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"It's Heather "
Hockey Lady 40 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-24-02, 09:09 AM (EST)
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"It's Heather " |
While there was an interesting suggestion from last night's show pointing to Bill , I even more firmly believe it's Heather now. *she caved in very fast with that snake last night - cost $100,000 *someone mentioned in another thread that Heather's reflection was seen behind Kathryn, when she arrived with the bugs. *she encourage Bill to put that stupid gnome in his bike basket--which conveniently fell off, breaking the gnone. She had also helped Bill grease the gnome --which could have been "discovered" by AC had Bill not broken the thing. *she very willingly let Al try and balance the wine bottle and glasses. DUH, surprise on that one--NOT *She helped buy complete junk in the market. It was unbuyable the first time, let alone re-sell it!HOWEVER, another comment about the beginning shots of the ships--could be an allusion to Bill. Hmmm... ALSO--why did Dorothy get the gift of the bugs from last year's mole? Thoughts?
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Shealea 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-24-02, 10:09 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: It's Heather " |
I'm not so sure that I think that the fact that she caved in so fast concerning the snake actually makes her more suspicious, cause to tell you the truth....I don't care how much money it was, my butt would've been out that door the second those lights went out, too! No question.
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SurvivingMole 45 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-24-02, 10:16 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: It's Heather " |
Come on...ABC wouldn't put a poisonous snake in with a contestant fearing that something bad would result in it. For 100k, I would do it. That is the same as winning the Cash 5 in pennsylvania. I may have some fears of snakes but I would do everything in my power to get that 100k. But then again, I am talking about earning the money for myself, not the pot. If I was in the game, I would probably have done the same thing. I believe HEATHER is the Mole. Bill is too obvious!!! Dorothy is too smart!!!
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monade 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 11:16 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: It's Heather " |
I agree. I can't stand snake. I may have tolerated it with the lights on, at least I know where it is but with no lights and listening to it hissing. It is not so much that it is poisonous after all snake can constrict....I have seen enough documentaries to know.... if it is provoke, it can swallow a human whole, constrict and then swallow. And that python was long enough to go around Heather. And even if she knew ABC won't put anything dangerous, just the idea of the snake there and then no lights... I would have balk too.
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performanz 46 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-24-02, 12:37 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: It's Heather " |
bbnnnnggg, sorry but the correct answer is Bill. Thanks for playing.
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Hockey Lady 40 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-24-02, 02:00 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: It's Heather " |
time will tell. Bill did manage to add $50,000 to the pot last night.
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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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07-24-02, 02:56 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: It's Heather " |
Heather was not shown in the reflection behind Kathryn. It looks nothing like Heather. If anything it's someone sitting inside the building. The person in the window is like redheaded with dimples and looks like Kathryn, though Kat's reflection is shown too. So, it's not Kat.I don't think Heather getting out makes her anymore suspicious either, though I want to see how she looks, as with Dorothy, and compare it to when they're denying being the mole. I would have gotten out of that bug cage the minute the roaches started pouriong, though, I would have stayed with the snake. So, kudos to Dorothy. As for Tiny Bubbles- I would have left simply because, if I were a player, we would have to take the quiz the next day. Knowing that, I'd want to be rested, and if I couldn't sleep, that would definitely affect my quiz taking abilities. If I were the mole, I would have done it, because I would know Heather would probably leave. That girl can't do anything right.
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MolePlayer 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-25-02, 12:42 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: It's Heather " |
How can you think the Dorothy should win! She has been useless in any game that is physical. She also wouldn't drink Al's wine, but in a later episode, was drinking wine at dinner. She also has about as much emotion as my computer. I would love to see Bill as the Mole and Heather win.
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monade 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 11:21 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: It's Heather " |
I agree. While she is smart....she hasn't contribute anything physical. I find Heather far more balance in talent. Lets not forget she didn't want to contribute her 25,000 to the pot till Al pretty much told her to.
