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missygirl3 541 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-29-04, 05:54 AM (EST) "Kevin" do you guys think that Kevin was too nice to Elizabeth? I do. I would really let her have it. He was way too nice in the boardroom as well. What does everyone else think??? BTW, do ya think if someone whacked Maria on the back really hard her eyes would pop out???   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Kevin Ricky 10-29-04 1    RE: Kevin eagle_eyez 10-29-04 2  RE: Kevin rtrader 10-29-04 3    RE: Kevin eagle_eyez 10-29-04 4    RE: Kevin ARnutz 10-29-04 23  RE: Kevin TechNoir 10-29-04 5    Tsk, tsk, tsk... HistoryDetective 10-29-04 7        snark! DontGetMeStarted 10-29-04 24  RE: Kevin Chuck45 10-29-04 6  RE: Kevin What 10-29-04 8    Kevin is a law student realitychick 10-29-04 10    RE: Kevin frodo2 10-29-04 14        Who is the one from last year that ... DontGetMeStarted 10-29-04 25    RE: Kevin Captain_Savem 10-29-04 21  RE: Kevin okaychatt 10-29-04 9  RE: Kevin Oscirus 10-29-04 11  RE: Kevin Out4Blood 10-29-04 12    RE: Kevin frodo2 10-29-04 13    RE: Kevin qwertypie 10-29-04 19  RE: Kevin Bebo 10-29-04 15    RE: Kevin Captain_Savem 10-29-04 22  Kevin is stronger than Kwame frodo2 10-29-04 16    RE: Kevin is stronger than Kwame beardance58 10-29-04 17    RE: Kevin is stronger than Kwame RealityX 10-29-04 26    RE: Kevin is stronger than Kwame trigirl 10-30-04 27  RE: Kevin beardance58 10-29-04 18  I'd love to see Kevin deal with Oma... amea_gari 10-29-04 20  RE: Kevin BOYmeetsREALITY 10-30-04 28    RE: Kevin ARnutz 10-30-04 29        RE: Kevin BOYmeetsREALITY 10-30-04 30            RE: Kevin ARnutz 10-30-04 31

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Ricky 1106 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 10-29-04, 06:42 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Kevin" No, I think Kevin tried to explain things to Elizabeth as would be expected if they were working together at a company. The others were just mean to her and wouldn't really help her. She knew that military concept wasn't a good idea but the team wouldn't back her up. Raj was the one pushing the military idea so hard, he's just as much too blame.   Top

eagle_eyez 78 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-29-04, 07:14 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Kevin" >No, I think Kevin tried to >explain things to Elizabeth as >would be expected if they >were working together at a >company. The others were just >mean to her and wouldn't >really help her. She knew >that military concept wasn't a >good idea but the team >wouldn't back her up. Raj >was the one pushing the >military idea so hard, he's >just as much too blame. > I agree here. There was really no need for Kevin to lash out at Elizabeth because Jen M. was doing a great job at that. He just explained what was going on and that was all. She knew that he had worked hard on the task and was straight with her so that's why she didn't chose him to go in there with her. But as we all saw, it didn't matter and she was fired anyway.   Top

rtrader 277 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-29-04, 08:58 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Kevin" do you guys think that Kevin was too nice to Elizabeth? I do. I would really let her have it. He was way too nice in the boardroom as well. What does everyone else think??? I think Kevin geniunely wanted to win this task, and since Elizabeth was the project leader, he figured he had to work with her. Elizabeth was so incompetant that Kevin tried to politely tell her she needs to become decisive and try to salvage the team task, but she wouldn't listen, so even Kevin gave up on her. I think he was also smart enough to see the writing on the wall (in the boardroom), and Kevin doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who bashes people in the boardroom. He just explains what happened and if someone is at fault, he points that out without letting it get too personal.   Top

eagle_eyez 78 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-29-04, 09:05 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Kevin" >I think Kevin geniunely wanted to >win this task, and since >Elizabeth was the project leader, >he figured he had to >work with her. Elizabeth >was so incompetant that Kevin >tried to politely tell her >she needs to become decisive >and try to salvage the >team task, but she wouldn't >listen, so even Kevin gave >up on her. I >think he was also smart >enough to see the writing >on the wall (in the >boardroom), and Kevin doesn't seem >to be the kind of >guy who bashes people in >the boardroom. He just >explains what happened and if >someone is at fault, he >points that out without letting >it get too personal. Very well said. I agree completely   Top

ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-29-04, 06:48 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Kevin" I agree... very well said! I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.   Top

TechNoir 9741 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-29-04, 09:12 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Kevin" Yes, I think Kevin was too nice to Elizabeth. I said at the time that he should have just pulled out a weapon and shot her between the eyes.   Top

HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-29-04, 11:48 AM (EST) 7. "Tsk, tsk, tsk..." Now, Tech, you're confusing foreign policy with good business practices. He should have given her a tax break just to distract her and shut her up.   Top

DontGetMeStarted 880 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 10-29-04, 06:55 PM (EST) 24. "snark! " good ones!   Top

Chuck45 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-29-04, 11:29 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Kevin" I agree with the others that it wasn't necessary to go off on Elizabeth. Kevin handled it in the professional manner required. Kevin is great at being stable and to the point. Good luck to him.   Top

What 209 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-29-04, 11:55 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Kevin" I think it's a love hate thing between Kevin and Liz. I mean, who says "shut up" during an interview? Perhaps that was Kevin's way of giving Elizabeth a promotion. Maybe, if she's willing to shut the fock up, she should work for the CIA. She's all questions and no answers. I think if someone whacked Maria on the back, she'd fall down and her boobs would fall out because her "heels" are so high. Not that she has a chip on her shoulder or anything.   Top

realitychick 200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-29-04, 12:10 PM (EST) 10. "Kevin is a law student" I could see his candor and negotiating skills at work. He should have been commended for what he did. He tried to take a situation and nip it in the bud to get things resolved and done. Kevin can be my attorney anytime!   Top

frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-29-04, 02:37 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Kevin" I mean, who says "shut up" during an interview? Kevin was trying to shock her into a different state. Elizabeth was worried and emotional she couldn't think straight. Most of the candidates don't even get as much as she got in the way of coaching from Kevin, so she lost fair and square.   Top

DontGetMeStarted 880 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 10-29-04, 06:59 PM (EST) 25. "Who is the one from last year that she reminds" me of Kristi? I think it was the fetish model... or was that on Joe Million..? She is like someone else (forgettable) though...   Top

Captain_Savem 3731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 10-29-04, 06:40 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Kevin" It was either that or b!tch slap. I think he made the correct choice. The Evolution Continues...   Top

okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-29-04, 12:08 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Kevin" LAST EDITED ON 10-29-04 AT 12:09 PM (EST) No, I think Keven was just being professional. Why create drama if you can just take care of business? The man is a class act. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.   Top

Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 10-29-04, 12:40 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Kevin" LAST EDITED ON 10-29-04 AT 12:41 PM (EST) There was no need for him to go off on her in the boardroom it would only make him look like an a55 to do so with everybody else already going off on her. As for earlier he showed alot of patience putting up with her bs be4 he reached his boiling point. He was the only one who showed any professionalism by at least pulling her outside and trying to explain all this to her.   Top

Out4Blood 52 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-29-04, 01:08 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Kevin" Kevin earned the right to tell it to her straight by staying up half the night with her working on a new campaign theme. She deserved the abuse he gave her when she back-trakced on THAT theme as well. Kevin was rightfully, pissed, but at least he went I told it to her straight. The others were all talking behind her back.   Top

frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-29-04, 02:35 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Kevin" That wouldn't even qualify as abuse. He told her the facts and tried to get her to calm down, but Elizabeth was operating from a frame of fear. If you can't even tell someone they're doing something wrong, then every parent abuses their child. Every single one.   Top

qwertypie 9776 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-29-04, 04:40 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Kevin" I so agree, and she was so clueless that she totally missed the heads up he was trying to send. And I do think Maria's eyes would pop out. (BTW, does she wear ill fitting contacts? That would explain all the BLINKING, or maybe it is a tic.) Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-29-04, 02:37 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Kevin" Kevin was tactful and smart. I think the tactfulness was just his standard way of treating people. He didn't need to go off on her in the boardroom - why stick out as a malcontent when Elizabeth's blunders spoke such volumes? He had nothing to gain by being a bad guy. Please abide in my words, for my references speak of the truth that is within me.   Top

