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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-04-04, 06:31 PM (EST) "Probst Teleconference" http://www.survivorfever.net/jp_all_stars_conference.html Media Teleconference with Jeff Probst Jeff talks about the upcoming Survivor: All Stars Finale and Live Reunion Show (SurvivorFever.net 5.4.04) Question: Can you say how Amber has played the game differently this time than in the Australian Outback? Jeff Probst: During the game I don't talk to them about this stuff. But what I have sensed is happening is... I pulled for Amber from Day 1 when we started talking about the casting. The reason was, I thought she was a lamb the first time. Three years later, I knew that Amber had taken some hard knocks and had had some life experiences. I think the feeling was, what if she comes back as a bit of a player. That's exactly what she's doing. I don't know why she chose Rob to be in an alliance with. She was smart enough to let this guy whose personality is so out front, let him take the bullets. We'll find out on the live show but I think that early on in their alliance, they made a lot of the decisions together. Watching how much they interacted, then they would separate, seemed like they had this strategy going that Amber had to be a part of. Rob took a lot of heat, then Amber played the good cop and would come in and say, "is everybody ok". She put herself in a good position. If she can get deep into this show, and even if she loses Rob somewhere along the way, she's deep enough without the kind of animosity that I think Rob is experiencing. He has a much tougher sell. If they end up in the final 2 together, she could beat him because of all the bullets that he took trying to protect her. That whole thing of whether their relationship is real or not... in this game, a game that is a social game, that is going to be a big factor. That's one of things I'm curious about. If Rob really has fallen in love with this girl, that's when guys start making those fatal mistakes. Question: Would you say her behavior is markedly different than in the Australian Outback? Jeff Probst: She was much more careful about what she said. In the first season, she would just say anything. I remember when Jerri and Amber won a reward together, a food reward, I was watching them eat. Amber said, "wow vegetables, I never eat those, I usually only eat French Fries". Now I'm watching Amber out there, very cagey. Question: This spot that I'm seeing on CBS, about the Finale, "A Surprise So Big, It Will Stun Everyone, We Guarantee It." Is this network sweeps promotion or does something big really happen? Jeff Probst: There's a pretty good reveal on the live show. I don't write those promos but we are going to share something on that show that I think is certainly significant, completely unexpected and will have people talking. Question: On the Final Hour or the reunion show? Jeff Probst: Thinking...thinking... something in the reunion show. Question: What was the hardest moment in the show. I was thinking Sue and Richard as being a difficult moment, how will that play on the reunion show? Jeff Probst: It was definitely the darkest moment for me. I think we all realize what happened. It was this cacophony of people... Richard is not a mean person, he's a great villain on the show but Richard has a very rich heart. He was walking around naked from Day1, Season 1. Nobody said anything. We all have this image of Sue as being this really strong truck driver with a strong point of view. What we didn't realize about Sue is that she is very sensitive. I don't think Sue expected to have that kind of reaction. She was encouraging Richard, giving him a bad time. Then this incident happened and I think it shocked everybody. Richard had no idea it would affect Sue or he wouldn't have done it. Then we come to the challenge. I don't want to make an editorial comment that Richard was wrong. I also don't want to ignore the fact that Sue is upset... I say the words sorta inappropriate. When the whole thing is settled now and looking back all 3 of us realize our part. This is a game with the stakes of a million dollars. I don't want to interfere. Richard would never want to offend Sue. Sue didn't want to cost her tribe. Everybody feels much better about understanding what happened. Not putting a judgment on it but understanding how it happened. Question: Who has surprised you with just how well they have played and who surprised you with just how bad they have played? Jeff Probst: Cesternino surprised me with how unprepared he was for the judgments made about him early on. He entered into an alliance with one person, Boston Rob, got his throat cut and it was over. I was surprised that Rob did not come out much stronger with a different game plan. In fairness to Rob he had a target because he was a sharp player. A couple of people are playing well. Who truly surprised me.. I expected Shii Ann to do well. I'm impressed with how this outsider played, how she kept herself in the game from Day 1 every time she turned around she was an outsider whether it was cultural or tribe related. I think Shii Ann is the prototype for the type of player we like because she mixes it up. The other person to give a lot of credit to is Boston Rob. It's tough to come in and take the leadership role in a tribe or alliance. Determine who is going to get voted off. Do it with a girl tucked under your arm, daring anyone to kick you off. Some people don't see him as the underdog. I see him as the absolute underdog. The blue collar dude from Boston, 3 gold chains around his neck, finds the cutest girl, builds her a shelter. Then starts annihilating the enemy. That is romantic, kickass. In the jungle there's only room for one man. I really like Boston Rob. I haven't had a chance to find out the truth yet. I'm curious to ask Boston Rob how much input Amber had in the decisions. Question: Of those remaining, is there someone who is just asleep at the wheel? Jeff Probst: I hate to say it but I really worry about Rupert. Either he's playing a really cagey game, even cagier than Big Tom, or he's unaware of how dicey the game is getting at this point. The scary thing about keeping Rupert around is that he is so well liked. Even in this game of all stars where everyone is so catty. Rupert is still well liked. He hasn't hurt anyone's feelings, hasn't double-crossed anyone. He has worked hard and provided. I don't think Rupert sees what a threat that makes him. He thinks that because he's a nice guy he should win. He's going to have to wake up. The good news, he seems close to Jenna. Jenna has a vested interest in Rupert going far. Jenna may be the one to say listen buddy this is how we play the game. Jenna knows what time it is. Jenna Lewis as irritating and annoying as she can be out there is playing this game to win, period. She will cut anybody from here on out. Question: There was talk before All Stars began back in Jan that you might see this show return to the 30 million viewer level. That hasn't happened. What are your thoughts about the ratings, has the show performed to where you thought it would? Jeff Probst: I'm the wrong person to ask. I never thought we would hit 30 million again. I thought we might see a little bit of an increase. I thought our ratings would stay the same, we haven't deviated since season 3. 3-8 hovered at 20 million. Ratings won't dip for season 9. Our audience is in it for the long haul. People that stop me always say, "I never miss an episode, please don't stop making them". There's not this casual viewer, if you're in, you're in. It's disappointing how much energy is put into ratings when you're on the creative side. Question: Was Mark Burnett able to be as involved in All Stars as he was in the past? Was he more involved in The Apprentice. Did that have any impact in the storytelling or editing of All Stars? Jeff Probst: From day one Mark told us that his goal was to build this team so the show could run itself. That's what he's done. Storytelling doesn't dip at all whether Burnett is there or not. He's taught us how to do that storytelling. We are an extension of him... not that we are a cult. The people that run The Apprentice, Casino, The Restaurant, The Contender, they all came from the Survivor family. It spawned this way of storytelling that is bigger than Mark himself. We all get it. He has definitely groomed us. If Mark were still out there after 8 seasons on a daily basis, micro-managing, we have a major problem. Is he on location as much as he was the first season? No. He's a frickin empire. He's not out there all the time, he doesn't have to be. He's a cell phone call away. We know how Mark thinks. Now it's how I think. If Mark is not on location he will defer to us. I'm the last #####-kisser. I will tell you exactly what I think. I talked to Burnett yesterday, I was reminded the guy gets it, he ##### gets storytelling. That's why The Apprentice works and why The Contender will probably be big. Burnett is behind them. The only problem we have is keeping the talent pool up with each show he steals more people from the original Survivor team. Question: Can you not say #####. We can't print it in the paper. Is it fair to say that the people left are going to get big prizes, like 6 figures? Jeff Probst: The money did go up. I don't have the exact numbers. I think it was a million for the winner, $250,000 for the runner up then $175,000 and then maybe 115, then maybe dropped into 85. I'll have those numbers on the Live Show. You started hearing people saying at Tribal Council or in interviews that there is a significant amount of money. It made a big difference in the end. The end is pretty personal. Probably the most honest and emotional Final Tribal that we've had since the very first season. Because they were friends and there's a lot of hurt feelings when this thing is over. Question: Will it be more fun for you to get back to the rookies? Jeff Probst: Definitely. All Stars was a fun experiment. I would vote never to do it again. If I had any say. I think the game is better played by strangers. The benefit to having an All Star season is that