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"New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps"
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1. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Je t'adore. You are amazing, as always.
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04-28-02, 08:43 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Isn't this the same post that you posted earlier? Let's all flame him for posting an exact same post he posted earlier. BE SURE THE READ THE GUIDELINES!!!!!
If you want my opinion maybe you should put the guidelines on the page you sign up at for this forum it may help new people that are interested in posting here.Anyways I think that the stone faced tribe members come from someone winning RC and then not taking Vee on her birthday. Everyone gets pissed at whoever did that. Maybe I can post this without getting flamed. Or maybe not.
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04-28-02, 08:59 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>Isn't this the same post that
>you posted earlier? Let's
>all flame him for posting
>an exact same post he
>posted earlier. BE SURE
>THE READ THE GUIDELINES!!!!!
>If you want my opinion maybe
>you should put the guidelines
>on the page you sign
>up at for this forum
>it may help new people
>that are interested in posting
>here. Look Junior, I don't know what your problem is, but haven't you heard of the word NEW? These are NEW vidcaps, from a NEW episode preview. You are really wearing out your welcome here. If this is an obnoxious attempt at being funny, it's not working. >Maybe I can post this without
>getting flamed. Or maybe
>not. Don't count on it.
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04-28-02, 09:09 PM (EST)
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4. "May I?" |
Isn't this the same post that you posted earlier?No. The other post is "Episode 10 vidcaps" which were taken from the promo at the end of Thursday's show. This is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT promo. Did you BOTHER to LOOK at the actual CONTENT of the posts? Let's all flame him for posting an exact same post he posted earlier. Well, since as I pointed out above, it's an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT POST, he doesn't get flamed. YOU, however, get flamed for totally missing the POINT of what so many people have tried to tell you. BE SURE THE READ THE GUIDELINES!!!!! You should tape this on your forehead over the tattoo. If you want my opinion maybe you should put the guidelines on the page you sign up at for this forum it may help new people that are interested in posting here. The rules for spoilers are kinda different than the rules for the other boards, so putting a Spoiler-board-specific list of rules on the signup page is, well....pretty stupid. Besides, we kinda thought that keeping it on the first page of the Spoiler board, along with SPECIFICALLY DIRECTING PEOPLE to that post, would do the trick. But there are always exceptions -- people who insist on violating the rules for one reason or another. Oh, and since you seem to be oblivious except when hit over the head with the obvious, I'm talking about YOU. Anyways I think that the stone faced tribe members come from someone winning RC and then not taking Vee on her birthday. Everyone gets pissed at whoever did that. What, exactly, does this comment have to do with this thread? THIS is the problem I, personally, am having with you (as I won't be so bold as to speak for the entire board here). You start threads that cover topics that have already been over-done; you start threads with opinions that could best be expressed in other threads that have already been started; and you adamantly refuse to understand what the problem with this is. THIS thread is about discussing any possible spoilers to be found in the new video clips; namely, trying to figure out what the reward challege IS, and who might WIN. Not deciphering the CBS "misleaders" for this week. We ALREADY have a thread for that, and this comment would go THERE. You had trouble with potty training, didn't you? Maybe I can post this without getting flamed. Or maybe not. Go with the latter.  "You are a fluke of the Universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the Universe is laughing behind your back." - Tony Hendra, Deteriorata
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04-28-02, 11:13 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>If you want my opinion Actually, here's a rude awakening for you -- I don't. You've made 14 posts and I believe all of them have either been inflamatory or duplicate topics. It's time for you to go back to playing your computer games, I've had my fill of a typical 17 year old know-it-all, I'm sure there are other Survivor sites where you'll be much happier -- goodbye... -SB
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04-28-02, 09:23 PM (EST)
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5. "Reward Challenge thoughts" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-02 AT 09:25 PM (EST)>
> ...from these pics and the V.O about how long can you hold your breath, I would surmise that the challenge is that they have to swim out to a point (maybe that pink/red ball floating in the water) and dive to teh bottom where they will find a large heavy object waiting for them. From there, they have to pick the object up and carry it under water to a certain point. When they have to breath they have to place the object back on the ocean floor and go up for air, then return to the bottom and resume carrying the object to the finish line. First one to the end point wins the challenge or moves on to the next stage of the challenge. From the photos it looks like Pappy is trying to swim with his whereas whovever is in pic #35 is trying to run along the bottom.
Edited to say that RudeAwakening is a complete friggen moron. Feel free to get lost anytime now.
And thanks Bungler for the great and speedy caps as always...you're a magician, and not one of those pansy ass magicians who relies on cool looking tigers to do all the work for them.
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04-28-02, 09:31 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Reward Challenge thoughts" |
shakes, I think the person in #35 is actually Pappy as well - note the same skimpy yellow shorts in both caps.
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04-28-02, 09:33 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Reward Challenge thoughts" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-02 AT 09:35 PM (EST)>From the photos it looks like Pappy is trying to swim with his >whereas whovever is in pic #35 is trying to run along the >bottom. I think that the two pics are both of Pappy - the person in pic #35 seems to be wearing yellow shorts, as Pappy is in pic #33. He's probably trying to run along the bottom, as you suggested, but, it would probably turn into a osrt of running-swimming thing, because of the difficulty of moving forward while standing upright. In any case, yes, he seems to be moving along the bottom, and probably not terribly quickly or efficiently at that. Edited to say that diamond beat me to it.
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04-28-02, 09:37 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Reward Challenge thoughts" |
You crack me up Shakes..lol..i agree..this guy is startin to annoy me..my take on this challenge is maybe it has to do with elimination..bc a few of the capz only show a couple of the survivorz..i dont think there is a picture of Kathy, Vee, and possibly Sean underwater ne where..so maybe they got eliminated bc they couldn't hold there breath...soundz like a cool challenge tho
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04-29-02, 01:01 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Reward Challenge thoughts" |
Check the caps again, #29 is Sean, and #32 is Vee, at least that is who it looks like to me.
