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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-08-15, 01:57 AM (EST) "Signs of Survival: Second Chance - Gettin' Out The Vote" LAST EDITED ON 05-13-15 AT 04:21 AM (EST) And we're off to the polls! Moreover, the eternal optimist and overeager patriot in me (I am, after all, a Sagittarius) insists that there is a remote possibility that our votes may actually be counted. So, I thought that I would do my duty to participatory reality by posting my own modest Voting Guide that I hope will be helpful to the masses who think of this election as merely a means to staff a Season when each of us - masses, that is - could, with a bit of voter education, also directly influence its outcome as this sweet and ever-so-fleeting scent of anarchy wafts on the Spring of 31's gentle breezes. How so? Well ... First, take a fresh and loving look at that dull-as-dirt Chart – the one that I’ve been updating forever – just below. Notice that in its upper left corner it features a record of the Sun Signs' performances in every completed Season (nine, to date) with a Fire and Air Majority. In it's lower left corner you'll find the results of the six completed Seasons that began with a Balanced cast: 50% - Earth and Water | 50% - Fire and Air. And the right side of the Chart contains the record of the fourteen completed Seasons that began with an Earth and Water Majority. Now, with bated breath and renewed awe, listen yet once again as I dulcetly intone ... An Earth or Water native has won two of the Balanced Seasons. A Fire or Air native has won four. The two (to date) All-Returnee Seasons each began with a Balanced cast and a female Fire | Leo native (Amber and Sandra) won both. So, neither Earth and Water - or Fire and Air - natives are at a huge disadvantage - or enjoy an impressive advantage - in Balanced crapshoots. Not so, however, in Majority | Minority Seasons. As you can see, a native of the Majority Sun Sign culture has won 20 (87%) of those 23 completed Seasons. And if any remaining citizen of Merica other than Rodney (Earth | Virgo) is the Sole Survivor of Worlds Apart, that record will improve to 21 (88%) of 24. Now, suppose that you really want Terry Deitz (Air | Libra) - - to win Second Chance. Do you want to also vote for a single Earth and Water native? Or suppose that you really want Kass McQuillen (Water | Scorpio) - - to have a viable chance to be victorious in December. Do you want to also vote for Terry? Or for any other Fire or Air native? Hint: No! You really don't. Because you want your favorite second-timer to have that huge advantage that playing in a Season with a copacetic Majority affords. So, if that favorite is a Fire or Air Sign, you'll want to vote for other Fire and Air Signs. And if your favorite is an Earth or Water personality, it is virtually essential that he or she plays the Game in an Earth and Water Majority Season if you expect your guy or gal to bring home the $1,000,000. Accordingly, you'll vote a straight party ticket. Won't you? And without further ado, here's the Chart ... But wait! How will you know who's what Astrological flavor? Well, there's more ... I've also included two Sample Ballots in my Guide. And, among other things, you will notice that only six of sixteen women are Fire and Air natives (with the practical effect that only those six would have any realistic hope of winning a Season with a Fire and Air Majority). You will also notice that only four of sixteen men are Earth and Water natives (with the practical effect that only those four would have any realistic hope of winning a Season with an Earth and Water Majority). And this is where I once again intone 'Tina, Yul and Jud have proven that a win by a Minority native can happen. But, t'aint likely.' Note: All of those E&W Women and F&A Men sure make you wonder what Probst and Company have in mind for our little election, don't they? Note: With the two Ballots are brief Profiles of the four Elements. Artist ~ Vi Nin Vannak EARTH Practical and Useful Structured and Productive Grounded and Sensual Tactile and Dependable The ‘Practical’ Earth Signs are grounded and dependable. All of the earthy metaphors are appropriate here: ‘Salt of the earth’, ‘Feet firmly planted on the ground’, ‘Solid as a rock’, etc. Often referred to as the ‘builders’ of the Zodiac, creativity is a tangible proposition to these natives and they feel best once they have accumulated a goodly number of worldly possessions. Blending in with their natural habitat – grounded – Earth Signs engage life through the five senses and as a result operate at a slower, more thorough, pace than do the natives of other Elements. Often intimately attuned to the dance of nature – most treasure their time spent outdoors – they are masters at assessing, assembling and organizing … things. The Element of Earth also confers a sense of duty, responsibility and reliability to those in its sphere. Their gift to others is bringing form to ideas: often making them an excellent balancing partner for an idle dreamer with potential. They tend their own garden and inspire others to make the most of theirs. These are the people you can count on to ‘be there’ when you need them. Tending toward caution and conservatism in desire and approach, their logical minds and measured responses display an innate recuperative capacity: much preferring a sure thing, these folks do not take big risks. That said, however, certainly in that they appreciate a good meal, congenial company and fine wine better than anyone else, they are also sensualists. On the flip side: Earth Signs can become so caught up in their objectives that they overlook the feelings and opinions of others. And their single-minded focus on the tasks at hand make them vulnerable to the "all work and no play" eddy of life. It is a big picture, after all, but these natives may be more concerned with the finish line than with the journey they are taking. So, while Earth’s orientation toward the real and their need for tangible results in return for their labors can make them very productive, too much of those good things can be stifling to inspiration, faith and a sense of greater purpose. And the ever-present risk inherent in their acquisitive nature is that they may become greedy and far too materialistic. WATER Intuitive and Emotional Imaginative and Nurturing Secretive and Dreamy Introverted The ‘Emotional’ Water Signs are intuitive, sensitive and empathetic. How things feel is what matters to these nurturers and they base their actions on sense, rather than on logic or intellect. Attuned to waves of emotion, these natives have a built-in sonar for reading a mood that affords them a special sensitivity in relationships. Because the receptive talents of these individuals are so remarkably high, they seem to know when to show warmth and when to hold back. Compassionate and understanding, Water Sign natives are extraordinarily adept at assimilating the feelings of others, processing them and offering plans or solutions that will usually be considerate of all. So, at their best, they are a healing force that brings people together. But, because Water natives are often assessing a situation by its undercurrents, they can seem aloof or even shy at first. And going forward in a relationship or situation often means being sure of their emotional ground: a kind of decision-making process that is baffling to more spontaneous or practical types. That's why those with this Sign are so quickly shaped by their relationships to others and often have to work harder than do the natives of other Elements to maintain their personal boundaries. They need time alone to remember where they end and others begin and to let what's been stirred up by the push and pull of life find its way to a quiet calm again. These are people who need people but who also need the restorative balm of solitude. Water natives often translate their sense of the world artistically. Some find release from their own personal dramas when they're able to express them as universal. As writers, musicians and actors they help