you have 18 of your greatest characters who will always give you gold and are hilarious to watch. The downside is you've already seen them once. That's the flip flop. You can get away with it once in awhile. Ratings reflect that people watched this season, they didn't go anywhere. After watching the All Stars play it maybe we'll get back to a unique approach rather than emulate people. Figure out who you are and don't come out here and try to emulate other people. Question: What percentage of your job is a host and what is an addiction. The way you talk it sounds almost as if you care more about this game and how it's played and who wins rather than getting paid. Jeff Probst: I only know one way to approach some thing and that's full tilt boogie. I'm in. I'm a big part of this creative team. I have something invested in it, pride. The fascinating part is human nature and that's why I enjoy it so much. I love watching where people draw their line in the sand. My ethical line might be a foot left of yours. Those 12 inches are going to be wonderful to watch play out. Question: Have you actually seen a level of play that you would get from a group labeled "All Stars"? Jeff Probst: It's really just bringing back your favorite people to play again. It's a social game where you take people and put them in a situation and say you're going to have to live together. One of you is going to get a million dollars. Every 3 days you're going to vote someone out. Whoever is left standing wins. It's all about politics. Richard Hatch and Cesternino talk about "I'm the greatest player". There's so much luck, so much involved in who ends up on your tribe. The better question is: Did you get the level of entertainment that you expected from these 18. The answer is yeah. These are just real people. Between Boston Rob and Big Tom, all the other people, there is some pretty funny moments. They absolutely delivered, even the people that quit on us early Question: Survivor is still a strong ratings performer. There's a lot less buzz surrounding the show. I think The Apprentice is the reason for that. Do you sense that The Apprentice has eclipsed Survivor as the top dog reality show? That show created a lot more buzz than Survivor this season. Jeff Probst: As far as has it eclipsed it as the top reality show, you'd have to check in 8 seasons from now and see if the show is still on the air. What I have observed... Survivor came on, it was brand new, everybody was talking about it. American Idol comes on everybody is talking about it. Survivor is still on air. The Apprentice comes out and it's a new thing, American Idol is still around. The Apprentice is a new thing and on the cover of Entertainment Weekly. When you look at the ratings, Survivor hasn't gone anywhere. It's hard to find something to talk about on a show that's been on for 8 seasons, that's new. Is American Idol going to go away because it's not on the cover? Donald Trump was on every magazine cover. Two seasons from now there will probably be a new show, it will probably be a Mark Burnett show. That will take over. Your observation is correct but the conclusion is wrong that Survivor is less interesting. The new kid on the block always gets the press but it has to have longevity. Question: Did the show live up to the hype? Jeff Probst: The thing about Survivor is, it's a show that is controlled by the participants in it. This isn't The Apprentice where we can help keep someone in the show because Donald Trump is making the call. The participants themselves make the call. We turn this show, a 20 million dollar budget, over to 16 people we don't know and we cross our fingers. My feeling is that "here's this season of Survivor, what do you think"? I've had some people come up and say All Stars is the best season ever and others say they are ready for new people. Question: You mentioned longevity. Here you've got a show where your cast changes every year, the location changes. What's the common thread that makes it stay around? Jeff Probst: The common thread is the structure. The concept always makes it intriguing. 16 strangers, abandoned, forced to form their own society, voting someone out every 3 days, as a kicker, the last 7 voted out come back to decide which one of the final 2 gets the money. It's a really complicated social game. How do you navigate that. How do you vote off people that you were living with and how do you vote them off in a way that allows them to come back and want to vote for you to give you a million dollars? I honestly think that Survivor could play for a long, long time. And the variations you could do on it...are less important, whether it's men vs women or cool people vs nerdy people or African American vs whites or international. Any of those things are fun to look at but it's that foundation that makes Survivor work. Question: In terms of the finale, what preparation do you have to do? Do you go back and watch the tapes? Jeff Probst: I watch during the season. I jot notes about what stood out to me. What was impactful and how we ended up with these final 4 or 5. This season one of the things we are going to talk about is damaged friendships. How friendship impacted this game. You could do a two hour reunion show, a 10 minute reunion show. This is going to be a fun reunion show, it will have a little emotion to it but is going to be very memorable, that is almost guaranteed. Question: Are Rob and Amber still together as a couple? Jeff Probst: As best I know they are. Technically they are not supposed to be together or talk or email. Anybody that believes that really happens is naive. I think they are for real. I'm going to find out on the Live show. The game isn't over til the votes are revealed. I'm wondering more about Amber than Rob, was somebody being played. We'll find out when the whole show is over. Question: Could this game be played the way it originally was conceived where you dump them on the island and let them live by their wits. During the course of the show they get food and the all star group you gave them fire or they would have died of dehydration. Jeff Probst: It was never conceived to not give them anything. The first season, they did not realize there would be rewards and they started eating rat. We saw that . We were about 16 hours away from having to intervene. We set out to kick their #####. They got cocky, "we're the All Stars". On day 4 we knew what the challenge would be. We figured we'd give them a lame reward of blankets and tease them with fire. We were 90% sure that whoever won, their own selfish needs would outweigh the feeling of wanting to penalize the other tribe and they would take the fire. Question: What would have happened if the one group would not have taken the fire? Jeff Probst: We had a Plan B. We always have a back-up. A tie-breaker. We always think "what if", "what if". This season proved you can't dump 16 people out without anything. Question: How much has evolved that now you know just how long you can push them before you go in with little assistance. Jeff Probst: It's evolved a fair amount. We have a medical team, our head doctor told us how many hours we could go without water. He monitors them and checks in on them at challenges. We have learned it's not the physical, it's the mental. The toughest days are the first 7,8,9, we have people that want to quit. Question: The All Stars were people who had experience. Were you surprised they couldn't get it together or was it an impossible situation for them to create fire. Jeff Probst: It was an impossible situation. The truth is, we knew that. We have local guides at each location, our experts at what is poisonous, all of those things. They told us, the condition of the wood out here, the climate, they aren't going to get fire, not without flint and steel. We knew they were not going to get fire. Which made Richard Hatch's comment so funny. He couldn't have started fire. You weren't going to get fire but they didn't know that so they tried. With the All Stars, I called every person, we had it narrowed down to about 30, I told them, "if you are selected, you better come with a skill and if you have to ask what that means you probably aren't an All Star". They went out and learned how to fish, how to build a shelter. They were prepared to build fire but had no idea it was fruitless. Question: The shelters were not working well. Only one or two people could fish. Jeff Probst: Not everybody came in knowing how to do everything. If you saw the shelter Rob built for Chapera, it was phenomenal. You would go up and shake that thing and it wouldn't budge. Mogo Mogo may not have looked so good, but they were pretty inventive. The tribe that screwed up was Rupert, the most ill conceived shelter in the history of island experience anywhere, to build an underground shelter on a beach. Rupert will never live that one down. I think part of it is you watch the show and you expect action hero type of events, these are just real people who apply themselves in different way. Colby went and spent 4 days in the wilderness with a guide. Colby was as well-versed as anybody. But you get out here and the wood is too wet. You have 7 other people and you just can't dictate. Question: How did Boston Rob make it this far, how did he become a king. Jeff Probst: I don't know. The one thing I want to talk about at the Live show is did he have alliances with everybody. Did everybody think he was their ticket to the final 2. Either they are living in fear of him or everybody things "I'm his true partner". That could be the only reason. It's been a long time since anybody had the cajones to stand up and say "I'm going to dictate this game and I'm going to do it with this girl under my arm and nobody is going to stop me". We're down to the last few people, Big Tom, Rupert, Jenna have got to be thinking... who's it going to be. We typically have one last immunity challenge, you could win it, nobody could stop you from then on out. 5 and 4 those are critical. 5 is really critical because it's an odd number. That's when people have to make a move to stop this guy. Personally I'm pulling for him. I like how he's played.   Top

