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janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-17-05, 05:46 PM (EST) "It should be Estella not Jen" Jen won and lived with her man for a year then they broke up. No one wants the golden girl on the show again this season....get real.The public wants to see Estella as the bachelorette since she was duped by lousey Bozo Bob. Estella won but ended up the loser.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-17-05 1    RE: It should be Estella not Jen RyrieRae 01-17-05 2        RE: It should be Estella not Jen janicensd 01-18-05 12            RE: It should be Estella not Jen RyrieRae 01-22-05 27                RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-22-05 28                    RE: It should be Estella not Jen RyrieRae 01-24-05 33                        RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-24-05 34    RE: It should be Estella not Jen BriarRosie 01-18-05 8        RE: It should be Estella not Jen janicensd 01-18-05 14    RE: It should be Estella not Jen janicensd 01-18-05 11        RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-19-05 19  Half agree realitybites 01-18-05 3    Disagree with half janicensd 01-18-05 5        RE: Disagree with half realitybites 01-19-05 16  RE: It should be Estella not Jen missygirl3 01-18-05 4    RE: It should be Estella not Jen teacherkelly 01-18-05 6        RE: It should be Estella not Jen TDeniseS 01-18-05 7            RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-18-05 9                RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-18-05 10            RE: It should be Estella not Jen janicensd 01-18-05 15                RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-19-05 17        RE: It should be Estella not Jen janicensd 01-18-05 13            RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-19-05 18                RE: It should be Estella not Jen janicensd 01-20-05 20                    RE: It should be Estella not Jen realitycoholic 01-20-05 21                        RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-21-05 24                    RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-21-05 25                        RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-21-05 26        RE: It should be Estella not Jen Loree 01-25-05 37  RE: It should be Estella not Jen sirensong2273 01-20-05 22    RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-20-05 23        Estella G and Steve Holy - Video Lolette 01-23-05 29            RE: Estella G and Steve Holy - Vid... consise10 01-23-05 31    RE: It should be Estella not Jen Queene1979 01-23-05 30        Re Estella duped again ! consise10 01-23-05 32            RE: Re Estella duped again ! TDeniseS 01-25-05 35                RE: Re Estella duped again ! consise10 01-25-05 38                    RE: Re Estella duped again ! Elaine0 01-25-05 40                        RE: Re Estella duped again ! consise10 01-26-05 41  RE: It should be Estella not Jen Honey38 01-25-05 36    RE: It should be Estella not Jen consise10 01-25-05 39

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consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-17-05, 07:57 PM (EST) 1. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Hello janicensd.Thankyou for your post.That series of the batchelor was real interesting.I felt that Bob had not made the correct choice in choosing Estella ultimately(although she was a rather flirtatious person)and perhaps that`s why Bob chose her.Maybe he felt they had a good physical/sexual connection.Who knows? Jen,now was she the cute short little runner up who had about 5 or 6 older women living with her who were her grangmother and mother and aunties? I thought she was better suited to Bob and would provide a more fun and varied existence for Bob-but I guess he didn`t see it that way!! As I am from Australia I am not aware of the 'duped' status of Estella as you put it.Can you or some one else fill me in on what has happened? Did Bob dump Estella after the shows conclusion and get with Jennifer?   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 01-17-05, 08:21 PM (EST) 2. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" <No one wants the golden girl on the show again this season.> I do.   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 11:38 PM (EST) 12. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Really? Don't you find her boring and spolied? Sorry but it is true. I will not watch the show again.   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 01-22-05, 09:21 AM (EST) 27. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" I don't necessarily find her "spoiled." She is a little uptight though. But the truth is, she is the kind of girl I would be (and am) attracted to. I was also a big Estella fan, if it helps us have something in common   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-22-05, 07:46 PM (EST) 28. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Are you refering to Kelly Jo ,RyrieRae ?   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 01-24-05, 03:53 PM (EST) 33. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" No, I meant Estella. I was a big fan of hers the second she tripped when entering the house. I liked Kelly Jo also. I also thought Kelly Jo would make a great Bachelorette. She fit the Trista mold. I was very disapointed with meredith.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-24-05, 09:31 PM (EST) 34. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Thanks for your post RyrieRae.I too loved Kelly Jo.She was so full of life wasn`t she?I wonder why she wasnt given her own show?... Oh yes ,it`s probably because she`s in a commited relationship.They are probably both better of without Bob the two timing rascal. Wasn`t Meredith so boring and bored herself.When her Grandmother died and she and Bob went down to visit her grave for the first time since she passed,it is my opinion that in this moment,Bob felt at his most bored with Meredith.She decided to continue with him and lay all of her'so called' grief on him that he decided to not continue with her.Yawn yawn yawn was my appraisal of the 'devastated' Meredith.Did she find love in her own program as batchelorette,or hasn`t it aired yet? I too was a fan of Estella and thought she was one of the most elegant and femine women on the program.The way she tripped was also handled with extreme grace-I loved that moment.Estella has been one who`s also maintained her dignity throughout this whole saga and she deserves happiness.What do you think,Ryrie Ray?   Top