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04-28-02, 09:31 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
I haven't seen commercials for that, what channel did you get this from? Is this video on a website somewhere where we could view it?
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04-28-02, 09:51 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
CBS is showing them tonight, trickling them out in little pieces. They usually post this preview on the official CBS site, but they haven't done so this week.
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04-28-02, 11:21 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>I haven't seen commercials for that, what channel did you get
>this from? Is this video on a website somewhere
>where we could view it?
>Let's also not forget about this ID. C-ya Rude... -SB
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04-28-02, 09:49 PM (EST)
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10. "NEW new vidcaps" |
Please note, everybody, I edited the first post in this topic to include a few new vidcaps that seem to fit in places that the earlier preview didn't indicated. They're all marked with a,b, or c after the number. They include the arrival "7 Survivors left" shot, the Sean/Vee "last leg" shots, Kathy talking about whacking the shark, and 3 shots of Neleh taking a dive by the floating ball.
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04-28-02, 09:58 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-02 AT 10:00 PM (EST)This particular challenge seems similar to the one used in episode 7 (I think it was seven) of the original Survivor. I think Greg won that one. The difference here is that these folks are attempting to carry something underwater. From what I can tell I could only make out five of the remaining contestants. Kathy (cap 27), Sean (cap 29), Tammy (caps 32, 36 and 37), Pappy (caps 33 a-b, and 35) and Neleh (caps 32 a-c). I don't see Vee or Robert in any underwater footage only Rob swimming and Vee out of water.
Edited to thank Bungler for his efforts.
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04-28-02, 11:00 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
I've read all the posts in both Vidcap threads, here are a couple of thoughts I did not note:1) Vee crying at treemail:
Questions: Does Vee know the date? (and which day is exactly her birthday) Does SHE tell the others that it is her birthday or does the treemail confess it for her? The Survivors are probably tallying off "days left", but they may not know the date, hence Vee may not know which day "exactly" is her birthday - and if she did - she may not have announced it. Vee may not have told anyone it is her birthday, but when she and sean visit treemail there is a note of some sort that lets Sean know it is her birthday, he says "why didn't you say anything", she says, "I didn't think it was important", sean replies "Of course, YOU are important, blah, blah, blah" - She cries... 2) Spoiling the water challenge: We've already had a water challenge that had a breath-holding component - the rock-filled boat. I remember that some post-episode interviews revealed who did well and who didn't - but naturally I don't recall the details. Can someone locate those interview details and perhaps we can narrow down the speculation.
Apologies if someone already mentioned these thoughts...
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04-28-02, 11:14 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
I don't know where to get the exact interviews, but I do remember that Sean wasn't able to hold his breath long enough to get any rocks out of the boat at all. The only two that I remember doing really well were Gabe and Hunter.
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04-28-02, 11:51 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Ok I am going to try this 1 more time and if it goes through and so do the others I apologizeJust a few quick questions for Bungler or anyone else who might know.
Has there ever been a gross food eating individual immunity challenge? (too busy to look myself) Just asking b/c in cap #20 Sean looks like he just had to eat something nasty, and I figured maybe sneaky MB is trying to add something in there, but I am getting ahead of myself.
Also when does the classic food auction take place? I know it is in as a reward and I am sure that it doesn't happen this episode but I was curious
Before I get in trouble I know this doesnt have any spoiler value whatsoever but I figured someone might know
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04-29-02, 00:22 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
<<Also when does the classic food auction take place?>>I'm almost sure that in S2/S3 it took place at 7 (Not absolutely sure about S3 - I don't remember if Frank was there or not....not that it doesn't take great effort to remember who Frank is in the first place ;) ----------------------------------------
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04-28-02, 11:31 PM (EST)
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19. "Rock-filled boat challenge" |
I was also wondering if we'd seen anything to indicate who did well on this previous breath-holding underwater challenge. As I recall, Gabe and Hunter blew away the competition on this one, Sean was THE most pathetic of all, and as Zoe (ugh) said this week in her interviews, that was HER favorite challenge of all (though I don't remember what kind of a showing she made.) I don't believe Robert did well until Rotu worked as a team to overturn the boat--then his strength was an asset, if not his chain-smoker's lungs.I have a bad feeling that Kathy's Chi Kung discipline might come into play again, unless another female (most likely Tammy) is just driven by desperation to be unstoppable. I don't get the feeling that anyone else in this group is likely to make a great showing, especially if they're "starving," as indicated earlier in the promos. GT
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04-28-02, 11:30 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
 From this pic, I can see that Neleh is holding her nose, she is also holding her nose in cap #32c. I have to eliminate Neleh from winning this challenge. Diving with one arm is going to slow her down. Moving a heavy object underwater with one arm would be nearly impossible. I'm also eliminating Robert. In last weeks RC challenge, he was very slow in the water, and nearly out of breath throughout the challenge. I don't think Sean is as poor a swimmer as we have been lead to believe. Although the pic of him entering the water in the other vidcap thresd proves he can't dive. Pappy looks like he is doing ok, however, if he is as weak and hungry as he states in the preview, I don't know if he will have the endurance needed to win this type of challenge. Vee didn't swim in the challenge last week, so I'm not sure if she could cut it here either. Kathy sent Robert to swim for coconuts last challenge. If he was their best choice, than she must not be very good. That leaves Tammy. She was the swimmer last week when paired with Vee. I don't see any reason why she wouldn't be a favorite to win this challenge. I'm leaning towards Tammy, or possibly Sean.
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04-28-02, 11:47 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>I don't think Sean is as
>poor a swimmer as we
>have been lead to believe.
...I agree, however I think it is a lot easier to swim on top of the water than underneath it. Swimming underwater is not exactly something you would teach a beginner. That combined with the unfamiliarity of holding your breath for any period of time and I think this is going to be a very difficult challenge for Sean.
I agree that Pappy might poop out in this one. I also agree that Tammy and Kathy would appear to be the favorites in light of heleN's diving technique, Vee's history of poor performance in physical challenge's and Robert's utter and complete uselessness.