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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-04-04, 06:58 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Probst Teleconference" LAST EDITED ON 05-04-04 AT 07:03 PM (EST) I think they are for real. I'm going to find out on the Live show. The game isn't over til the votes are revealed. I'm wondering more about Amber than Rob, was somebody being played. We'll find out when the whole show is over. He must mean he wonders more about Amber playing Rob. He doesn't seem to think it was the other way around: If Rob really has fallen in love with this girl, that's when guys start making those fatal mistakes...The blue collar dude from Boston, 3 gold chains around his neck, finds the cutest girl, builds her a shelter. Then starts annihilating the enemy. That is romantic, kickass. In the jungle there's only room for one man. I really like Boston Rob. I haven't had a chance to find out the truth yet. I'm curious to ask Boston Rob how much input Amber had in the decisions. Also interesting: Jenna knows what time it is. Jenna Lewis as irritating and annoying as she can be out there is playing this game to win, period. She will cut anybody from here on out. and: The end is pretty personal. Probably the most honest and emotional Final Tribal that we've had since the very first season. Because they were friends and there's a lot of hurt feelings when this thing is over. I'm still thinking it's gonna be a Jenna/Amber F2.   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 05-04-04, 07:29 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Probst Teleconference" I found a lot of the same quotes interesting, like you BR, but had a different interpretation than you did on some... "If they (Rob and Amber) end up in the F2 togther, she could beat him." THIS IS WAY TO BLANTANT. I'M GUESSING SHE DOESN'T END UP IN THE F2 AT ALL, BUT ROB DOES. "He (Rupert) thinks that because he's a nice guy, he should win. He's going to have to have a wake up call... Jenna is playing this game to win, period. She will cut anybody from here on out." IS RUPERT'S TURN UP NEXT? MY GUESS IS EITHER HIM OR TOM, AND BASED ON THE SQUARREL BETWEEN THE TWO IN THIS WEEK'S EPISODE, I WOULD GUESS TOM IS SAFE. ALSO, ROB WALKS UP ON RUPERT STRATEGIZING WHICH WOULD MAKE RUPERT A TARGET IF ROB IS REALLY IN CONTROL. "The end is personal... because they were friends and there's alot of hurt feelings when this is over/" THIS WHOLE STATEMENT EMPLIED THAT PERSONAL THINGS WOULD BE SAID DURING THE FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL, WHICH MEANS THEY WILL BE DIRECTED TOWARD THE FINAL 2. JENNA MAY BE ANNOYING, AND AMBER MAY BE UTR, BUT ROB IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS SEVERED FRIENDSHIPS WITH PEOPLE SITTING ON THE JURY. THIS STRENGTHENS MY BELIEF THAT HE IS IN THE FINAL 2.   Top