BriarRosie 990 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 01-18-05, 07:27 PM (EST) 8. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" The other girl Bob didn't pick was Kelly Jo. She's also a Chicago gal, like Bachelorette Jen, and I would have loved a Kelly Jo season. Bob and Estella were dead in the water, and since then, Bob married a daytime TV soap star, Rebecca Budig. They met when she hosted a show about "The Bachelor". Lori Survivor: Adventurers Club Outdrink, Outlaugh, Outkungaloosh!   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 11:45 PM (EST) 14. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Kelly JO seemed nice as well. Good for her she didn't win (or lose) by being picked by Bozo Bob.   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 11:36 PM (EST) 11. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Actually, Estella was the least flirtatious of the last three, Mary being one of them who almost had sex in the shower on public TV and she got her own show. Jen was never on this episode. She was on another show and was the winner. She actually moved in with the guy and they lived together for a year I believe tey eventaully broke up for normal reasons. I think and so do those I work with that Bob was on the show to promote a CD that never made it and he dumped Estella who seemed really sweet immediately after the show. At least this is what the public thinks from what I hear. The second runner up Kelly Jo and from what I read she is happy in a committed relationship. She seemed really nice too but a little easy if you know what I mean.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-19-05, 09:19 PM (EST) 19. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Yes you are absolutely right janicensd.I thought Estella was flirtatious and very elegant-and soft as opposed to some of the other girls who really layed there emotions on the line to Bob during the show. But Mary,my god,she was truily over the top in that 'shower scene'.How could one have forgotten her in that!It was like a scene from a softcore porn film.Utterly tasteless!It should have been edited in my opinion-but I guess these TV executives have other ideas.Judjing from that performance,it doesn`t suprise me that she got her own show.She really does express herself in more ways than one doesn`t she?   Top

realitybites 1174 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 01-18-05, 05:16 AM (EST) 3. "Half agree" >No one wants the golden girl on the show again this >season....get real.The public wants to see Estella as the >bachelorette since she was duped by lousey Bozo Bob. Estella won >but ended up the loser. I agree that Jen was not my first choice of Bachelorette; she seemed too normal and non-media whorish. I haven't watched the show at all, but it seems like she's changed in the past two years or so. I disagree that Estella would be any better. I'm sure that she, more than anyone, knew what she was getting into with Bob. Not being with him anymore is no great loss. Reality shows that don't/didn't bite: Lost, The Amazing Race, Beg Borrow & Deal, The Wild Rules, I Wanna Date a Race Car Driver, American Dream Derby Reality shows that bit but I watched anyway: Love Cruise, The Bachelor(ette), Joe Millionaire, Married By America   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 10:16 AM (EST) 5. "Disagree with half" You say Estella knew what she was gettin into....what about Jen and the fabulous man she met? Why should she have another chance? What about Meredith and Mary...they too knew what they were getting into when they wanted Bob. Remember Mary's crocodile tears and broken heart? Unfortuanately Estella got chosen by the pig and was probably hurt more than the rest. A group of us were discussing it at work yesterday and the consensus was it would please the public ig ABC made it up tp her. We would all breathe a sign of relief.   Top

realitybites 1174 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 01-19-05, 05:32 AM (EST) 16. "RE: Disagree with half" Why should Jen have another chance? I don't think she should. But again, I fail to see how Estella was hurt much by being chosen and dropped by Bob. She had to know that Bob wasn't serious when they dated on the show. And the relationship fizzled out so quickly after that that there couldn't have been much trauma there.   Top

missygirl3 541 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 01-18-05, 09:10 AM (EST) 4. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" I am guessing that the main reason they dont have Estella as a Bachelorette is because she has very negative feelings toward Bob and ABC. I have read several interviews with her after the whole Bob aftermath and she says bad things about both parties. I agree with her.   Top

teacherkelly 179 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 12:32 PM (EST) 6. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Estella is ungodly annoying. Her voice is like nails on a blackboard and had NO personality when she was on the Bachelor. She would be a ratings nightmare. I could not bear to watch her again. I hope she finds happiness, I am sure she is great person, but I hope she doesn't find happiness on TV.   Top

