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"*** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***"
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"*** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Please use this thread for EP3 comments before 12:00 EDT... ___________________________________________________SurvivorBlows.com provides this thread as a service to two groups of people: 1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Spoiler Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary. 2) Those people who want to access other posts on the Spoiler/Speculation board but do not want to see spoilers before the show is telecast in their timezone. Please do not post any commentary about the episodes as they are telecast in threads other than this one. Everyone is welcome to post on this thread! It's like Spoilers, Fanatics, and Bashers boards all in one!
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Need DUDE help! |
LionChow |
10-03-02 |
1 |
Is your kid a boy or an IT like Cla... |
OceanSkater |
10-04-02 |
140 |
Last Week on Survivor... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
2 |
RE: Last Week on Survivor... |
SherpaDave |
10-03-02 |
3 |
RE: Last Week on Survivor... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
5 |
Clay |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
4 |
Purple tribe |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
6 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
7 |
Fishies, fishies, everywhere... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
8 |
Ted and Ghandia |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
9 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
true |
10-03-02 |
10 |
Ghandia confronts Ted... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
11 |
Ghandia confessional |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
12 |
RE: Ghandia confessional |
MDSkinner |
10-03-02 |
20 |
RC |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
13 |
RE: RC |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
15 |
RE: RC |
corcam |
10-03-02 |
80 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
Kokoro |
10-03-02 |
14 |
Reward Challenge |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
16 |
RE: Reward Challenge |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
19 |
Reward Challenge |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
17 |
RE: Reward Challenge |
Kokoro |
10-03-02 |
18 |
RE: Reward Challenge |
SherpaDave |
10-03-02 |
21 |
Bad Boys, Bad boys what ya gonna do |
shakes the clown |
10-03-02 |
79 |
RE: Reward Challenge |
dabo |
10-04-02 |
138 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
22 |
Robb |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
23 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
smiles |
10-03-02 |
24 |
Robb mouths off... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
25 |
RE: Robb mouths off... |
ShowMeTheWinner |
10-03-02 |
37 |
RE: Totally unrelated DAW |
ShowMeTheWinner |
10-03-02 |
26 |
Ghandia |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
28 |
Ghandia Mouths Off... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
27 |
Robb is a Screw-Up... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
32 |
Helen is Movin and Shakin... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
36 |
Woohoo |
true |
10-03-02 |
38 |
RE: Woohoo |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
41 |
The net |
Rebel Crown |
10-03-02 |
93 |
RE: The net |
ulalame |
10-04-02 |
131 |
Lost net |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
33 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
29 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
SherpaDave |
10-03-02 |
39 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
53 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
ulalame |
10-04-02 |
132 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
Kokoro |
10-03-02 |
30 |
Uh OH |
true |
10-03-02 |
31 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
true |
10-03-02 |
34 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
Kokoro |
10-03-02 |
35 |
Droopy Drawers |
true |
10-03-02 |
40 |
Ghandia goes NUTS |
true |
10-03-02 |
42 |
RE: Ghandia goes NUTS |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
43 |
just like a woman |
shakes the clown |
10-03-02 |
82 |
RE: just like a woman |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
96 |
RE: just like a woman |
shakes the clown |
10-03-02 |
123 |
RE: Ghandia goes NUTS |
ulalame |
10-04-02 |
133 |
Brian Gets Ted's Side of the Story.... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
44 |
Immunity Challenge... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
46 |
Anybody want to bet.. |
true |
10-03-02 |
45 |
RE: Anybody want to bet.. |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
48 |
RE: Anybody want to bet.. |
true |
10-03-02 |
51 |
ROFL... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
50 |
IC |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
47 |
RE: IC |
true |
10-03-02 |
49 |
RE: IC |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
52 |
RE: IC |
true |
10-03-02 |
55 |
Shii is safe |
true |
10-03-02 |
59 |
RE: IC |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
57 |
Off-topic to OFG |
AyaK |
10-03-02 |
58 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
SherpaDave |
10-03-02 |
65 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
76 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
corcam |
10-03-02 |
91 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
95 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
101 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
corcam |
10-03-02 |
118 |
RE: Off-topic to OFG |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
69 |
RE: IC |
Kokoro |
10-03-02 |
54 |
Shii Ann... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
56 |
RE: Shii Ann... |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
61 |
Tribal Council... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
60 |
Yay! |
AyaK |
10-03-02 |
63 |
Snewser is quite a songsmith... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
66 |
RE: Yay! |
Cin |
10-03-02 |
67 |
Boo! |
true |
10-03-02 |
71 |
RE: Yay! |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
84 |
Bandwagon |
AyaK |
10-03-02 |
89 |
RE: Bandwagon |
SherpaDave |
10-03-02 |
90 |
RE: Bandwagon |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
98 |
RE: Bandwagon |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
103 |
Vote was changed where it counted..... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
100 |
RE: Vote was changed where it count... |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
102 |
RE: Bandwagon |
sleeeve |
10-04-02 |
130 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
Kokoro |
10-03-02 |
62 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
64 |
Robb and Stephanie... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
68 |
RE: Robb and Stephanie... |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
74 |
RE: Robb and Stephanie... |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
75 |
Doh... |
IceCat |
10-03-02 |
81 |
RE: Robb and Stephanie... |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
87 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
managerr |
10-03-02 |
70 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
erikman |
10-03-02 |
72 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
73 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
erikman |
10-03-02 |
78 |
RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SP... |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
85 |
I recant my statement from last wee... |
I_AM_HE |
10-03-02 |
77 |
Next week |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
83 |
RE: Next week |
erikman |
10-03-02 |
86 |
RE: Next week |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
88 |
RE: Next week |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
92 |
To AyaK re official vote change pro... |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
94 |
RE: To AyaK re official vote change... |
erikman |
10-03-02 |
97 |
Comments |
AyaK |
10-03-02 |
99 |
RE: Comments |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
104 |
RE: Comments |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
106 |
RE: Comments |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
108 |
RE: Comments |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
105 |
RE: Comments |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
109 |
RE: Comments |
AyaK |
10-04-02 |
142 |
RE: Comments |
idiotcowboy |
10-03-02 |
107 |
RE: Comments |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
111 |
RE: Comments |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
120 |
RE: Comments |
Outfrontgirl |
10-04-02 |
127 |
RE: Comments |
George Tirebiter |
10-04-02 |
134 |
RE: Comments |
idiotcowboy |
10-04-02 |
126 |
RE: Comments |
ulalame |
10-04-02 |
135 |
RE: Comments |
PepeLePew13 |
10-04-02 |
136 |
Reply |
AyaK |
10-04-02 |
143 |
On an entirely different note..... |
Lisapooh |
10-03-02 |
112 |
RE: On an entirely different note..... |
bergdogg |
10-03-02 |
113 |
RE: On an entirely different note..... |
TechNoir |
10-03-02 |
114 |
RE: Comments |
SherpaDave |
10-04-02 |
129 |
Intro speculation |
NorthOfBoston |
10-03-02 |
110 |
RE: Intro speculation |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
116 |
RE: Intro speculation |
Loree |
10-03-02 |
122 |
So it IS S3, all over again |
munson |
10-03-02 |
115 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
117 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
SurvivinDawg |
10-03-02 |
119 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
Outfrontgirl |
10-03-02 |
124 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
SurvivinDawg |
10-04-02 |
137 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
corcam |
10-03-02 |
121 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
shakes the clown |
10-04-02 |
125 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
Outfrontgirl |
10-04-02 |
128 |
RE: So it IS S3, all over again |
dabo |
10-04-02 |
139 |
Un-fvcking believable |
snoocharoo |
10-04-02 |
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LionChow 2033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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10-03-02, 08:07 PM (EST)
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1. "Need DUDE help!" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 08:08 PM (EST)If anybody out there can help, I need some help counting Rob's DUDE's for the Anti-Bootee game! It's not that I can't count or anything... concentration with the kids popping in is a different story! Any help most appreciated! Sign up for my 3rd season on Fanatics today!