DRONES 615 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-05-04, 00:28 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Probst Teleconference" "...BUT ROB IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS SEVERED FRIENDSHIPS WITH PEOPLE SITTING ON THE JURY. THIS STRENGTHENS MY BELIEF THAT HE IS IN THE FINAL 2." Judging by the comments from Lex, KO and SA, I'd say that Amber is not so UTR in their minds. Lex saying that Rob is Amber's errand boy...hmmmm. DRONES   Top

anninvt2002 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-06-04, 12:43 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Probst Teleconference" The end is pretty personal. Probably the most honest and emotional Final Tribal that we've had since the very first season. Because they were friends and there's a lot of hurt feelings when this thing is over One thing still bugs me about this. I may be mistaken (wouldn't be the first time here) but how would Rupert had had time to become FRIENDS with these people. A$$ was filming while we were still watching S7. As much as I like Rupert, I do not think this bodes well for him being in the F2. Just a thought.   Top

steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 05-04-04, 07:59 PM (EST) 3. "F2" LAST EDITED ON 05-04-04 AT 08:04 PM (EST) "The end is pretty personal. Probably the most honest and emotional Final Tribal that we've had since the very first season. Because they were friends and there's a lot of hurt feelings when this thing is over." This statement alone doesn't mean that the F2 are Rob and Amber at all..... Just fromt this statement it could be: Jenna/Rupert Rupert/Tom Rob/Jenna Amber/Jenna Rob/Amber Rob/Tom The only people that don't seem that close are Tom/Jenna or Rob/Rupert. Could Jiffy's season 1 emotional comparison mean there's one VERY less deserving person (ie Jenna/Kelly) and a mastermind (ie Rob/Dique) in the F2? FWIW   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 05-04-04, 08:15 PM (EST) 4. "RE: F2" I get the impression that you took what Jeff said as to mean the Final 2 are friends with each other. You may be right, but I think he meant that we will see personal and emotional stuff with someone in the Final 2(or both of the F2) with the jury. Rob fits this description best, as his friendships have been highlighted and he has burned so many bridges. I'm not saying that Amber sits next to him, but I believe that Only ROb in F2 could create this kind of drama that Jeff is talking about, especially with Lex on the Jury.   Top

steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 05-04-04, 08:33 PM (EST) 5. "RE: F2" Yeah, you're right....I guess all of Lex's b!tching about Rob in his interviews are setting us up for a Sue-vs.-Kelly-esque type of finalie. A Romber F2 just seems so boring to me....they both win no matter what....   Top

