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"Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
The Apprentice: Week 7 analysis

Stacy FINALLY got fired this week on the Apprentice. And we've finally got a hot streak going where the firings are at least partially related to how well the candidate performed during the task. Maybe Trump realized that while firing people randomly on a whim might be great for his ego, it doesn't do anything to help ratings. Trump and Burnett like to brag about how their show has one of the richest and most educated demographics in prime time, but if they want to keep that demo, they need to stick more to merit-based firings rather than transforming into the Jerry Springer show.

Big twist this week was the recall of everyone to the boardroom, where the freshly chosen PMs were asked to shuffle the teams. This time by picking the players they did NOT want. Oooh. The effect is the same as if you were picking the ones you wanted, but it feels so much more harsh to the individuals being selected. More importantly, it gives Trump MUCH-NEEDED information on who the "strong" and "weak" candidates are, since he's shown himself to be pretty clueless so far this season. And it plays out in that the first person chosen by Jenn M. as a "weak" candidate ended up getting fired.

Based on our rankings so far, Jenn M. got by far the better team out of this shuffling. Wes is a poor judge of talent. He kept Andy or both Kevin and Raj. He was right to keep Kelly, but he should have sent Andy packing, particularly since he said (later in the boardroom) that Andy had always required lots of management. The REAL mistake this episode was in choosing Wes as the leader. The men are being very egalitatarian about this, but in a suprise twist situation, they should have gone with one of the stronger guns, even one who has already led, rather than just going down the list random list. Imagine if Kelly has been chosen. He could have picked both Kevin and Raj and they would have dominated.

So, 3 of our 4 positives (Jenn M., Raj, Kevin) are on one team, while only one (Kelly) is on the other team.

Another interesting dynamic is that everyone on the new Apex has led a task, but there are two candidates on Mosaic who have not: Sandy and Andy. (Hey that rhymes!) Previews suggest that Andy and Elizabeth lead this week. My ungrounded prediction is that Apex loses and Elizabeth gets fired.

So here's my updated rankings of the Apprentice players:

Positive - these are the candidates who have stepped up (so far) and look to be strong contenders for the top prize. In descending order...

Kelly - He continues to be a strong leader for the team even when not chosen. Both Carolyn and George have said very positive things about him. He'll be around for awhile.

Jenn M - Finally getting her shot to lead, she shows that she has good leadership talent, and is not afraid to lead by example. Ivana's comments saying that Jenn doesn't know the difference between leading the team and being a team member say more about Ivana's lack of leadership than it does about Jenn.

Kevin - He finally got some decent airtime this week. My bet is on Kevin to be #3 at the end.

Raj - His star is definitely waning. His eccentricities have been wearing thin, but he did contribute this week by getting Jenn M. to diversify to a new location.

Neutral - these are candidates who either have not stood out yet, or have had both positive and negative exposures. In descending order...

Maria - She's probably the #2 remaining woman since she has a victory under her belt, but I sense she could be a scapegoat if Mosaic loses soon.

Andy - Andy's make or break moment appears to be coming up next episode.

Chris - Chris keeps digging himself deeper into the hole of obnoxious New Yorker. Would anyone hire this guy to run a business. Being able to hustle stocks is one thing, but showing overt disrespect for customers and their needs is toxic. Brings to mind the "Boiler Room."

Negative - these are candidates about whom I would be shocked if they made it to the final four. In descending order...

Sandy - She contributed pretty heartily to the team effort this week. Much more so than...

Wes - He got lucky by having the Most Annoying Candidate Ever on his team to fire as a scapegoat, because his leadership was extremely poor. He made bad chocies at nearly every turn. Didn't start washing dogs until 12:30?!

Ivana - She and Liz swap places since she at least is stable and doesn't break out crying. In a pinch she can do Excel, so she's not completely worthless.

Liz - No change from last week. Even Pamela does not have a favorable impression of her.

Stacy got the boot. Never was a firing more deserved. I'm inclined to hire her for a speaking engagement if only to hear about "Dating Lessons Learned from the Apprentice."
Speaking of websites, here are the current web addresses of your all the candidates.