Captain_Savem 3731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 10-29-04, 06:44 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Kevin" He had nothing to gain by being a bad guy. Yeah, that's Shake's job... The Evolution Continues...   Top

frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-29-04, 02:41 PM (EST) 16. "Kevin is stronger than Kwame" I think Kevin is stronger than Kwame. In addition to being likeable and honorable, he's not afraid to discipline a subordinate or call out BS when he sees it. Those are necessary leadership traits. Kevin also won his task and turned around a difficult situation when Andy's million dollar giveaway idea failed. If he can get past the interview episode, he's got a shot at the final rounds.   Top

beardance58 78 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-29-04, 02:45 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Kevin is stronger than Kwame" What interview episode? K.   Top

RealityX 106 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-29-04, 07:18 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Kevin is stronger than Kwame" >I think Kevin is stronger than >Kwame. In addition to being >likeable and honorable, he's not >afraid to discipline a subordinate >or call out BS when >he sees it. Those are >necessary leadership traits. So far it seems Kevin is more involved in putting ideas out on the table and fighting in a loud voice. Kevin's style may be more dramatic and entertaining, but Kwame's style may be more smooth, conservative, and long term. Kwame said he came up in a family like on the Cosby Show, which would make him a long term man. Kwame's Harvard MBA "gets loud" for him.   Top

trigirl 2851 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-30-04, 09:59 AM (EST) 27. "RE: Kevin is stronger than Kwame" I think Kevin is stronger than Kwame. ...and Bill!   Top

beardance58 78 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-29-04, 02:47 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Kevin" Is Kevin being set up in our eyes? I mean, he is looking an awful like the good guy -- is he just being set up to fail? I mean, they could edit that stuff out and not make him look so good... K.   Top

amea_gari 585 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-29-04, 06:03 PM (EST) 20. "I'd love to see Kevin deal with Omarosa" Someone down the line said that Kevin is stronger than Kwame, and this made me imagine Kevin in Kwame's place, that last episode last season. Mmm. I was very disappointed in Kwame when he didn't call SWMNBN out. Kevin does seem to be a straight shooter. Dare I hope that she who must not be named makes a reappearance? *ducks as people throw rotten vegetables at her*   Top

BOYmeetsREALITY 308 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-30-04, 02:30 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Kevin" Too nice? Hmmm.....no. Actually, he displayed the sort of control and professionalism one would expect of a friendly co-worker or manager. He did all he could to help her on the project. As a team member, Kevin knows that "as the PM goes, so does the team." If the team loses, he has to go back to the boardroom! In the back of his head somewhere, a little voice was reminding him that HE ALONE is the one who hand selected Elizabeth to be on his team. I think that's why he was so eager to help save the project. Nice, maybe. But it was all about self-preservation..... Besides, you can only correct a person's mistakes so many times before you realize you are wasting your time.   Top

ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-30-04, 03:15 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Kevin" Hello Boy, I agree with everything you said! It was very well put. I'm confused on this point: In the back of his head somewhere, a little voice was reminding him that HE ALONE is the one who hand selected Elizabeth to be on his team. If you mean when the teams were mixed? It was Jenn M. who kept Elizabeth on Apex, while Kevin was sent over there by Wes. Unless you were perhaps referring to something else that I missed? I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.   Top

BOYmeetsREALITY 308 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-30-04, 03:54 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Kevin" YIKES! Thanks for setting me straight ARNUTZ! You didn't miss a thing! I was so happy to be able to find some time to post here that I mistook Kevin as being the one who chose teams and not Wes! I blew that thought right out of the wrong hole I guess! HAHA! Sorry for the confusion!   Top

ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-30-04, 03:57 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Kevin" It's OK. These candidates confuse us all the time! I've made my share of mistakes too, no biggie! I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.   Top

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