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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-17-11, 09:30 PM (EST) "S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " ***WARNING!! SOURCED SPOILERS!!*** (Discussion includes references to "sourced spoilers" Antithesys (SSucks) has set up a thread specifically for Blackwhale sourced spoilers. The thread is exclusively for Blackwhale and will serve as a clean, concise collection point for his spoilers. Those interested in reading them can go here: http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/78624/Blackwhale-22-Leagues-Under-the-Sea There is really no reason to transcribe the posts since they will be posted there free of clutter and commentary. This thread is intended as a place to discuss Blackwhale's spoilers and confirm or question them based on other information we gather. Anti and TDT both seem to believe that Blackwhale is a fairly credible source. Blackwhale has already provided quite a bit of information, without reference to any specific boot order. I hope he continues to provide informations in a general way, leaving holes and questions for us to answer for ourselves. Krautboy   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    Summary as of 1/17 Krautboy 01-18-11 1    RE: Summary as of 1/17 PepeLePew13 01-18-11 2        RE: Summary as of 1/17 Krautboy 01-18-11 3  Blackwhale Chronology Krautboy 01-19-11 4    RE: Blackwhale Chronology Outfrontgirl 01-19-11 5        Andrea makes family visit? SquidProQuo 01-20-11 6            RE: Andrea makes family visit? SquidProQuo 01-20-11 7  Update as of 1/30 Krautboy 01-31-11 8    RE: Update as of 1/30 vince3 01-31-11 9        RE: Update as of 1/30 SquidProQuo 01-31-11 10            Blackwhale vs. Missyae Timeline Krautboy 01-31-11 12                RE: Blackwhale vs. Missyae Timeline Belle Book 01-31-11 13    RE: Update as of 1/30 SquidProQuo 01-31-11 11        Repackaged Spoilers? Krautboy 01-31-11 14  New Blackwhale Info Feb. 6 SquidProQuo 02-07-11 15    RE: New Blackwhale Info Feb. 6 SquidProQuo 02-07-11 16  Feb 7 posts SquidProQuo 02-08-11 17    Post-game photo of Rob SquidProQuo 02-09-11 18        RE: Post-game photo of Rob Flowerpower 02-09-11 19  RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... Flowerpower 02-17-11 20    RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... vince3 02-17-11 21        RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... Flowerpower 02-17-11 22            RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... Outfrontgirl 02-18-11 23                RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... sol 02-18-11 24                    RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... dabo 02-18-11 28                RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... kiki_k 02-18-11 25                    RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... Outfrontgirl 02-18-11 26                        RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... kiki_k 02-18-11 27                            RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler... Outfrontgirl 02-19-11 29  Strike 2 for BlackWhale... vince3 02-23-11 30  STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT! vince3 03-02-11 31    RE: STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT! SquidProQuo 03-02-11 32        RE: STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT! Outfrontgirl 03-02-11 33

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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-18-11, 02:48 AM (EST) 1. "Summary as of 1/17" Summary of the Blackwhale spoilers to date OMETEPE Rob... Makes the jury, but not F3, Outlasts Russell Andrea...??? Ashley... Outlasts Rob, her alliance partner Francesca... Late premerge Grant...??? Kristina... Won’t be too long for the game Matt...??? Natalie... One of the last two girls standing Phillip... Out early, pre-merge ZAPATERA Russell... Makes the jury, but not F3, possibly voted out at F11, but last long enough on RI to make the jury. Voted out before Rob David... Does fairly well Julie... Goes before the merge Krista... Outlasts Russell, her alliance partner Mike... Makes the merge Ralph... Early dismissal from the game, argument with Russell at TC Sarita... Final 8ish or better Stephanie... Early pre-merge, possibly Zapatera’s first boot. Steve... Voted out before the merge, but shouldn’t be counted out… Two people redeemed, one female,one male…one around the merge, one at F5. F10 is jury, 7 jury, 3 Finalists. Krautboy   Top