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OceanSkater 315 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-04-02, 11:49 AM (EST)
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140. "Is your kid a boy or an IT like Clay's?" |
Do them always refer to their kid as IT in LA? Or was he referring to Ghandia?Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants TO DIE!!!!!!!
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:07 PM (EST)
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2. "Last Week on Survivor..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 08:12 PM (EST)Jiffy says: "Sook Jai remains a tribe divided..." Jake says... "Jed and Stephanie have not been working on the shelter very much" hmmmmmmm... Edited to change Clay to Jake... The y'alls sound the same to these Canadian ears
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:10 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Last Week on Survivor..." |
Clay says? Isn't he in a different tribe? Yeah, I'm actually reading as it's happening, because I'm not at all confident I'll be able to see this week's show.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:12 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Last Week on Survivor..." |
twas Jake
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:11 PM (EST)
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4. "Clay " |
We see and hear Clay first at the orange/red tribe.Ghandia is going on about missing her hubby while grasping at Ted. Very cuddly.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:13 PM (EST)
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6. "Purple tribe" |
Purple tribe is starving and Jake has icky blisters on his feet. Looks like Steph is still sleeping alone in the rain outside. The tribe is not very good at surviving. At least they all admit it. Robb is blabbing about not knowing where the fish comes from he eats at home.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:14 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Robb sez it is amazing to see where his fish comes from ... ShiAnn sez she's getting to be Ally McBeal sized ... they're hungry and can't figure out how to use the net.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:15 PM (EST)
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8. "Fishies, fishies, everywhere..." |
... but not a fish to eat!The Sook Jai's can't figure out how to use the fishing net... they caught one lonely little tiny fish!
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:16 PM (EST)
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9. "Ted and Ghandia" |
are talking it out. Ted is apologizing ..
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:16 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Ghandia says something about Ted reminding her about her husband. Purple tribe is hungry, cant seem to work the fishing net. Ghandia is depressed and feels used. She says Ted pulled her close last night, and at first it was ok with her, but then he started getting "sexual". She says that Ted was "grinding" against her. Ted says, he mistook her for his wife. He says he forgets where he is, and he is not in his "total mind" when he does it. He apologizes from the bottom of his heart. Ghandia cries, and admits she was raped before. Ted apologizes again, and she says she forgives him. All seems peachy, for now.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:17 PM (EST)
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11. "Ghandia confronts Ted..." |
... says she enjoyed the hugs at first but the 'grinding' got a little too close.Ted and Ghandia have a discussion and she cries a little but it seems to be settled amicably... for now...
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:17 PM (EST)
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12. "Ghandia confessional" |
Ghandia is blaming Ted for what happens at night in her confessional. She said he should know better. She has approached him privately and he said he cuddled her in his sleep thinking she was his wife. He apologized and said he was sorry and she is crying. They agree they shouldn't sleep close together. No problem yet.
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MDSkinner 716 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-03-02, 08:26 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Ghandia confessional" |
If this is the end of the story for Ted and Ghandia, then it was a lot of hype for nothing(typical Burnett). And it looks like that may be the case.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:17 PM (EST)
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13. "RC" |
already ... only 10 minutes in. There must be more to come.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:18 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: RC" |
Jake and Erin sit out.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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10-03-02, 08:18 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Hrm - looks like Purple may get dq'd due to an overabundance of morons. Plus, it looks like that tabloid article knew what it was talking about. So, anyone think that's all there is to the conflict? ----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:23 PM (EST)
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16. "Reward Challenge" |
Purple keeps getting penalized and their baskets are going to the other tribe. Purple was doing much better but Jeff keeps giving their baskets to the other tribe. So the orange/red team wins.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:26 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Reward Challenge" |
Penalized for not being in the attack zone when they attack is DQ and one basket going to the other team. Purple loses 4 to DQ ... Robb, Jed, ShiiAnn, and I don't remember ... boggle.Jiffy keeps telling them that they should be able to learn. When Jiffy's telling you you are stupid, you really should listen.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:24 PM (EST)
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17. "Reward Challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 08:24 PM (EST)Move items from other tribes boat to yours... Move one item at a time... each team can have only two people on course at a time... if two people meet in central 'attack zone' they can 'engage each other with contact'. Sook Jai jumps out 3 to 1 lead Sook Jai leads 4 to 2 Sook Jai leads 5 to 2 Sook Jai leads 5 to 3 Robb is frustrated with Shii Ann Sook Jai ahead 8 to 4 Sook Jai attacks out of zone Ken kicked out Sook Jai attacks out of zone Robb kicked out Sook Jai attacks out of zone Stephanie kicked out Sook Jai attacks out of zone Jed kicked out Each DQ results in a basket switched to other team so Sook Jai blows a huge lead because they can't follow a simple damn rule rofl! Chuay Gahn wins the services of the two Thai red Beret soldiers/ survival experts!
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:26 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Reward Challenge" |
Interesting that the cop was the first rule-breaker.
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10-03-02, 09:17 PM (EST)
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79. "Bad Boys, Bad boys what ya gonna do" |
>Interesting that the cop was the >first rule-breaker. ....not really, more like predictable. What do you expect from a bribe taking, shakedown artist, doughnut eating non kosher swine? They're all like that, don't believe this new enchantment with law enforcement cause its boolsh!t. Didn't you see The Amazing Race last night? Which team ran the red light at 45 mph in a busy intersection? You got it, the fireman and the COP....and do I even need to tell you who was driving?
