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"Interview with Willard and Angie"
forehead 932 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-20-05, 10:37 AM (EST)
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"Interview with Willard and Angie" |
Good interview by rose54321 at MESS:http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm11.showMessageRange?topicID=1130.topic&start=156&stop=156 Two interesting quotes: ============ WS: Well, I became the answer to a trivia question, “Who’s the only Survivor to be sent home from a tribe that never lost an immunity challenge?” I’m right up there with Wanda and Jonathan, the Survivors who never got to play the game! It’s a narrow list of people who had oddities happen to them! Q: Willard, we finally got to see some of your tribe’s strategy last night. Were you surprised to learn that Gregg was working both sides? WS: Not particularly. I don’t know what’s going to happen in the future, and you may recall at the end, I told the tribe to stick to the plan and finish Koror off, little words of encouragement. That was actually my attempt to put a tiny little blade into Tom’s back, because he has been telling people “We have to function as a tribe”, and that’s not very strategic as you get closer to the merge. And I think something like the Gregg and Coby, and perhaps alliances with whatever Ulong survivors there are at the merge, is gonna make this fascinating for the next few weeks. There are so many possible permutations. ============ Make that your final answer - Koror does not lose any IC.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-20-05, 10:47 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
Great catch, forehead! Just another piece of info that corresponds with the Mersaydeez spoiler... Willard also hints how the remaining members of the Ulong tribe may affect the tribal dynamics at Koror! I thought it was an interesting choice of words on his part....whatever Ulong survivors there are at the merge,
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iatovttotx78 2645 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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03-20-05, 01:13 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
Although I like the idea that Koror never looses an IC couldn't he just mean that he is the only person to be voted off a tribe that hadn't lost an IC up to that point. I don't think it necessarily means that Koror never looses, just that they hadn't lost yet.
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-20-05, 03:59 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
“Who’s the only Survivor to be sent home from a tribe that never lost an immunity challenge?” The quote doesn't say up to that point...he clearly states never lost an immunity challenge
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LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-20-05, 05:56 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
I've gotta agree with iatovttotx78. I'm pretty sure, being a lawyer familiar with the penalty for breaking contracts, Willard wouldn't be giving out spoilers like that.Techinally, the "up to that point" could be implied. Even if Koror lost all the rest of the ICs, Willard was still sent home by a tribe that never lost an immunity challenge. That being said, I think he's right either way. Willard's assessment of Ulong was pretty dead-on.
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-20-05, 09:13 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-20-05 AT 09:23 PM (EST)We can agree to disagree on this. I don't think Willard or anyone else would say something like "a team that NEVER lost an immunity challenge" and whether said or implied to mean "up to that point". Not only that...Willard actually says that he became part of a trivia question as to the only person to be voted out of a tribe that never lost an IC. These two things add up to me meaning that Koror doesn't lose an IC.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-21-05, 10:49 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
How does it make Willard the answer to a trivia question if it's qualified by "up to that point"? Then he'd be in the same category as everyone else who was the first boot from their tribe.I think Willard slipped up with this remark. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-21-05, 11:17 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
How does it make Willard the answer to a trivia question if it's qualified by "up to that point"? Then he'd be in the same category as everyone else who was the first boot from their tribe.Not so. All the 'first boots' became first boot because their tribe lost a challenge. Willard is the only survivor to be booted from a tribe without that team having lost the previous TC. The only other possibility here is John P from last season but he lost the subsequent individual challenge so it isn't the same.
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television 282 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-21-05, 11:32 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
Also, John's tribe lost already in the first episode, when they booted Brook. So, up to that point they had lost one already.
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-21-05, 12:09 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
stan, but the logic is still correct...how can Willard be the answer to a trivia question if the stipulation is...up to that point? Everyone in Survivor has been booted (or called the quit bus which doesn't count) due to losing a challenge EXCEPT Willard...right?
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-21-05, 01:40 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
Ok. There seems to be a semantical issue here and I suppose that's the whole point of the discussion.I think that even if Koror goes on to lose, Willard still is in a party of 1 (to which only Pappy, John P, Jonathan and Wanda have even a tenuous link): a survivor that never lost an IC, individually or in a team, and yet was booted. That being said, it may also be the case that he is the only survivor booted from a tribe that (with him or without him) have never lost an IC. I see that given the way he phrased it in the interview, while the first will always be true, the second is strongly suggested. The question then is, if you were in Willard's shoes, and Koror did lose at least one future challenge, would you not still feel like you were the answer to a trivia question and, being so, how would you phrase that, without being overly wordy? My guess? Just as Willard has done. ©Kittyloaf Creations, 2004 World Travel Tips
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LibraRising 2847 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-21-05, 01:51 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
I think that even if Koror goes on to lose, Willard still is in a party of 1 (to which only Pappy, John P, Jonathan and Wanda have even a tenuous link): a survivor that never lost an IC, individually or in a team, and yet was booted.What I was trying to say, but much clearer! Still doesn't matter...Ulong can't win no matter how the deck gets stacked in their favor
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-21-05, 05:17 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
The question then is, if you were in Willard's shoes, and Koror did lose at least one future challenge, would you not still feel like you were the answer to a trivia question and, being so, how would you phrase that, without being overly wordy? "Who is the only survivor to be sent home from a tribe that had yet to lose an immunity challenge at the time?" Not much wordier that what Willard said. I see your point, but I contend that Willard (lawyer that he is) probably wouldn't have phrased it the way he did if another Koror got voted out after an IC loss. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-22-05, 09:47 AM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 03-22-05 AT 09:48 AM (EST)I see your point too BR. And you are also right about the lawyer thing. Personally, I think that it is probably true that Koror never loses another IC. I'm just not sure Willard's comment conclusively confirms it. I will completely agree, though, that his comment does nothing refute such a claim. In an odd twist, if, in fact, he had said 'at the time' or "up 'til now", we'd be all over it saying that Willard just confirm that Koror will lose a future IC. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, I guess. ©Kittyloaf Creations, 2004 World Travel Tips
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-21-05, 01:32 PM (EST)
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I think that we're agreeing here, Doc, but I'm not completely sure.Seems to me that it doesn't matter what happens at Koror from here on out. They could lose every IC from here on out and Ulong make the biggest comeback since Chuay Gahn and Willard would still be the answer to the trivia question: "Which Survivor was voted out despite the fact that the team that he was on never lost a challenge?" Note that as soon as he was booted, Koror is no longer 'his' team because he's not on it anymore. That is to say, if Koror goes on to lose the next (few) ICs, Willard will be able to say that he was the reason they won all the time because without him, they started losing! (ok. we know that this isn't likely but it would still be accurate). ©Kittyloaf Creations, 2004 World Travel Tips
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-21-05, 02:35 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
I understand where you are coming from. I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out!
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robindobindoodledoo 69 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-21-05, 09:59 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Interview with Willard and Angie" |
>Do we know if they all >stay in Loser Lodge until >the last non-jury bootee arrives >and then are dispersed on >trips, or if they can >go any time during their >stay? That's what I was wondering, too. Especially with the Ashlee, Jonathan, BJ vacation group.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-22-05, 02:05 PM (EST)
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21. "That's how it was" |
That's definitely how it was at one point: all the trips left on either the day before or the day of the first jury arrival, so everyone was gone before a juror got to Losers' Lodge. I don't know if that has changed, but I wouldn't see why it would. In that situation, Willard would everyone know who left the game pre-jury.
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