TDeniseS 106 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 03:56 PM (EST) 7. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" >> She would be a >ratings nightmare. I could not >bear to watch her again. > I agree! I wouldn't mind the runner-up from that Bachelor series being the next Bacheloretee....Mary or whatever her name was...very vibrant personality. But Estella was AWFUL!   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-18-05, 10:12 PM (EST) 9. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Thanks Briar Rose for keeping me informed and answering my questions.Bob sounds like a real womaniser.I always thought as such from his behaviour on the Batchelor-especially when he stared on his own and lost all that weight.I honestly cant see what all those women see in him.He is a two timing no good wolf!! Yes I thought Kelly Jo was better for him in Estellas place but I bet she is glad she didn`t win! As for Estella one of you mentioned she was rather negative about Bob and the whole shows process,well I can`t blame her!!And yes the network should make it up to her by making her the next Batchelorette-if she wants it!It`s the least they can do!   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-18-05, 10:16 PM (EST) 10. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Oh and another thing,I recently saw him being interviewd on Oprah here in Australia and he was lapping up theattention.It makes me sick now that I know more about him!He was married before going on to the Batchelorette with Trista wasn`t he?   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 11:46 PM (EST) 15. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Helllooo, Mary already had her own show. She fell "in love" all over again.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-19-05, 09:05 PM (EST) 17. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Mary ,now she was the one who took Bob back to her Argentinian family who couldn`t speak any English.Is that right janicensd? Did she get her own show as the Batchelorrete,like Trista,or some other show similar to it? Nothing has been shown here in Australia,so I`m not in the loop-if you know what I mean.Please inform me if you or anyone else out there knows-I`d really appreciate it.   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-18-05, 11:44 PM (EST) 13. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" I disagree ... the ratings were probally sky high. Everyone I know was watching intently, making bets on the whow, having weekly get togethers to watch it...Remember two of the losers got their own shows...Meredith and Mary. Estella seemed like such a sweet china doll. I remember the show with her mom. It almost brought me to tears. Bob was a womanizer and it really looks to all of us that Estella was violated. Poor thing.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-19-05, 09:09 PM (EST) 18. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" janicensd.I agree with your view about Estella being violated!Bob is a womaniser-there`s no dispute about that.Meredith ,was she the one that looked older than the other girls?Do you think Estella deserves her own show,and why or why not?   Top

janicensd 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-20-05, 00:13 AM (EST) 20. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Re: Mary, correct she was the one who took Bob back to her Argentinian family who couldn`t speak any English. She actually did the shower sceene and we all know what happened from there... Yes, she too got her own show and got to pick from the bachelors. She is engaged and supposed to get married next year I believe. She was older, clock ticking. Meredith was the one that looked older. Her grandma was dying and she stayed on the show instead of going home to be with her (not so nice)..she also got her own show. Kelly Jo - has a committed realtionship I believe. We wish her every happiness. Estella - who knows. She got duped by Bob who has been sleeping all over the place...she did not get another show?? Jen won and lived for a year with the Firestone hottie. They seemed happy per the media but eventually broke up for personal reasons. Now for some unknown reason she has another show?? She is attractive but (sorry Jen) barbie boring. My co-workers and family want to see Estella have another show. Seems like the perfect choice. Most of the public wants to route for her. She is every woman and we want her to have a second chance. What do you think?   Top

realitycoholic 216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 01-20-05, 02:25 PM (EST) 21. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Just a correction: Mary did not get her own show...she was on the last Bachelor with Byron as the bachelor. She did come in later in the show after the initial group, but it wasn't her own show at all. And, her family wasn't Argentinian, but Cuban -- weren't they?   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-21-05, 00:02 AM (EST) 24. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Hello realitycoholic.Thanks for your post-Argentine comes to mind.Did Mary "miss tell all show all" win the batchelor Byrons heart?   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-21-05, 00:27 AM (EST) 25. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Your recounts are so accurate janicensd.Each time I read your posts I remember something new!About Meredith,I do recall she took Bob to her grandmothers Grave and was all sad about her loss.At this point I felt she spoiled her chances with her catch-as he felt so bored and burdened by the whole experience!I felt that prior to this the game could have been all hers. Except wasn`t her family and brother just so boring!She was attractive-and it doesn`t suprise me she got her own show at all.However I thought she appeared some what guarded during the intimate moments with womanising Bob(unlike the clock ticking tell all show all Mary!-if you know what I mean) Kelly Jo was wonderful-and so full of life-I thought she was better suited to Bob at the time(but now I guess she`s better off). The 'Firestone hottie' as you put it chose Jen who was not my first choice for him.To tell you the truth, I thought he was the most arrogant of all the Batchelors and because he had the Firestone fortune behind him I thought,that he thought he was "God".And if I had of been on that show with him as the Batchelor I would have been evicted very soon if not by his choice then by my own undertaking!I really didnt like him!! As for Estella -I agree with you-she was the one violated by Bob 'the womanising wolf',and if she wishes to expose herself like the way she did on TV and wants to have a crack at finding love again that way-then the Network should make it up to her.After all they owe her that much!However from what I read on these boards janicensd,Estella may have already found her 'soul man'.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-21-05, 00:36 AM (EST) 26. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" Furthermore janicensd-aren't these women and men who go on as batchelors and batchelorettes total exibitionists? I don`t see the attraction to exposing all my emotions and vulnerabilities to a man infront of the whole world on national television at prime time.Especially what Mary did-It`s such a very personal and private matter(Well it is to me anyway).Where do you stand janicensd?   Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-25-05, 12:01 PM (EST) 37. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" I never liked Estella at all. So I would be happy not to see her again. I also never liked Meredith. I thought she was such a boring choice. Of course it could be worse. They could have brought back Helene and that voice. *shudder*   Top