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:28 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Shii Ann: "Robb, there's no way a logical thought goes through his brain because he's so busy flapping his gums"Robb: "Red berets. I was hoping it would be a big turkey or something"
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:28 PM (EST)
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23. "Robb" |
Shii Ann is calling Robb an idiot. Robb is going on and on about the other team. Nobody else is talking. I think they are all laughing at Robb. Ken is chuckling. Robb keeps calling Clay a backwater hick and saying Ted isn't that big.
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10-03-02, 08:29 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Look like a lot of idiots on the Purple tribe. They have a lot of penalties during the game and jp gives red the baskets. purple wins rc.there was also a lovely shot of robb giveng the purple team the middle finger. purple looks mad that they lost. shii ann calls robb an idiot. rob is mouthing off. he calls clay a hick and says he wanted to spit in his face when he yelled out when he (robb) was choking clay.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:29 PM (EST)
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25. "Robb mouths off..." |
Robb calls Clay a whiney little punk... a hick... makes fun of his accent... Jake shoots a real dirty look at Robb when he makes fun of the accent.Robb says 'Maybe the Red Berets coulda come and helped us with our shelter but maybe they bring a great big turkey... nyuck, nyuck...' What a frikkin ass!
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:32 PM (EST)
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28. "Ghandia" |
Ghandia makes sure to tell the other women what Ted did to her. Then she mentions in her confessional that she left out the part that Ted apologized. Naughty...
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:32 PM (EST)
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27. "Ghandia Mouths Off..." |
Ghandia feels the need to 'tell everyone in the tribe' and was 'a little hard on him' and conveniently leaves out the part about him apologizing... She has the nerve to call Ted disengenuous!
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:34 PM (EST)
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32. "Robb is a Screw-Up..." |
huh... huh... we decided to leave the net out and catch some fish... huh huh so we could eat 'em huh huh and we'd feeeeel gooood.... huh huh huh and the net floated away huh huh...Way to go Beavis... or is it Butt Head? Jed is also implicated...
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:36 PM (EST)
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36. "Helen is Movin and Shakin..." |
Helen tells Brian about the Ghandia story and Brian is shocked... Helen says that they are planning to vote off ted next... Brian says he has to take time to digest the news....Anyone wanna bet that Brian lets Ted in on the news that Ghandia is working the tribe against him?
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:38 PM (EST)
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38. "Woohoo" |
It's gonna hit the fan now! Somehow, I dont see Ted just taking it.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:44 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Woohoo" |
This tribe is reminding me of high school. They are running around gossiping about who did what to who. It's like kids in the locker room. Ghandia is freaking out and throwing rocks. Ted tells Ghandia they need to talk. Ted wants it out in the open in front of everyone. So they are talking/shouting in front of the others. I think Ghandia likes the attention.
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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10-04-02, 01:05 AM (EST)
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131. "RE: The net" |
That wasnt' the net. That was some kind of boey in the water that if they were smart, they could've hooked the net to, but obviously didn't.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:35 PM (EST)
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33. "Lost net" |
The purple tribe is starving and they just lost their fishing net. Jed fell asleep and they lost it. Oops. On the other tribe Helen is telling Brian about Ghandia's story about Ted. Helen says the women want to take Ted out next. Brian seems shocked.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:33 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Jed "delegated his duties" and took a nap. And the net disappeared. Robb thinks it is funny. Truly amazing ... I hope they don't get kicked off because they deserve to die of starvation.
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:38 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Holy crap. I have to find a way to suppress the kids' complaints about not getting to watch cartoons so I can see this. Are Jed and Robb the two biggest idiots on this show ever?
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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10-04-02, 01:08 AM (EST)
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132. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Dood. Why am I reminded of that song, "Nobody likes you when you're 23"?
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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10-03-02, 08:33 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Oh, for the love of God! Now Robb has managed to lose the net. Looking at the show, the early episodes are usually coherent. If Steph isn't on the show soon y'all can say g'day to Robb.----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:34 PM (EST)
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31. "Uh OH" |
Jed lost the fishing net while he was napping.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:36 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Helen lets Brian in on the Ghandia/Ted gossip. Helen says the three of them are taking Ted out next.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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10-03-02, 08:36 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Ghandia didn't think Ted's apology made too much sense (and neither did I). So she's spreading the news and here comes the conflict train again. After these important messages.----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:41 PM (EST)
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40. "Droopy Drawers" |
What's with Brian's shorts? Ewwww.....
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:44 PM (EST)
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42. "Ghandia goes NUTS" |
Ghandia hears from Helen that Ted told Brian that nothing happend between them. Ghandia goes nuts screaming and throwing stuff. Ted suggests a tribe meeting. Ted admits that he was "grinding" Ghandia in his sleep. He admits he apologized. Ghandia says that he was kissing, biting and touching her. Ted says he was not trying to "get" with her. He says he doesn't even find her attractive" Ghandia doesn't buy it.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:47 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Ghandia goes NUTS" |
The red berets leave. So now they should eat well. While the purple team is starving and confused. At least nobody over there is sexually harrassing each other. But Erin just said they don't care if they lose the IC. She said they want to get rid of a few people. Hmmm?
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-03-02, 09:22 PM (EST)
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82. "just like a woman" |
I tell ya, this is soooo typical. Why, the 7 or 8 different times I've been accused of rape, at least 30% of them she was full of sh!t. As for the rest, well, did you see what they were wearing, practically asking for it. And then there was that time those guys in the back of the bar were egging me on with all the cheering and screaming and...oh wait, that was in a movie.Either way, I think my point is clear. I just can't wait for the final two of Ted and Brian so we can have the TV Guide Episode Title of "Survivor 5 Finale: The Pornstar vs The Rapist!!!"
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:56 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: just like a woman" |
Hey shakes, yeah, didn't Jodie Foster win an Oscar for that performance? Will Ghandia?--nah!Pornstar v. Rapist sounds WAY better for ratings than Underestimated Whiner Runt vs. Wrinkly Lump of dead weight in the boat pigtail woman though...
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-03-02, 11:57 PM (EST)
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123. "RE: just like a woman" |
>Hey shakes, >yeah, didn't Jodie Foster win an >Oscar for that performance? ...see, I told the jury she was acting ;) >Pornstar v. Rapist sounds WAY better >for ratings than ....well, they are two of the only three to have fire surrounding their pictures in the opening credits, the other being Shitass. I think Ted is a very good bet to go that far....after all, I expect him to pick up a couple of votes the next time CG goes to TC, and then he will become despondent, and then we will cheer for him as the underdog till he claws his way back to the top like a big ole lovable rapist teddy bear. JP even told us so much would happen in one of his interviews. BTW, sorry for actually interjecting some serious spoiling into this thread. > >Underestimated Whiner Runt vs. Wrinkly Lump >of dead weight in the >boat pigtail woman though...