Stacy - http://stacyrotner.com/
Kelly - http://kellypredew.com/
Pam - http://pamday.com/
Andy - http://www.andylitinsky.com/
Chris - http://216.134.223.200/crusso/
Jenn M. - http://www.jennifermassey.com/. Although it doesn't appear to be working.
Ivana - http://www.ivanama.com/
Liz - http://www.elizabethjarosz.com/
Maria - http://www.mariaboren.com/
Wes - http://www.wesmoss.com/
Raj - http://www.rajbhakta.com/
Sandy - http://www.sandyferreira.com/
John - http://www.johnwillenborg.com/. By the way, he has a picture which shows John, Stacy, and Elizabeth together with Heidi. The thing those (3) people might have in common is that they were fired in that order. Hmmm. Another spoiler?
Bradford - http://www.crimdefend.com/
Jenn C. - http://www.jennifercrisafulli.com/
StacieJ - http://www.staciej.com/
Heck, even Rob has a website - http://www.robflanagan.com/. And he was on the show, what?, 15 minutes?

Only Kevin does not yet appear to have milked his fleeting fame. What would be Kevin's address: kevinallen.com redirects to Warner Bros.

My personal favorite of all these is definitely Raj's site. It is clearly ALL RAJ!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 would you hire any of these people ... pooball 10-27-04 1
 candidates and analysis trigirl 10-27-04 2
 RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... hunterjax 10-27-04 3
 RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... idiotcowboy 10-27-04 4
   RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... Out4Blood 10-27-04 6
   RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... speardefense33 10-27-04 7
       RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... idiotcowboy 10-28-04 10
 I realize that this should go into ... Oscirus 10-27-04 5
   . jae 10-28-04 8
       RE: . Out4Blood 10-28-04 9
           RE: . lindan 10-29-04 14
 Candidates' Websites Pepito 10-28-04 11
   RE: Candidates' Websites realitychick 10-28-04 12
 RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... banzai 10-28-04 13
   RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of can... jae 10-29-04 15

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10-27-04, 12:26 PM (EST)
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1. "would you hire any of these people to speak??"
LAST EDITED ON 10-27-04 AT 12:29 PM (EST)

why do they all have these sites advertising their speaking services.... honestly who CARES what these people have to say? anyone? the only person i would hire would be chris and it wouldn't be to speak. thanks.

i love how the "press" section on Jen C's site conveniently leaves out the whole jew thing. that would be hilarious if she posted it. interestingly, though she apologized on the view, she has left it off her site completely.

i TOTALLY agree about ivana... what a moron criticizing Jen M for leading BY EXAMPLE. That's how good leaders are - they inspire you to work by working themselves. What's better, leading by example or leading by botched up consensus (how many ice cream flavors were on that board ivana?)

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10-27-04, 01:16 PM (EST)
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2. "candidates and analysis"
I agree with your analysis of the candidates. However, Sandy moved up a notch on my respctometer with a hard-working, non-complaining turn washing the dogs.

Jenn M, Kevin and Kelly for final 3 fur shure.

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3. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
That was a fantastic analysis. I think you're top 3 are wise choices. I am still intrigued by Sandy. She has stayed under the radar for quite some time. Either she could be a sleeper or she's so lackluster that she'll be passed right over. She really hasn't done anything drastically wrong to be brought to the boardroom. We may have to wait for her to be PM before figuring her out.

Thanks for the website addresses. So far I only glanced at Raj's site. What a character he is. Can he really be that full of himself or is it all a joke/act? Even his style of writing is so formal. He truly is from a different era. He reminds me of a former coworker who took to wearing a fedora and ballroom dancing at the ripe ole age of 28.

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10-27-04, 02:38 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
While I dont disagree with most of your analysis there are a couple of points...

> And it plays out in that the first person chosen by Jenn M.
> as a "weak" candidate ended up getting fired.

Sandy was the first choosen not Stacy, and I expect it is because she in fact is the weakest link which does not mean she will be fired before the other women, just that her contributions are the least.

> Liz - No change from last week. Even Pamela does not have a
> favorable impression of her.