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04-29-02, 08:25 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-29-02 AT 08:27 AM (EST)>I also agree that Tammy and Kathy would appear to be
>the favorites in light of heleN's diving technique, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Neleh's chances here -- she's a former lifeguard and experienced with SCUBA diving and I'll let dabo say it all here from his post #37 down below... The trick to remaining underwater for a long period of time is to oxygenate your system prior to going underwater (ie. controlled hyperventilation). Take a few seconds to take a few deep breaths, with practice you can do this without making yourself dizzy, and you would be able to swim underwater the length of a regulation Olympic length competition pool. Another trick for staying underwater (if that is what you want to do) is to empty your lungs (preferably of carbon dioxide rather than oxygen) in order to eliminate bouyancy. Conversely, if you want to stay on the surface of the water, relax and control your breathing in order to keep your lungs full as much as possible, increasing your bouyancy. I'm a former lifeguard myself and we're trained to oxygenate our systems because quite often we'll have to spend an inordinate amount of time underwater -- and whatever they're carrying here in this challenge would be tremendously easier to carry than pulling a human being while swimming in real life. IMO, MB showed this to us because he knows that most people would dismiss Neleh's diving technique based on what we're seeing -- do we have our winner in this challenge? I agree that Tammy and Kathy are the best bets to win this, but I'd like to add Neleh's name to the list of possible winners.   GO HABS! 
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04-29-02, 00:25 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
As always an excellant job by our wizard Bungler.Firstly,
I took the liberty of bringing over Bungler's RC vidcaps from the other thread. I'm rather puzzled. If it is to carry something underwater from Point A to Point B, shouldn't the distance between each contestant and the destination equal? The pink ball looks much closer to Paschel and Robert than Kathy and Neleh. Neleh is also seen trying to dive in closed to the pink ball, while the others aren't. Moreover, the positions before entering the water and the 3 heads bobbing in cap30 has Robert on the other side of Neleh. 
Secondly,
wanted to run this by the more experienced and real spoilers.
Even though Paschel seems to be the only one shown to carry something in this challenge and doing quite well, I get this impression that in the previews shown, there has been a conscious/or maybe unconscious effort to not show the winner.
Here goes, my half-baked theory that is trying to be an extension of OFG's. Even if the challenge is shown, the winner is never in focus. Of course this can only be put to test when there are fewer contestant.
E7: No IC challenge preview
E8: RC-Kathy not seen in the kite flying(Lone shots of Tammy, Zoe and Sean doing a miserable job.) IC not shown.
E9: No shots of Sean or Paschel cracking coconuts. Zoe with stilts.
Here in E10 Preview, we've been shown Paschel, Neleh, Robert, Sean(29) and Tammy(32,36). That leaves Kathy and Vee only. I'll know how stupid my theory is in a couple of days. Lastly is Rude and whatever other ID he is using related to the chart fellow? It's like we get one after another of these "trouble-makers" that make newbies like me feel rather pensive about doing something stupid unintentionaly.
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04-29-02, 00:53 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
First, about the pink floaters...looking at the angles of the photograph, there could be another on the Kathy side, just out of the line of sight of the camera, that would represent an equal distance all the way across (but then, geometry was never my strong suit *grin*).Your theory on the challenge previews is interesting...I think there's a list of challenges from previous shows on this site somewhere, and (bless Webby) I'm sure you can find vidcaps for each related week still here. Wouldn't be tough to research, but I don't have the time right now. I'd like to see if it holds up in seasons past. Lastly, we try to differentiate between "doing something stupid unintentionally" as you said (as, I'm sure, we all have done at some point; I, myself, make a practice of it), and deliberately violating the rules repeatedly, even after the poster's errors are pointed out to him/her.  "You are a fluke of the Universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the Universe is laughing behind your back." - Tony Hendra, Deteriorata
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31. "sami, you beat me to it" |
I also get the feeling that we're only seeing one of two buoys--since it's an individual challenge, perhaps there's a weight for each contestant, along a line between them? There do appear to be tethers.As for the glut of juveniles--Psycho, I think this place has been extremely patient with people who are obviously posting in a well-intentioned manner. It's the people who start a crapload of threads--mainly bogus/duplicate ones--just to force their way into the limelight who are apt to be "specialized" on. Being too obtuse to figure out what the community's standards are--or steadfastly flaunting them--is the clincher, and if one is ignorant enough to be banned and try to RETURN under another ID (multiples are SUPPOSED to be taboo, anyway,) they're just begging to be toast. I would think if you're mature enough to CARE whether you fit in you probably fall under the former category, and don't need to worry. GT
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40. "Thanks" |
Thanks for the reassurance, samiam and GT.
Think what I wanted to say didn't come out quite right. You are right in that this place has been very patient. I think that the comments/flames have been justified as do the ban on those characters. It is that even without them irritating the serious posters, my own insecurities and the fear of appearing too dumb in front of you guys freaks me up enough. The standard of this board is afterall definitely higher than others that I've lurked in. Yes, you are right, there is probably another bouy. Didn't consider it when I posted. Oops. I'll take your pointer and go look thru the previous seasons' challenges this weekend, after I take care of my 2 case-write-ups.