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alleyb 98 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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07-30-02, 03:22 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: It's Heather " |
I have to disagree--this is not a game about physical ability. It really doesn't matter how well anyone does in the challenges either mentally or physically--it only matters how the players are able to use their deficiencies to confuse the other players about who the Mole is. The real game of The Mole is all about interaction and deception--it isn't the challenges (they are secondary, much as the challenges in Survivor are only secondary to the real game). Someone can be completely useless in either the physical or the mental games and still be worthy of winning, if they are able to use their performances (either good or bad) to their advantage. I don't think that Dorothy should be punished because she used her lack of physical skill to throw suspicion on herself. I see that as more of a brilliant tactic. Is she really that weak? Or did she play up her lack of ability to confuse the other players and keep herself in the game? OR did she use her physical "weakness" as a good excuse to screw up the challenges because she is the Mole? I can't wait to find out, but I won't pass judgement on Dorothy's strategy until we find out what was behind it all. Granted, it could be that she is just plain weak, but I still don't think it is a real consideration as to who should win.
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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07-24-02, 03:27 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: It's Heather " |
The snake thing is really not valid, I would have left prior to the lights going out, and I know that pythons are not poisonous. I could not take the snake thing, now if she could have had a chair, anything in the room to stand on, maybe, but not in the dark, Sam I am. I would not do it.However, I do think Heather may be the Mole. She is the most like last years mole and I think thats the way they choose it. Instead of picking the opposite of last years mole, they choose a similar one? Later all, D.R.
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monade 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 11:24 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: It's Heather " |
Being strangle by a snake is the start of being swallowed by a snake. I am sure ABC won't allow anyone dead either. Some people have aversion to certain things like bugs...reptiles or what not. And I can't stand snake so I totally get Heather's apprehension. Actually she tried staying but with the light off... it is a different story.
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mindful 22 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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07-24-02, 04:18 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: It's Heather " |
It could be Heather i mean she wanted an exemption for so long she had chances to get it and lost them and some of the players who got that previlge are not in the game anymore i find it strange that she has had no exemption and she is still in the game
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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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07-24-02, 04:25 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: It's Heather " |
Well, she's in the game only one round longer than Bribs. Now, 2 rounds, actually. I think she would have gone, if she hadn't had Dorothy's help. Not to mention, I think Al and Bribs were both victims of Heather trying to stay in the game. I.E. she misled both of 'em. Bribs had been gunning for Heather since the beginning. Remember bad to episode 4 when Bribs and Darwin were sharing quiz 3 answers, and Darwin said, "Eye color?" Bribs said, "Brown." "Born?" Bribs said, "Texas." Now, maybe he finally went down after voting for her?
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Red Lady 2010 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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07-24-02, 04:32 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: It's Heather " |
Another issue intrigued me last night...How come when Dorothy & Heather ended up together in the living room after Dot had completed her 30-min and Heather had given up her challenge, neither of the ladies suggested trying to find Al and tell him they had lost the challenge? Maybe the producers wouldn't have allowed it...but I thought it kinda strange that they didn't even discuss bailing out Al eventhough they could hear the music droning on and on... I guess they felt they had suffered enuf of Al and it was time for Al to suffer! Regards, Red Lady
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kim5182 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-24-02, 06:04 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: It's Heather " |
Just a comment. When I read in 2 places here that Heather's reflection was in the window behind Katherine, I went back on my video tape and checked. The face in the window doesn't look at all like Heather to me. It might just be a reflection from one of the people running the tv camera.. Just a thought
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LadyLuna 114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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07-24-02, 06:22 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: It's Heather " |
Just a note about the snake thing.I *used* to think I was not afraid of snakes. Of course, the only snakes I had seen were in captivity or being held by a friendly zoo staffer. I had even pet several snakes on different occasions. Then one day, I was walking accross a grass field on campus and I see what I think is a very long wooden stick or log about 3 feet away from me. Then it moved. I gasped, it was a snake. A very big boa. The biggest snake I had ever seen. I completely froze, just froze and realized it was looking at me. I just sat there, unable to move, almost hypnotized as I felt the hair raise on my arms, my heart race and my breathing start to race too. I just stood there. I thought I could hear some laughing very far away, almost in another world--then someone came up to me and touched my arm and said, "are you ok?" It was a student. He explained that this snake belonged to the biology department and that they were letting it out to get some exercise. He explained that they routinely put him in the grass on one end of the field and let him slither to the other end. He showed me a group of people waiting for the snake to make it accross and they waved at me. He also explained that my reaction was quite normal and that they try to keep people off the field when this is happening but that they didn't see me coming. All this to say... I do not doubt that Heather was scared. I think fear of large snakes is instinctive and cannot always be controlled.