PepeLePew13 26135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-18-11, 08:07 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Summary as of 1/17" >Steve... Voted out before the merge, >but shouldn’t be counted out… > > >Two people redeemed, one female,one male…one >around the merge, one at F5. These two snippets would strongly suggest to me that Steve is the one male who is redeemed.   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-18-11, 05:18 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Summary as of 1/17" LAST EDITED ON 01-18-11 AT 05:28 PM (EST) Yes, and we can carry that further to conclude that Steve is the first redeemed, but that he does not make it to the second redemption, which is a female at F5. A female coming back at F5 means that males voted out prior to the F5 do not return to the game. If Natalie is one of the "last two females standing", she is either the redeemed female or one of the other F5. Futhermore, we can conclude that anyone besides Steve voted out before the merge will not make it back into the game and not make the jury. Krautboy   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-19-11, 00:22 AM (EST) 4. "Blackwhale Chronology" Here's an attempt at putting Blackwhale's spoilers in chronological order. This chronology assumes the tribes merge at 12 as per the True Dork Times Calendar. It also includes the assumption that Steve is voted out but returns to the game to be part of the merged tribe. Early Pre-merge Stephanie... Early pre-merge, possibly Zapatera’s first boot. Kristina... Won’t be too long for the game Phillip... Out early, pre-merge Pre-merge Ralph... Early dismissal from the game, argument with Russell at TC Julie... Goes before the merge Late Pre-merge Francesca... Late premerge Merge at 12 Mike... Makes the merge Steve... Voted out before the merge, but shouldn’t be counted out… Jury of 7 Russell... Makes the jury, but not F3, possibly voted out at F11, but last long enough on RI to make the jury. Voted out before Rob Krista... Outlasts Russell, her alliance partner Sarita... Final 8ish or better Rob... Makes the jury, but not F3, Outlasts Russell Ashley... Outlasts Rob, her alliance partner Natalie... One of the last two girls standing David... Does fairly well Unknown Andrea...??? Grant...??? Matt...??? It's interesting to note that Blackwhale has not said anything about three of the contestants, all from the Ometepe(Rob's tribe). Could it be that Blackwhale has inadvertantly given us the Final 3? Krautboy   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-19-11, 10:37 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Blackwhale Chronology" Thanks so much for compiling this. Matt = Fabio 2.0 Grant = Aras 2.0 Andrea = Danni 2.0? (she can do Survival stuff) Jeff's wet dream would have to be that Russell makes it at RI long enough for Rob to show up and for them to duel, and Rob beats Russell. Ashley and Natalie also have nothing in the wording to rule them out as Final 3. Neither does Krista, although surviving Russell leaves her a long stretch of unknown to get to F3.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 01-20-11, 02:15 AM (EST) 6. "Andrea makes family visit?" Just went over to Sucks to read the BW thread for myself and noticed there's a new poster named Hildy who says that Andrea makes Family Visit. Anti hasn't locked the thread and TDT is referencing it too, so sounds legit. KB, I agree, it's very interesting that there are 3 players that BW hasn't commented on yet. And thanks for compiling everything!   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 01-20-11, 02:32 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Andrea makes family visit?" P.S. Georjanna posted in another thread today that now that the lawsuit is over, Missyae will be giving an interview to Andy at Reality Blurred on Monday, and Missyae also posted "countdown to REAL spoilers" and "Oh just wait, BW has some splain' to do." Not sure if the reference to BW having some explaining to do is directly tied to S22 spoilers, but sounds like we need to stay tuned. It wouldn't be the first time Missyae has corrected/contradicted BW's spoilers.   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-31-11, 02:30 AM (EST) 8. "Update as of 1/30" Blackwhale added to his spoiler thread at SSucks. “We won't see Amber, but we WILL see a Boston Rob family member this season. He makes it to that particular reward challenge. Doesn't go too much further than that though. I was told that when Kristina is booted, it's an odd number tribal council, either the 3rd episode or the 5th.” “Forgot to mention, Natalie Tenerelli and Ashley Underwood work very well together!” “Matt Elrod is also a part of the core Ometepe alliance, which if you haven't yet figured out, does very well.” Summary of the Blackwhale spoilers to date as of 1/30. OMETEPE Rob... Makes the jury, but not F3, Outlasts Russell; we WILL see a Boston Rob family member this season. He makes it to that particular reward challenge. (family visit). Doesn't go too much further than that though. Andrea...??? Ashley... Outlasts Rob, her alliance partner; Natalie Tenerelli and Ashley Underwood work very well together! Francesca... Late premerge Grant...??? Kristina... Won’t be too long for the game; when Kristina is booted, it's an odd number tribal council, either the 3rd episode or the 5th. Matt... also a part of the core Ometepe alliance, which if you haven't yet figured out, does very well. Natalie... One of the last two girls standing; Natalie Tenerelli and Ashley Underwood work very well together! Phillip... Out early, pre-merge ZAPATERA Russell... Makes the jury, but not F3, possibly voted out at F11, but last long enough on RI to make the jury. Voted out before Rob David... Does fairly well Julie... Goes before the merge Krista... Outlasts Russell, her alliance partner Mike... Makes the merge Ralph... Early dismissal from the game, argument with Russell at TC Sarita... Final 8ish or better Stephanie... Early pre-merge, possibly Zapatera’s first boot. Steve... Voted out before the merge, but shouldn’t be counted out… Two people redeemed, one female,one male…one around the merge, one at F5. F10 is jury, 7 jury, 3 Finalists. Here's an updated chronology. This chronology still assumes the tribes merge at 12 as per the True Dork Times Calendar. It also includes the assumption that Steve is voted out but returns to the game to be part of the merged tribe. He timing of the merge and the question of one or two redemptions has yet to be resolved. Early Pre-merge Stephanie... Early pre-merge, possibly Zapatera’s first boot. Kristina... Won’t be too long for the game; when Kristina is booted, it's an odd number tribal council, either the 3rd episode or the 5th. Phillip... Out early, pre-merge Pre-merge Ralph... Early dismissal from the game, argument with Russell at TC Julie... Goes before the merge Late Pre-merge Francesca... Late premerge Merge at 12 Mike... Makes the merge Steve... Voted out before the merge, but shouldn’t be counted out… Jury of 7 Russell... Makes the jury, but not F3, possibly voted out at F11, but last long enough on RI to make the jury. Voted out before Rob Krista... Outlasts Russell, her alliance partner Sarita... Final 8ish or better Rob... Makes the jury, but not F3, Outlasts Russell; we WILL see a Boston Rob family member this season. He makes it to that particular reward challenge. (family visit). Doesn't go too much further than that though. David... Does fairly well, Ashley... Outlasts Rob, her alliance partner; , Natalie Tenerelli and Ashley Underwood work very well together! Natalie... One of the last two girls standing; Natalie Tenerelli and Ashley Underwood work very well together! Matt... also a part of the core Ometepe alliance, which if you haven't yet figured out, does very well. Unknown Andrea...??? Grant...??? Still no spoilers on either Andrea or Grant, both on Robs tribe. It’s also interesting to note that Missyae posted very similar spoilers at Survivor Skills the same day, but checking the time, it appears that Blackwhale posted earlier in the day…not sure what to make of this? The only thing Missyae posted that Blackwhale did not was…”Jeff Probst gave you the first boot”. A reference to the JP comments in his “Cast Assessments”. Krautboy   Top

vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-31-11, 03:31 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Update as of 1/30" LAST EDITED ON 01-31-11 AT 12:20 PM (EST) Not too surprising that we won't see Amber as Rob's family visit member: as of late they've had the family member be involved in the challenge in some form or fashion, and considering that Amber had her second kid a few days after Nicaragua's finale, that would mean that she was around 5-6 months pregnant at that time... I could be wrong, but previously when he made Family Visit time, didn't his brother come?   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 01-31-11, 10:54 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Update as of 1/30" Yes, Rob's brother came in All Stars. I agree, it would make sense for him to come since Amber is pregnant. KB, thanks for bringing the new BW stuff over. I just noticed that Missyae is starting to post more spoilers/clues at Survivor Skills. Do you want to start a new thread just for Missyae's info (vs. BW) or keep it combined for now? Here's some of the new Missyae info: "In fact he (Jeff) gave away a couple of very early boots. Rooster has a memorable TC this season. Ashley Underwood is da bomb. DO NOT underestimate the females this season. T n A will not stand for what it normally stands for in movies. T n A very good on 22. Are you kidding me of course Russell hooks up with a blonde. "Rob does outlast Russell, those rumors are true. Rob will get a great edit. Would shock me if he doest not win fan favorite "People looking at the T n A clue, just think about it having a double meaning" So A=Ashley and the nT= Natalie Tenerelli? I suppose the A could be Andrea too, but based on the rest of the clues it appears to Ashley.   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-31-11, 02:39 PM (EST) 12. "Blackwhale vs. Missyae Timeline" The battle for spoiling attention appears to be heating up between Blackwhale and Missyae. Here's a timeline of the recent posts from Blackwhale and Missyae. Blackwhale's posts are from his thread at SSucks and Missyae's from his thread at Survior Skills. The timetable suggests that Missyae may be taking the Blackwhale posts and repackaging them...or both Blackwhale and Missyae get their information at about the same time. January 10th Blackwhale: “Stephanie Valencia = Marisa Calihan? That may be so. Not quite sure if its Ometepe or Zapatera that goes to tribal council first, but when Zapatera goes, look for Stephanie to go quick. She and Russell clash” January 30th. Missyae 2:22pm: “Jeff Probst gave you the first boot” Blackwhale 2:27pm: “We won't see Amber, but we WILL see a Boston Rob family member this season. He makes it to that particular reward challenge. Doesn't go too much further than that though. I was told that when Kristina is booted, it's an odd number tribal council, either the 3rd episode or the 5th.” Blackwhale 2:31pm “Forgot to mention, Natalie Tenerelli and Ashley Underwood work very well together!” Missyae 2:51pm "In fact he (Jeff) gave away a couple of very early boots. Rooster has a memorable TC this season. Ashley Underwood is da bomb. DO NOT underestimate the females this season. T n A will not stand for what it normally stands for in movies. T n A very good on 22. Are you kidding me of course Russell hooks up with a blonde. Missyae: 3:07pm "Rob does outlast Russell, those rumors are true. Rob will get a great edit. Would shock me if he doest not win fan favorite Missyae 3:31pm "People looking at the T n A clue, just think about it having a double meaning" Blackwhale 5:03pm “Matt Elrod is also a part of the core Ometepe alliance, which if you haven't yet figured out, does very well.” January 31, 2011 Missyae 11/29am “BW is wrong about Melanie Hantz not being contacted. She was contacted and told her trip was off. She was ready to leave.” Blackwhale's post at 2:31pm appears to have been repackaged as Missyae's post at 2:51pm...Does Missyae still have a source or this an attempt at staying in the spotlight and pretending to be a viable sourced spoiler? Krautboy   Top