others make sense of the human experience. But this also happens in everyday life: Water Signs soften the blunt edges of the mundane by cushioning it with emotional meaning. They covet aesthetic beauty -- and for everyone to be happy as a result of it. However, much like still water can become stagnant, inactive Water Signs are not at their best. They feel most fulfilled when they are helping others, and they usually do so in enchanting ways. Seeing things more clearly than others, and feeling them more acutely than do the natives of other Signs, they are frequently referred to as ‘psychic’. But these insights are easily clouded by the intensity of their feelings or altered by their vivid imaginations. Also on the flip side of this fluid Element is the tendency of these individuals to brood. Susceptible to mood swings, at their worst they can become self-indulgent, controlling – able to manipulate and drain the emotions of those closest to them – and hostage to a fantasy world. Artist ~ Vi Nin Vannak FIRE Spontaneous and Energetic Gregarious and Passionate Self-centered and Dramatic Instinctual and Visionary The ‘Physical’ Fire Signs have a simmering at-the-ready stance and are prone to sudden illuminating flashes of insight and bursts of enthusiasm. There is about them a warm radiance, a trust in life's journey and a willingness to take risks. Infused with an emotional energy that can spread like wildfire to everyone around them, they sense a golden thread of destiny and potential running through their own lives and are often able to lead others to their own. But, it is important for them to have cheerleaders to fan the flames of their interests. A Fire Sign is also an indicator of creativity. This Element manifests itself in unique ways, and those in its glow are usually wonderfully courageous, lively spirits: self-sufficient, spontaneous and possessing a tremendous zest for life. Strong, self-assured and fun, they're great catalysts for play and have a knack for unearthing the spontaneous side of those around them. Fire Signs act on instinct or "sixth sense," and that can make them look reckless to more cautious types. However, they're actually following a powerful intuition that keeps them at the leading edge of fresh experiences. But, although going on faith often gets them far, they have a tendency to skip crucial steps and to be unaware of the emotional impact of their actions on others. And because they are so very passionate about life and like to live large, Fire Signs often feel frustrated by mundane chores and duties. Too, Fire natives can be overly strident in getting their way. Call it bossy, even. These folks can come across rather forcefully. Selfishness and an overdeveloped ego can also be seen as part of a fiery individual's shadowy side. AIR Intellectual and Innovative Conceptual and Analytical Curious and Social Cerebral and Detached The gift of Air is flexibility and its natives’ ability to experience life through many prisms. Air Signs use their minds to make sense of their lives and for them there is more space between the life lived and the observing mind than is so with other Signs. So, to others, these individuals can appear detached, aloof, remote and cool: they’ll often attempt to talk their way through feelings – or to analyze a situation – rather than deal with the full emotional weight of the moment. Critical thinkers who handle abstract reasoning well, the ‘Intellectual’ Air Signs love to probe and synthesize. Have a dilemma? Hand it over to an Air Sign and watch them go to work. And the distance between these masters of cultural navigation and their own emotions can be refreshing. These are extremely social creatures – their curiosity keeps them ever- mingling – and their currency is their ability to link diverse social groups or individuals with their often extraordinary collections of ideas, obscure facts, gossip and knowledge. Drawn to words, many Air natives become professional storytellers, interpreters and journalists who provide the rest of us with astute commentary on the cultural trends, social attitudes and political consciousness of our times. Others of them – especially Aquarius – have a more conceptual way of thinking. Almost without exception, however, all of these alert, curious and perceptive individuals are very communicative and the world as seen by an Air Sign will be an interesting one – as their analysis and subsequent explanation (hopefully in terms we can understand) will indicate. Talking with an inspired Air Sign can be like skipping through a kind of virtual reality full of detail, specificity and local color. Moreover, the Element usually manifests itself in a most humane way: objective, cooperative, unprejudiced (and often highly idealistic), most actually do ‘want to help make a better world’. And, leading with their heads, these observers of the human scene are the ‘idea’ people who, from their loftier viewpoint, are often able to offer it a fresh perspective of its problems and an innate clarity of vision that is rare among the natives of other Signs. However, these inventive and clever individuals will insist upon considering all sides of an equation before they decide on a course of action. And, because Air Signs are especially vulnerable to the excesses of our mind-body split, balance is of paramount importance to them. So that while Air natives are usually calm and collected, they can – and frequently do – turn bitterly cold if their equilibrium is upset. A word to the wise: there's little upside to baiting an Air Sign!   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Signs of Survival: Second Chan... SuperGr0ver 05-08-15 1    RE: Signs of Survival: Second Chan... Georganna 05-09-15 2        Movers, Shakers & Makers SuperGr0ver 05-13-15 8            RE: Movers, Shakers & Makers Georganna 05-14-15 9    PS Georganna 05-11-15 3    Polls Are Closed! Votes Are Counte... Georganna 05-21-15 10        You are aweseom Georganna SuperGr0ver 05-21-15 12            RE: You are aweseom Georganna Georganna 05-22-15 14            Your Wish ... Georganna 05-22-15 15  Earth - Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo... Georganna 05-13-15 4  Water - Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces ... Georganna 05-13-15 5  Fire - Aries, Leo and Sagittarius -... Georganna 05-13-15 6  Air - Libra, Aquarius and Gemini - ... Georganna 05-13-15 7    RE: Air - Libra, Aquarius and Gemin... dabo 05-21-15 11        RE: Air - Libra, Aquarius and Gemin... Georganna 05-21-15 13            Update! Georganna 05-22-15 16  Worlds Apart Review | Welcome! Georganna 05-25-15 17  Worlds Apart Review | The Many Coll... Georganna 05-25-15 18    Worlds Apart Review | The Many Coll... Georganna 06-04-15 23  Worlds Apart Review | Escameca and ... Georganna 05-25-15 19    Worlds Apart Review | Escameca and... Georganna 06-04-15 24  Worlds Apart Review | Merica I Georganna 05-25-15 20    Worlds Apart Review | Merica I Georganna 06-04-15 25  Worlds Apart Review | Merica II Georganna 05-25-15 21    RE: Worlds Apart Review | Merica II Georganna 06-04-15 26  The Movers, Makers and Shakers | In... Georganna 05-25-15 22    The Movers, Makers and Shakers | In... Georganna 06-04-15 27

