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ktnorth5 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-26-04, 09:55 PM (EST) "Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " LAST EDITED ON 08-26-04 AT 09:56 PM (EST) I dont know if anyone else noticed but Marvin should not be HOH this week. I've watched it about 10 times in slow motion frame by frame on my TiVo. In the semi-final round Karen's ball clearly falls to the bottom of the tube before Marvins'. If you watch closely Marvin's ball starts rolling around the rim of the hole while Karen's hits the back wall and comes back to fall in the hole. You can see Karen's ball fall down the tube but Marvin's is still rolling around. I think Big Brother needs to be made aware of this since it should have been Karen and Cowboy in the finals and not Marvin.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time mtscus 08-26-04 1    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time ktnorth5 08-26-04 4    who cares shakes the clown 08-27-04 10        RE: who cares qwertypie 08-27-04 16        RE: who cares ktnorth5 08-27-04 19            that's where you're dead wrong shakes the clown 08-27-04 29        RE: who cares true 08-27-04 32  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time drebaby 08-26-04 2  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time seahorse 08-26-04 3  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time true 08-26-04 5    Big Blunder #2 Pez 08-26-04 6    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Toasted_N_Texas 08-26-04 7        RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time true 08-26-04 8  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time okaychatt 08-26-04 9    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Pez 08-27-04 11  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time MollyTV 08-27-04 12    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Peach12a 08-27-04 13        RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time ktnorth5 08-27-04 18    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Pez 08-27-04 14        RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Peach12a 08-27-04 15            RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time qwertypie 08-27-04 17  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Drive My Car 08-27-04 20    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Estee 08-27-04 22    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time proofofnolife 08-27-04 40  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Wacko Jacko 08-27-04 21    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time syren 08-27-04 23  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Jims02 08-27-04 24    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Wacko Jacko 08-27-04 25        RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time Pez 08-27-04 26        RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time ARnutz 08-27-04 28  RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time nailbone 08-27-04 27    RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time ARnutz 08-27-04 30        RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time okaychatt 08-27-04 33            RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time twinpoweractivate 08-27-04 36  hypocrites, all of you... shakes the clown 08-27-04 31    RE: hypocrites, all of you... Pez 08-27-04 34        RE: hypocrites, all of you... Pez 08-27-04 35    RE: hypocrites, all of you... nailbone 08-27-04 37    RE: hypocrites, all of you... Captain_Savem 08-27-04 38        RE: hypocrites, all of you... uadbs 08-27-04 39            RE: hypocrites, all of you... Pez 08-27-04 41        RE: hypocrites, all of you... BrassFan 08-28-04 42            RE: hypocrites, all of you... Pez 08-28-04 43                RE: hypocrites, all of you... seahorse 08-28-04 45                RE: hypocrites, all of you... BrassFan 08-28-04 49                    idiotic argument shakes the clown 08-28-04 50                        RE: idiotic argument BrassFan 08-28-04 51            RE: hypocrites, all of you... syren 08-28-04 44                RE: hypocrites, all of you... CDNTARFAN 08-28-04 46                    RE: hypocrites, all of you... Pez 08-28-04 47                        RE: hypocrites, all of you... motormouth 08-28-04 48                            RE: hypocrites, all of you... Pez 08-29-04 52                                RE: hypocrites, all of you... motormouth 08-29-04 53

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mtscus 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-26-04, 10:00 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " I saw it too, watched it multiple times on TiVo and you are right. It should have been Karen in the finals with Cowboy! Something should be done.   Top

ktnorth5 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-26-04, 10:16 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " I'm Glad i'm not the only one who noticed. I just sent an email to cbs. Don't know if it will do any good but it's worth a shot.   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 08-27-04, 00:41 AM (EST) 10. "who cares" Something >should be done. ...yeah, like for starters, you should hit yourself in a head with a hammer for being dumb and/or delusional enough to actually care about a screw up in a competition on a reality show. Then, provided you are still conscious, hit yourself again in the head with the hammer and repeat after me..... "IT's a TV show and the only thing that matters is the amount of drama produced, not legitimate contest results" Geez....writing emails to CBS to protest a result on BB...that is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard of.   Top