.....you mean S3 deja vu?
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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10-04-02, 01:12 AM (EST)
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133. "RE: Ghandia goes NUTS" |
Just want to say in Ted's defense, when he was talking to Brian, he didn't say nothing happened. He said something little happened and he "rectified" it. He should've been more clear with Brian from the get go, but he did acknowledge there was something to her complaint. Brian just didn't comprehend the nature of "rectification."
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:47 PM (EST)
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44. "Brian Gets Ted's Side of the Story..." |
Ted says 'nuthin happened at all... I made a mistake and I apologized...' nice cross examination technique Brian... if 'nothing happened' why did he apologized fo a 'mistake'.Brian tells Helen and Brian is shocked that Helen tells Ghandia... Ghandia goes nuts and screams and throws rocks in the sea... Clay is not impressed with her childish attitude. Ted calls for a group meeting... Says he tired of the rumours... To the group he says 'started grinding Ghandia two or three times and woke up and realized it wasn't his wife' Ghandia asks he didn't... bite and kiss her neck and shoulder... and touch her hair... Ted says he doesn't even find her attracrtive and that he is 250% happy with the wife he has... Ghandia backs off and suggests that they start over... Ghandia looks really bad over-all... doesn't even look like Helen believes her anymore... Personally I think Ted is guilty of some serious misconduct and lying... Ghandia is guilty of trying to imbellish the events to manipulate the game... I wouldn't be surprised if two marriage counsellors get some business starting tomorrow.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:51 PM (EST)
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46. "Immunity Challenge..." |
Tribe has to move pagoda style tower one layer at a time from one area to another...Sook Jai seems to be making the job more complicated than it has to be... Chuay Gahn goes about things in a very matter of fact manner and gets the the job done! Sook Jai is gonna toss one of their idiots... If Jed goes it will because Robb sticks him with the blame for losing the fishing net!
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:48 PM (EST)
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45. "Anybody want to bet.." |
That the Purple tribe can't follow Jiffy's directions in the IC?
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:52 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Anybody want to bet.." |
I'm truly troubled by who they let in dental school ... they can follow directions. They're just too damn dumb to do the childs puzzle. And Jed provides the direction. Then again the rest of them listen to him.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:54 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Anybody want to bet.." |
What's really scary about this tribe is that they let Jed and Robb lead them in the challenges. I don't care how stupid Jed is, I would have to cast my vote for Robb, he is USELESS.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:54 PM (EST)
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50. "ROFL..." |
I can just see it now!Robb: I spat in the vote container huh huh huh-huh... Jed: I lost the pen... we can't vote now! Shii Ann: Stephanie is poking me! Jiffy: Don't make me pull this TC over...
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:51 PM (EST)
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47. "IC" |
Jeff is wearing some cool shades. LOL!Orange/Red team finally wins IC. I think purple planned to lose. They already have someone chosen to go. But who is it? Erin said they wanted to get rid of a few people. Who are the candidates? Jed, Steph & Robb? Or maybe Shii Ann?
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:53 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: IC" |
It seemed that Robb and Jed looked the most upset that they lost IC. Shii almost looked happy, LOL.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:55 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: IC" |
The net boys are in trouble. Who can put a better spin on it? Robb seems so oblivious to how the team feels towards him.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:56 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: IC" |
NO kidding, RObb is trying to rally the vote against Shii Ann. Ken isn't biting, he suggests Jed. Why would they keep ROBB??
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:00 PM (EST)
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59. "Shii is safe" |
Shii Ann is wearing a different top than the one she's wearing in the famous TC pic. Guess she's safe.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 08:57 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: IC" |
LOL at the Net Boys Loree!How are we supposed to spoil this game with no hints that the strong athletic guys are such total idjuts as to lose the RC prize when everyone is starving? Sheesh!
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:00 PM (EST)
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58. "Off-topic to OFG" |
Did you finish the tally for the vote thread?Do you need me to unlock the thread so you can post it? (Yes, I was the one who locked it.)
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:06 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
Congrats to the "lemmings."
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:15 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
Your Iron Dawg is fortified with a LOT of Grand Marnier, and giving the big WOO HOO on changing his vote back to the original GUT. If you wanna call me a lemming, go right ahead.SDawg: 2-1 ABT (who did NOT invite Dawg in): 1-2 Thankyeverymuch for playing. Please return your seat to the upright position, and take your chewing gum (pun not intended) with you. Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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corcam 374 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 09:46 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
I didn't even think I was going to get home in time for Survivor or to post.... anyways when I got on I was like why is everyone changing their vote to Jed (or Jeb as Jake and Ken call him) so I dicided to go along... might as well have gone down in flames But atleast I only posted once so I didnt change mine tee hee hee All I can say it was a good that they made alot of hype for this episode CAUSE IT SUCKED LIKE A HOOVER!!! Really boring if you ask me... the Reward Challenge was so hyped up I knew it was going to suck.. however I did pick Soup Java to win.. damn.. Immunity was barely seen and it was one of the WORST. CHALLENGES. EVER as Shakes would put it and it seems like we were all wrong about the challenge.. hey it looked like a SOS challenge to me
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:54 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
MB said it was going to be all new challenges. But this IC reminded me of the Africa one where they carried the hut and rebuilt it. Or the last Survivor where they moved the coloured stumps and rebuilt the post. They can call it something different but it still looked the same. I want to see the disgusting food challenge. At least it would give the purple team something to eat.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:16 PM (EST)
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101. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
"All new challenges" my fourth point of contact! (a little Red Beret lingo there!).That water bridge was no more than a Combat Missions challenge. And a Tower Of Hanoi Immunity Challenge? WHOOPEE!!! (Not.) "All new"... sheesh. Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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corcam 374 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 11:41 PM (EST)
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118. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
Yeah I would like to see a food auction this year those are fun and it is nice to see them puke it all back up after they choke it all down in their raisin size stomaches
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:09 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Off-topic to OFG" |
Hi AyaK Thanks, I wrote an edit that vanished when the thread got locked, but it was just to say that I didn't have time to finish it because too many of the vote changers forgot to say who they were ditching.I didn't have time to go look up all their original votes. If you want me to finish it, I can do that, but I'm not attached to it. I was just stepping in cause Dave said he was busy and it didn't have a recent tally. Let me know.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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10-03-02, 08:56 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: IC" |
OMH - she ~is~ happy! Did you see that smile at the end of that last confessional?LoL - and Robb thinks the tribe has decided to boot Shii! ----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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10-03-02, 08:57 PM (EST)
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56. "Shii Ann..." |
Says says that logic puzzles are easy for her... could have stepped in but chose not to...Robb says Shii Ann is lazy... Robb and Ken discuss tossing her out...
