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"E3: Twisty Challenge"
Looks like a Palau recycle with a twist.










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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: E3: Twisty Challenge emydi 09-23-06 1
 RE: E3: Twisty Challenge michel 09-23-06 2
   RE: E3: Twisty Challenge emydi 09-23-06 3
       RE: E3: Twisty Challenge michel 09-23-06 5
 RE: E3: Twisty Challenge xwraith27 09-23-06 4
   RE: E3: Twisty Challenge emydi 09-23-06 6
       RE: E3: Twisty Challenge xwraith27 09-23-06 7
           RE: E3: Twisty Challenge Flowerpower 09-23-06 8
               RE: E3: Twisty Challenge xwraith27 09-23-06 9
                   RE: E3: Twisty Challenge Flowerpower 09-24-06 10
                   RE: E3: Twisty Challenge Brownroach 09-25-06 14
                       RE: E3: Twisty Challenge xwraith27 09-25-06 28
 RE: E3: Twisty Challenge VolcanicGlass 09-25-06 11
   RE: E3: Twisty Challenge Flowerpower 09-25-06 12
       RE: E3: Twisty Challenge Velcrohead 09-25-06 13
 PIP Vidcaps... Flowerpower 09-25-06 15
   RE: PIP Vidcaps... Brownroach 09-25-06 16
       RE: PIP Vidcaps... Sonicbluebird 09-25-06 18
       RE: PIP Vidcaps... Flowerpower 09-25-06 22
       RE: PIP Vidcaps... tribephyl 09-25-06 24
   RE: PIP Vidcaps... emydi 09-25-06 17
   PIP vidcaps? Brownroach 09-25-06 19
       RE: PIP vidcaps? michel 09-25-06 20
           RE: PIP vidcaps? Brownroach 09-25-06 21
               RE: PIP vidcaps? Flowerpower 09-25-06 23
               RE: PIP vidcaps? emydi 09-25-06 25
   RE: PIP Vidcaps... sylvanlakes 09-25-06 26
       RE: PIP Vidcaps... xwraith27 09-25-06 27
           RE: PIP Vidcaps... Brownroach 09-26-06 32
 Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo VolcanicGlass 09-26-06 29
   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... xwraith27 09-26-06 30
       RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Flowerpower 09-26-06 31
           RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... PhillyBrat 09-26-06 33
           RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-26-06 34
               RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Flowerpower 09-26-06 35
                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-26-06 36
                       RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... PhillyBrat 09-26-06 37
                           RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 38
                               RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... michel 09-26-06 39
                                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-26-06 40
                                       RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 42
                                           RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-26-06 43
                                               RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 44
                                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 41
                                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Flowerpower 09-26-06 45
                                       RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... michel 09-26-06 46
                                           RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-26-06 47
                                               RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 48
                                                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-26-06 50
                                                       RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 51
                                                           RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Flowerpower 09-26-06 52
                                                               RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... emydi 09-26-06 53
                                                                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Brownroach 09-27-06 54
                                               RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... Flowerpower 09-26-06 49
                                                   RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Prom... michel 09-27-06 55

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emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-06, 06:27 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-06 AT 06:42 PM (EST)

what twist?

Before I saw this, I thought maybe they would break into 3 tribes with a double boot for the 2 losing tribes, this looks like 2 at first glance, I hate these PIP promos, too grainy!!


Tribe 1

FOr sure (bc of hugs in first caps)

Cece
Jonathan
Yul
Flicka

then Jenny
Cao Boi

behind Jon and Cece in challenge

That is 6 (a complete team if 3 with 3 Puka 2 Raro 1 Aitu 0 Hiki)

But it looks like there's more people in first pics that are not Jenny and Cao Boi so it appears to be a two tribe merge..


Are these 2 also on Jon's tribe or are they just waiting to be picked for tribe or however they get there... JP still has his red buff on his head

Ozzy (and his hair )
Jp

I think it's pre merge .. waiting bc of the red buff...or is THE BUFFOMATIC out or do they become Aitu?

I need more time to try to tell I hate these fuzzy pics!!



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09-23-06, 06:30 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
Thanks VG: I'm not sure about the challenge but we see the new tribes. In red I see: Jonathan, Flicka, Cecilia, Brad and Cao Boi.
I'm going to guess that the other team is blue and Sundra and Yul appear to be on it. I can't make out any others.

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3. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"

Mich this looks like Yul (who is taller than Brad) on Flicka's and Jon's team...who is the one on the far right a woman....