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AnnaBanana 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-24-02, 07:05 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: It's Heather " |
It would be a lot more interesting for me at the end if Heather was the mole.
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07-25-02, 10:27 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: It's Heather " |
This reminds me of last year when the producers didn't tell Kathryn about the knife throwing challenge.
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survivorscott 2191 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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07-25-02, 11:27 AM (EST)
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20. "Shopping" |
I don't buy the shopping for junk clue. Initialy they had no idea they were buying things for resale, they were just told to buy. So they could have just bought junk.
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Hockey Lady 40 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 05:05 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Shopping" |
Yes, but the mole knew ahead that the items would have to be resold, therefore, the mole would buy stuff that was unsellable on purpose...
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mountainbiker107 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-26-02, 08:30 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: It's Heather " |
Actually, Anderson told her that she had to stay until he came and got her....he never said it would be ALL NIGHT. So, it could have been 10 minutes or 5 hours...we would have only known if she didn't bail.
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BaquaR13 1336 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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07-25-02, 07:21 PM (EST)
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23. "There is NO WAY in hell it's Heather...." |
And i will tell you why. She is too convincing. Now, this may sound stupid, but think about it. She has swore on her bible, her wedding ring, she has cried after losing challenges, she has been so nervous she is shaking before executions, she told Bribs (one of her closest friends) that she isnt the mole so please don't choose her because she wants him to stay around. She is trying too hard not to be the mole. The mole is someone like the remaining two players who silently sabatoges. Not by swearing to people that they aren't the mole. But i will tell you one thing, if she is the mole, IT WILL BE THE SHOCK OF A LIFETIME AND A TRULY GREAT TWIST!!!! I wish she was, but she clearly is not.The True Survivor Fox!!
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SurvivingMole 45 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 07:29 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: There is NO WAY in hell it's Heather...." |
No offense to you, but your reasoning can be totally turned around! Kathryn Price last year stated that she would swear on her grave that she wasn't the mole. She showed too much mercy and she credits that to people catching on to her. HEATHER IS THE MOLE IN MY OPINION! Bill is way too obvious, Dorothy is too smart!
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SurvivingMole 45 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 09:21 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: There is NO WAY in hell it's Heather...." |
hahaha...I still can't believe they broke up! Kathryn Price said at the reunion about giving next year's Mole advice-something along these lines " Show no mercy. Steve (Cowles) asked me to swear on my grave after the 1st execution that I wasn't the Mole but I would not do that. If I had to do it again, I would have done it and did him in that day!" I have the reunion show on tape and have watched her say it again and again- Heather is a little different since she is certainly more religious but it would be a great cover for the Mole. Catcha later, SurvivingMole
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cyclehausen 1197 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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07-25-02, 09:45 PM (EST)
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27. "I'd swear..." |
...on anything you gave me if I were the Mole. What's the point in picking someone to be the ultimate traitor in a national show, if they won't do whatever it takes to remain undetected?
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EthnicGoddess 38 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-25-02, 10:45 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: It's Heather " |
Now that I think about it, Heather WOULD be the perfect pick for the mole, just because it truly would be a great, unexpected twist. I will enjoy the finale so much more if I'm surprised when the mole's identity is revealed. Heather's feelings seem SO genuine though. If they're not, then I think she's quite an actress!