gina25 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-05-04, 01:33 AM (EST) 7. "RE: F2" >Question: This spot that I'm seeing on CBS, about the Finale, "A Surprise So Big, It Will Stun Everyone, We Guarantee It." Is this network sweeps promotion or does something big really happen? Jeff Probst: There's a pretty good reveal on the live show. I don't write those promos but we are going to share something on that show that I think is certainly significant, completely unexpected and will have people talking. Question: On the Final Hour or the reunion show? Jeff Probst: Thinking...thinking... something in the reunion show. ____________________________________________________________ I think Amber is pregnant or Rob is gonna pop the question!!   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-05-04, 01:39 AM (EST) 8. "RE: F2" Well, that goes beyond spoiling really, but it would certainly be controversial. I doubt if Probst would know if Amber is preggers though, the live segment of the show is genuinely unwritten right now (though they certainly will have many idea about what to do when the time comes).   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-05-04, 05:06 PM (EST) 15. "Paging geg6" Well apparently a pregnancy rumor is circulating: http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/news/amberpg.html If they're due in August that would mean they conceived during the game, if my math is correct. (Ew.) Geg -- seen Amber lately? Is she starting to look a little more zaftig?   Top

Loquatrix 640 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-05-04, 06:52 PM (EST) 19. "groan" I'm going to be sick.   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 11:47 AM (EST) 35. "RE: Paging geg6" Have seen her. Doesn't look like she's in a reproductive way to me, but she's so skinny, how would you know? I find this very hard to believe. There has been no hint of it here where we all see her and many know her. If it's true, I'd eat my hat. Or even better, Rob's hat.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 12:04 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Paging geg6" Thanks, geg. I also find it extremely hard (more like *impossible*, actually) to believe that it would have happened during the game.   Top

JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 02:45 PM (EST) 43. "RE: Paging geg6" heh heh... hey, Beavis, roach said "hard"... heh heh heh   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 02:47 PM (EST) 44. "RE: Paging geg6" geg6 said it first (heh-heh)   Top

udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 05-05-04, 03:08 AM (EST) 9. "RE: F2" I'm thinking it will be Dicque's matches. UDG   Top

kykate 45 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 05-05-04, 10:00 AM (EST) 11. "RE: F2" "The one thing I want to talk about at the Live show is did he have alliances with everybody. Did everybody think he was their ticket to the final 2." "The end is pretty personal. Probably the most honest and emotional Final Tribal that we've had since the very first season. Because they were friends and there's a lot of hurt feelings when this thing is over." Although I have a scenario where Rob gets booted, the above quotes really (to me) do make a case for Rob getting to the final 2. I agree with Rae that the personal, honest, emotional tribal council is b/c of who is in the final 2 and who is on the jury. As far as I can tell, Rob is the one who had the most friends outside the game who ended up on the jury. Also "did everybody think he was their ticket to the final 2" would lead one to believe that these people were voted off while thinking they were part of the final alliance, leaving - Rob. Also, while people do have hard feelings and don't "appear" to like Rob, most of the former Survivor winners were not necessarily the most liked person in the final 2, but the best player. And the juries grudgingly seem to give the devil his due when it comes to "playing the game". This is why I don't think Rupert would necessary win should he be in the final 2 - he is well-liked, but is he viewed by the jury as "playing the game"?   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-05-04, 10:52 AM (EST) 12. "RE: F2" LAST EDITED ON 05-05-04 AT 11:13 AM (EST) I understand the observations about JP's comment that it's "the most honest and emotional Final Tribal that we've had since the very first season. Because they were friends and there's a lot of hurt feelings when this thing is over." I'm inclined not to read too much into it though. While the two sentences *seem* like part of the same thought, one refers to the TC while the other refers to subsequent real-life relationships. JP can be slick -- he knows what Lex and Kathy have been saying in their interviews. And the notion that there are going to be hurt feelings was put out there by Varner. So JP's not really saying anything new, he's parroting stuff that's been circulating already. And -- in one interview before the F7 finale, JP and MB hinted at a brutal final TC and how there were five very angry jury members who took out their angst on one of the finalists. This turned out to be quite an exaggeration. No one was *that* angry at Lillian; she herself came off as somewhat defensive in her disastrous attempt to justify her gameplay.   Top

steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 05-05-04, 11:31 AM (EST) 13. "RE: F2" The more I listen to that promo it just doesn't seem like it would be about Romber being engaged or pregnant. The tone of it along with Jenna's little snotty sigh makes me think it's more game oriented rather than personal. Maybe MB has one last A*S*S twist left.....we can only hope.   Top

toddE 1433 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 05-05-04, 05:18 PM (EST) 16. "RE: F2" I agree, Amber is preggers or they're gonna announce their engagement. Frankly, how else could Jeff know what the reveal is going to be on the "LIVE" show? Also (ugh!) this does sound like Mariano is likely to win, but I'm hoping against it.   Top

babalouie 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-05-04, 06:48 PM (EST) 18. "RE: F2" LAST EDITED ON 05-05-04 AT 06:49 PM (EST) I doubt Amber is pregnant, or at least that she conceived while on survivor. Rapid weight loss stresses the body, making pregnancy unlikely. Women can skip a period or not release an egg during times when the body is under great strain. Rapid and severe weight loss woud be a huge stressor. Sorry, I don't think it's likely.   Top