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SuperGr0ver 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 05-08-15, 04:15 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Signs of Survival: Second Chance - Gettin' Out The Vote" Great job Georganna! Makes who to vote for much easier for me. While some of my faves are Fire & Air guys, I don't really want to watch a season where most of the gals are voted off early on. Since it's likely we could have a majority Fire & Air (guys) or a majority Earth & Water (women), I myself being a woman would vote for a woman to win (as long as it's not Kass or Shirin.) So I will not vote for the Fire & Air women (except maybe one in Shirin's place) and I WILL vote for the Earth & Water guys. I do love Joe, Andrew and Jeff, and feel bad trying to stack the decks against them (why did they have to be born when they did?) but oh well. They still have that against all odds chance. And all this is assuming that our votes even matter and that the system isn't rigged. Anyway, I always love reading your insights.   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-09-15, 09:24 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Signs of Survival: Second Chance - Gettin' Out The Vote" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 02:02 AM (EST) SGO ... Thank you! I am really glad to know that someone has a voting plan. Because I certainly don't. I haven't yet cast a single vote ... Like you, I don't want to see this next Season's ladies march one by one into that good night or be relegated to supporting roles en masse. But the first major contributor to my voting block is the mediocrity of the women's field of candidates ( an assessment that Round Robin, among others, has echoed in other threads). However, I have to admit that at least part of the reason for my perception is the fact that I've never watched Teresa Cooper, Kelly Wiglesworth or Kimmi Kappenberger play the Game. Then, too, eight of the nine Second Chance candidates who played the game as members of their Season's Minority are women. And five of the eight are Earth and Water natives. But I have long argued that it is a grave mistake to use the same yardstick to measure the performances of players who appeared in Survivor with that fatal handicap in tow to those of persons who enjoyed a definite - Majority - advantage during their Season(s). So, I suppose that I really should have a bit more faith that if they (and Brad Culpepper) are fortunate enough to play the Game from within an Earth and Water Majority, that 'mediocrity' will disappear in great clouds of air-tight strategies, rock-solid alliances and well-organized, well-fed and comfortable camps boasting nightly turn-down service and massage. Note: In short (as the first of the two Tables below illustrates), in these nominees we have one (Stephen) who played the Game as 'fairly' as it can be played; nine who, as a practical matter, have yet to be given a first chance to actually become a Sole Survivor; and twenty-two (the majority of whom are Fire and Air natives) who've played Survivor from a privileged position and blown it anyway ... And the second Chart demonstrates the fact that, although there have been a total of twenty Balanced and E&W (Majority) Seasons, twenty of the thirty-two candidates for the twenty Second Chance berths played their first Game in one of the ten F&A (Majority) Games. So, even if (to paraphrase your thought) we assume that our votes matter and that the system isn't rigged (or even, for that matter, if it is rigged) and Second Chance becomes a Balanced or E&W (Majority) Season, the finished entertainment product will, I think, still have a very strong F&A 'vibe' about it. Note: Given that the Earth and Water natives are outnumbered 18 to 14 on the CBS Ballots - and may be outnumbered 19 to 13 if Spencer is a Gemini - and if the viewer vote isn't just window-dressing - it will take a minor miracle for S31 to become anything other than a Fire and Air Majority Season. And about Spencer's birthday ... There now seems to be some sort of Kass | Spencer 'inside' thing about it. Following her remark during a podcast that suggested he fibbed to his tribemates about his natal day during Cagayan's filming and his post to Twitter regarding 'turning 22' that appeared on June 11 (Gemini) - until then, I and others had June 24th (Cancer) as his birthdate - she has referred to him as 'Kancer' and he has suggested that others 'ask Kass' about the correct date. So, for that and other lengthy and convoluted reasons (he did not, for instance, directly acknowledge any of the birthday greetings that appeared on Twitter following his June 11th post), I've left his birthday as is. For now. In any event, Second Chance will film during the Gemini window - May 22nd to June 21st - so maybe the issue - and I may be the only person on the planet for whom Spencer Bledsoe's birthdate is an issue - will be put to rest this fall (if not, I hope, sooner). As for my votes ... I am one of those very strange people who would be perfectly happy with a Kass win. The Scorpio personality - although it has an abysmal Survivor performance history - fascinates me. I would also be perfectly happy with a Shane or Keith victory. But most of all, I want Stephen to be Second Chance's Sole Survivor. I just can't decide if he would have a better shot at that in a Balanced - or in a Fire and Air Majority - Season. And then there is the fact that, because I haven't yet discovered any pattern in their results that would allow me to eliminate any number of their players from F1 consideration - up front, I really, really dislike Balanced Seasons ... Final Note: Below the first two Tables I've added a third that places the Survivors in their most natural - intuitive - Roles. I thought it might afford us a very useful portrait much like the ones that I'm certain are generated - via psychological testing | personality profiling - and then utilized by the show's producers as they vet its applicants and shape its casts. And, given that Table and despite however much, or little, I may wish that it wasn't so, I think that it would not be unreasonable to suggest that whatever the impact of viewer votes, Survivor's producers may very well serve up a Balanced Season. As they did in All-Stars and in Heroes v Villains. And, in this case, in more ways than one. PLAYED in a BALANCED SEASON Stephen | Air | Aquarius PLAYED as a MINORITY NATIVE Brad | Earth | Taurus Kelly | Water | Cancer Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Sabrina | Water | Pisces Ciera | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Stephanie | Air | Aquarius Mikayla | Air | Gemini Spencer | Air | Gemini PLAYED as a MAJORITY NATIVE Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Teresa | Earth | Taurus Natalie | Earth | Taurus Jim | Earth | Virgo Monica | Water | Cancer Kass | Water | Scorpio Woo | Water | Pisces Jeff | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Jeremy | Fire | Aries Max | Fire | Aries Andrew | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo Mike | Fire | Leo Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius Terry | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Carolyn | Air | Libra Kelley | Air | Gemini PLAYED in a BALANCED SEASON Stephen | Air | Aquarius PLAYED in an E&W MAJORITY SEASON Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Teresa | Earth | Taurus Natalie | Earth | Taurus Jim | Earth | Virgo Monica | Water | Cancer Kass | Water | Scorpio Woo | Water | Pisces Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Stephanie | Air | Aquarius Mikayla | Air | Gemini Spencer | Air | Gemini PLAYED in an F&A MAJORITY SEASON Brad | Earth | Taurus Kelly | Water | Cancer Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Sabrina | Water | Pisces Ciera | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Jeff | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Jeremy | Fire | Aries Max | Fire | Aries Andrew | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo Mike | Fire | Leo Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius Terry | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Carolyn | Air | Libra Kelley | Air | Gemini SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Monica | Water | Cancer Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Kass | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo Mike | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Brad | Earth | Taurus Teresa | Earth | Taurus Natalie | Earth | Taurus Jim | Earth | Virgo Sabrina | Water | Pisces Ciera | Water | Pisces Woo | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Mikayla | Air | Gemini Kelley | Air | Gemini Spencer | Air | Gemini SOLOISTS Jeff | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Jeremy | Fire | Aries Max | Fire | Aries Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius Terry | Air | Libra Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Carolyn | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius Stephanie | Air | Aquarius Roles Keyword: Place The Sun Sign Profiles of the Superior (The Movers) Signs – Capricorn (Cardinal Earth), Cancer (Cardinal Water), Scorpio (Fixed Water) and Leo (Fixed Fire) – indicate that their natives are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in leadership positions. The Sun Sign Profiles of the Subordinate (The Makers) Signs – Taurus (Fixed Earth), Virgo (Mutable Earth), Pisces (Mutable Water) and Gemini (Mutable Air)– indicate that these personalities are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in sheltered (supportive or specialized) positions. And the Sun Sign Profiles of the Soloist (The Shakers) Signs – Aries (Cardinal Fire), Sagittarius (Mutable Fire), Libra (Cardinal Air) and Aquarius (Fixed Air) – indicate that these folks are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in autonomous (detached or semi-detached) positions. Note The Roles are my invention and are meant to be a lay addendum to the Signs’ Astrologic identities: A shorthand developed from their Sun Sign Profiles that uses familiar terms to indicate the hierarchal positions most natural (and comfortable) to their natives. G: Edited To Correct Spencer's Birthday | Sun Sign   Top

SuperGr0ver 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 05-13-15, 07:49 PM (EST) 8. "Movers, Shakers & Makers" Georganna, We should petition CBS to do a season where the tribes are broken down by astrology signs. Survivor 33:Signs of Survivors: Movers, Shakers,& Makers. That would be AWESOME!   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-14-15, 12:04 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Movers, Shakers & Makers" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 02:04 AM (EST) SGO ... That would be "Awesome"! And a great way for viewers to become invested in the Season's players. We all know our Sun Signs. In the earlier editions of the Series, representations of the Western (and in China, the Eastern) Zodiac Signs appeared fairly often and the Zodiacs even provided the foundation for a handful of Challenges. Mark Burnett is a Cancer and Jeff Probst is a Scorpio - Signs known for their natives' affinity for the 'mystic' (or, if you will, 'occult'): a stylized Scorpion appeared on some of the HIIs played during Worlds Apart. In fact, it was because of those repeated references to the Signs that (during Palau) I began to think of Survivor's casting methodology in those terms. I am convinced that the show's producers either directly employ Sun Sign Profiling in their vetting process - or - that the portraits produced by other pshychological/personality (self-assessment) profiling schemes that they may use closely mirror those generated by the Art/Science of Astrology. I can't explain the consistency of the 'Majority Wins Pattern' any other way - there is nothing subjective or arbitrary about the labels/identities affixed and catagorized via the 'test' of birthdate. So, while myriad factors contribute to the whole of each of our unique beings and several among us may consider all of Astrology's applications to be the products of superstitious hogwash, it remains that for Sun Sign Profiling purposes (and thus for the Pattern's very obvious utility), persons born, for instance, in the Gemini (Air) window are Gemini. Every time ... And because that is so, it also remains that we can accurately predict, with a degree of regularity that I would wager is equal or superior to that of Survivor's producers and casting directors, whether - barring those producers' and/or directors' seminal interference in the Game - a Gemini (or other Fire or Air native) is waaaay more or waaaay less likely than is any one of the Season's Minority or Majority (Earth and Water) natives to be its Sole Survivor. I am also convinced that there are other spoiler-worthy patterns within the Signs' Survivor histories just waiting to be discovered. However, I don't have a detail-friendly personality. So, I just keep posting Charts and hoping that someone else has an Aha! Moment. In the meantime, I've been playing with how Worlds Apart's White Collars, Blue Collars and No Collars would have looked as Movers, Shakers and Makers and will try to post snapshots of those Tribes a little later today. Preview: At F5, A - for Astrological - Merica would boast Two Movers, Two Shakers and One (Very Disgruntled) Maker. G: Edited, hopefully and more than once, for clarity ...   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-11-15, 12:29 PM (EST) 3. "PS" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 02:07 AM (EST) SGO: I do love Joe, Andrew and Jeff, and feel bad trying to stack the decks against them (why did they have to be born when they did?) Now that I'm truly trying to put together my own voting strategy/wish list/prediction for Second Chance, I'm beginning to see exactly what you meant! But then, if some of our favorites were natives of different Elements or Signs, their core personality traits and behaviors would also be different and perhaps they would no longer be our favorites at all. Theoretically, of course ... In the meantime, given that chronic, persistent procrastination - and tangential curiosity - are core Sagittarius responses to the chore of decision-making, in order to see how each of the 'Casts' represented would look (and, to a degree, function), I've 'Tabled' your voting strategy and the choices posted to CTgirl's Survivor31/32 location and news thread by Michel, Jims and Outsider. Fun! SGO’s PICKS – E&W MAJORITY SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Monica | Water | Cancer Kass | Water | Scorpio Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Brad | Earth | Taurus Teresa | Earth | Taurus Natalie | Earth | Taurus Jim | Earth | Virgo Sabrina | Water | Pisces Ciera | Water | Pisces Woo | Water | Pisces Spencer | Air | Gemini SOLOISTS Jeff | Fire | Aries **Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Joe | Air | Libra … PLUS THREE of the FOLLOWING … SUPERIORS Keith | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo Mike | Fire | Leo SOLOISTS Jeremy | Fire | Aries Max | Fire | Aries Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius Terry | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius ** Complimentary Substitute for Shirin ... MICHEL’s PICKS – BALANCED SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Monica | Water | Cancer Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Natalie | Earth | Taurus Teresa | Earth | Taurus Jim | Earth | Virgo Ciera | Water | Pisces Sabrina | Water | Pisces Kelley | Air | Gemini SOLOISTS Jeff | Fire | Aries Jeremy | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius Joe | Air | Libra Terry | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius JIMS’ PICKS – F&A MAJORITY SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Kass | Water | Scorpio Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo Mike | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Natalie | Earth | Taurus Ciera | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Spencer | Air | Gemini **Teresa | Earth | Taurus or **Sabrina | Water | Pisces SOLOISTS Jeremy | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Carolyn | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Terry | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius **Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius ** Substitute for Carolyn or Mike OUTSIDER’s PICKS – BALANCED or F&A MAJORITY SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Kass | Water | Scorpio Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo Mike | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Natalie | Earth | Taurus Ciera | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Woo | Water | Pisces Kelley | Air | Gemini Spencer | Air | Gemini **Teresa | Earth | Taurus SOLOISTS Jeremy | Fire | Aries Max | Fire | Aries Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Carolyn | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius **Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius ** Substitute for Carolyn or Mike EDITED ON MAY 12TH TO ADD G's PICKS - F&A MAJORITY SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Kass | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo Troyzan | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Brad | Earth | Taurus Teresa | Earth | Taurus Jim | Earth | Virgo Sabrina | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Kelley | Air | Gemini SOLOISTS Jeff | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Shane | Fire | Sagittarius Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Terry | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius G: Edited To Correct Spencer's Birthday | Sun Sign   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-21-15, 01:47 AM (EST) 10. "Polls Are Closed! Votes Are Counted!" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 02:09 AM (EST) And ... Survivor: Cambodia - Second Chances will have a 60% - 40% Fire and Air Majority. And ... That means that it is extremely improbable - practically impossible - that any one of the following Minority players will be its Sole Survivor: THE EARTH and WATER NATIVES Tasha | Capricorn Kelly | Cancer Monica | Cancer Kass | Scorpio Kimmi | Scorpio Ciera | Pisces Shirin | Pisces Woo | Pisces And ... Here's a look at the S31 Cast by Role. SUPERIORS Tasha | Earth | Capricorn Kelly | Water | Cancer Monica | Water | Cancer Kimmi | Water | Scorpio Kass | Water | Scorpio Andrew | Fire | Leo Keith | Fire | Leo SUBORDINATES Ciera | Water | Pisces Woo | Water | Pisces Shirin | Water | Pisces Kelley | Air | Gemini Spencer | Air | Gemini SOLOISTS Jeff | Fire | Aries Peih-Gee | Fire | Aries Jeremy | Fire | Aries Vytas | Fire | Sagittarius Terry | Air | Libra Abi-Maria | Air | Libra Joe | Air | Libra Stephen | Air | Aquarius About The Roles Keyword: Place The Sun Sign Profiles of the Superior (The Movers) Signs – Capricorn (Cardinal Earth), Cancer (Cardinal Water), Scorpio (Fixed Water) and Leo (Fixed Fire) – indicate that their natives are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in leadership positions. The Sun Sign Profiles of the Subordinate (The Makers) Signs – Taurus (Fixed Earth), Virgo (Mutable Earth), Pisces (Mutable Water) and Gemini (Mutable Air)– indicate that these personalities are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in sheltered (supportive or specialized) positions. And the Sun Sign Profiles of the Soloist (The Shakers) Signs – Aries (Cardinal Fire), Sagittarius (Mutable Fire), Libra (Cardinal Air) and Aquarius (Fixed Air) – indicate that these folks are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in autonomous (detached or semi-detached) positions. Note The Roles are my invention and are meant to be a lay addendum to the Signs’ Astrologic identities: A shorthand developed from their Sun Sign Profiles that uses familiar terms to indicate the hierarchal positions most natural (and comfortable) to their natives. Soon I intend to wrap this thread up with a review of Worlds Apart and the promised peek at what its Tribes would have looked like - and played like - as SGO's Mover, Shaker and Maker Season. Before we move on to the Signs of Survival Thread and the Tribes of Cambodia - Second Chances G: Edited To Correct Spencer's Birthday | Sun Sign   Top

SuperGr0ver 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 05-21-15, 12:48 PM (EST) 12. "You are aweseom Georganna" Last night after a long day at work, I watched the finale and then went to bed. First thing this morning I looked for your update on the signs of Season 31. (Took me a bit to find it in the middle of the posts) Thank you for all you do. I have to say, the only one I wish wasn't on the "practically impossible" to win list is Spencer. So I'm hoping he's really a Gemini and thus eligible to win. Thanks for all you do! Your lists and info are very insightful. I look forward to seeing the Movers, Shakers, and Makers rundown.   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-22-15, 03:50 AM (EST) 14. "RE: You are aweseom Georganna" LAST EDITED ON 05-26-15 AT 12:26 PM (EST) Thank you, SGO ... And I have to say that last night and today I've felt just the tiniest bit "awesome". Because for the first time in almost eleven years I absolutely nailed an Episode (thanks in large part to Sheldor's Order). And a Season Finale to boot! But I don't know that I want to be that close to being 'right' ever again. I was so sweating those Final Jury Votes. Too, although I was convinced that the Vidcap evidence did put her out at F5, I was so sorry to see Sierra (a fellow Sagittarius and your Mom's neighbor) go then. Although as a general rule I enjoy watching Libra play the Game, I wasn't at all fond of Carolyn this Season and I certainly would have preferred to see the younger woman in the Final Three. But, back to this cozy little corner of the spoiling universe (where I'll get to that review of World's Apart and to The Movers, Shakers and Makers during the weekend: I have a day with my father tomorrow). As for Spencer ... I really don't know what to think of him. On the one hand, he exhibits those tendencies to withdrawal | reclusion, to a strong attachment to hearth, home and comfort and to empathetic observation that are characteristic of Cancer. On the other, he exhibits those tendencies to keen intellect and engaging wit, to an aversion to the slightest of hardships and to unattractive behavior when challenged that are so characteristic of Gemini. So I'm stumped. But, if he is a Cancer, I think that I'd like to see a partnership between Spencer and Stephen. JT is a Cancer. And just as that partnership proved that Stephen needs someone to front the social game for him, Spencer's Cagayan performance proved that he certainly requires the services of a top-notch strategist. But, if it turns out that Spencer is a Gemini, I don't think that a parnership between the two Air Signs - Gemini and Aquarius - will work well within the Game. And I do think that Second Chances is going to be about partnerships as opposed to large and cumbersome alliances. And, assuming that Spencer is a Gemini and barring an alliance between the two, I do think that both would (oddly enough) work well with the two Libra - Spencer with Terry and Stephen with Joe. Until Final Four ... As for the rest of the list ... I'll confess a great deal of sympathy for Kelly, Kimmi, Ciera and Shirin. Each of these women are now playing their second Season as a Minority native with virtually no chance to win the Game. One more thing ... In an earlier response to dabo (below) I mentioned that I thought it was possible that the show's producers might initially configure the Second Chances' Tribes as they did Exile Islands'. For instance: KOH TUICH Tasha |Capricorn|Superior Monica | Cancer|Superior Kimmi |Scorpio|Superior Ciera |Pisces|Subordinate Abi-Maria |Libra|Soloist DOEUM D'KEUW Kelly |Cancer|Superior Kass |Scorpio|Superior Shirin |Pisces|Subordinate Kelley |Gemini|Subordinate Peih-Gee |Aries|Soloist PREK SVAY Andrew |Leo|Superior Spencer |Gemini|Subordinate Jeremy |Aries|Soloist Jeff |Aries|Soloist Joe |Libra|Soloist SOK SAN Keith |Leo|Superior Woo |Pisces|Subordinate Vytas |Sagittarius|Soloist Terry |Libra|Soloist Stephen |Aquarius|Soloist What do you think? G: Edited To Correct Spencer's Birthday | Sun Sign About This Tribal Scheme A. No two Survivors have previously played the Game together. B. Affords a bit more protection for the more vulnerable players in the beginning stages of the Game than does a Two-Tribe scheme. C. Each Tribe includes one or two younger players. D. Incorporates the names of the four villages of Koh Rong Island ...   