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09-23-06, 06:46 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
It could very well be Yul but I think he is here in back of the line with Sundra (or Rebecca?) in front with a Blue buff but that is a guess:

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09-23-06, 06:38 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-06 AT 06:43 PM (EST)

Here's what I see:



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6. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-06 AT 07:00 PM (EST)

I immediately saw Yul when I looked NO ? Brad is not that tall..but it looks like it cd be Yul in Sundra's boat./

Are you sure it's Ozzy? THe hair? Thanks I think you are right on about Candice...

With Jenny and Cai boi in challenge

it's 4-5 m-w bc two m are gone

Flicka
Candice
Yul/Brad
Cece
Jon
Cai Boi
Jenny
Ozzy?
Just one Hiki Yikes for the Woman Steph/Rebecca

Where are the Hiki?

THen it appears in challenge

Sundra
Adam
Parvati (when Candice is away, Parvati will play)
Jp
Cristina
Becky
Brad/Yul
Nate
Steph/Rebecca


If you replace Yul then Nate Adam JP and Yul are all on same team the most buff (no pun intended)

Brad and Ozzy are less so but close..

If it is then will it be another Ulong/Koror split? will the same result occur?


Could that be Adam Jp and ? in water? Nate is supposed to feed his NEW tribe with fish...


Vg did not post all of them, or Phoenix has more up now and this buff lightening THE BUFFOMATIC RETURNS!!

Who is Adam talking to

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09-23-06, 06:53 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-06 AT 07:06 PM (EST)

I was looking at the vidcaps again, and yes, that's definitely Ozzy. He's wearing the same shirt here:

As for the person hugging Candice, I'm leaning for it towards Brad. The guy in the blue buff (in the Rebecca?-Parvati? challenge shot) fits Yul more than any other castaway. And I don't think Yul's that much taller than Brad. I think he's wider (broader shoulders, more muscular), but he can't be more than 4 inches taller than Brad, IMO.

As for who Adam is talking to, I'm gonna say it's either Parvati or Cristina. At least I think it's female (just because of the way he/she wears his/her buff).

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8. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-06 AT 08:25 PM (EST)

GREAT Job guys! You have almost nailed the shuffle tribes! I agree with Xwraith, I think that Brad is in the shot with Flicka, Candice, Jonathan, Cecilia, Ozzy, and I think that you can see some yellow in between Jonathan and Ozzy in that pic as well, and that's probably Jenny(?) or could it be Sundra?

Now in the vidcap below, I see:

Flicka(with buff on head), Cowboy, Ozzy, Brad, Cecilia, Someone, Jonathan (don't see Candice or Sundra in this shot)

To me it looks as though they will be put into two tribes, the red and the blue. The red tribe is Flicka/Jonathan/Ozzy etc.
Blue tribe: Yul, Becky, Adam, Parvati, Nathan, Rebecca, Stephannie, JP, Cristina

ETA: A few more vidcaps....looks like the blue tribe catches the red tribe....as here we see Adam catching up...

Could this be Adam/JP/Yul?









Is that Adam on the blue team catching up with the red team, Brad specifically???

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9. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-06 AT 09:25 AM (EST)

The fishing shots look like Nathan, JP, and Brad to me. Nathan and JP are shown here:

And Brad on the right here:

I'll also have to retract my statement that it was Jenny in the challenge shots with Jonathan, Cecilia, and CaoBoi. It's actually Sundra. Her cornrows are much more prominent in this image:

I agree, FP that this pic shows Adam and JP(?) catching up with/tackling CaoBoi and Yul(?). I suppose we'll just have to wait for more vidcaps to really see what they're doing. We do know that they're carrying bags. BTW, what Palau challenge does this resemble? I didn't watch all episodes of S10.

Edited to remove my tribal composition speculation. KO made a great call and made a new thread for it.

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09-24-06, 09:35 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
Yes, Xwraith, I agree with you....in the fishing vidcaps it's Nathan, JP, and Brad catching that octopus for their new tribe, the blue tribe.

Then in the challenge shots that is Sundra with the red tribe, and I think the blue tribe is catching the red tribe...looks like the blue tribe will win this challenge. So what challenge is it? The RC, the IC, or a combined RC/IC?


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09-25-06, 11:34 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
It was a challenge where they had to carry various increments of weights while moving along a circular rope. The tribes started out slowly on opposite sides of the circle. Eventually you had to try to speed up; the tribe that caught up to the other tribe was the winner. You could drop out along the way but only if you loaded your weight onto another tribemate first. BobbyJon ended up carrying almost all the weight for Ulong.



