27-05, 09:13 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-27-05 AT 09:13 AM (EST)I don't know if I believe the show is rigged or not, but I do think the finale worked against Bo. The two original songs were completely horrible and not at all suited to Bo's musical strengths --- he did all right with them, the best he could for sure, but imagine how the finale could have turned out had he been given songs to work with that didn't sound so pre-pop manufactured. I mean, two pop-y type ballads?? I think maybe the reason Bo didn't appear as comfortable on stage as he usually did (not much running around, flipping the mike stand, etc) was because he had to work around two boring cheezy songs. They were better suited to Carrie's boring stilted style, who is uncomfortable on stage every week. Bo was getting better week by week and then was brought to a crashing halt by the lame songs in the finale. I'm disappointed for sure. Carrie has a great voice, but it would have been much more interesting and fun to have Bo as the next AI. And also, I hate that they make them sing an old song from previous weeks as well in the finale -- why? Give them the opportunity to shine one last time with a new cover song.
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phantomphan 19 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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05-27-05, 10:28 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Carrie won????? That's B.S" |
I doubt the show is rigged, but I agree with shannabanna that the finale worked in Carrie's favor. Why couldn't they let them sing what they wanted to sing? Instead of some sappy ballad, Bo probably would have won the show by singing "Sweet Home Alabama." They didn't let Bo be bo. I think if Bo would've won, they wouldn't have let Bo be bo, either. In the end, it came down to "who can make a boring song interesting." I thought Bo was more interesting, but obviously America didn't....
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Flairmarq 303 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-27-05, 10:37 AM (EST)
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41. "Bo has it better NOT winning" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-27-05 AT 10:38 AM (EST)Look on the bright side peeps... Carrie is gonna be rushed into the spotlight and has to produce an album quickly. I think Carrie needs this because she needs to get steam for her second album. But Bo is in a better postion, as he can take his time with his album (Clive said he IS going to make an album with him) and guess what? It's going to be a great album. Not rushed; more creative and calulated; and hopefully not manufactured by Randy.
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shanana banana 658 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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05-27-05, 02:50 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Bo has it better NOT winning" |
I totally see where you're coming from in your post and I definitely agree that Bo will be like Clay wherein he comes out better than the winner -- yes, his album will be more creative and less rushed, etc. He will still go on to have a career and make a great album. I know all that and yet..............I still just *really* wanted him to have that AI title. <sigh.>
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