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-22-15, 11:35 AM (EST) 15. "Your Wish ... " LAST EDITED ON 05-25-15 AT 11:04 AM (EST) According to Spencer's S31 Interview with RHAP - brought to my attention by FP - his birthday is June 12th. And that makes him, most decidedly, a Gemini! And off the infamous 'practically impossible' list ... So, hoping that Spencer is not fibbing (as he did, reportedly, during Cagayan's filming) about the date - again - I've changed all of the posted Charts that I still can change (but I haven't altered any of the original text in my posts) to reflect his Air nativity. And for me, for now, the matter is closed. Hallelujah! G   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-13-15, 03:43 AM (EST) 4. "Earth - Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo - Profiles" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 11:37 AM (EST) THE CAPRICORN PROFILE Positive Traits Practical and Prudent Ambitious and Disciplined Self-Reliant and Persevering Resourceful and Creative Negative Traits Pessimistic and Melancholy Materialistic and Stern Conventional and Rigid Demanding and Cold Capricorn is one of the most stable and serious of the Zodiac types and these rocklike characters have many sterling qualities. They are normally confident, strong-willed and calm. Born with a sense of purpose and an intense drive for achievement and excellence that never lets up, they are the major finishers of most projects begun by the 'pioneering' Signs. Capricorn exude a sense of being in charge. And they usually are. But, even in their pursuit of status and power, they rarely compromise their integrity to get there. These are the masters of the physical realm and are widely admired for what they’re able to accomplish. However, while Capricorn have a great respect for authority, they may not be willing to listen to the opinions and suggestions of others. And as the ranking authority figure in a given situation they expect their underlings to be as self- disciplined as they themselves are and to perform every task undertaken to the highest standard. They are often humorless. And a fortress of defenses can keep the curious and insincere at bay in their lives. So that while to the world at large Capricorn often covey an image that is both intriguing and intimidating, those that pass the test of loyalty are allowed to see a more vulnerable side: at heart, these natives are interested in enduring ties and because they have a tendency to pessimism and melancholy that many of them are unable to keep to themselves – especially if they fail personally – Capricorn often look to family and longtime friends for emotional support. And mood swings are not the only reason Capricorn deserve the adjective based on their name - capricious. They can be surprisingly and suddenly witty and subtle for the quiet, reserved individuals that they seem to be. But they also have a tendency to ruin things by unexpected and utterly irresponsible bouts of flippancy: their penchant for melancholy creates a unique filter for Capricorn humor that is known to veer toward the darkly absurd. Reference: Natalie of Micronesia and Corinne of Gabon Additionally, Capricorn are very status-minded. Even if their immediate finances don't permit an extravagant lifestyle, the January-born can unconsciously adopt the mores, attitudes and mannerisms of the elite. The trappings of success are important to these natives not only for personal pleasure but also for the impression that they can make on others. Romantically: Capricorn usually thrive as one half of a power couple. Their ideal partners are individuals who they can respect but who also allow them to take charge most of the time. Once happily settled, they’ll go about the business of building both an empire and a cozy home life. THE TAURUS PROFILE Positive Traits Patient and Loyal Warmhearted and Loving Persistent and Determined Rooted and Sensuous Negative Traits Jealous and Possessive Resentful and Inflexible Self-indulgent and Greedy Slow and Brooding This Sign’s characteristics are solidity, practicality, extreme determination and strength of will - no one will ever drive Taurus, but they will willingly and loyally follow a leader they trust. They are stable, balanced, conservative and law-abiding citizens and lovers of peace (possessing all the best qualities of the bourgeoisie). They will do everything in their power to maintain the security of the status quo. So, on rare occasions a Taurus may be an obstinately and exasperatingly self-righteous, unoriginal, rigid, ultraconservative, argumentative and querulous boor: stuck in a self-centered rut. And, whether their characters are positive or negative, they need someone to stroke their egos with a frequent, "Well Done!" Luckily, Taurus has a knack for attracting praise. It is amazing how people will bend over backwards to please them. They are faithful and generous friends with a great capacity for affection. But Taurus rarely establish intimacies outside their social rank (to which they are ordinarily excessively loyal). And in the main, they are gentle, even-tempered, good-natured, modest and slow to anger. If they are provoked, however, they can explode into violent, uncontrolled outbursts. Lurking within every serene Taurus is the potential for a seething rage that re-establishes a sense of order by force. Equally unexpected are their occasional sallies into humor and exhibitions of fun. Those with the Sun in Taurus can be the most down-to-Earth of the Signs, so naturally they revel in earthly pleasures. Taurus has a strong aesthetic taste. And allied to his appreciation of all things beautiful is a love for the good things of life: pleasure, comfort, luxury and good food and wine. Their sensuality is legendary, whether they’re cooking up a sumptuous feast or turning on their tantalizingly slow charm. More firmly rooted in the physical world than the other Signs, Sun in Taurus can be as immovable as a mountain: it’s hard to get a Taurus to rush into anything and that can be frustrating to everyone else. But once they make a decision, it’s usually a sound one. And that same stubborn deliberateness keeps Taurus fixed on a goal long after others have given up. Moreover, these natives don’t like to be pushed around by what they consider flights of fancy. Changes in their surroundings or routines disturb their equilibrium. And if the change is too abrupt or fundamental to his comfort, the shock may be too much for the Bull. He may actually become physically ill. Taurus are known as the “builders” of the Zodiac and in their work they are industrious and ambitious: unafraid of getting their hands dirty and at their best in routine positions of trust and responsibility where there is little need of urgency, little risk of change and a pension at the end. Yet they are creative and are also often founders of enterprises where the fruits are of their own labors. Romantically Speaking: Taurus are motivated by a desire for material and emotional security and when they’ve found a suitable partner they’ll stay put where they are and carefully cultivate a stable, deeply rooted life. Respect them and allow them to take their sweet time doing things, and all will be well. On the down side, their reluctance to discard the familiar can sometimes cause Taurus to linger in a relationship that they’ve outgrown. THE VIRGO PROFILE Positive Traits Caring and Loyal Meticulous and Discriminating Practical and Organized Clever and Analytical Negative Traits Fussy and a Worrier Overcritical and Harsh Perfectionist and Conservative Negative and Unsocial Those with Sun in Virgo are constantly on the move, always trying to fine-tune their lives and relationships. They are filled with nervous energy and a desire to make improvements, so they're serene only when they are fulfilling their meticulously planned steps toward a carefully chosen goal. Virgo is the only Sun Sign represented by a female and it is sometimes thought of as a delicate young girl and sometimes as an intelligent, but rather pedantic and spinsterish, older woman. The latter impression is sometimes confirmed by the Virgo’s precision, refinement, fastidiousness, conventionality and aristocratic attitude of reserve. They are usually observant, shrewd, critically inclined, judicious, patient and practical. Both sexes have considerable charm and dignity and in their unassuming, cheerful and agreeable fashion, they can be sensible, discreet, well-spoken, wise and witty. But while in many respects Virgo are the epitome of social grace and propriety, their sterling etiquette is more apt to be scripted than