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09-25-06, 11:13 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-25-06 AT 11:23 PM (EST)

Thanks, BR! I can definitely see that challenge (or a variation of it) happening in these caps.

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12. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
It looks as though the red/aitutaki tribe is expending alot more energy, all "racing", while the younger, blue, Rarotongas are practically walking upright.

Also, something to note is that it is clear that all of the aitutaki, red tribe is decorated in paint. So clearly this is the first challenge post merge. But, is it one big combined RC/IC as it has been the past two weeks or is this a RC?

When are they going to start the traditional RC/IC's?


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13. "RE: E3: Twisty Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 09-25-06 AT 11:34 AM (EST)


It looks as though the red/aitutaki tribe is expending alot more energy, all "racing", while the younger, blue, Rarotongas are practically walking upright.

Which probably could be interpreted either way, I suppose, FP. Maybe Rarotonga are taking a quick breather before a surge to catch up with Aitutaki who, in turn, are running in an attempt to widen the closing gap. Equally, Rarotonga may be walking because they've over-extended themselves in narrowing the distance and are now spent. Seeing this invigorates Aitutaki and they spring into action.

Remember, the challenge is less about strength than stamina. JP (or possibly Adam), who is heading the pack for Aitutaki, with Nathan behind him, seem to be carrying most, if not all, of the weight, thus making the team top/front heavy.

I will concede that the more youthful Aitutaki tribe should physcially have the advantage, though, and that the pics above imply that as well.

As to whether this is a combined challenge, perhaps they skip reward because of the merge and switch. Off the top of my head I can't remember what's been done in the past but perhaps they get a basket of goodies in lieu to 'celebrate' the change?


VH
*edited to answer the RC/IC question*

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15. "PIP Vidcaps..."
There are a few more frames from the PIP vidcaps that really have me wondering...The PIP vidcaps are from the second set of vidcaps aired, directly after the preview vidcaps shown at the end of the show.

Here are caps of someone unloading their load on the Aitutaki tribe....it could be OZZY? perhaps. Why is he throwing off the sack and not handing it to someone else and WHAT are they doing in the group seen in the background? Something with the fencing? Unhooking from the fencing? I think these belts are the same belts that tehthered them altogether in the obstacle course challenge that we saw last week...






Another part of that same PIP promo that really makes me wonder are these shots of Jenny that the PIP promo ended with. What is she doing....and doesn't she look as though she is sneaking something, and why is it in this promo??? In the web promo that was right after the show(the previews), there was a single shot of Jenny....why does she belong in these promos???




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16. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
LAST EDITED ON 09-25-06 AT 02:45 PM (EST)

Did we make anything of this cap yet?

They look like they're being very careful not to drop what they are holding.

ETA: TDT thinks they are bring back tree mail. Pretty weird tree mail, all four of them are carrying something.


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18. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
When the merge, don't they normally get some food? My guess is that this the the goodwill food offering.
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09-25-06, 06:38 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
Tree mail likely contains body paint to prepare them pre-merger. I think this could be the guys just carrying in large clams/conchs/mollusks/and maybe some coconuts too???

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24. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
They look like rocks to me.

Maybe in TreeMail they were given the rocks as symbols of what will be used in the bags that they will have to carry for the challenge.

Or, since this is newRaro, then maybe they're finally working together to get the camp at least somewhat presentable for the new tribemembers. Say rocks for a new fire-pit?

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17. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
That's Sundra, not Jenny



I made the same mistake with the other PIP in water!

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19. "PIP vidcaps?"
Could Sundra be on exile island there? She's dressed the same as in the challenge and I think her red buff is still around her neck. I don't know what that thing she's in front of is, though.

Not sure if she's there, but if so, I see a way a Sundra exile could happen. If Raro wins the challenge, suppose they switch it up and have the winning tribe pick the exile (who will presumably miss TC). With nine people to make a decision, they might have everyone cast a vote. If everyone votes for someone from their own original tribe, Sundra could count on three votes from the Hikis -- that could be enough.


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20. "RE: PIP vidcaps?"
FP about the cap where Ozzy(?) throws off a bag, could it be after the challenge? He could have been at the front of Aitu but when Raro caught the tail of Aitu, he was left alone in picture and threw his bag in disgust. The people seen in back could be Raro's caboose, relaxing after Adam jumped on the trailing Aitu.