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:02 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Shii Ann..." |
Jed is gone. But Shii Ann got 3 votes. So she was rather cocky for someone with 3 votes against her. Of course Jed is now gone and he is one of those.But Robb is still there and clueless as ever.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:01 PM (EST)
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60. "Tribal Council..." |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 09:25 PM (EST)Jiffy hands out the torches... Jiffy asks Shii Ann what the surprises have been... she says lack of food ansd shelter... Robb says he is 'just a happy go lucky kid' Stephaine says that hunger could make people more likely to be at each other;s throats... JAKE says he'll take a 'strategic approach and mosey on over and vote'... Ken votes for Jed... calls him lazy... Robb votes for Shii Ann... says they 'didn't click' and that 'he'll catch her on the flip side of the eddy' Votes: Jed Jed Shii Ann Shii Ann Shii Ann Jed Jed Jed is toast... Edited to correct a simple little error that no one need concern themselves about... nuthin' to see here...move it along... move it along...
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:05 PM (EST)
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63. "Yay!" |
Props to OFG for starting the Jed bandwagon, and to shakes and Dawg for piling on and leading many of us to the promised land of a correct pick this week.And, of course -- nice song, Snewser.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:06 PM (EST)
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66. "Snewser is quite a songsmith..." |
... the 'Pied Piper of Spoilerdom'
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:10 PM (EST)
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71. "Boo!" |
Looks like this is gonna be real predictable (non)spoiling season. *yawn*
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:22 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Yay!" |
In all fairness, AyaK, there were three votes for JED before my original vote. So those three should get some real kudos, too! Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:40 PM (EST)
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89. "Bandwagon" |
True, Dawg, but I was crediting you all for starting the Jed bandwagon. Of the last 15 votes, all but one (from sleeeve) were for Jed.
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:46 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: Bandwagon" |
And the moral of this story is... pay no attention to those men (and woman) behind the curtain. Only AyaK managed to pick the right pick among the icon-afflicted people. A recap, shall we?IceCat - Ghandia SherpaDave - Stephanie (voted Jake, but that's cuz I'm a contrarian; I really thought Steph was a goner) Bebo - Stephanie SurvivorBlows - Stephanie sleeeve - Stephanie AyaK - Jed (whew!) I think those are pretty much in the order the votes were cast. Are you Bluish? Funny, you don't look Bluish.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:06 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: Bandwagon" |
Well, Dave-- You guys could always vote to give Shakes a Big Blue Head. He pretty much has one already.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:19 PM (EST)
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103. "RE: Bandwagon" |
You guys could always vote to give Shakes a Big Blue Head.
Don't EVEN go there, OFG... just don't EVEN go there.... Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:18 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Vote was changed where it counted..." |
I considered that option, Ice... of not changing my vote and just changing my picks.After all, I sucked in Spoiler Island last week and it would have been nice to make some progress. I have a feeling LOTS of picks got changed, so, oh well. At least the clown and I are still neck and neck.
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sleeeve 3456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-04-02, 00:38 AM (EST)
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130. "RE: Bandwagon" |
>True, Dawg, but I was crediting >you all for starting the >Jed bandwagon. Of the >last 15 votes, all but >one (from sleeeve) were for >Jed. And... for the record... this is the first time I've read online since about this time last night, when I read a very convincing theory (sorry, I can't remember whose) that Stephanie was most likely to go because she was sick, and sometimes, the obvious hides in plain sight... I was pretty sure that SJ would be at TC tonite, thanks to Jiffy's comments that tonight was an explosive TC (which was NOT true, IMO), and that led me to believe that Jed and Robb would defend Steph and her sickness brought on by stupidity and pigheadedness. Worst of all, I had Jed down to win it all in my PTTE, and had decided that he was likely to be voted out within two episodes, but didn't change my PTTE this week, cause I was already late for a 4:00 meeting (my 9am-1pm meeting ran THREE HOURS LATE and threw off my entire day!!!), and was really, really hoping that Steph was gone. *sigh*... I missed the deadline in Spoiler Island and My Thai, too... (but I doubt that I wouldn't have made the right picks anyway)... so much for a strong week of spoiling... don't you hate it when real life gets in the way, lol!
You never know what might be up my sleeeve...
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10-03-02, 09:03 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Okay...well it seems the 3 lazy morons did have an alliance. I really can't believe that vote though - JED over ~Robb~? What the heck? I don't care how lazy he is, he's still better for the group than ~Robb~! Plus he looks about ten times stronger....oh well. Hopefully they won't pay for it next week.----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:05 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
At least the alliances are now crystal clear. Jed, Robb, and Stephanie voted for Shii Ann. Everyone else voted for Jed.
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10-03-02, 09:08 PM (EST)
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68. "Robb and Stephanie..." |
the loose ends of a failed alliance and probably Sook Jai's next two bootees... whoever annoys the tribe the most will be the next to go. I think Robb has that role sewn up nicely!
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:13 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Robb and Stephanie..." |
At least I think Steph is going to realize she is in trouble. But Robb probably won't be able to add up the votes and even realize he is on the wrong side of the alliance. He is so clueless. I still love the look on Ken's face when he looks at Robb.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:14 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: Robb and Stephanie..." |
So is that why we missed the logic of the sleeping switch last episode? To hide this alliance of 3 a little bit? Sounds like editing shooting itself in the foot--sacrificing coherence for a not so huge surprise.Ice, repeat Jake, Jake, Jake is the Purple elder, not Clay...
OFG *Lemming happy to have been of some small service to the tribe*
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:19 PM (EST)
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81. "Doh..." |
I swear I have a tin ear when it comes to any accent south of the Mason Dixon line! Purple Jake... Red Clay... Red Clay... Adobe... Adobe hut... Jabba the Hutt... Pizza Hut... hmmmm.... <stomach growling> Goes to find the yellow pages...
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:28 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Robb and Stephanie..." |
Robb is a "star", and one of Ghandia's smokers... yep... he's looking to be next Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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10-03-02, 09:10 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
I need to rant about Robb's "We didn't lose, we got beaten by the rules." Curse those rules Robb! They always get in the way. In fact, I would be in first place on Spoiler Island if they would let me edit my picks after the show. The Rams might not be 0-4 if the referees wouldn't penalize them for sending 20 men on the field whenever they play. Darn rules are always getting in the way.
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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 09:11 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
how does surviver news do that? should have goting rid of steph but he did lose there net mb is going to have to give them rice now or they will die.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:12 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
It would be most pleasurable to watch them die. CSI could do the autopsies in an unusual tie-in.