spontaneous: the result of careful thought and hours of mental practice. Intellectually, Virgo is enquiring, methodical and logical, studious and teachable. They combine mental ingenuity with the ability to produce a clear analysis of the most complicated problems. Thoroughness, hard work and conscientiousness are their hallmarks. They have an excellent eye for detail but they may be so meticulous that they neglect larger issues. And, because of their ability to see every angle of a multi-faceted problem, they are as unhappy with abstract theories as they are with intractable philosophies: placing no confidence in either. Moreover, for as much as his intellect aids analysis, it also abets the Virgo’s compulsion to criticize. Nothing escapes these perfectionists’ eyes. And in their scrutiny of incongruities, these natives leave no stone … nor anyone … unexamined: as critical, and unforgiving, of themselves as they are of others. So that they may bring the art of self-concealment to a high pitch (hiding their apprehensions about themselves and their often considerable sympathy with other people under the mantle of an undemonstrative clinician) with the result that they shrink from committing themselves to friendship, make few relationships, and are careful to keep those they do make superficial. Virgos often feel compelled to serve others and can find respect in fields where attention to detail and a responsible attitude are rewarded. They are natural healers and are gifted at bringing an unhealthy situation back into balance. But they have to watch out for those who would take advantage of their natures and put them in subservient roles. Finding the courage to place the highest value on what they offer can take a lifetime for some Virgos. So, given their qualities, Virgo are much more effective in subordinate rather than leadership positions. Responsibility irks them and they often lack the breadth of strategic vision that leadership requires. They are essentially tacticians and excel at the attainment of limited objectives: needing the stimuli of immediacy and prestige attendant to specialization. Romantically Speaking: The self-contained nature of the Virgo (Virgin) Sun sometimes makes them all the more alluring: someone who will always be whole and complete unto themselves. And this can make them seem unattainable. Once in a relationship, the Sun in Virgo finds comfort in the routines of daily life. A Virgo who has established a wholesome daily routine is far easier to live with than one that hasn't. And known as loners – there is a physical sensitivity associated with Virgo that could be called high maintenance – they will need plenty of “me” time to maintain their sense of self. But, when they’ve found a worthy mate, they revel in the patterns and habits of togetherness and can begin to relax into the beauty of the familiar. Art by Karen Mackenzie   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-13-15, 03:48 AM (EST) 5. "Water - Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces - Profiles" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 11:27 AM (EST) THE CANCER PROFILE Positive Traits Nurturing and Sensuous Intuitive and Imaginative Shrewd and Tenacious Sensitive and Empathetic Negative Traits Changeable and Moody Self-Absorbed and Clinging Subjective and Clannish Neurotic and Needy Cancer’s emotions are as changeable as the Moon itself and their nature makes them something of an enigma, even to those closest to them. In fact, the Cancer temperament is a veritable kaleidoscope of waxing and waning feelings and during the course of a conversation, you may notice – passing fleetingly across the faces of July-born – scores of distinctively different emotions: no one ever repeated or expressed in exactly the same way. Quite simply, Cancer exude drama and these extraordinarily emotional individuals can sink into a mood and fully inhabit it, so that it seems to permeate the atmosphere around them. No other Sign has so pervasive an emotional aura as to either lift your spirits to ecstatic heights or to fill you with clouds of gloom, depending upon his mood. Moreover, the Cancer imagination is so vivid that it’s like they’re watching home movies inside their heads. For them, every life experience can be replayed again and again and the same internal landscape revisited. This is the raw material for both creative genius and the tendency to get stuck in emotional eddies. These natives love to dream of far-away places and times past and will talk about historical events as if they were actually there. Most Cancer have a special reverence for the past, and if you ask them to tell you whom of all people they admire most, they'll most often rattle off the names of several prominent historical figures. The idiom “home is where the heart is” has no greater ring of truth than when describing how the Cancer feels about his abode. Home is where he dreams, lives, plays and loves. And it is the only place he feels secure. But, because they're psychic sponges, they need plenty of space to unravel the little dramas of the day, or they’ll get cranky. And Cancer has a tender heart. But you might not see it at first behind the cool exterior. However, once you’re allowed inside the circle of trust, you’ll start to know why they’re called the “Mother” of the Zodiac. Cancer is never truly happy unless they have someone or something to care for and their innate understanding of human emotion allows them to see through the pretenses of other Signs and lend encouragement, support or sympathy when needed. Both men and women of this Sign have an instinctive nurturing side that endears them to those they love and it is amazing to discover how many July-born have acquired the appendage – ‘good ol'– to their names. The Crab’s claws hold tight, though, and often they have trouble letting go of relationships and situations. But there is a private, reclusive side to every Cancer. Because of their extreme emotional sensitivity, they fear ridicule and would rather retreat than defend themselves. And there is always lurking in the background of their personalities a foreboding of disaster. As if upon some hidden cue, the Crab can suddenly retreat into the watery burrows of his inner consciousness and not be seen for days. Try and question him about his absence and he'll probably not know what you're talking about. However, if Cancer can reconcile the personal conflict of their urge to be outgoing with the reserve that causes them to withdraw into themselves, then at best they can inspire a generation, especially the youthful part of it, by their idealism. They also have a penchant for trade or business and are often successful as a captain of industry. This is because they are excellent organizers with a good sense of value and economy that they may combine with a flair for invention and originality. Take Note: The stealth approach of Cancer often takes people by surprise, and many have been underestimated. They’ll protect their sensitivity by going after what they want indirectly, which can be seen as passive. But try to take advantage of their gentle nature, and you’ll soon be put in your place. Once crossed, the Cancer holds a grudge to infinity, so it’s hard to win back their trust. Romantically Speaking: Above all, the Cancer needs a sense of belonging and an intimate home life. Once committed, they’ll prove to be the ultimate family man or woman, and likely never stray too far from the nest. THE SCORPIO PROFILE Positive Traits Determined and Forceful Intense and Intuitive Formidable and Passionate Exciting and Magnetic Negative Traits Jealous and Vengeful Compulsive and Obsessive Secretive and Cunning Manipulative and Obstinate Scorpio are the most profound and powerful characters in the Zodiac. There is a harnessed aggression, an immense forcefulness, magnetic attraction and often strangely hypnotic quality in their tranquil, but watchful, composure that can be intimidating. An outer mask of cool control belies a vast and often turbulent psychic interior. In a word, the Scorpio is intense, and works best in a crucible of pressure