qwertypie 9776 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 02:11 AM (EST) 16. "RE: who cares" LAST EDITED ON 08-27-04 AT 02:12 AM (EST) Shakes, isn't it time for your nap? Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

ktnorth5 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-27-04, 07:41 AM (EST) 19. "RE: who cares" It is a reality show that is also a game show that must fit in with the federal game show guidelines ie. Contestants cannot by told by producers how to vote or play the game and competitions cannot be fixed to bring a certain outcome. Now I'm not saying it was fixed. It was clearly a mistake on Julies part. You need to remember these people are playing for $500,000 not just drama. Don't get me wrong nothing against Marvin (he is one of my favorites) but this is a serious mistake that could change the outcome of the game. If something isn't done to fix it when Karen gets out she would be able to take legal action against CBS and Big Brother.   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 08-27-04, 12:56 PM (EST) 29. "that's where you're dead wrong" > It is a reality show >that is also a game >show that must fit in >with the federal game show >guidelines ie. Contestants cannot by >told by producers how to >vote or play the game >and competitions cannot be fixed >to bring a certain outcome. > ...yeah, both of those require intentional acts by the producers. Not judgement errors by the host. HUGE DIFFERENCE. In other words, there ain't nothing that can be done and you need to stop caring about something so stupid as the results of a game show. > > You need to remember these >people are playing for $500,000 >not just drama. ...no, they are not! The reason they went on the show was because they are media whores and they think this is their big break into hollywood. The $500,000 was secondary and it was second by a longshot. > > If something isn't done >to fix it when Karen >gets out she would be >able to take legal action >against CBS and Big Brother. ...no, she has no case at all. Additionally, she won't sue cause she won't want to upset CBS and ruin her delusional chances at post BB fame. Seriously, is this the first reality show you've ever watched???? It sure sounds like it. >   Top

true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 01:46 PM (EST) 32. "RE: who cares" I feel like I should be hit over the head with a hammer, just for watching this stupid show. yeah, well, my butt launched a thousand tug boats just yesterday. --Executive Princess Pooh   Top

drebaby 59 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-26-04, 10:12 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " You or Karen call always appeal to the FIG, but as Paul Hamm said in his squeaky voice, I won this gold fair and square!   Top

seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-26-04, 10:13 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " I know they were close. I will have to rewatch the tape, but I would be shocked if they make a change. ©Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-26-04, 10:36 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Diane saw it. She just told CB that Karen's ball dropped straight in, and Marvin's was spiraling. CB then said something like, so it would have been me against Karen? (I'm sure that will really tick him off!) They said that if a mistake was made they would have made Karen and CB do another playoff, so they figured it must have been close, but Marvin must have won, or they would change the results. They also mentioned that it was on live tv, but they believe that BB would just explain it as a mistake if they had to do it over. yeah, well, my butt launched a thousand tug boats just yesterday. --Executive Princess Pooh   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-26-04, 10:54 PM (EST) 6. "Big Blunder #2" Well you would think that after the other HOH blunder a few weeks ago (when they let Natalie stay in the HOH competition after answering a questions wrong) that they would pay closer attention to future competitions. I watched in disbelief as they proceeded to the final competition with Marvin and Cowboy. Too bad that Marvin was celebrating so much when he won, I am sure that he will be looking for an attorney when he gets out. Maybe the new "real" HOH winner will cut Marvin a break and not but him up next... but I doubt it.   Top