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33. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
You may be right here....Can someone make out each person's order in the starting position from what we're shown? It looks like this one may have an elimination round.... ----------------------------------------
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04-29-02, 01:46 AM (EST)
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34. "Am I blind?" |
Looks like, from closest to furthest, Kathy-Neleh-Tammy-Vee-Sean-Pappy. I don't see Robert at all.Know what else bothers me? Look at the caps of Neleh under water (32b and 32c), and all the bubbles around her face. She's DIVING, and it looks like she's exhaling. Why would you let out all your air on the way DOWN? Know what else bothers me? That I should be working right now. *sigh* "You are a fluke of the Universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the Universe is laughing behind your back." - Tony Hendra, Deteriorata
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36. "RE: Am I blind?" |
Samiam, I you look at the first picture, you can see Robert in between Pappy and Sean. I think you got the rest of the order right though, so it should be Kathy-Neleh-Tammy-Vee-Sean-Robert-Pappy. I am also in agreement with a lot of people on this thread about Tammy being the favorite to win this one. The only person that out compete her physically is Sean. In the first underwater IC, Sean did very poorly. RUDE IS A JUVINILE IMBECILE ! GOOD RIDANCE 
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47. "Neleh's exhaling to dive faster" |
Samiam:The fact that Neleh is exhaling does not mean she is letting ALL her air out. However, exhaling some of your air, allows you to dive faster because it changes your buoyancy (compare lungs with a balloon: letting out some air makes it easier to push it down in the water). As somebody else noted, Neleh is both a lifeguard and a scuba diver. We can therefore expect her to be very proficient in skin diving - which is basically what we're dealing with here. One indication that she still has her skills is the perfect vertical angle with which she is diving in vidcaps 32a, b, c. A vertical line provides the shortest and quickest way to reach an object underwater. forehead (a scuba diver) ps I should be working too...
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25. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>Pappy looks like he is doing ok, however, if he is
>as weak and hungry as he states in the preview,
>I don't know if he will have the endurance needed
>to win this type of challenge. Could caps 21 and 23 with Pappy looking so worn out be a little misdirection? He won a nice meal with Sean just last episode. That should give them both a little edge in energy over everyone else. Now they have a chance to go on a cruise ship for another good meal 3 days later. I know they went back to their usual diet for that 3 days, but it had to help some. I'm sure the combination of treading water, holding your breath, and trying to move a heavy object should be much easier for the younger folks, if they know how to swim. You know, another place cap 21 might fit in would be while the RC winner is enjoying their spoils. MB likes to show the RC winners eating a meal and enjoying themselves, and then cut to the camp where the others complain about how hungry they are, or how sick they are of eating the same things. Blue
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20. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
I just have a couple questions for Bungler or whoever might know.
Has a food challenge ever been used for personal immunity? (so many survivors not enough time to go back and look  )Just asking b/c in pic 20 it looks like the classic I am grossed out b/c I have to eat something nasty face, but hey who knows. Also the reward food auction what episode did that happen in, for the remaining castaways?
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26. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Just asking b/c in pic 20 it looks like the classic I am grossed out b/c I have to eat something nasty face, but hey who knows.Sean is probably farting in that cap.
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29. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Although Tammy and kathy are better at challenges, Men have a bigger lung capacity (survivor 1: Greg won immunity)
Therefore I believe one of the men should win, unless it is more about strength than lung capacity.
"I know I don't know you, and you're probably not what you seem, but I sure would like to find out so why don't you climb down of that TV screen" Gina Crews, the Sole Survivor!
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04-29-02, 01:01 PM (EST)
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52. "lung capacity not the critcal factor" |
One gets better at skin diving (diving w/o scuba) with practice (see also dabo's post # 37). On top of practice, other factors such as age and being in shape help. Greg was certainly in good shape in S1. I think Tammy, Kathy and Neleh might all do well here. Tammy has been shown to work out - she's trying to stay in shape. One wild card here is how changed eathing patterns have affected their skin diving abilities.
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30. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-29-02 AT 01:10 AM (EST)>Sean is probably farting in that cap.
LMAO--I was going to scold you for being so poetic, but you could be right! (How much mileage are they going to GET from Sean's fartage, anyway?!) I was trying to figure out where they are in that cap, but I can't make sense of what little is visible. You don't suppose that Kathy Skupin managed to actually kill her shark, so you? If so, they might be watching her gut it/get it ready to cook. . . I've never eaten shark, but I understand it is an especially gamey-tasting fish. . . and loaded with cartilage. The Japanese favor the fins, of course, which tend to cook up in a stringy, gelatinous mess.  Since they are scavengers, shark meat can contain lots of undesirable extras, and the meat goes bad very quickly. I just wonder how much info they have in their survival manuals. . . Of course, if they really ARE as hungry as they're trying to make us believe (despite the smuggled food?) they would probably be desperate enough to eat anything. I'm still wondering why no one has thought to try spear-fishing (Kathy is shown with a MACHETE!)--or after the bonanza at Mara, why aren't they looking for their own source of shrimp and crabs? GT
Always be sincere, even when you don't mean it.
Edited to remind IE that the men we are left with are NOT noteworthy for their lung capacity or endurance. . . Robert has gotten winded on a short sprint to the canoe, Sean couldn't hold his breath long enough to get a single rock out of the boat on the previous challenge, and Pappy rivals Methuselah and isn't likely to have strength OR endurance.
On the other hand, Kathy practices deep breathing, and Tammy has always been strong in the physical challenges. As true pointed out earlier, Neleh is shown using the very UN-lifeguard-like technique of holding her nose to dive underwater. And Vee seems to be a general waste.
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58. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
I've had shark before and I found it to be tasty. It is really a hearty kind of fish. It is more like fish-steak. Very different from the other kind of fish. With that in mind if Kathy does catch/kill the shark the others could be grossed out by the gutting. Sean strikes me as someone who could be easily grossed out. If they do eat the shark before the challenge. It could give them extra energy and protein, which could help the weak males. I don't think Robert is in shape to win anything, but Sean might surprise us. It didn't look like he would be good in the water challenges early on, but look how well he did last week. 
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71. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Thanks for bringing up THAT pleasant memory DK. Too funny!
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46. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>Has a food challenge ever been
>used for personal immunity?No. The gross food challenge for team immunity, always in the second episode, is the only time we've ever seen eating as part of immunity. >Also the reward food auction what
>episode did that happen in,
>for the remaining castaways? In S2 and S3 the food auctions took place in episode 10, and if they've done away with that reward "challenge" this time, good. They had to throw food their way in Australia and Africa in order to keep things going.  ARRRRRRR!!!!