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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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07-26-02, 02:41 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: It's Heather " |
I remember Bribs was talking about how much he suspected Heather. Thinking back to episode 4, he told Darwin what he voted on the quiz. "Eye color?" Bribs: "Brown." Darwin: "Place of birth?" Bribs: "Texas." Which, of course is Heather. Then, later, Heather says it's key to get them to fumble on the quiz. And, she told Bribs if he wanted to stay not to vote for her, to get him to fumble on the quiz. So, I think after the exemption scene, which fooled many of us home viewers, he for the only time in his quiz interview said he didn't suspect Heather. That she was, "Either genuine or quite an actress." Funny how when that happened, Bribs went home.And, my only real proof that it's not Bill is that Katie voted for her 2nd suspect, after her first: Elavia, left. Her 2nd suspect was Bill. Obviously, Bill wasn't right, because she was gone. I think Heather's a mole and Dorothy's the winner, because whenever they talk about winners, they show Dot. Hm, watch the mole be Anderson and the winner be Bill. Hell if I know.
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evanakm 250 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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07-29-02, 10:15 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: It's Heather " |
LAST EDITED ON 07-29-02 AT 10:16 PM (EST)I've said several times before that even though I am a HeatherFOMO, the only thing that made me question her moleness was the fact that she waited too long before doing any real sabotage, and the fact that she never got herself chosen for any challenges, and was thus UTR, which I never thought the producers would let happen. I don't think the producers would really like having more than 1 luck-based execution. I have finally found the missing piece of the puzzle, making me almost positive that Bill is just an editing room decoy. On the "observations" section of the ABC website, the E2 observation about Heather is: Heather complained about not being able to participate in High Card, arousing suspicions that she was supposed to be in the game for a reason. Now, I did not watch E2 on the second airing, I only saw it last fall, so I do not remember this. But Blackjack was a game that could be easily sabotaged without a lot of suspicion, and starting with the LJ/LJ game there has been a string of suspicious behavior in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. There has not been an episode since then in which Heather has not either blown a challenge, gotten the group penalized, attempted to cost the team money (tracker game) and/or missed an exemption. In short, Heather is the mole. Last year, Kathryn did something as the mole in every episode except the first, and this is something I figured would happen this year. And if Heather had gotten to play Blackjack, it would have.
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ThE_mOlE_gUrL 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-30-02, 02:53 PM (EST)
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43. "Stupid clue....but you never know..." |
LAST EDITED ON 07-30-02 AT 02:56 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 07-30-02 AT 02:54 PM (EST) This may sound stupid, but I was watching the intro order on one of my tapes, and I slowed it down to frame by frame. I noticed that in Heather's picture, it showed her ear pierced in her UPPER RIGHT EAR but in all of the episodes it's in her UPPER LEFT EAR.(!!!!)They must have reversed the picture, so I think this could be referring to a "double agent". This is really out there but I've heard worse, and I'll take anything I can get for us HeatherFOMO's. If this turns out to be a clue in the last episode, I'll wet myself with glee. ROFLMAO Edited to say~ Oh my heck the picture isn't working. Can anyone get one?
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malibubarbie 434 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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07-30-02, 10:14 PM (EST)
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44. "I Now Am 100% Confident" |
Dude, guys, what have I been saying since Katie got executed? She voted for Bill. In the preview, Katies says, "Heather is the mole." Now, of course, she thinks Heather double crossed her, and she did. Now, this is my logic. Katie voted for Bill, otherwise, she'd say Bill was the mole. Right? That's what everyone else thinks. Not to mention he was her #2 suspect after Elavia. Elavia goes, bam! Right to Bill. After that, she goes home. Byebye Katie. Heather hangs around. So, Katie has never suspected Dot. This leaves me with Heather. Heather is the mole.
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Hockey Lady 40 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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07-30-02, 10:21 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: I Now Am 100% Confident" |
just as I said! Welcome to the club! Too bad we have to wait til next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WiseAssMaster 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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07-30-02, 10:59 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: I Now Am 100% Confident" |
I agree, i seriously do not believe Bill is the mole...i am almost 100% positive that it's heather, she's "accidently" screwed up too many games and lost too much money. If bill is the mole...well then i just might die of surprise. And the like half percent of me that doesn't believe it's heather, believes it's dorothy. Mainly cause bill hasn't screwed up that often....in fact he rarely EVER messed up.
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