I like the idea of Sundra being spared by being exiled.

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21. "RE: PIP vidcaps?"
That seems like a good bet. I don't know how much rope-length they have between them, but if Ozzy is leading the Aitus, he may have pulled ahead of whomever was remaining in his pack at the end, only to turn around and see them get tagged, and then threw down his bags in frustration.


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23. "RE: PIP vidcaps?"
Thanks Michel and BR...certainly sounds plausable to me! Definately looks like Ozzy to me.



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25. "RE: PIP vidcaps?"
I don't think they would recycle the BJ carries all the weight challenge so soon...I think it's a race with 2 distinct lines


But I'm always wrong on challenges so whaddo I know


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26. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."

Isn't Sundra just in front of the tarp, maybe tightening the rope?

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27. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
I agree sylvan... and welcome to the boards!

If Sundra is sent to exile, I don't think this picture proves it. That's definitely a tent that Sundra is in front of, and we know there aren't any in Exile Island.

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32. "RE: PIP Vidcaps..."
You're probably right, but the question as FP said is why did they stick this in the preview? Does it mean anything? Dunno...


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29. "Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
Note Rebecca's body language.





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30. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
From bored to incredulous:


Rebecca seems to be somewhat of a highlight this coming episode

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31. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 09-26-06 AT 07:38 AM (EST)

Okay, there are certainly alot of questions left to answer before showtime, folks! Well, clearly it looks as though the new Rarotongas are winning this challenge, and at this point it really looks as though there is only one challenge yet again. This leads us to question number one:
1.Why would EPMB show us the winner of the only challenge?
2. Why is Rebecca shocked and featured, and why does she look so "stiff" and "pissed" when her new tribe wins the RC/IC?

Could it be because she is still reeling from being separated from her new alliance mate, Sundra? Is she finding herself odd woman out in her new tribe....Parvati is all over Nathan, perhaps and he's eating it up, and Stephannie is bonding with the others, and she's not?
3. What could Parvati possibly be telling Rebecca that has her reacting that way?
4. Is there a particular reason that she is featured like this in the vidcaps, is she a boot, an evictee, or just misdirection?

Here are a few more appearances by Rebecca in the vidcaps:


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33. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
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>>1.Why would EPMB show us the
>winner of the only challenge?

What if the challenge is to take the items out of the other team's bag. It is set up like Palau 2.0. But as opposed to giving your weight to someone else, once you "loose" your weight you are gone from the challenge?

Thus Raro Is cheering because they took another player out of the challenge from the other tribe? Meaning they could still loose if the Aitu remaining members take the "shells" outta the remaining Raro?


I dono im just throwing this out there.

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34. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I don't think Rebecca necessarily looks pissed in the hi-five caps -- she's clapping. She looks tired, maybe she's the last of the women to drop out.


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35. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I don't think Rebecca necessarily looks pissed in the hi-five caps -- she's clapping. She looks tired, maybe she's the last of the women to drop out.

You may be right, BR, and Rebecca is reported to be the most athletic of the girls at old Hiki...Nathan commented on her strength in the insider, I think...

So, after newRaro wins they could well indeed send someone from the other tribe to EI, who would be protected from the impending TC....OR, the new Aitu's would get to pick someone from the new Raro's to go to EI. I think Sundra could be a very valid pick as her three tribe mates are on new Raro.

If the newAitu's, the losers, get to pick then who would they want to punish, or how could they best hurt their team? I would think they would want to remove one of the big strong leaders of the tribe...a male perhaps, or would Ozzy suggest Cristina? Adam? Nathan? JP? Brad?

Then, what will be the pre-TC dynamics over at newAitu? Will they want to dump someone annoying to the group(Cowboy), or will they want to dump someone who is hurting them in challenges, the weak one? Cecilia/Flicka....remember, Jonathan tries to get Flicka in an alliance and she doesn't see the need...could she be our boot?

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36. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
Right now I am leaning toward Flicka as the boot, based on that blurb in the misdirection.

Ideally someone should be targetted from one of the original tribes that still has all five people there: Rarotonga or Puka Puka. Each of those tribes has 3 people on new Aitu. Sundra should be completely safe since she can be useful as a floater. One possibility is that she and Ozzy and Cecilia team up and ally with either the Pukas or the Raros against the other one.

Although the blurb says Jonathan gets frustrated with Flicka, so it may not break down strictly according to original tribe. But whatever, I think Flicka and Cao Boi are the two likely targets on Aitu.