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28. "Hold Your Breath?" |
I was looking at the character bio's on the contestant page for survivor blows, and it says on there that Kathy biked across country for a Lung association benefit (which would take good lungs) and Neleh was once a lifegaurd.I was figuring since this challenge is apparently about being about to hold your breath I would try and surf around and see if any of our fine contestants might have something somewhere saying if they may be or may have been a smoker to try and eliminate but atlast I didnt find $#%&!!! Well going from the bios on the contestants the best candidates I could find for winning this challenge were Kathy, Neleh, and Tammy.. just to include her b/c she seems pyschically fit Robert and Paschal dont seem like they can hold their breath too long, as either do Vee, and Sean so anyways that is what I found on the characters bio page here
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37. "RE: Hold Your Breath?" |
Just to answer the question posed:The trick to remaining underwater for a long period of time is to oxygenate your system prior to going underwater (ie. controlled hyperventilation). Take a few seconds to take a few deep breaths, with practice you can do this without making yourself dizzy, and you would be able to swim underwater the length of a regulation Olympic length competition pool. Another trick for staying underwater (if that is what you want to do) is to empty your lungs (preferably of carbon dioxide rather than oxygen) in order to eliminate bouyancy. Conversely, if you want to stay on the surface of the water, relax and control your breathing in order to keep your lungs full as much as possible, increasing your bouyancy. And since I'm posting anyway: Thank you, Webby, for giving that pimpley Rude guy the heave-ho. ARRRRRRR!!!!
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32. "Pappy and Bubbles" |
Pappy may be doing better than we all think. What kinda bothers me is that when Pappy is underwater in caps 33, there are bubbles coming from his backside. Bubbles usually happen right afer going under like Tammy in cap 36. Pappy could be in about 10ft. of water at this point. This could mean that the survivors have to carry a color coded piece (I can't imagine everyone's piece being yellow like paps) from the pink bouey to shore. I doubt that the bubbles are from him breathing b/c they seem to be coming from his legs. If they are from him breathing, then he is hauling arse b/c the bubble aren't too high up and most of his body is past the bubbles.Also Tammy is close to Rob in cap 30 but Paps is by himself. Paps and Rob were next to each other with Paps being at the far end when diving in from the dock and Tammy had at least Sean b/t Rob and Paps. I think that they are looking for certain colors that are representative for them (although Pappy has always been blue) This could be a bring back as many items as you can until they are all brought back with the winner having brought back the most items or just bring back your color's really heavy item.
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04-29-02, 02:41 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Pappy and Bubbles" |
I think they have to pick up the objects and bring them back to that bingo board kinda thing and match the colors...like bring back pink first and whoever is last is eliminated, then on to the next color....by how many of each block there are until the last color...
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04-29-02, 10:45 AM (EST)
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41. "Sean & Tammy?" |
I would like to add the possibility of a Sean and Tammy link based on some of the vid caps.Before I do, allow me to challenge some of you who think Neleh is one of the "favorites" to win the award challenge because of her lifeguard days. While there is no doubt you have to be a good swimmer to be a lifeguard, her bio on SeeBS states: "during the summer, she worked as a lifeguard." This was in HIGH SCHOOL, when almost anyone of us could have got a $5.00 per hour lifeguard job. While I know she isn't too far removed from high school, I would suggest the vid caps of her holding nose and trying to go down like a jellyfish is more telling of her chances in this challenge. Now, to my main point: Although I will have to be more convinced myself, I think the vidcaps may suggest an attempt by Tammy to recruit Sean. Here you see Sean and Tammy sitting together. While it appears to be before the challenge, could this be a start to Tammy's "courting" Sean? 
Here you see Sean rolling his eyes at Tammy. Maybe Tammy says she's going to win, and bring Sean with him, causing him to roll his eyes like, "yeah right!" 
Here you see N/P/V all together with concerned looks on their faces - maybe after the challenge? Could Tammy have won, took Sean with her, and N/P are consoling V, letting her know not to worry about any alliance between Tammy and Sean? 
Other reasons for Tammy to go to Sean:
1.) She already tried N/P, who rejected her plead.
2.) When consoling the Geneneral, she said, "S/V really like you" and they did vote for Z instead of him. So Tammy may think there is a chance S/V may "play" the game with them.
3.) Tammy knows she has no other shot but to allign with S/V at this point, or win ALL the challenges. I know this might all be a little far-fetched, but thought it might be worth some speculation based on these new Ep10 vid caps. 
P.S. THANKS TO BUNGLER.
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49. "RE: Sean & Tammy?" |
>While there is no doubt you have to be a good swimmer
>to be a lifeguard, her bio on SeeBS states: "during
>the summer, she worked as a lifeguard." This was
>in HIGH SCHOOL, when almost anyone of us could have
>got a $5.00 per hour lifeguard job. While I
>know she isn't too far removed from high school, I
>would suggest the vid caps of her holding nose and
>trying to go down like a jellyfish is more telling
>of her chances in this challenge. I think others elsewhere has explained it quite well how it works to Neleh's advantage to exhale for a speedier descent downward so I won't go into that again. Secondly, I don't know how they do it in the United States, but here in Ontario, lifeguards (no matter how little they earn and trust me, I know how little they earn) MUST be fully qualified with certifications (such as Life Saving National Lifeguard Certification and First Aid & C.P.R. Certification). If "almost anyone of us" could have got a lifeguard job, then all I have to say is... god help us if someone should happen to drown and these same "almost anyone" lifeguards are standing around whistling in the other direction!
>Now, to my main point: Although I will have to be
>more convinced myself, I think the vidcaps may suggest an
>attempt by Tammy to recruit Sean.
You just might be onto something there. We're seeing more and more pics of these two together. Still, I'm just having a hard time fathoming how Sean can be so receptive towards Tammy after how he's bonded with Pappy and knowing that we (the viewers) have seen Pappy and Neleh turn back Tammy/Robert's overtures. We didn't see the Sean-Pappy fuzziness coming in from left field, so certainly anything is quite possible when it comes to a Tammy-Sean bond.
>Here you see Sean rolling his eyes at Tammy. Maybe
>Tammy says she's going to win, and bring Sean with
>him, causing him to roll his eyes like, "yeah right!"