Toasted_N_Texas 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-26-04, 11:03 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Well I just watched it over 5 times and Karen's ball definately fell first. Is BB going to do another competition or does the HOH stand?????   Top

true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-26-04, 11:12 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " No word on a redo at this point. I have no idea if they'll change it or not. On another note, Marvin promised Nakomis that she was safe this week. yeah, well, my butt launched a thousand tug boats just yesterday. --Executive Princess Pooh   Top

okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 08-26-04, 11:16 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " LAST EDITED ON 08-26-04 AT 11:17 PM (EST) "it should have been Karen and Cowboy in the finals and not Marvin. " Aw nuts! And I so enjoyed Marvin's Happy Happy Joy Joy dance. And I really enjoyed CB's disappointment twice tonight - once when Marvin won the Y&R spot and the other when Marvin won HOH. I thought it was a bit cruel of CBS to have CB's name the last to drop off just before Marvin realized he'd won the role. CB really thinks he has a chance as a star after BB 5 ends. He just doesn't get the joke, just like William Hung. Pathetic. I know, I know - Hung is laughing all the way to the bank. I just hope CB doesn't enjoy the same kind of luck. I doubt they change things. They don't have a history of making corrections, as seen in the question/answer game a few weeks ago. Maybe it's like the old days before instant replay was available. Refs made incorrect rulings, but the teams had to play it out anyway. Life's not fair, you know. ETA - I sure wouldn't want my fate decided with Julie Chen at the helm. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 01:17 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Well they just let Marvin into the HOH room, so I guess that they are not going to correct their major screw up. It is just amazing how f'd up this show is getting. If I were playing for $500K and did not make it to the final two because of a screw up in an HOH competition I would be suing their #####. I am sure that they made all of the players sign all kinds of disclaimers an releases to get onto the show but this mistake is just inexcusable. This mistake will change the outcome of the game, and the bonehead producers are just rolling with it like nothing happened.   Top

MollyTV 480 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 08-27-04, 01:22 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " i agree i agree.....i sat and watched it over and over and yes marvins ball hit the bottom LAST...actually it never even hit the bottom on the part that aired. but....i rewound the tape to julie explaining the rules...and she said...."the first person "to make a hole in one" and the ball hits the bottom of the tube wins. which i then thought must be open to interpretation....as in he was the first person to make a hole in one and it did hit the bottom..ie..later ....but since she didn't say "hit the bottom first"...i think that was the loophole.... mollytv   Top

Peach12a 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-27-04, 01:31 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " From what I saw, karens ball bounced off the back wall, into the cup, marvins went straight in. It may have circled, but it was a straight shot, not a ricochet, that could be the difference.   Top

ktnorth5 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-27-04, 07:28 AM (EST) 18. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " I don't beleave it makes a difference if you hit it off the back wall on wether it counts or not. In the final Marvin Hit his ball off a previous miss and it scored and counted. A hole in one is distinguished by only hitting the ball once with the putter.   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 01:31 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " >but....i rewound the tape to julie >explaining the rules...and she said...."the >first person "to make a >hole in one" and the >ball hits the bottom of >the tube wins. which >i then thought must be >open to interpretation....as in he >was the first person to >make a hole in one >and it did hit the >bottom..ie..later >....but since she didn't say "hit >the bottom first"...i think that >was the loophole.... There's no loophole. The producers of Big Brother are just freekin morons! It's like saying the first horse to cross the finish line (and then trot around the track one more time) wins. If trotting around the track after being the first to cross the finish line is irrelevant then why include it in the rules that defines the winner? The rules are clear, the first person to get the ball to the bottom of the tube wins. So as much as I liked to see Marvin get HOH, it's a mistake that taints the game.   Top

Peach12a 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-27-04, 01:51 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " They key is hole in one, marvin got a hole in one, karen didnt, hers bounced back into the cup.   Top

qwertypie 9776 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 02:16 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " So all those hole in ones I got playing mini golf by bouncing it off other players don't count? Sheesh! Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 07:57 AM (EST) 20. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " I don't have Tivo, and I saw Karen's ball hit the bottom first. I couldn't believe when Julie said Marvin. Julie is notorious for making mistakes in the comps.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 09:15 AM (EST) 22. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Julie Chen, Olympic Judge: 'So they get two bonus points if they wear body glitter...'   Top

proofofnolife 58 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 06:05 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Poor glittery, serious journalist Julie, maybe she was just so incredulous over her quote "Nakomis please go around back and clear Michael's tube" that she never recovered and made a innocent judgement call on the dropping balls!   Top

Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 08-27-04, 08:43 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " ENOUGH! First off is it the first in the hole or the first to drop? Personally I am glad Marvin won. Karen is the most boring crazy person I have ever seen. She could sleep all the remaining days and I wouldn't know she wasn't there. So who does Marvin nominate??   Top

syren 5418 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 09:40 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " LAST EDITED ON 08-27-04 AT 10:06 AM (EST) Okay, so Marvins was the first in.... Karen was called into the diary room last night and was told by BB that she lost by a fraction of a sec., she also said something about watching the tape over. I personally think that hers hit the bottom.......However I am glad that Marvin won HOH... Karen is playing more than what people think she is, personally I don't think she is as crazy as she would like us all to beleive. Watching the feeds and reading the trascrips, I see that she is not just playing, but that noone is noticing in the House because they don't see her as a treat, but as am emotional crazy basket case....maybe she is playing the best....hmmmmm... ETA: you can view the putt again at <http://www.aldav.com/bb3.html>   Top

Jims02 7407 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 10:43 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Thanks for pointing that out. I'm going to check it when writing my summary. Anyway, I really don't care that Karen should have beaten Marvin. I mean, they're both probably going to nominate the same person anyway. As for a Karen/Michael putting showdown, I still would give the edge to Karen. Michael can't win a thing. If we're gonna talk about "would've should've" then Karen *should've* been able to beat Michael's score of one hole-in-one in 60 seconds. New TAR5 Game - Place your bets!   Top

Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 08-27-04, 11:13 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Who does Marvin nominate? I don't think it is as clear as everyone thinks. The smart thing to do is to break up alliances. So he should vote for one of these groups: Drew/Diane and Nik/Karen. And to a lesser extent Michael/Adria but Michael also has an alliance with Drew. Michael can really float to any group. He's close with Drew, Adria and Nik. If I were Marvin I would pick a group to align with and work to break up the other groups. Really the best group for him to allign with would be Adria/Michael. The other 4 really are an alliance of two groups of two.   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 11:33 AM (EST) 26. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Marvin does not nominate anyone, he aint the HOH? Those CBS bast turds better fix this blunder!   Top

ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 12:55 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " I think he will nominate Adria and Karen. A b/c he's still pissed and Karen b/c she drives them nuts! Not to mention how she is a floater.   Top

nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 11:41 AM (EST) 27. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " Eh, CB wouldn't beat Karen, and Karen doesn't want to be HOH anyway. So it's not a big deal. Handcrafted by RollDdice The order of Banana delivery should be organized by location to save on shipping costs. o-   Top

ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 12:57 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " You got it Nailbone! Karen won't push the issue b/c she wants to remain a floater and I bet she couldn't handle the pressure of being HOH anyway!   Top

okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 08-27-04, 02:01 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " "I bet she couldn't handle the pressure of being HOH anyway" You're probably right, but wouldn't it be fun to watch her being pushed, kicking and screaming, into the HOH bedroom? Everyone is entitled to my opinion.   Top

twinpoweractivate 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-27-04, 02:16 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Big Brother Messed Up Big Time " eh maybe cowboy would have performed differently against Karen, hell maybe Karen wouldnt have gotten one ball in in the final. So i dont think she is that upset but if i were cowboy i would be.. I agree CBS screwed up but doesn't seem like they will fix it.   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 08-27-04, 01:03 PM (EST) 31. "hypocrites, all of you..." ...all you people complaining about the results...I don't remember any of you complaining when Adria was nominated in week 4 and CBS made up a rule that if Adria was evicted Natalie would enter the house anyway. How is that any different than what happened last night in terms of affecting the legitimacy of the game??? In other words, the rules DON'T matter one bit...all that matters is the drama. You'll learn to accept this alot better if you take my simple approach to reality shows....basically, treat it like a lottery. The contestants are picked and they all get to be media whores, that is the main prize. Then, randomly someone will win a lot of money at the end.   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 02:11 PM (EST) 34. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >...all you people complaining about the >results...I don't remember any of >you complaining when Adria was >nominated in week 4 and >CBS made up a rule >that if Adria was evicted >Natalie would enter the house >anyway. When Julie (the tool) Chen said that about Natalie I thought that I was hearing things. What really shocked me even more was when she said that if Drew or Karen got evicted that their twins would also be brought into the BB house. This show is just getting freekin ridiculous... and it's even more ridiculous that I continue to watch it.   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 02:15 PM (EST) 35. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >What really shocked me even >more was when she said >that if Drew or Karen >got evicted that their twins >would also be brought into >the BB house. duh... make that Drew and Diane, I am just as F'd up as Julie (dresses like a pole dancer) Chen.   Top

nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-27-04, 03:18 PM (EST) 37. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." And for the newbies in the crowd, the Clown knows of whence he speaks. Handcrafted by RollDdice The order of Banana delivery should be organized by location to save on shipping costs. o-   Top

Captain_Savem 3731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 08-27-04, 04:03 PM (EST) 38. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." Well said shakes, I completely forgot that slight alteration of the rules. At first, Julie says that if Adria/Natalie get found out, it's game over. Then a couple weeks later she says that Natalie will come into the game if Adria gets evicted. Clearly, this game isn't designed to be fair. Well, it's fair in that everyone has an equal chance of getting screwed... Courtesy of Slice & Dice Chop Shop ©2004 All Rights Reserved U.C.B. Local #69   Top

uadbs 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-27-04, 04:53 PM (EST) 39. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." first time poster here, but thought i would take up for big bro. in terms of them changing the rules in regards to first they said if adria/nat got evicted before they both were in the house, that the other wouldn't come in and then they decided that if one got voted out earlier that that, the other would come into the house........yes, they did change the rules there, but they didn't change them on the houseguests, they had no idea what BB was planning on doing, so all they really did was change what they wanted to do with the twins, which i dont have a problem with that at all if they thought that would make for better tv.....just my opinion   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-27-04, 06:06 PM (EST) 41. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >........yes, they did change >the rules there, but they >didn't change them on the >houseguests, they had no idea >what BB was planning on >doing, so all they really >did was change what they >wanted to do with the >twins, which i dont have >a problem with that at >all if they thought that >would make for better tv.....just >my opinion Hell, if they are just going to change things that they think will make a more interesting show, why not bring Marvin's mother into the game? This would go right along with their stupid Project DNA theme.   Top

BrassFan 326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 08-28-04, 11:27 AM (EST) 42. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >Well said shakes, I completely forgot >that slight alteration of the rules. >At first, Julie says that if Adria/Natalie >get found out, it's game over. Then a >couple weeks later she says that Natalie >will come into the game if Adria gets evicted. How is that an alteration of the rules? 1) Julie said that if they were discovered, it's game over. 2) She said later that if Adria got evicted, Natalie could come into the house. When Adria was on the block, had they been discovered as twins? Did Julie ever tell us that if one of them was evicted it was game over? Or, did everyone just ASSUME that if one was evicted it would be the end of their game? I don't recall anyone ever saying that if one of them was evicted, they'd both have to leave. Monte   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-28-04, 02:21 PM (EST) 43. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >Did Julie ever >tell us that if one >of them was evicted it >was game over? Or, >did everyone just ASSUME that >if one was evicted it >would be the end of >their game? I don't >recall anyone ever saying that >if one of them was >evicted, they'd both have to >leave. > >Monte Julie said that they were playing the game as one, so yes, it was correct to assume that if one of them got evicted that both of them would be evicted. CBS is just changing/bending the rules in an effort to manipulate and retain viewers. They s u c k!   Top

seahorse 14337 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-28-04, 02:31 PM (EST) 45. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." Of course, CBS is just changing/bending the rules in an effort to manipulate and retain viewers. That is what their ultimate desire is viewers, so that they can sell advertising and make money. They could care less about being fair. I bet each contestant signed documents that held CBS harmless for any changes in the game. Whatever CBS desired. ©Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