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37. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
Although the blurb says Jonathan gets frustrated with Flicka, so it may not break down strictly according to original tribe. But whatever, I think Flicka and Cao Boi are the two likely targets on Aitu.


Could Jonathan be working to get Flicka's vote to keep himself in the game? And Flicka just dosen't get it? Or choose NOT to get it?

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38. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
FWIW, I think Flicka and Cao Boi are safe...I think it's misdirection..I would hate to be handed everything so easily, so I'm hoping that last week was an anomoly and we get back to hidden boots. If NewAitu is the loser, I see Cece as the boot.

The 3 Raros stick together...Flicka is flighty but Jon will bring her around imho. Candice is smarter and knows to stick with him.

The 3 Pukas stick together...Yul and Becky are smart enough (unlike Ozzy and JP) to realized Cao Boi is a vote with them and a shield later on..similar to Aras and later Ciriewith Shane.

Ozzy is smart enough to go with Yul et al in Puka and they need his strength bc they have the two older men Jon and Cao Boi

That leaves Sundra and Cece--based on editing (or Sundra going to EI) I don't see Sundra leaving yet. Too much unresolved issues whereas Cece was mainly shown as a back up for Cristina. I see her having more staying power than Cece...hence my pick.


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09-26-06, 01:53 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
Unless they send Candice to Loser Lodge to join her prince! Wouldn't that be a cruel punishment.

Emy: The only reservation I have is that Cecilia seems like she is stronger than the ex-Raro girls. Sundra was a non-entity but could be saved either because she also looks strong or could be on EI.

Could Jon's problem with Flicka be because she was convinced to join a women's alliance in booting Cao Boi? They are 5 women after all. (Cece's strong arm tactics (!) seemed over the top in that vidcap but who knows!) Somehow I see Candice and Cao Boi as the ones in danger, although I wouldn't put Flicka and Cece on any safelists.

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40. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
The thing about Cecilia is that she should have been the least conspicuous member of original Aitu to the tribe itself -- Cristina and Ozzy had disagreements, Billy loafed, JP basically echoed Ozzy -- Cecilia was in the mix but she didn't make any waves. Now she has nine people to blend in with. What would she suddenly do to make herself a target?

And I don't think any of the women would be faulted for doing poorly in this challenge; it would be expected that they'd drop out early.



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09-26-06, 02:11 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
it's that darn defiant vidcap in the water...she may be seen as the catalyst of a women's alliance and since its 5-4 and Becky is with Yul et al. That could be enough.

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43. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
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But who knows what they're doing in that cap? Probst said Cecilia was the type that would use her physical assets to get ahead; last week she was stroking JP's knee at TC. I just don't see her deciding to organize a women's alliance.


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44. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I don't know, I just got a huge vibe when I saw it and Cece is the one we're supposed to notice. Maybe she felt empowered by Cristina and wants to emulater her....she did say she saw her as a role model. Cristina would def. try to do that, esp. if she was in a minority on a new tribe, which Cece is.

I don't think Sundra or Cao Boi are going anywhere for a while, so for me it's one of Cece, Flicka or Candice. Candice agrees with Jon so she's out for this week so it comes down to Flicka or Cece. I think Flicka has a better editing vibe and her story is not over. Cece doesn't have a story of her own yet. Possibly her whole story is in Ep. 3


But I did pick Candice last week and you were dead on with Billy pick...so...take this FWIW

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41. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
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So they try to get Jon to counteract your gal Becky going with the men, then why doesn't Cece et al. just go after Becky as a woman turncoat? Why Cao Boi, just bc he's annoying? He seems pretty strong in the challenges, plus he gives out great red marks

I think Jon tries to convince Flicka and Candice that they need to stick with the strong (ie Yul et al) for now. Candice knows she should stay with Jon (again as shield) and not rock the boat..she isn't in the women's group hug so.... Flicka may or may not agree with Jon (but if she is smart she would...whoops there goes my theory ) But then Jon tells the men and Becky of new Aitu about Cece's women alliance and they change their vote to her over any perceived lesser woman. Ozzy doesn't care about anyone but himself so he won't try to stop them or divert it to someone else. Plus Ozzy likes to nip any dissension in bud.. he is a minority now so he needs to stay the course of the majority (ie Yul)


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45. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
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Somehow I see Candice and Cao Boi as the ones in danger,

Just really curious as to how Candice got high on your list, michel? She's really not in the vidcaps at all, as you have noted, she has not done anything really negative in the past(except if you count that she's aligned with a lazy, alpha male)...she's practically absent from the vidcaps...not that I would put that past EPMB, but usually there is a little more of the bootee than this.