I saw this sequence... it looked like Tammy merely turned around and looked at the cruise ship while Jiffy was doing his spiel about the challenge. Sean rolled his eyes in response to Jiffy's description of the reward.
>3.) Tammy knows she has no other shot but to allign
>with S/V at this point, or win ALL the challenges.
That's true... it's something that Tammy would likely try to do but I can't see it working. Typical MB misdirection -- show these two together to make people think it'll happen but the opposite occurs. GO HABS!
"I'm the General and that's that."
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04-29-02, 09:55 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Sean & Tammy?" |
Totally agree with you on the Tammy-Sean thing, if only by the look of picture #23. It definitely looks like Neleh and Pappy are consoling Vee in some way. I can see Tammy winning the IC (thus, no one is happy for her; "stonefaced") and then choosing Sean, one of the newest power-people in the tribe, to go with her (thus, more "stone-facing" from tribemembers in disbelief).When Sean and Pappy won the IC last week, everyone (well, minus T/R) was happy for them (Neleh and Vee became tearful). Why would the tribe become stonefaced to this winner? Answer: they can't be happy FOR the winner because they don't like her! I can't see the tribe being stone-faced if Neleh or Kathy or even Sean won, unless the winner chose to take Tammy or Robert (which is inconceivable!) SUMMARY: TAMMY IS THE IC WINNER
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04-29-02, 11:55 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Sean & Tammy?" |
You mean RC, right? That Tammy wins the RC and takes Sean? I think that's the only thing that would make everyone stonefaced. If she took Robert, they would just have more time to talk about how they were going to vote them off.
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04-30-02, 09:36 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Sean & Tammy?" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-30-02 AT 09:38 PM (EST)Yes, whoops I mean RC... SUMMARY: TAMMY WINS THE RC!! or was that a Freudian slip? God I hope not! Speaking of IC though, what clues do we have for the IC?
Maybe there's another thread... I'll go and look... (No clips of the IC could mean that they cancel the IC in favor of sending someone home on an emergency relief a la Michael S2)
Hope not!
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68. "RE: Sean & Tammy?" |
>Speaking of IC though, what clues
>do we have for the
>IC? None. Zip. Zero. Zilch. >(No clips of the IC could
>mean that they cancel the
>IC in favor of sending
>someone home on an emergency
>relief a la Michael S2) I think there's a much more straight-forward explanation. MB could give us the winner of the last two IC's without it making the bootee completely obvious. Even with Tammy out of the picture, we had multiple choices of people to go. This time, there are two people with huge targets on their backs. If we saw an IN on one of them, then we would be able to zero in on the other as the bootee. Plus, in the last two ep previews, we were given strong adjectives, "shocked" and "unpredictable", to describe the episode. None this time. If there was going to be a shocking boot, especially since this is the first week of sweeps, this episode would be getting a lot more hype about throwing us for a loop. So what does that tell me? That we've got our two bootee choices, Tammy and Robert, and MB's not going to make it a gimme by showing us which one wins the necklace.  fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery
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75. "RE: Sean & Tammy?" |
I think the first 2 clips are before the RC.> Neleh and Paschal are consoling Vee, because of her birhtday; also all of them are comforting each other becase they are hungry. >
I also think that this clip is pre-RC, since neither of them look either happy or strong. Tammy looks like she is starting to get her hooks into Sean. > I think this clip is post-RC; Sean has won and Tammy is making another desperate attempt to form an alliance with Sean by getting him to take her with him. By the expression on his face, I'd say, he isn't buying into it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neleh (about Papy): He (Gabe) was like a son to him.  
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04-29-02, 10:50 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
 Compare these two photos. In the photo of Survivors diving off the platform, the sun is clearly on their backs; look at the floating ball/buoy to also see the angle of the sun. In the photo of three of them, swimming during the challenge, the sun still seems to be at their backs. Since the buoy is behind them in the photo where they are swimming, they must be headed towards shore with whatever underwater item they are retreiving--not back to the floating platform. The people shown swimming are Robert nearest the camera, then Tammy, then neleH (I think that's neleH, not Kathy). This is the reverse of the order in which they are shown diving into the water (nearest to farthest, K,N,T,V,S,R,P), again indicating that they are faced towards and headed towards shore. I believe the buoy pictured in this photo is the second buoy speculated on above. Missing between Robert & Tammy are Vee & Sean. Altho they could be underwater. From the people visible in the shot, Tammy is marginally ahead, with Robert & neleH a close second. If they are bringing an item ashore, then height is an advantage here, since as soon as your feet touch the bottom it's more of a strength contest than a swimming contest. These three are all tall, but neleH would seem to have the least strength. Since Robert has been useless at challenges so far, I have no idea how he seems to be on a par with Tammy here.  Swami
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04-29-02, 11:13 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
The only problem I have with them ultimately heading towards shore is that Jeffy is on the dock. Jeff needs to be at the finish line to congratulate/rule on the eventual winner. How does he get from the dock to the shore (even by unseen speedboat or something) without his boat stirring up the water around the challenge?
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04-29-02, 11:44 AM (EST)
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45. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Many of the water challenges have been row out from shore, do something, then return. Perhaps this is the reverse of that--go to shore, do something, return to raft. Either that, or whatever happens on the shore is so obvious & visible that Jeff can blow his whistle & rule from the raft. (Seems unlikely) Also unlikely that Jeff jumps in & swims for shore, so having Survivors return to the platform from shore would make sense, I guess. My speculation was based on the photos we have, and not intended to be a complete analysis of the challenge. Swami
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67. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>The only problem I have with
>them ultimately heading towards shore
>is that Jeffy is on
>the dock. Jeff needs
>to be at the finish
>line to congratulate/rule on the
>eventual winner.I disagree - he wasn't on shore for the "rescue" challenge. He also was on a dock for the "balance" challenge, where Kathy had to go to him. Don't think this will matter all that much, even though I personally think that they go back to the raft...