Where did we get the info that Pamela doesnt have a favorible opinion of Liz from? This is just curiosity because if it comes post-game then it could be jealous talking, and if Liz somehow wins as the PM this week (after she should have won as the PM of her previous project) then she will go from next fired to last woman standing (other than Jen of course).

-ICB

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10-27-04, 05:04 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
Whoops, that last comment was from a previous week.
Basically, it came from the boardroom scenes where Pam was discussing Elizabeth, not post-show comments.

You're right on the Sandy vs. Stacy order. I must have missed that! There goes my theory... although not completetely.

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10-27-04, 09:31 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
Good analysis from everybody here. I agree that Sandy is flying under the radar. I actually wrote that in my own rankings. She seems to have avoided all the feather-ruffling.

BTW, idiotcowboy, have you written any more "summaries" since the 2nd episode? The one where Bradford was fired was one of the funniest things I've ever read.

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10-28-04, 11:38 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
> BTW, idiotcowboy, have you written any more "summaries" since
> the 2nd episode? The one where Bradford was fired was one of
> the funniest things I've ever read.

Thanks for the nice comments (your check is in the mail )

The specific answer to your question is no, that is the last summary I have written. One of the nice things about this site is everyone is given the opportunity to participate if they want, and one of the easiest ways is volunteering to write a summary (especially for one of less popular shows). The downside (if you want to call it that) is that generally the writers only get one show slot per season, but since it gives more people the opportunity to contribute, it's all good!

-ICB

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10-27-04, 04:52 PM (EST)
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5. "I realize that this should go into the spoiler board"
however since the topic is her why is it that Jennifer and Kevin are the only two of the remaining candidates without a working website?


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8. "."
Several things:

1. I disagree that Raj is a "positive".

2. Well the final 3 are pretty much confirmed, but who will occupy slot #4? I can't believe Nick ended up #4 last season, so I think it may be the same this time in the sense that it will be occupied by someone purely because of the luck of the draw.

3. I think having only 2 members on a team is silly. I couldn't even tell who was PM when Versacorp was down to just Amy & Nick. Maybe they will play until they're down to 5 and then fire 2 or 3 people together.

4. I think people are putting too much stake on candidates being winning project managers. Maria, Chris and Raj won as PM and it didn't improve their standing one bit imo.

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10-28-04, 02:11 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: ."
Other than my top 3 (Kelly, Jenn M, and Kevin) who do you think is better than Raj?
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10-29-04, 06:02 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: ."
After the week 8 Episode, I would say given the way how Andy has led his team, took control of everyone, and earned the respect of his team members, he is better than Raj. I don't think he will make the Final 2, but he has a good chance of making the Final 4.
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10-28-04, 12:27 PM (EST)
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11. "Candidates' Websites"
Thanks for the list of Candidates' websites! I haven't had a chance to look ALL of them over yet, but I did check out Stacy R.'s site:

"... She has also worked on matters involving intellectual property law dealing with issues that include entertainment law, copyright law, trademark law and art law. In addition, Stacy has significant public speaking experience."

Is this property law etc. thing the bit she did on the QVC challenge? And the public speaking, The Apprentice experience again? The Today Show, etc. etc...

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12. "RE: Candidates' Websites"
Whoooooooooooooah. Thanks for Raj's site. He looks so debonaire without that bowtie and the new haircut. He's added to my calendar boy list! What a difference!
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13. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
Did you guys check out Stacy R. website?
She does public speaking about "Dating Lessons Learned from the Apprentice".
What's she going to talk about? Raj & Anna? She wasn't there.
Did she flirt with the cameramen? Run everybody run.
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15. "RE: Week 7: Complete ranking of candidates and analysis"
>Other than my top 3
>(Kelly, Jenn M, and Kevin)
>who do you think is better than Raj?

Last week I had Raj at 6th below Elizabeth and Andy.

This week, I have Raj at 7th below Andy, Wes and, yes, Chris.

01 Jen M
02 Andy
03 Kevin
04 Kelly
05 Wes
06 Chris
07 Raj
08 Ivana
09 Sandy
10 Maria

This isn't a prediction of the order in which I think they're going to get fired tho. It's just how much I like them and anyone ranked below #4 is truly despicable and anyone below #2 is just plain annoying.

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