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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 09:17 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
maybe ted can banash gdiva to there tribe
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:25 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: *** EP 3 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LMAO Tech! Nice tie-in concept! The case of the EMPTY SKULLS. CSI's task: discover who stole their brains.Next night: Without a Trace tries to reconstruct their thoughts in the short period of the series before their brains disappeared... Then the Agency could take a shot at them and conspire to place the loozers in the FBI, etc.. so they can totally bungle up every organization but the CIA... Finally, on Judging Amy, they are all sent to juvenile court to resolve their issues, as is fitting for this bunch. Jake is forced to attend as the DCF advocate and grudgingly admits that he CHOSE these idiots for his team. Ya, a promising week of CeeBS!
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:16 PM (EST)
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77. "I recant my statement from last week..." |
they should not be allowed to have weapons.having them kill themselves slowly and stupidly is much more entertaining
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:22 PM (EST)
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83. "Next week" |
Looks like the purple tribe will have 2 dummies next week. They have Robb and the one that they have to carry in to camp. What is that about?
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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 09:28 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Next week" |
i bet it is some form of rescue like s1
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:30 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Next week" |
What, another triage challenge? I am shocked, shocked. That is not ALL NEW, MB.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:48 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: Next week" |
Maybe they will have to paint and decorate the dummies and give them a name. Oh wait a minute that was gnomes on BB.Are they going to hide their dummies and make the teams find them? Or maybe they have to carry the dummy through an obstacle course. I think we need a switch about now. Otherwise the purple team will starve.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 09:51 PM (EST)
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94. "To AyaK re official vote change procedure" |
In re your post to the locked vote thread, I am glad you clarified: By the way, everyone knows that the ONLY proper procedure for vote-switching, back from S2, is to post your new vote DIRECTLY UNDER and AS A REPLY TO your original vote, right?because I didn't know, as I never changed a vote back then, and probably lots of people don't know. Having tried to tally the thread and failed, LOL, I can see the need for a rule. One problem: Right now we are under STRICT orders not to make a curve in the vote thread, so that is why I didn't post under my original vote. So if there's an exception to that rule, it needs to be explained at the top. Question: Doesn't it actually make it harder to do a tally based on the last tally if some new votes (changes) are way back up the thread? I realize you can look at the post # to see if the change was new since the last tally, but it does mean you have to scroll the whole 150 or so posts near the end. Another option: Put the vote change in sequence, but clearly state the old vote being ditched so it can be subtracted from the last tally. Yet another option for neatness: Shakes and I are bad examples. Don't change your votes because of us or anyone called Snewser or Paratrooper or the ABT. (Right!)
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erikman 324 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 09:58 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: To AyaK re official vote change procedure" |
both trooper and abt were wrong this time. abt was wrong 2 weeks in a row there sliping.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:09 PM (EST)
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99. "Comments" |
Well, I happen to know that the ABT had a couple of its founders give up Survivor spoiling this summer. As far as changing votes -- it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do, and no one should be embarrassed about doing it. There's nothing wrong with trying to glean all the info you can and then vote. The person who tallies the thread should notice the missing post numbers and find and tally the votes. The only bad thing about this procedure is that it reduces the "bandwagon effect." I think I posted once upon a time that the only curves in the vote thread should be vote changes. Somehow, that got simplified into no curves. Probably because, before this week, there were hardly any vote changes!
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:23 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: Comments" |
I'm blaming OFG for this one! I *thought* we should post a reply to our own vote in order to change it, but when OFG made a whole new post...well, I just acted like a lemming(!). After last year and this year, one wouldv'e THOUGHT Outfrontgirl had been practicing her vote changing! Not that I'll EVER need to change in the future, but we'll keep the CORRECT way in mind from now on... (Work with me on the humor, OFG, work with me...) Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:28 PM (EST)
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106. "RE: Comments" |
LOL Dawg, I'm with you!There's a simple reason I led you astray. Sure I have lots of practice, but I have ALWAYS done it wrong. My practice just reinforced my bad habits, ya know?
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:32 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: Comments" |
OFG, OFG... leading a poor innocent Dawg astray... tsk tsk...A side comment to AyaK about the ABT: I'm suspecting that Krautboy is part of the ABT now, since he's not helping us out so much on this board anymore... so whip that Deutscher into shape, Aya! (Or am I gonna have to ask Evil Bert to step in and take matters into his evil-but-capable hands?!?!?!) Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:26 PM (EST)
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105. "RE: Comments" |
>>Well, I happen to know that the ABT had a couple of its founders give up Survivor spoiling this summer. Well, that probably accounts for their slippage! Either that or they got too cocky and thought they had all the patterns wrapped up in a bow... Or they don't have the luxury of changing their pick to reflect late-breaking news because they're committed to publishing their pick on a deadline and they think it would be wrong to waffle even if they DO change their minds. Even if they saw Jed get off the plane in NYC--an official pick is a pick set in stone. Could be all of those things AyaK. Thanks for the vote procedure clarification!
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:38 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: Comments" |
People leaving notwithstanding, IMHO the ABT bases it's theories on inside or advance information. When they don't have that information, they are no better off than the spoilers on here. In S-3, EBT flailed as badly as everyone else. In S-5, their successor the ABT is flailing the same way.SNewser had some good (Sean-centric) scoop in S-4, and may have scoop in S-5. ABT apparently doesn't have the sources they once did. But maybe ABT needs to just sit back and stop letting facts twist to suit the theories. It's not like it's the hardest thing in the world to apply the Hollow Theory to MB's editing (Whew, that Grand Marnier really has me talking trash, n'est pas? Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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idiotcowboy 1135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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10-03-02, 10:30 PM (EST)
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107. "RE: Comments" |
I think some people are just tired of watching members of the ABT who never help spoil during the week come in and take credit for someone elses theories at the last minute on the vote thread. I don't begrudge anyone the abiltiy to use whatever they have available to them to spoil the show, but when I get a deck of 35 and someone else is playing with a deck of 52 I don't really feel like I have a chance... then to have them take credit for with out admitting they have additional source really peaves me... sorry I'm done with spoilers if all we want to do is wait for the ABT and Snewers of the world to tell us the answer because they have better resources or a leak. *YAWN*-ICB
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:50 PM (EST)
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111. "RE: Comments" |
ICB, in response to:>>"I think some people are just tired of watching members of the ABT who never help spoil during the week come in and take credit for someone elses theories at the last minute on the vote thread>> I did change my vote after Snewser posted his pick, but only because the pick activated my alarm system and made me consider Jed more thoroughly. I wasn't happy with Stephanie; it felt wrong to me on the intuitive level, but I had gone with it because it was easy to stay with last week's pick. Snewser didn't give any real logic for the boot and I didn't automatically accept it. However, as soon as I took time to read dabo and Pants' posts on the vote thread, I started weighing the logic of Jed and it came together for me as more likely than Stephanie, so I changed my vote. I also provided my own reasoning that was in addition to theirs, and I credited the posters who had given me reasons. I didn't credit Snewswer because I had no basis for knowing if he was right or just guessing when I changed my vote. I had no certainty; in fact I was wondering all the way through the show (via this thread) if Robb was going out. Re your complaint that people swoop in at the last minute: for my part, I don't "help spoil" much on the board right now because I'm way too busy trying to unpack my life which is still in boxes from moving, EXCEPT that on Wednesday night/Thursday I make a concentrated effort to pull it together. I do not go for a ride on the work done all week. I start THINKING about the bootee late in the week; there's a difference. Of course I am only speaking for myself, not the ABT.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:49 PM (EST)
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120. "RE: Comments" |
I started coming back to Jed when I saw that the ABT had picked Stephanie.... something just didn't feel right about their pick. Then I caught the SNewser ballad... but it was really George Tirebiter's post that got me to clicking the button to change my vote. Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-04-02, 00:01 AM (EST)
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127. "RE: Comments" |
LOL, GT's post was great. Note that SHE alluded to her source--her Texas colleague.Somewhere out there, silently, Dalton is watching!