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44. "The crazy platform..." |
Swami, all of your logic makes total sense that they are bringing the items to the shore. But that crazy platform with all of the colored squares and holes seems too intricate for just a diving platform. Why wouldn't they just use a palin old floating dock? I am thinking it must play a part somehow. Perhaps, if there are elimination rounds, the different rounds entail different tasks, one (or some) of which use the platform?And my $0.02 on the survivors chances: Although Sean performed miserably in the team underwater challenge, he seems to care a heck of a lot more about the challenges now that they are individual. I don't think past performance is conclusive that Sean can't hold his breath long. I also think Neleh's past lifeguard experience is your typical high school gig. Get a nice tan and yell at the rowdy kids type of thing. Tammy might just win another one. Just one more reason to get rid of her.
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04-29-02, 12:11 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: The crazy platform..." |
Possibly the key is to get the rocks and bring them back and claim a color. Whoever gets the most blocks wins? Or process of elimination. There seems to be the most pink blocks and the buoy we see is pink. Maybe they start with a color. If there are 5 pink blocks, only 5 of them will survive that round. Bring back pink items...Once pink blocks are full, whoever is left out is eliminated and move on to next color...There has to be a reason for the colors and also it is interesting that what Paschal is carrying is yellow and the buoy is pink which are both colors on the diving platform....
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings
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04-29-02, 12:52 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: The crazy platform..." |
Spidey & cowboyroo, I can see no way that five colors into seven survivors makes sense. Then I remembered the small platforms that were used for the first individual IC. There were ten different colored small platform, one for each survivor. Jeff stood on a larger platform made, I think from several same size platforms.Perhaps MB is merely re-using these platforms, now remade into one large platform (with a few additional units) giving the 5x5 square we see? I think MB Productions is quite frugal (cheap) whenever possible. The hodge-podge of colors is quite photogenic, and the colors make a nice red herring to analyze. Swami
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cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings
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04-29-02, 01:14 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: The crazy platform..." |
Notice on the one vidcap, there are 5 on the first row, 3 on the second row and all pink on the back row. There are 7 Survivors. Two eliminated in Round 1, since there are only 5 blocks on the first row. Then the remaining 5 fight for the 3 on the second row. Then the last 3 fight for the "pink" on the last row. Last round...first one back wins....Or possibly the rocks at the bottom have their names on them and they have to bring them back and put in color coordinated manner...The one with the most wins before they are all filled up... there are many possibilities, but the rocks or whatever they are carrying and the buoys matching the colors on the platform is too much work for a red herring...The red herrings are thrown at us in terms of who goes, not how a competition works...
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54. "RE: The crazy platform..." |
I dunno, I'm inclined to say that the platform is there simply for aesthetics, since the colors on it match the rocks so nicely. It seems to me that if they were staging areas or drop-off points, they'd be a bit more defined as such. Other challenges that had staging, starting, or drop-off points seem to me to have been much more obvious than these small non-descript squares.It seems more likely, in my very modest, very humble, please-don't-flame-me opinion, that it's a "first man back" kinda challenge and the platform is just a pretty set-piece that coordinates nicely with the props. 
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55. "RE: The crazy platform..." |
I started to think that way until I noticed that the back row was all pink...
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72. "RE: The crazy platform..." |
Looking at the diving vid-cap with the platform I actually can only count 5 survivors. Someone with better eyes ir more experience may be able to argue against that, but if that is the case it would definitely bolster the argument that this is an eliminination type Challange.
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sittem 4186 desperate attention whore postings
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04-29-02, 02:07 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
I rarely, if ever, have anything to add when it comes to spoiling. Therefore, you may want to skip this. However, at the chance I could have something I'll go ahead.I see the challenge as one where they swim to the buoy line, dive and pick up a rock/object and have to get it to shore. The Pappy pics (33 and 33??) are consistent with this. Also, I think 30, 31 are pics shot from between buoys and shore (I don't know about the sun angle - I can't tell where sun is in these pics - on the platform it's at their backs). This is consistent with taking the rocks/objects toward shore and having to surface for more air. I can't answer the Jiffy issue, ie., who judges the winner on shore, unless they have to deposit rocks onshore and they swim back to the platform. I think the colors are meaningless. Regarding Neleh ability in the water - both my now adult sons were lifeguards at camps/YMCA. While they are decent swimmers, I believe I could still beat them in an underwater challenge because I know how to oxygenate and they don't. It may be a part of training in some areas, but these days I see a lot of lifeguards I'd be worried about if they had to save me. Even if she can hold her breath for a long time, can she move a heavy object effectively? I see the favorites as being Tammy and Tammy and Tammy and maybe Sean. He surprised me in the water last week. Did the rocks in the boat challenge lead to Hunter or Pat being booted? Could be he just didn't care at that point cause he knew who was being booted. However, I'll put my money on Tammy for just about any challenge right now. She is intense.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings
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04-30-02, 00:59 AM (EST)
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62. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
Unfortunately, lifeguard training isn't a uniform thing, and one would expect that where someone is to be a lifeguard (at a swimming pool rather than a lake or ocean/bay area) could mean a world of difference. Still, one would expect someone who was a lifeguard, even if only at a salt-saturated lake in Utah where drowning is nearly impossible, to have some training in diving.If Tammy wins RC (a likely prospect) and takes Robert (who else) and neither of them smuggle food back to camp, that would explain the cool reception. ARRRRRRR!!!!
