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Sailor 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-11-00, 02:19 PM (EST) "The penis Alignment" At this point in the game, Richard, who is using his brain to win, will no doubt see that he must create a new alliance. He does not want to end up in a diametrically opposed situation. He must get rid of any other potential mini-alliance. With 5 castaways, better an alliance of three than one of four. I strongly feel he will develop an all male alliance. He knows that to win, the Tagi Alliance must break apart at some time. Better to break it now, when he can come out ahead, than when he must face two other like minded individuals, Sue and Rudy. He had the opportunity to form the new alliance, the Penis Alignment, on the yacht. Rich knows he has Rudy with him. He needs a surprise to come out ahead. That person is Sean. Rich percieves Sean as a drifter, not caring how his vote goes. He sees Susan as the biggest threat to form an opposing alliance. Therefore he has to get rid of her. (Depending on immunity, of course, which Sean has the best chance to win.) Rich cannot align with Kelly to get rid of Sue, Kelly would not do it. He has to bring Sean into a new alliance. Kelly is so mistrusted that noone would align with her at this point. (If Susan gets immunity, they all gun for Kelly, then the male alliance shows up next episode.) Next up is Kelly. Kelly is the other threat to immunity. If she gets immunity, Sean will go next. Rich and Rudy will use their votes to vote off the one with no immunity. It is doubtful that Kelly and Sean will vote together. The council of three will be decided by immunity. At that point, it is all chance. However, I don't think that Rich is percieved by the castaways as being as evil as he is portrayed. He seems to be engaging, accepting and gregarious. The jury may even grudgingly respect his intelligence at this point. Don't be so sure he will automatically be saved in the council of 3 as a person who will never win. I am not sure if I would want to go up against Rich in the final vote, and he may be the one with immunity. At that point, I think that both Sean and Rich would feel that they would stand a better chance against Rudy in the end. Sean, because Rudy was a TA member, Rich because Sean is seen as a randomly voting imbecile by the Pagong laden jury. That puts Rudy in the final two. Rudy has maintained a low profile, and as a result, takes the win. Fairytale?   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: The penis Alignment Sailor 08-11-00 1  RE: The penis Alignment needspeed 08-11-00 2  RE: The penis Alignment Conspiracy Jim 08-11-00 3    RE: The penis Alignment RDIheath 08-11-00 4  RE: The penis Alignment GangGreen 08-11-00 5

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Sailor 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-11-00, 02:35 PM (EST) 1. "RE: The penis Alignment" Last part, (see below) doesn't make much sense, does it? Ah well, the rest does, at least to me. At that point, I think that both Sean and Rich would feel that they would stand a better chance against Rudy in the end. Sean, because Rudy was a TA member, Rich because Sean is seen as a randomly voting imbecile by the Pagong laden jury. That puts Rudy in the final two.   Top

needspeed 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-11-00, 02:48 PM (EST) 2. "RE: The penis Alignment" LAST EDITED ON 08-11-00 AT 02:55 PM (EST) I agree. In addition, I think the Alliance was already being contemplated when Sean asked Richard to go on the yacht. Sean will be more willing to join one now (where he didn't with the TA) because (a) he knows the women hate him and he's next if he doesn't, and (b) he's very close to the million. Joining gives him a one in three chance as opposed to zero chance. Rich/Grimace comparison at http://www.angelfire.com/indie/brainingdamage for anybody interested.   Top