Belle Book 3613 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 01-31-11, 05:51 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Blackwhale vs. Missyae Timeline" Stephanie should really know better than to clash with the Troll at the first Tribal Council -- at least, not before she has some allies who can help her out. Samoa was Troll's first time and nobody knew what he was like then, so Marisa's error is somewhat understandable, but Stephanie presumably has seen Troll in action, so she should know better.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 01-31-11, 11:04 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Update as of 1/30" The only thing Missyae posted that Blackwhale did not was…”Jeff Probst gave you the first boot”. A reference to the JP comments in his “Cast Assessments”. So this appears to be another indication that Zapatera loses the 1st IC and goes to TC 1st. P.S. Here are Jeff's exact words from the cast assessment transcript: "Stephanie Valencia, if I'm right, will be one of the first people voted out, if not the first."   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-31-11, 08:19 PM (EST) 14. "Repackaged Spoilers?" Blackwhale posted about Stephanie back on January 10th. Missyae recently confirmed, or perhaps just repackaged Blackwhales post in his recent post at SSkills, which said "Jeff Probst gave you the first boot." January 10th Blackwhale: “Stephanie Valencia = Marisa Calihan? That may be so. Not quite sure if its Ometepe or Zapatera that goes to tribal council first, but when Zapatera goes, look for Stephanie to go quick. She and Russell clash” Missyae's posts for this season have been mainly confirmations of others information and it's not clear if Missyae really has any access to sourced spoilers anymore. Krautboy   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 02-07-11, 03:45 PM (EST) 15. "New Blackwhale Info Feb. 6 " Here's the latest BW post on 2/6: "I have read that there have been foreign versions that have done their own versions of redemption island in the past. Looks like it's been pretty epic in some of those - apparently a first boot won them all and found themselves a spot in the final 2? "(RI) Won't be as epic in S22. No major winning streaks. Those who return are voted off not long before the reentry point, win 1 or 2, and are back. "I hear that Rob makes final 5 but per the call sheets, there are two final fives, so he could ultimately finish at 6th place. Looks like he's going to fall at plus or minus 1 day of the 114 day record set by Parvati. He might go as high as 4th place. I have reason to believe he goes out when 5 are left though. "Look for 8th place to be either Matt or Mike. "I haven't yet mentioned Andrea or Grant because I haven't heard too much. I know the Andrea family visit info is out there and from what I hear, it's probably true, but I'll let hildy's info stand on its own until I can get some better info independently. I won't piggyback off it like missyae did!!"   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 02-07-11, 07:16 PM (EST) 16. "RE: New Blackwhale Info Feb. 6 " P.S. I like getting cryptic clues, but don't some of these latest clues seem a bit odd? E.g., Matt or Mike in 8th place. They're on different teams and don't look at all alike, so why the indecision? Is it because of RI and the whole returnee thing? Just makes me a bit leery of the accuracy overall and reminds me of the goofup last time. I tend to agree with FloPo that we shouldn't take everything BW says at face value, especially as BW himself seems to be hedging his bets on much of the recent info. Would love to be able to ask BW if it's because of RI.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 02-08-11, 02:16 AM (EST) 17. "Feb 7 posts " Here are a few new BW posts dated 2/7: Re Mike or Matt in 8th place, another Sucks poster said: Could it not be as simple as 'hunky guy finishes eighth' ?? If Grant is gone before jury, that leaves M & M. Mike could still be eighth, leaving Matt for F3. BW response: "That is actually how I heard it. Some of the initial buzz was that Rob only beats Russell by a little bit - i.e. finishes in 8th. But as information fleshed out, it turned out not to be Rob, and I heard it was one of the other buff white guys that's actually 8th. I believe it's probably Mike at 8, but Matt's still a possibility based on the limited info I have on the subject. Matt's definitely involved in the Rob's Angels alliance." 2/7 - 9:05pm: Matt, Ashley and Natalie may have actually hung out pretty recently.   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 02-09-11, 06:02 PM (EST) 18. "Post-game photo of Rob" Came across this photo of Rob on Survivor Skills. According to Missyae, this is a post-game fan photo. Compared to his pre-game photo(s), it certainly looks like Rob lost significant weight, which lends more credence to him making it late into the game:   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-09-11, 08:22 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Post-game photo of Rob" Thanks for posting, Squid! He sure does look ALOT thinner....WWWOOOOOHOOOOO!   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-17-11, 06:09 PM (EST) 20. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " I would just like to ask what everyone is thinking about the BW spoilers now? Late pre-merge is significantly removed from first boot. I'm wondering who his source is and how far removed they are, or is someone leading BW down the garden path?   Top

vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-17-11, 08:04 PM (EST) 21. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " With Redemption Island in play, though, he has a second chance: She could 'run the table' for a while and almost make it to about merge time while being on Redemption Island...   Top

Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-17-11, 08:44 PM (EST) 22. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " Vince: You make a good point and one that Krautboy had alluded to earlier....I suppose we'll have to give it the test of time.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-18-11, 01:14 AM (EST) 23. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " Except that blackwhale also said that no one runs the table at RI. BW-- "No major winning streaks. Those who return are voted off not long before the reentry point, win 1 or 2, and are back." (He says two return, one female, one male, which contradicts what Jeff and Mark say). I suppose that Francesca could win two duels, go out in Ep 5, and technically be in the later half of the pre-merge. But BW has identified the following as out early -- Stephanie, Ralph, Kristina, Phillip. To be OUT later than them, Francesca would have to beat them all in duels and last until Ep 7 at minimum. Maybe she will ... In any event, BW has been very sloppy, making no distinguishment between between being voted out and losing the duel when it comes to his placement discussions. By sloppy, I mean sloppy by not making it clear that if he knows or doesn't know which it is. Without a distinction, all his placement assessments are worthless.   Top

sol 219 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 02-18-11, 01:27 AM (EST) 24. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " Just a wild guess, but I think that one person will return to the game just before the double boot episode.   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-18-11, 12:02 PM (EST) 28. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " The logistics are killer here. With 18 players they almost have to have a two-boot cycle, preferably with both pre-merge tribes going to TC in the same cycle. But if someone returns to the game from RI pre-merge the most logical place for that to happen would be immediately after the dual TCs, leaving the dual boots to duel each other to remain on RI. But then they almost need a two-boot cycle again. But what is good for the game (challenging twist) conflicts with what is good for the television production (drama). The best places for production to return a player to the game are at reshuffled tribes, the merge, and late in game after Pagonging. One factor to consider, when RI has run its course and can no longer be a consideration, this is a virtual two-boot cycle. Two players on RI duel, one goes out, one returns to the game, the cycle ends with TC where booted player is automatically out of the game.   Top