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings
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04-30-02, 10:26 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: New Ep 10 Preview Vidcaps" |
>Even if she can hold her breath for a long timeI suggest that this challenge isn't about one's ability to hold one's breath for an *extended* period of time. We seem to be narrowing the field of possible winners based on who may have an extraordinary ability to hold their breath, given their background, lifeguard training, etc. I think we're getting misdirected again. I noticed in the preview that the question is "how long can YOU hold YOUR breath?" I took this as "The greatest water challenge is coming up, can you stand it? Can you handle the anticipation?" How often does Jeff refer to the survivors in previews as "you" or "your?" He is always "telling a story" to the viewing audience, "the survivors" this, "the castaways" that. I just think that the "your" is referring to us, the viewing audience. Why wouldn't he stay true to form and say "the question is...how long can "they" hold "their" breath?" MB knows, of course, if he feeds us a line like this and shows us footage of underwater survivors, we're going to assume that this challenge is about breath-holding, we going to combine this info with bios on the SeeBS website about lifeguard backgrounds, etc., and we're going to come up with either Neleh or Kathy or anyone else whose background contributes to an ability to hold their breath for a long time. Obviously, this is a water challenge and the survivors will be in and out of water and will have to hold their breath at some point; I just don't think that it is the required key skill that we think it is. I think strength, swimming etc. will figure more prominently in this one. If I'm right and this is misdirection aimed at making it appear that Neleh or Kathy have a good shot at winning, than you can bet that Neleh or Kathy DON'T win.
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sticks 1165 desperate attention whore postings
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04-30-02, 10:44 AM (EST)
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64. "S1 breath holding challenge" |
I know other people have touched on this, but there was an immunity challenge in S1 which required everyone to hold their breath for as long as possible and then the final three went through some sort of obstacle course underwater. The final three were Greg (winner), Sean, and Gervase. Every single woman in this challenge came up before the first man. That means even out of shape Rich managed to stay underwater longer than river guide, yoga practicing Kelly Wigglesworth, former military woman Gretchen, and outdoorswoman Sue. Since Greg won immunity, Gretchen wound up being voted out.I think that lung capacity may play a similar role in this challenge. That would favor Sean, and even Robert and Pappy. Of the women, obviously Kathy and Tammy have the best chance, but I don't think they should be favored above all of the males. This is assuming that the challenge is solely based on holding one's breath and nothing else.
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cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings
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04-30-02, 08:42 PM (EST)
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65. "Another thought on the RC" |
It was posted on another board that you can see the number "7" on the rock that Paschal is carrying and was speculated that he was assigned the number 7 since that was his place on the platform. However, I would think if they were going to do that, they would have just put the Survivor's names on the rocks, not numbers. I am still stuck with the fact that the diving platform colors have some purpose as well as the fact that the rocks and buoy are colors on the platform. New speculation: Survivors dive off platform to one of several buoys (each designated by colors to pick up rocks) and bring back to the diving platform (game board). Based on HOW HEAVY the rock is assigns a number of points. Heavier rocks worth more and less places on playing board for them to go. Once a square has been taken it is claimed (kinda like the IC that Rudy won in S1). Game is over when gameboard is full. Whoever has the most points wins. This would use strength, brains, and stamina. There are lots of pink squares on the diving platform and we see the pink buoy that Neleh is diving at. So you can either get light objects and go for the pink squares for less points, and more trips or go for the heavier items which are more points....
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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05-02-02, 12:29 PM (EST)
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69. "Did MB give us the IC winner again???" |
>{Announcer} Now, the only question is... >{Announcer} How long can you hold your breath? Evil MB loves double meanings. We've been interpreting this statement to mean that the challenge winner will have to hold their breath to succeed. But what if there's another meaning? Haven't you ever told someone who's waiting for something, "Don't hold your breath?" Well, maybe that's what MB is telling the audience. The prounouns are "you" and "your", not "they" and "their". This could be a message to the audience that this is not the week for Tammy to break her IC streak. In other words, if you're waiting for Tammy to lose, you'll need to hold your breath for at least another week. Since we've been given zippo about the IC, I might be stretching too far here, but it would make sense for Tammy to win yet another IC and send Robert to the chopping block. Nothing in the previews prompts us to think anything but business as usual. fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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05-02-02, 12:51 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: Did MB give us the IC winner again???" |
I like your thinking, Bebo (as usual ). I also would add that MB loves the little analogies... the sharks circling in the waters is like the sharks playing the game. Could Kathy be trying to catch a "shark" (control the game), and get "devoured" by them?"Pappy, you smuggled! I'm so proud of you!" -- Neleh Dennis*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings
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05-02-02, 02:09 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: Did MB give us the IC winner again???" |
Hi, Bebo. I suggested the "anticipation" theory earlier but nobody responded so I figured everyone thought my idea was stoopid.  But now I think we've got something here! The only difference between your analysis and mine is the direction EPM's double meaning takes us in. Yours is definitely plausible. I never thought of it in terms of Tammy being the obvious bootee in a lot of people's minds. I know that people who are "just viewers" instead of obsessed, addicted, message-board surfers like us are very easily led by MB and his previews/editing. The people I work with all think Tammy is a shoo-in for the next vote, just like they thought that a Kuchakor would become croc-bait in the Outback. However, I'm still leaning toward an unlikely RC win (still embarrassed to admit that I pick Robert to win this one) because of the info given in the bios, how so-and-so is a lifeguard and so-and-so does yoga; ergo, they can hold their breath longer. I think it's all a load of crap. If Neleh or Kathy win the RC, I'll eat a shark.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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05-02-02, 02:28 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Did MB give us the IC winner again???" |
>Hi, Bebo. I suggested the "anticipation" theory earlier but nobody responded so I figured everyone thought my idea was stoopid. So you're the person who planted that seed in my head! Glad I get to thank you for it. >I never thought of it in terms of Tammy being the obvious bootee in a lot of people's minds. I know that people who are "just viewers" instead of obsessed, addicted, message-board surfers like us are very easily led by MB and his previews/editing. The people I work with all think Tammy is a shoo-in for the next vote They're not the only ones...TDT and Acme have both predicted Tammy goes this week. >However, I'm still leaning toward an unlikely RC win (still embarrassed to admit that I pick Robert to win this one) On the subject of unlikely winners, I picked Paschal, since someone pointed out the vidcap where it looks like he has to make a choice, plus he does show up in a lot of the vidcaps of the preview itself. (Actually, I need to update this in the poll...think I had Tammy there...) TDT has Robert as a possible RC winner, so you're obviously not alone in your thoughts. And welcome, BTW! I noticed you're a fairly new poster.
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