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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10-04-02, 01:25 AM (EST)
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134. "RE: Comments" |
>Somewhere out there, silently, Dalton is watching! Damned straight! And those of us with half a brain know that When Dalton talks, people LISTEN! (Am I the only one who remembers her commercials?)Seriously, I love the graphics analysis and tanglible stuff, but you will not find a better person than Dalton to analyze human nature and interactions. And hell--I've never been NEAR Texas, so who better to go to for a clue of how they do things in that alternate reality! GT
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idiotcowboy 1135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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10-04-02, 00:00 AM (EST)
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126. "RE: Comments" |
All I know is the ABT has information not generally available to the members of this board. We work hard with what we have. Nope we aren't always right, but that is the fun of it. I would much rather work that way and be wrong from time to time, than have someone hand me extra info then take credit for being some sort of spoiling genius. Guess it isn't just about the result for me, but the process. Take the process out of it, and really its nothing but a rigged game. *YAWN*-ICB
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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10-04-02, 01:31 AM (EST)
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135. "RE: Comments" |
I actually feel pretty proud of my Robb pick, posted yesterday. Based upon only the weak spoilers we've had this week, and my intuition, I guessed that CG would win both challenges and Robb would go. Actually, who knows why the SJs picked the dentist over the Doodster; either would've been a good pick. In any event, when the late afternoon stampede for Jed came along, I stuck with the Robbster pick. I'd rather rise and fall on my own choices than run with the crowd. It worked last week for Tanya. With EMP pulling an S3 editing move on us, I think the only thing that will help us spoilers (those of us with no inside info) to get to the right answer is good reasoning and reading between the lines. There's a lot out there to find (even in S3, after the fact we could see where EMP was leading us, nobody just wanted to see it because it seemed so wrong). Anyhow, I think it was a good job this week. Most of the crowd got the CG wins; it was just a matter of figuring out which of the beach-sleeping stupid triumverate was going to take the walk of shame. So it wasn't perfect, but given the little we've had to work with, it wasn't bad. Kudos, of course, to those of you who in your gut picked Jed.
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PepeLePew13 26135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-04-02, 06:45 AM (EST)
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136. "RE: Comments" |
>Actually, who knows why the SJs picked the dentist >over the Doodster; either would've been a good pick. >Kudos, of course, to those of you who in your gut >picked Jed. My gut literally screamed out to me when I started to figure things out for the boot -- I initially had 60 points (out of 100) on Stephanie in the Yahoo pickem league, but in the last half hour before the show, I really started to analyze the game and it hit me that Jake had a better connection with Robb and picked Stephanie first to join his team on the first day, while Jake didn't get along with Jed in the previous episode over the fact that Jed wouldn't help with the shelter and then wanted to sleep in it with the gang. So, I could see Jake going to bat for Steph/Robb and urging others to boot Jed. Jake's comments about Jed were more vocal and served as a foreshadowing in Episode 2. So, that's why I voted for Jed -- didn't really see who voted for whom in the vote thread before I made my vote.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-04-02, 01:58 PM (EST)
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143. "Reply" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-04-02 AT 02:01 PM (EST)Speaking as an ABT outsider and soon-to-be SB outsider ... >All I know is the ABT has information not generally available >to the members of this board. Agreed, but -- except for S2 -- not as much as you think. >We work hard with what we have. We sure do. People trying to make sense out of the interactions in this game are the heart of the entire Survivor spoiling community. >Nope we aren't always right, but that is the fun >of it. I would much rather work that way and >be wrong from time to time, than have someone hand >me extra info then take credit for being some sort >of spoiling genius. Lord only knows what info Snewser has. I know that Snewser doesn't tell anyone, and I respect him for that. Basically, though, Snewser's info is part of everyone's input, and I think we've all been owning up to it. Does following Snewser make you a genius? No. However, none of us have needed Snewser or the ABT to tell us that the "young" team is toast and the geezer team, except for Ghandia, is going places. That's just been good, old-fashioned spoiling. Within that framework, I'm willing to use any source to get to the correct result before MB spoon-feeds it to me. >Guess it isn't just about the result for me, but the process. I don't think I'm telling tales out of school to point out that that debate has preoccupied the EBT/ABT since day 1. Some of us -- a majority, which included me -- took the "Malcolm X" approach to spoiling: BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Others were more process-oriented and were quite upset with those of us who were willing to resort to anything to come up with the correct pick. The reason I gave this up is because I no longer cared about MB's manipulations enough to spend time trying to decipher them ... and, without the spoiling work, there isn't any real thrill to me in coming up with the right vote. However, I still like to have the right vote, when I vote. >Take the process out of it, and really it's nothing but a rigged >game. That's all it is, even WITH the process. Anyone for an S.O.S. challenge? >*YAWN* Good idea. Time to hibernate.
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Lisapooh 12664 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 10:59 PM (EST)
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112. "On an entirely different note....." |
Those Red Berets were amazing! That reward was much better than I thoguht it would be. And Robb - didn't he ever hear the proverb about giving a man a fish means he'll eat for a day and teachingi a man to fish means he'll eat for a lifetime. Dood, give a moron a turkey, he'll eat for a day. teach a moron to fish and he'll eat for at least 4 more episodes - DUH.
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TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:10 PM (EST)
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114. "RE: On an entirely different note....." |
I think it goes something like "Give a man a man and he'll learn to fish. Give a turkey a turkey ...." or something like that.