Conspiracy Jim 198 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 08-11-00, 03:56 PM (EST) 3. "RE: The penis Alignment" I can only partially agree with your muddled reasoning. Sure a "penis alliance" is a very strong possibility but there is one other. Lets look at the possibility of a penis alliance... Sean has obviously been a member of the Tagi Alliance this whole time and anyone, including yourself, that can't see that just has got to be all but blind. He voted for Greg, they voted for Greg... He voted for Gervase (not alphabetically I might add), they voted for Gervase... He voted for "Cooleen", they voted for Colleen, again not alphabetically. Do you think that it was just coincadence that he broke off the alpha voting just in time to save the Tagi Alliance? Wake up people... Did he happen to take Rich for breakfast because he caught the fish? Of course not, it's an alliance thing. He has been a Tagi plant the whole time and it worked (probably Rich's idea). And you can bet that the Pagong TC members know this by now. This does of course support the possibility of a penis alliance. Another thing to note is that Rich is not an idiot. He can probably see that his only chance of winning the Mill is against Sean. It is possible that he doesn't see this, but I couldn't see how. If Rich is against Kelly in the finals then Kelly would most definitely get the winning votes from Gervase, Colleen, Jenna, Greg, and possibly Susan - so he won't want that. Against Rudy he probably loses as Rudy would likely get Gervase, Colleen, Jenna and Greg's votes - so he won't wish that. Against Susan he has a decent chance but would probably lose as Greg, Kelly, Jenna and Colleen would probably give the Mill to her - so that's not good. And finally we have Sean... This would be rough for the Pagong members. We know that Jenna would likely vote Rich, as would Susan and most definitely Rudy. That means Rich would only need one of either Greg (could happen out of respect for the game), Colleen (likely not), Gervase (again, not likely) or Kelly (and boy she sure seems to hate that chest shaving buthead). Rich has obviously worked all of this out and since he controls at least 3 if not 4 of the votes you can bet that he, barring immunity, would want Sean in the finals. The only other scenerio that I can forsee is that of the main Tagi's (Rich, Rudy and Susan). If this is their plan, they would not want Sean in the final 4 as he is the strongest in regards to immunity. That would mean a final 4 of Rich, Susan, Rudy and Kelly with Kelly being voted out as soon as possible (again barring immunity). If Susan won the last immunity (sure, that could happen) then she would want to be up against Rich. Rudy loves Rich (not in a homosexual way) but enough to want to be up against him in the finals. Both scenerios almost guarantee Rich is one of the final 2 and if not up against Sean or possibly Susan you can bet he doesn't win the Mill. And through both of these Kelly never makes it past (again, barring immunity) the final 4 at best.   Top

RDIheath 59 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-11-00, 04:24 PM (EST) 4. "RE: The penis Alignment" I agree with you 100%. Sean was a member of the TA the entire time, AND I would speculate that there others in the TA that were not aware of this, mainly Kelly and possibly Susan, who know what she does and does not know. I have a feeling that Sean and Rich are also in their final two mode now, neither of them can be voted off now if they stick together due to the fact that unless Rudy jumps ship to side with Kelly and Susan at the next TC and vote off one or the other they cant go. I really dont see Rudy doing this unless his lay low mentality ( which is a good one) includes his pitting himself against Susan and Kelly and they " turn on the afterburners" so to speak and show them what a real navy seal is made of gaining immunity to take himself into the final two against one of the women or sean. He would surely gain the win over any of the three of them. Rich on the other hand is playing it smart keeping Sean in his pocket while keeping Rudy at his side. He might not be able to beat Rudy in a final vote but he would stand a good chance against both Sean and Susan. I would think that for him Kelly would be his best bet to banish at the next TC to quell any chance of the women trying to mount any attack . But what do I know, or any of for that matter now...everything is mere speculation from here on out.   Top

GangGreen 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-11-00, 05:02 PM (EST) 5. "RE: The penis Alignment" I absolutely agree -- except for that last part that doesn't make sense to me either. I think Sooz will go next episode (unless she's immune, then Kelly will go). This is because Susan could be a backstabber and a threat to Dicque. After that Rich will decide that (1) Sue has to go if she didn't the week before or (2) Kelly has to go. The final three are then Richard, Rudy and Sean -- who voted together against Sue and Kelly. No matter who gets the last immunity Richard is safe because he's closer to Rudy and Sean than Rudy and Sean are to each other (does that make sense? -- if Rudy gets immunity, Rich and Rudy vote Sean off; if Sean get's immunity, Sean and Rich vote Rudy off). If Susan or Kelly were left in the final three either one of them might backstab Richard -- especially Susan. The final two are then either Richard and Rudy, or Rich and Sean. Anything can happen because we don't really know what the jury thinks of them, but I think respect for how Richard "played the game" may be a factor. One final point -- I don't think that Sean was originally in the alliance. I think that he really is a naive doofus -- I was pre-med in college and know guys just like him who could pass any science exam given to them but had no common sense. I think that it appeared that Sean "voted with" the alliance so often because the alliance actually voted with Sean. Think about it --Sean announced who he was going to vote for, tagging along with him made voting out Pagoinggoinggone more certain. Sean was just used and never figured it out.   Top

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