Loquatrix 640 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-05-04, 06:57 PM (EST) 21. "RE: F2" Frankly, how else could Jeff know what the reveal is going to be on the "LIVE" show? Uh... because the surprise is something about the show -- like the prize money being upped or some such -- that Jeff would naturally know about in advance? ::grin:: Even live TV is scripted, you know! ;) I don't think any claims have been made that the "surprise" is necessarily some private information coming from a cast member, has it (or did I skim over it in my abject horror at the thought of someone announcing their private business on telly)? It could just as likely be a surprise piece of information from SEG, which obviously Jeff would know about in advance, as a result of the crew planning the content of the live show.   Top

gina25 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 00:26 AM (EST) 24. "RE: F2" I just don't think upping the prize $ is shocking enough to have everyone talking. Besides that JP already stated in the interview that the prizes for 2nd, 3rd, 4th place etc. have already been increased. If the big surprise were an increase in cash I don't think he would have talked about it at all.   Top

geminibabe 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-05-04, 08:27 PM (EST) 23. "RE: the "surprise"" what if they reveal something like that Jenna M WAS told by a staff member that her mom had taken a turn for the worst... that certainly would be unexpected... dunno if it would be that necessarily, but i'm thinking it's less from a player and more from the producers/jiffy.   Top

sorgee 1455 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 05-05-04, 09:42 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Probst Teleconference" >Question: Are Rob and Amber still >together as a couple? >Jeff Probst: As best I know >they are. Technically they are >not supposed to be together >or talk or email. >Anybody that believes that really >happens is naive. I >think they are for real. > I'm going to find >out on the Live show. > The game isn't over >til the votes are revealed. > I'm wondering more about >Amber than Rob, was somebody >being played. We'll find out >when the whole show is >over. maybe i'm reading into it way too much, but that sentence seems to refer specifically to the votes at the end of the game. we may want to remember this for further analysis.   Top

butthunder 25 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 05-05-04, 01:45 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Very interesting quote " Jenna's playing this game to win". I find it surprising that he only says this about Jenna.   Top

Dregar 75 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-05-04, 05:44 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Probst Teleconference" > >>Question: Are Rob and Amber still >>together as a couple? >>Jeff Probst: As best I know >>they are. Technically they are >>not supposed to be together >>or talk or email. >>Anybody that believes that really >>happens is naive. I >>think they are for real. >> I'm going to find >>out on the Live show. >> The game isn't over >>til the votes are revealed. >> Maybe Romber gets disqualified for being together against contracts requirments before the reunion show, which causes Jenna to cause a sympathetic "Ahhhhhh" then she realizes she wins. or.. Romber gets disqualified for having unprotected relations on the island!!   Top

steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 05-05-04, 06:56 PM (EST) 20. "Romber splitting the $$$" I don't know where else to post this but I just can't stop thinking about the no-sharing-the-$$$-rule. Is this going to be over looked if one of them wins? It doesn't seem fair really. Is the offical rule that there is no making a deal wo split the $$$ as a game tactic or is it more strict than that? Can someone answer this and give me some claity please???????   Top

Cathy the Canadian 599 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-06-04, 05:05 PM (EST) 53. "RE: Romber splitting the $$$" I got to wondering about this a few episodes back, Rob was in a confessional, and said something like, "We'll go spend my million together, or, worst case scenario, we'll go spend hers." I thought that sounded a little too close for comfort to the non-sharing rule, and wondered what consequenses there might be. Alas, like you steppingrazer42, I don't know how serious this rule is. Hopefully someone can give us the 411.   Top

Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 05:14 PM (EST) 54. "RE: Romber splitting the $$$" http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/5123.shtml#107   Top

steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 05-06-04, 06:31 PM (EST) 57. "RE: Romber splitting the $$$" That bugs me....it seems like it's obvious they'll share the money if one of them wins, whether they vocally discussed it or not. So they're free to share it after the show as long as they didn't make some sort of "offical" plan during the game? I'm just holding on to the hope that it won't happen either way.   Top

Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 05-07-04, 10:22 AM (EST) 59. "perhaps" Maybe the surprise is the fact that the voting will take place at the live reunion show rather than after the final tc. Jeff's statements aren't looking too good for amber.   Top

Acawap 184 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 05-05-04, 07:08 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Probst Teleconference" LAST EDITED ON 05-05-04 AT 07:09 PM (EST) Jeff Probst: There's a pretty good reveal on the live show. I don't write those promos but we are going to share something on that show that I think is certainly significant, completely unexpected and will have people talking. pregnancy wouldn't be significant or unexpected would it? plus, hard to plan for since it hasn't taped yet. He says 'WE are going to share something', which to me implies he and MB have a twist in mind, and are going to reveal it at the reunion show. Possibly, everybody gets to vote, not just the jury members? Or maybe jury members get the option to CHANGE their votes, now that they've seen the show. Third guess is maybe the immunity winner doesn't get to pick who's going to the final 2 with them -- maybe the vote is from the final 3 or even final 4?? Personally, I'm guessing the option to change votes.   Top

gina25 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 00:31 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Probst Teleconference" I have been wondering for quite sometime if there would be some new twist to the end of the game involving the voting. I think maybe it could be something like you are saying, everyone gets to vote or the votes will be cast on the live show after the jury has seen the show air. This would certainly add a new dynamic to the game.   Top

thetick 279 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 05-06-04, 02:29 AM (EST) 26. "surprise reveal" SFever runs Sandra from S7's weekly column on their website. One thing she mentions on her latest one is that she will be attending the finale. Since this is All Stars (supposedly) having all the past winners present makes sense. But I seem to recall a rumor a while back of the past winners getting involved in the voting somehow. Perhaps this is the surprise - two winners from two juries. Win one million from the bums you lived with for 39 days, but you have to win the second million from the past champions who have been watching it all play out on tv, so have seen all the behind the scenes stuff.   Top