BrassFan 326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 08-28-04, 07:08 PM (EST) 49. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >Julie said that they were playing >the game as one, so yes, it was >correct to assume that if one of >them got evicted that both >of them would be evicted. Apparently it wasn't correct to assume that. In fact, weren't they (and we) told on day one DO NOT ASSUME anything?? >CBS is just changing/bending the >rules in an effort to manipulate >and retain viewers. They s u c k! I'm sure a lot of reality shows manipulate the rules to retain viewers...that's the whole idea....to get you to watch the show.   Top

shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 08-28-04, 10:25 PM (EST) 50. "idiotic argument" >Apparently it wasn't correct to assume >that. In fact, weren't >they (and we) told on >day one DO NOT ASSUME >anything?? > ...in that case, the viewers and contestants were stupid to assume that Julie was serious when she said that the winner would be the one who's ball hit the bottom of the tube first.   Top

BrassFan 326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 08-28-04, 11:35 PM (EST) 51. "RE: idiotic argument" >...in that case, the viewers and >contestants were stupid to assume >that Julie was serious when >she said that the winner >would be the one who's >ball hit the bottom of >the tube first. Huh? How is that even close to being similar? In one case, people assumed something that was never said. In the other case, people pointed out that what was said isn't the way it happened. They're two very different things.   Top

syren 5418 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-28-04, 02:29 PM (EST) 44. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." "When Adria was on the block, had they been discovered as twins? Did Julie ever tell us that if one of them was evicted it was game over? Or, did everyone just ASSUME that if one was evicted it would be the end of their game? I don't recall anyone ever saying that if one of them was evicted, they'd both have to leave." The theme DNA=Do Not Assume pushes me to agree with you.   Top

CDNTARFAN 35 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-28-04, 05:05 PM (EST) 46. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." I think it was said by Julie that if Aidra was evicted on the night that Natalie was scheduled to be revieled that would constitute not being uncovered as a twin playing the game. So if Aidra had been on the block and evicted then Natalie would still have walked through the door. I think basically to have them loose would have been for someone to say in the diary room that Aidria is switching with here twin. On another note I really think that the 1/2 brother sister DNA twist was found out to fast for CBS and they may have wanted it to go on longer.   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-28-04, 05:22 PM (EST) 47. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >On another note >I really think that the >1/2 brother sister DNA twist >was found out to fast >for CBS and they may >have wanted it to go >on longer. They never counted on Cowboy being such a freekin moron. What an idiot he was to reveal this information to everyone! He could have used this information in private with Nikomas to form a secret aliance that could have been almost as strong as the twins. Instead, he tells his masters (Scott and Jace) only for them to think that he is either crazy or a liar. I have been watching the live feed for the past two days and the more I watch and listen to Cowboy the dumber he seems to get. Heck, maybe it's just me getting dumber for wasting my time watching them. Anyway, I was pulling for Nikomas or Cowboy to win but after watching them both unedited on the live feed I'd rather see Marvin, Diane or Drew win... in that order.   Top

motormouth 4507 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 08-28-04, 05:51 PM (EST) 48. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." You are right that cb could have used the fact that nak was his sister to his advantage. However, I don't think many people could have gotten over the shock quick enough to think strategically. *Courtesy of IceCat*   Top

Pez 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-29-04, 02:00 AM (EST) 52. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." >You are right that cb could >have used the fact that > nak was his sister >to his advantage. However, I >don't think many people could >have gotten over the shock >quick enough to think strategically. > Yeah, I guess your right, I'll cut Coboy some slack on that one. The prospect of being able to contact a father that I never knew might have made me say "screw this game" and leave the house immediately to see him.   Top

motormouth 4507 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 08-29-04, 02:17 AM (EST) 53. "RE: hypocrites, all of you..." I am not sure how I would have felt in their position but, I think I would have made more of an effort to get to know eachother. It seemed (edited really) like they just weren't that interested in the fact they are related. The strategic thinking may not have been an immediate response, but by getting closer, it could have been a good alliance,(as was posted earlier). I really doubt they will be very close after the game. Like you Pez, I would have been very tempted to walk out. *Courtesy of IceCat*   Top

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