sirensong2273 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-20-05, 04:18 PM (EST) 22. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" The reason Estella isn't the bachelorette is because she is dating country music star Steve Holy. Has been since June of last year. She is in his video "Put Your Best Dress On." Just an FYI.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-20-05, 11:58 PM (EST) 23. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" If what you say is true sirensong2273 then I applaud Estella.She deserves every happiness since being mistreated by womanising Bob and the selfish TV network!Haven`t heard the song or seen the clip-out here in Australia-but hope one day to catch a glimpse of it-How popular a hit is it?   Top

Lolette 254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 01-23-05, 00:50 AM (EST) 29. "Estella G and Steve Holy - Video " http://www.steveholy.com/PYBDO%20link.htm http://www.steveholy.com   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-23-05, 03:52 AM (EST) 31. "RE: Estella G and Steve Holy - Video " Thanks Lolette.Not a bad song-and doesn`t Estella look glamourous!!   Top

Queene1979 445 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 01-23-05, 01:58 AM (EST) 30. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" I just came across these two articles http://www.tennessean.com/celebrities/archives/04/07/54108434.shtml?Element_ID=54108434 http://www.freep.com/entertainment/namesandfaces/names16_20040716.htm It seems to me that Estella isnt very lucky in love   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-23-05, 04:03 AM (EST) 32. "Re Estella duped again !" Well one would come to expect that celebrity romances are only short lived.Why would this one be any different? Poor Estella.She`s been two timed again by another 'womaniser'.It really must be something about her that attracts such no good men!I feel sorry for her in this respect-she deserves happiness.However,the question is,is she searching for it in the right places? I guess she herself likes to be in the limelight otherwise why would one apply for a show like the Batchelor-where it all gets layed on the line?Know what I mean? What do you reckon Queene1979 or any one else out there?   Top

TDeniseS 106 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 01-25-05, 10:39 AM (EST) 35. "RE: Re Estella duped again !" >>Poor Estella.She`s been two timed again >by another 'womaniser'.It really must >be something about her that >attracts such no good men!>I guess she herself likes to >be in the limelight otherwise >why would one apply for >a show like the Batchelor-where >it all gets layed on >the line?Know what I mean? > > IMHO, Estella comes across as fake and plastic..... no way she could carry a show... Kelly Jo could easily carry a show but I guess she found her true love. Estella wanted too much attention..... hopefully, she will find someone else in the limelight. I don't feel sorry for her...at all. I think she probably got what she deserved for going on the show with Bob. No flames please! lol.... just my opinion!   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-25-05, 10:27 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Re Estella duped again !" Hello TDeniseS.Thanks for your post. I agree with you about Kelly Jo being a great candidate for her own show but not with what you say about Estella.As I stated I thought she was a picture of grace and beauty.What makes you say that Estella 'probably got what she deserved for going on the show with Bob?'.I thought he was really nice on the Batchelorette with Trista,prior to him getting his own show,after he lost all that body weight.Is it his whole sleezy approach in general? TdeniseS,can you please inform me if you know,was Bob ever married before the batchelorette with Trista? TDeniseS no fires with me-conflicting opinion makes for interesting conversation.As long as we all have a certain level of self respect and respect for others it`s all fine.   Top

Elaine0 1507 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 01-25-05, 11:45 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Re Estella duped again !" I thought Kelly Jo was asked before Meredith and she said she didn't want to do the show. Bob was married before doing the Bachelorette with Trista. Then on his own show he kept saying he didn't know if he was ready to get married again because he was afraid of getting hurt. And then he dumps Estella and marries the one he met before her. Kelly Jo got lucky she wasn't picked. Maybe Fabrice can be the next bachelorette.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-26-05, 05:20 AM (EST) 41. "RE: Re Estella duped again !" Thanks for your post Elaine0.Yes kelly Jo was lucky given the batchelor.You are so funny with that comment about Fabrice.He`s on the batchelorette with Jen isn`t he? What do you think of Meredith Elaine0?   Top

Honey38 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-25-05, 11:40 AM (EST) 36. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" I agree.. Jen is too boring. Estella is beautiful and I;m sure would be more open and not as shallow.   Top

consise10 399 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-25-05, 10:29 PM (EST) 39. "RE: It should be Estella not Jen" You are right Honey38, Estella is Beautiful.   Top

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