Cayman 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 03:24 AM (EST) 27. "RE: surprise reveal" I have been expecting something like this ever since Tina's post-boot appearance on The Early Show. When Julie Chen asked Tina, "Are you going to be on the Jury?", Tina hesitated, then said "I can't answer that". A sure sign that she will be involved somehow in voting for a winner... >Perhaps this is the surprise - two >winners from two juries. Win one >million from the bums you lived with >for 39 days, but you have to win the >second million from the past champions >who have been watching it all play out >on tv, so have seen all the behind the >scenes stuff.   Top

babalouie 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-06-04, 08:11 AM (EST) 28. "RE: surprise reveal" I agree that the members voted out come back and are involved in the selection of the winner. Maybe they analyze the remaining players game: who changed their strategy the most, what errors were made, a point system involved. But that doesn't seem too exciting. Maybe the voted out survivors actually are involved in one final challenge that helps decide the allstar winner. This seems much more likely.   Top

gina25 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 08:16 AM (EST) 29. "RE: surprise reveal" >Perhaps this is the surprise - >two winners from two juries. > Win one million from >the bums you lived with >for 39 days, but you >have to win the second >million from the past champions >who have been watching it >all play out on tv, >so have seen all the >behind the scenes stuff. I think you just may be on to something here, it also makes sense since there are seven jury members and sevem previous winners, but what would they have done if a previous winner had somehow managed to end up in the final 2? Or do you think they would have come up with this after all previous winners were booted?   Top

JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 11:00 AM (EST) 31. "RE: surprise reveal" Having a second jury made up of prior winners would be a VERY interesting twist! I would LOVE to see that. It basically would mean that all of the prior winners would determine who is the Ultimate Survivor on All-Stars. And who better to determine that than the other 7 Ultimate Survivors?! <<what would they have done if a previous winner had somehow managed to end up in the final 2? Or do you think they would have come up with this after all previous winners were booted?>> I think that a prior winner could have won, or at least made it farther onto the jury. The problem was that the non-winners (which did make up a majority, 14 of 18) planned to take out the winners, and the winners didn't react fast enough to make their own alliance. (I'll save that post for another board.) But as it relates to whether or not they planned this from the beginning, I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Jiffy said that they planned on giving them flint and steel at the first challenge, and they knew they couldn't get fire right away. And human nature would dictate that they would share the reward with the other tribes, nor would they want to suffer the retaliation later on down the road for not having shared. Anyway, all that to say that if there is a jury of the previous winners giving out a second million dollars, then they probably planned it ahead of time. Also, should one, or even two, prior winners made it into the F2, then their spot on the jury could have been given to their second place person. So let's just say that Rich and Jenna made F2 (which could have easily been done). Then Kelly and Matt could take their spots. (In that case, Kelly would probably still not vote for Rich, where Matt would vote for Jenna - again, another topic.) They would definitely have a backup plan in place.   Top

KObrien_fan 8360 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 11:23 AM (EST) 32. "RE: surprise reveal" If it is to be what you are talking about then here is what would have had to have happened: At the live reunion show, the first set of votes is revealed to get a winner. Then they would have to spring the next vote on the previous winners "live" and have a vote then and there with no preparation? If they told the previous winners about it prior to the live reunion, word of this would have leaked, at the very least to the spoiling community. Nothing this big could have slipped through, IMO. It sounds like a fun idea, but I doubt that it would happen.   Top

Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 04:26 PM (EST) 46. "RE: surprise reveal" Agree KOFan. No way this is going to happen. Maybe they throw away the votes and have a game of Dodgeball to determine the winner? Oops, sorry, my Basher side showing through.   Top

Ra_8secs 1081 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 05-06-04, 11:36 AM (EST) 34. "RE: surprise reveal" I like that idea. If I were a producer, I'd float it. I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position. -- Mark Twain   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 10:34 AM (EST) 30. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Jeff saying "I don't write those promos" makes me believe JP doesn't think it's quite as big a deal as the promo makes it sound.   Top

toddE 1433 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 11:25 AM (EST) 33. "RE: Probst Teleconference" That's a good point. My thinking that it's possible an engagement announcement is because I believe JP said the surprise occurs during the reunion show rather than the finale. Therefore, I don't think it is game related. And with all the publicity of the Romber romance before, during and after the show, I do still expect that to be the big surprise.   Top

Handola 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-06-04, 05:55 PM (EST) 56. "RE: Probst Teleconference" If the "Big Surprise" is game-related, then I think it may have to do with the next season of Survivor. Perhaps another A$$? Perhaps celebrities? If it's an Amber/Rob engagement, then that isn't really such a shocker at all. It HAS to be bigger than that. It just HAS to!!   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 11:54 AM (EST) 36. "RE: Probst Teleconference" BR, I'm with you. I don't think this will be so shocking. A Romber engagement party sounds about right to me. But don't take that as some sort of hometown inside word, because it's not. Just seems logical to me. In person, they sure look like they're headed there.   Top

Luvmygreeneyes 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 12:18 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Probst Teleconference" I'm just wondering how many stomachs that would turn? I have to agree that the way JP blew off the headline promo that it's really No Big Deal. Unless your Romber of course.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 12:21 PM (EST) 39. "RE: Probst Teleconference" LAST EDITED ON 05-06-04 AT 12:22 PM (EST) Also, Snewser has info that there will/may be another Survivor special next Thursday: http://www.survivornews.net/news.php?id=922 I haven't seen any promos for this yet, so maybe this will be the big surprise announcement at the reunion?   Top