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-04-02, 00:28 AM (EST)
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129. "RE: Comments" |
Thanks, Aya, I'll note and change that the next time I start up the thread.
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NorthOfBoston 158 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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10-03-02, 10:40 PM (EST)
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110. "Intro speculation" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 10:43 PM (EST)Hi everyone Haven't been on this season until today, so it took me a while to go through the past threads. I was hoping I would find something on this subject; maybe I missed it. Last season, someone (very wisely) picked up on the water symbolism flowing (punny punny!) through the episodes, foreshadowing who holds the power. Has anyone else noticed the water/fire imagery in the intro? Most of the photographs are splashed with water, except for, I believe, 3; Penny is one of them, I think Ted is another. John, Tanya, and Jed all have water splashes. Could it be that the fire (or, not-splashed, aka "dry") people have the power this time? Also, I am going on record right now as stating that while I am a sucker for underdogs, I cannot believe ChewyGum is so blind as to not see Jan's strategy. She OBVIOUSLY chose a "weaker" team so that she would not stand out as the weakest member (Pat, anyone?). Now she's flying so low UTR that Lil Kim from S3 looks like a daredevil pilot. If CG doesn't get over these petty interpersonal spats and tantrums (and Brian restrains himself from hanging himself from a tree by the ring on his bathing suit... what IS that thing, anyway?), they are going to cannibalize themselves just as Jan planned. She is now the only UTR player on their team! Also, (since I know this is not an exclusive spoiler-only thread) I just want to vent and say that I don't think Heath Ledger, oops I mean Jed, is stupid; I think he's a victim of bad editing. Robb on the other hand... well, there's only so much you can edit around. Robb: Silas, Boston Rob, and Amber all heave a sigh of relief when you speak. still North of Boston (and without a Massachusetts player this time to cheer on, what gives??)
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:32 PM (EST)
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116. "RE: Intro speculation" |
Re Jan: I try never to underestimate a Scorpio when they are focused on a goal. Other than Kimmi (who didn't care about the game)--we have Scorpio Gervase as a model of UTR playing--almost the last Pagong. Scorpios Ethan and Tom--no need to comment on Ethan except say "ouch" about that "goal" remark, but look how Big Tom pretended not to be a serious player/strategist all the way to the end. Were it not for the goof in Fallen Comrades, he would have placed 3rd or Final 2. So yeah, Jan may seem scattered and ditzy, but underneath there must be Scorpio intensity, plotting, and score-keeping for each and every slight she receives. (That doesn't make me like her though; I really don't like her at all at this point.)
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:56 PM (EST)
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122. "RE: Intro speculation" |
I noticed while Ghandia was telling the gals her story about Ted that Jan didn't say anything. Helen was agreeing and talking. But Jan kept very quiet. We never saw her agree to vote Ted out.And I am still laughing at Robb looking at himself in his sunglasses and primping before he went to TC. LOL!
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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10-03-02, 11:31 PM (EST)
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115. "So it IS S3, all over again" |
The puking girl in E2 and then the dentist in E3. Anybody for the outspoken African-American woman in E4? Does Silas = Robb in E5?
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:38 PM (EST)
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117. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 11:43 PM (EST)LOL Munson, we think alike: I posted this on the vote thread earlier: "If S5 resembles S3, Episode 3 would be the "rich dentist" boot! which would make: Ep 4 Lind aka the angry black woman boot Ep 5 Silas aka Robb the cocky hunk boot Ep 6 Lindsay aka Shii Ann the whiny boot Ep 7 Clarence aka immunity threat Ken?" I still think Stephanie belongs somewhere on that list... I suppose she could fit the Lindsay slot as well. Edited to point out that you can make a parallel between John and Diane in that each travelled ahead of the tribe and ended up with the map.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:45 PM (EST)
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119. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
OFG is right.. but I think it'll be a little different this time:Early thought is that Robb is next, THEN Ghandia. Also, OFG, I never brought this up... but do you think MB has a bead on OFG Theory for previews this season? I don't recall seeing Jed in the Ep. 2 preview for Ep. 3... Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-03-02, 11:57 PM (EST)
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124. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
Yes, it may well be Robb, but the other would be an incredible parallel, no?And Dawg, I actually started to post this earlier: I absolutely expected the OFG theory to be defunct even earlier than this, and I have now discarded it for the season. Any time you post a specific theory on the boards for CBS to read that is so easily nullified by changing promo shots--I expect to see the theory contradicted if it is helping people get the spoiling right. Sure. We all know that CBS employees read the spoiler boards, and probably even post on them. Another example: we had a great theory in "the CBS official polls will ALWAYS misdirect you." CBS reads that, and throws in a non-misdirecting poll, and poof goes the theory. That's why I think we need to stay focused on the game from the players' perspective rather than follow theories. (The Hollow theory is more a general philosophy--harder to abandon, but I'm sure you've seen exceptions to the rule). It sure is hard to know what the players will do when you can't predict such "dangdumb gufus" as these people come up with though. The day after TC, any player who was previously safe can paint a target on themselves, and if the previews don't show it, how can we spoil that? "Indecision may or may not be my problem"
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-04-02, 07:56 AM (EST)
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137. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
That's why I think we need to stay focused on the game from the players' perspective rather than follow theories. (The Hollow theory is more a general philosophy--harder to abandon, but I'm sure you've seen exceptions to the rule).The beauty of the Hollow theory, which IS a theory of perspective, is that MB *CANNOT* circumvent it nor discard it, and it always holds up, just because of it's very nature. If MB shows the truth -- he's "hiding it in plain sight". If he shows something else (Ted/Ghandia as the focus), then this is just leading us AWAY from the truth of the boot. The hard part of the Hollow Theory is for us (the spoilers) to be Hercule Poirots and determine what is what.
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -- Thomas PaineContradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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corcam 374 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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10-03-02, 11:50 PM (EST)
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121. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
Gosh I might nor as well watch the rest of the show LOLHey are any of the guys Jewish... we could just end this right now
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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10-04-02, 00:00 AM (EST)
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125. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
> >Does Silas = Robb in E5? > ...maybe, but Jed sure looked like Silas running around sans teammates in that puzzle challenge. So sad, so pathetic.
I'm just cheering for Ted to win so during S6 we can have someone make the statement that its impossible for a caucasian to win Survivor.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-04-02, 00:21 AM (EST)
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128. "RE: So it IS S3, all over again" |
Clearly the only people with a shot at winning S6 are black, gay, over-40 Jewish or Jews-for-Jesus Southern transvestites with ties to the corporate world, "nursing," and professional sports--who were also in the Army. No one else need apply.
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