I think we also can not discount Sundra....other than RUMORS that she's done better, we don't know. There is no valid source that tells us she goes farther. If she doesn't get exiled, than she would be the "easiest" choice....she's all alone on that tribe...she's female, may be weaker...ANDshe is all over the vidcaps...

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46. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
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New Aitu has the three players seen as leaders: Yul, Ozzy and Jonathan. Each of those leaders valued work ethic. Becky and Sundra have been shown to work well. Flicka has shown to have good work ethic. Cece seemed to contribute and Billy's boot will serve as a fresh reminder that laziness kills. Who's left that prefers to play? I see only Candice.

On a lighter note: Sending Candice to meet Billy might be something of a perverse joke to Ozzy.

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47. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
Candice doesn't have her playmates with her anymore though. And she did recognize that getting on Jonathan's bad side might not be a good idea. I think she should be able to adapt.


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48. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
and does your opinion change for Flicka, who was on board with Jon last week (but could find her new tribe liberating), differ only bc of the misdirection quote about Jon being frustrated with Flicka about strategy?


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50. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
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Well, it certainly helps. Flica has been only flimsily connected to Jonathan -- first, with losing the chickens; next with the shelter floor. But there's been nothing to suggest she's "on board" with him for any strategic purpose thus far.

I'm getting the sense that her tenuous link to Jonathan is the only story the editors are giving her.

Re: Candice, Flowerpower puts it much better than I did in her response below.

I wonder if Jonathan's strategy will involve trying to flush out the HII from Yul. With nine people from four different tribes there, it might be worth a shot. If, for example, Jonathan can get four people to vote for Yul, and also determine that the three Pukas are going to vote for one of the remaining two people, the Puka's target will go home and the HII will be voided for now.

That would be a big gamble though -- if Yul didn't have the idol he'd have to leave and they'd be losing one of their two strongest players.


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51. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I don't know, I think Cece has no story and sort of blah, like Jenny... but Flicka does. She's a character (like, but not quite so much, as Cao Boi) If she was gone in ep. 3 I think they would have stressed her more in the first 2 eps...and they had material...they sort of glossed over losing the chickens like with Sally losing the sling...I think she's not done yet. I think Cece is.

and Candice I agree she will assimilate and be glad she is gone from Adam.

As for Jonathan trying to smoke out the HI idol..it is WAY too soon for that and way to risky bc Yul is strongest...get rid of "dead weight" first. No need to push on that yet!

Also, it's interesting that Yul says he thinks he will tell Brad and Becky about the HI...let's hope that he doesn't before the switch bc Brad may change his alliance to JP et al. If I were Yul, I'd keep it to myself for now! but that means he'll prob. tell B & B right away...at least he knows he shouldn't tell Cao Boi!


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09-26-06, 07:22 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
She's a character (like, but not quite so much, as Cao Boi)

I have not seen her be a character at all on the show, in fact she's kind of just there. She felt bad about the chickens, she's not getting on anyone's nerves by being too weird, she's actually rational. The only way we know she has been a character is from her pre-show hype. I don't really see her as a character that evokes strong feelings either way, and if she is considered to be one of the weak ones, and somewhat of an outsider, she's toast. Remember, this is a "social" game, as Jiffy always reminds us.


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53. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
She's been called by herself and Billy as one of the alternatives...Cece (and Jenny) are just blah...her editing tells me she is staying longe than either of them.


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54. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I agree with FP - one might expect Flica to get an edit similar to Angie in Palau after her "alternative" comment, but she's not. I don't think that's a good sign.


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49. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I think that Candice may have had an initial strategy as to flying under the radar/shadow of the big strong male in the tribe...but now that they have been separated it will give her a chance to change that strategy that she could have been starting to question herself. She's a medical student....she's got to have some smarts. I think with the shuffle she will try her best to assimilate. I don't really see her as lazy, just see her with aligning with the wrong player, but now she has another chance. I don't think she will try the same strategy, maybe too little, too late, but at this point, I think she'll be safe.

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55. "RE: Challenge Vidcaps from Web Promo"
I haven't seen an explanation for the surprise look on Rebecca's face. How about she has just found out that oldAitu threw the last challenge? That would explain her expression. If it becomes common knowledge, OldAitu will have a lot of explaining to do.

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