BrassFan 326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 05-06-04, 01:02 PM (EST) 41. "More With The All-Stars" From yahoo tv: Survivor: All-Stars CBS 3 May 13 07:00pm Add to My Calendar Series/Game Shows, 60 Mins. "More With the All-Stars" Host Jeff Probst and the castaways. Producer(s): Mark Burnett.   Top

Loquatrix 640 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-06-04, 02:39 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Hrm. Combining the additional special show with thetick's idea of prior winners voting a special prize to their choice of Best All-Star, and combining all that with KOBrien_fan's wise input that the production would be unlikely to spring that kind of surprise on the prior winners at this Sunday's reunion... Perhaps on Sunday, Jeff will announce that the following Thursday's special show will include voting by prior winners for their ultimate All-Star. His teasers have included that Sunday's surprise "will get everyone talking" and I do tend to think that this would be talking about who'll get what special awards next Thursday. I do LOVE the idea of prior winners having a special vote, though. Whether or not any of us thinks one winner was deserving or not, the indisputable fact of the matter is that they did outwit, outplay and outlast everyone in their own seasons by whatever means, and in my view that does justify all of them getting the chance to offer a special judgment on All-Stars.   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 03:13 PM (EST) 45. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Ahem... **hangs head** I read about this in next week's TVGuide (hard copy yet!). They have an article about why this A$$ version of the show has been so horrible. There is also a blurb in the listings about the show, but no real description except to say that it will catch up with the A$$es since they came back. I expect quite a bit of Romber in this. --justifies such evening reading material by saying she had worked too hard yesterday and gotten a lousy yearly evaluation from supervisor because somehow it's her (the student aid officer's) fault that admissions are down. She fails to see how that is relevant to her job.   Top

emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 04:34 PM (EST) 48. "RE: Probst Teleconference" geg--I did that on Monday evening...you need some good old fluff reading emydi   Top

toddE 1433 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 05-06-04, 04:37 PM (EST) 49. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Ya think? Seriously, there is no way this has anything to do with the game because it occurs during the reunion show, and having some vote for Most Congenial or whatever just doesn't seem likely (to me). The Sue make-over is certainly possible, it's the only thing besides the engagement announcement that sounds plausible. Sue certainly could benefit from a makeover, but she needs and internal AND external makeover. Still leaning towards the Romber announcement, followed by a sickening follow-up, and probably more to come if this is the announcement.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 04:46 PM (EST) 51. "I know !" she needs and internal AND external makeover. That's it! Sue had surgery to remove her core of hatred. Kathy will be pleased.   Top

Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 04:30 PM (EST) 47. "RE: Probst Teleconference" something that will have people talking I agree BR that Jeff doesn't think it is a huge shocking surprise. I really think the Sue thing fits.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 04:43 PM (EST) 50. "RE: Probst Teleconference" It also fits with the TV Guide description geg6 posted for the second special next Thursday that will "catch up" with the A$$es since they got back. They'll probably license some clips from Extra to talk about Sue's makeover; follow Romber around for awhile, look in to see how Ethan and Jenna M are holding up, etc, etc, etc... Am I mistaken or didn't they do something like this once before, after S2? I swear I remember something where they showed Mad Dog doing stuff around her house...   Top

Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-06-04, 04:46 PM (EST) 52. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Yes, they did do one for S2. A follow up show with the players. I've wondered why they didn't do them again.   Top

RyrieRae 416 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 05-06-04, 05:26 PM (EST) 55. "RE: Probst Teleconference" I realize Amber is a DAW, they all are, but I think she has too much class to come on a live reunion show and say "yep, I got knocked up and panama, and by-god Rob, you will marry me!" I just can't see her wanting to announce to the world. I believe an engagement is in line. If you watch several reality shows as I do, you will see trends within the shows. Early this year it was sick/dying family members: Meredith on Bachelorette, Jenna on Survivor, and Heidi on the Apprentice. Now, Engagements mught be the in thing to do. I watched the High School Reunion Reunion (yes I meant it twice) and Trevor preposed to Amanda. It was very sweet and very significant. I could easily see this being done on other reality shows and it being a big deal. We have 2 prospects for engagements: Rob and Amber or Ethan and Jenna M (I hear they are back together).   Top

geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-07-04, 09:53 AM (EST) 58. "RE: Probst Teleconference" Yes, Ethan and Jenna are back together according to Jenna. She's been in the news lately here in the 'Burgh since she has been named the spokesmodel for the new Iron City beer low carb version. I just don't think this romance has the "heat" that the Romber one does. I would think that a Romber engagement is much more likely and has been hinted at rather heavily on the local CBS station, KDKA, which has an in with the Amber camp as she has worked as a Survivor analyst for them in the past. --hoping there are no more Pittsburgh Survivor contestants because I hate having to keep up with their DAWness just so I can keep all my board buddies updated on their "adventures."   Top

freetrade 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-07-04, 10:57 AM (EST) 60. "RE: Probst Teleconference" If the speculation about a Romber engagement turns out to be true (and if in fact either Rob or Amber win the $1M) I am wondering if the big announcement could be that CBS is suing them as they are not supposed to see or talk to each other until after the final episode has aired? Just a thought.   Top

nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-07-04, 10:59 AM (EST) 61. "RE: Probst Teleconference" No way. SeeBS wouldn't want that kind of negative pub. Cool new sig courtesy of Jslice o-   Top

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