kiki_k 1444 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 02-18-11, 02:38 AM (EST) 25. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " I don't know Blackwhale, so I'm not *trying* to defend him, but the Redemption Island is a total monkey wrench as far as spoiling goes, so I can *kind* of excuse his sloppiness.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-18-11, 04:32 AM (EST) 26. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " Well here's the thing with slop, and I suppose I hate it more because I was in academia. The way I was taught, when you don't know, you make it clear that you don't know. You state that it may be this or that, which gives people a way to avoid being sandbagged when you are wrong. Like with Francesca, if you don't know what later half of pre-merge refers to, the vote or the boot, then say so. Don't say it so that people who read you take Francesca off the table for first boot because there are four other players listed as very early or maybe first. Like one of his spoilers is Matt or Mike at F8. Then someone else says, oh maybe it was told as "hunky guy." Then he says, yes, that's about what I heard. So he didn't get a name at all. Then he should say so. I hate it when a spoiler alters the source spoiler by incorporating his/her own conclusions without saying so. As an example, when I went to the Cooks, I talked to someone a little about the Aitu reward. He mentioned the Jamaican girl. I was quite sure logically that it was Sundra, but I didn't post that Sundra was at the reward, because that's not what I was told for sure. I said Jamaican girl. That allowed other people to work on who it could be. blackwhale royally screwed up that pole-sitting immunity by saying Parvati won. He never said he didn't know this as an absolute fact, so we never looked at Danielle. This is how his spoilers bug me. If you don't know, SAY SO.   Top

kiki_k 1444 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 02-18-11, 05:04 AM (EST) 27. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " LAST EDITED ON 02-18-11 AT 05:08 AM (EST) I basically agree with you -- especially about previous season's spoilers from Blackwhale. Like I said, I'm not trying to defend him I'm only willing to cut him a little slack this time because of RI -- it is possible he got info re: Francesca going "later half of pre-merge"(or whatever his exact words are) without getting any info about her also being first to RI. It is possible that she comes back in & then gets booted again so he could be 1/2 right about her. {shrugs} I just think RI is going to screw spoiling up big time. eta: I'm also thinking the "first boot" spoilers may be based on who shows up at Loser's Lounge first. For example, if Stephanie gets booted next time, loses to Francesca on RI, Stephanie would be the first person showing up at Loser's Lounge. Hence, the spoilers having her as the "first boot." So, like I said -- RI has the potential to be messing up the spoilers.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-19-11, 03:42 AM (EST) 29. "RE: S22: Blackwhale Sourced Spoiler Discussion " It all depends on who is the source. When cast members are the source, they have it straight. If the source were the maids at Loser Lodge (hypothetical) or local observations, then they could be confused. If crew members, they should know what is going on where. Things get fuzzy when they trickle down through too many people. missyae had very direct source(s). I think blackwhale's are much less so.   Top

vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-23-11, 10:47 PM (EST) 30. "Strike 2 for BlackWhale..." Matt was allegedly tight in the core Ometepe alliance and since it did well, he would go far.... *buzzer* The only way he's going far now is if he's Redeemed... and right now, one of BW's spoiler/spec is gonna be automatically wrong because one that supposed to go very far, or one that's supposed to get close to the merge will be the first one completely eliminated from the game at the start of next week's show.   Top

vince3 17341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-02-11, 10:31 PM (EST) 31. "STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT!" Final 11? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! In order for RussHell to make the jury, he has to do what was said didn't happen: go on a MAJOR RI duel run.... So far, nobody that was spec'd to be an early exit has even seen Redemption Island... even as a spectator... So either Blackwhale got his info Bass Ackwards... or he got royally played. I'm betting on the latter, and therefore, the source spoilers for this season should be considered DEAD, pretty much...   Top

SquidProQuo 2526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 03-02-11, 10:57 PM (EST) 32. "RE: STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT!" Could BW be a CBS plant? There was always something fishy (no pun intended) about him I recall reading somewhere on Survivor Skills a while back that Blackwhale is the name of a bar in Nicauragua near where they taped the season.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-02-11, 11:34 PM (EST) 33. "RE: STRIKE 3, YOU'RE OUT!" The show hasn't aired on the West Coast yet, so mum on tonight's outcome ... Squid, blackwhale first appeared during HvV, before the Nicaragua location was a factor. I think he liked the whales they used as beauty shots. I agree, his source is crap for this season. At least partially crap if not pure. Fine with me because even when he was pretty good, he was sketchy and uneven.   Top

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