and uphill challenges. Without a sense of purpose, the darker emotions can take hold and lead them down the paths of obsession, jealousy and worse. In conventional social gatherings they are pleasant to be with, thoughtful in conversation, dignified, and reserved, yet affable and courteous. And in their everyday behavior they give the appearance of being withdrawn from the center of activity. Yet those who know them will recognize the ever-probing, ever-evaluating observation that is an integral component of their character. They intuitively take in everything around them and reveal very little in return. And don’t expect instant friendship here, as it takes time to win the trust of the wary Scorpio. Scorpio are deeply sensitive and easily moved by their emotions. And that sensitivity, together with a propensity for extreme likes and dislikes, make them easily hurt: quick to detect or imagine insult or injury to themselves and easily aroused to ferocious anger. And because they relate to their fellows only as leaders, they can be blunt to those they dislike to the point of cruelty. The Sun in Scorpio have a powerful drive to succeed and often have extracurricular activities that take it up a notch. They’re great competitors because of their built-in radar for the weaknesses of the opponent. They’ll remain calm until the exact moment when a targeted attack will do the most damage. That’s why in relationships of any kind they are a formidable enemy if betrayed. Fortunate that their strong reasoning powers are tempered with imagination and intuition and that these gifts are usually accompanied by critical perception and analytical capacity, Scorpio often find fulfillment in the ice-cold self-control and detachment of the surgeon or soldier and the concentration of the research scientist. And any profession in which investigation and analysis are relevant may attract these charismatic "twice-born" characters. They may also become masters of the written and spoken word. This Sun Sign includes among its natives more geniuses than does any other. At the other extreme is the procrastinator: the man or woman who is capable of so much that they do nothing and become indolent and self-indulgent: requiring extravagant praise and flattery from those whom they make their cronies. Romantically Speaking: Those in a relationship with a Scorpio need to be strong-willed in order to keep from being controlled by their undertow. And never try to hide anything from them because they’ll quickly “read” it on your face. Moreover, Scorpio have earned a reputation for being highly sexual and need an amorous outlet for all that emotional intensity. However, to those few allowed into their private worlds they are fiercely loyal and their enveloping sensuality usually makes all the drama worth it. THE PISCES PROFILE Positive Traits Romantic and Sensitive Compassionate and Idealistic Imaginative and Naïve Intuitive and Creative Negative Traits Escapist and Self-Indulgent Secretive and Vague Weak-willed and Gullible Impressionable and Overwhelmed Pisceans are deservedly popular with all kinds of people in part because their easygoing, affectionate, malleable and submissive natures offer no threat or challenge to stronger and more exuberant characters. But they will not be able to maintain for very long friendships or associations with those who are too materialistic. As the last of the twelve Zodiac Signs, Pisces is said to contain aspects of them all. This makes the Pisces Sun so changeable as to appear not to have one singular identity. It's as if they merely touch down in this human reality and remain only long enough to try on a few personas. Consequently, those with the Sun in Pisces can seem to be "somewhere else" half the time. And because their natures are often too otherworldly for practical purposes – they tend to exist emotionally rather than rationally and instinctively rather than intellectually – the nine-to-five life is not easy for them. So it is important for these individuals to find a sense of purpose in order to avoid just drifting: their sensitivity makes them more vulnerable to escapism through addictions or personal dramas than are other Signs. The challenge to Pisces natives, then, is to somehow integrate their affinity with the more subtle planes into constructive working relationships. Fortunately, Pisceans are usually versatile and intuitive; quickly master new skills; observe and listen well; and are receptive to new ideas and atmospheres. And all these factors can combine to produce remarkable creativity in literature, music and art. This is the sign of the mystic poet, and a creative pursuit gives Pisces the motivation to be disciplined. And bringing structure to the vast imagination and shades of emotion flowing within the Pisces nature is a great achievement. Similarly, in medicine and social work, Pisceans find an outlet for their empathy and mercy while their professional statures curb the likelihood of their being taken advantage of. And, if they're typical March-born, they are not elitists: saint, sinner, murderer, thief, liar, rich or poor - deserving or undeserving - the Piscean instinctively recognizes the worth of the individual and can overlook the apparent causes of their circumstances. But the fact that the Pisces Sun leads with a compassionate heart can be both a blessing and a curse. Many are remarkably wise and self-sacrificing when it comes to helping the vulnerable or those down on their luck. But this noble trait can take them down a path of being used and abused before they learn to set strong boundaries and they are better working either by themselves or in subordinate positions. Most would be afraid to manage more than a small department, worrying always that they would fail in a crisis. Romantically speaking: Pisces fare well with a guiding-hand type who understands the fluidity of their nature. And life with a Pisces means having a bridge to unseen worlds of the heart and imagination. Awesome! Art by Karen Mackenzie   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-13-15, 03:51 AM (EST) 6. "Fire - Aries, Leo and Sagittarius - Profiles" LAST EDITED ON 05-13-15 AT 04:09 AM (EST) THE ARIES PROFILE Positive Traits Adventurous and Confident Pioneering and Courageous Enthusiastic and Straight-Forward Dynamic and Quick-witted Negative Traits Selfish and Dominating Impulsive and Insensitive Foolhardy and Quick-Tempered Willful and Ruthless Adventurous, ambitious, impulsive, enthusiastic and full of energy, Aries is a trailblazer: open to new ideas and a lover of freedom. These individuals welcome opposition and will not be diverted from their purposes except by their own impatience or boredom. Gifted with a direct, fiery nature that puts them one step ahead of the crowd, the childlike enthusiasm of these entrepreneurs and revolutionaries is infectious, and their ability to rouse others' interest in a project or cause is unparalleled. They’ll often take charge of a situation and their sense of certainty usually makes others fall in line. But the Mars-ruled are initiators -- not perpetuators. Often larger-than-life, they can light up a room with their charisma: they’re among the ones with the stamina to party ‘til dawn. But if a gathering, project or relationship begins to be dull they’ll quickly move on. The Sun in Aries craves excitement and their restless spirits are in constant pursuit of the next ‘big thing’. Because their approach to life is somewhat simplistic, what Aries can accomplish without a lot of distracting nuances and complexities to slow him down is staggering. Don't, however, put them in a position where they'll have to deal with complicated emotions or with a problem requiring delicate handling or subtlety. They're simply not equipped for it. And, much concerned with personal advancement and physical satisfaction (self-reliant but also self-centered), Aries do not work well under authority unless they, too, have subordinates. In fact, they may be too self-sufficient and proud to acknowledge they have a boss and often take matters into their own hands (disregarding authority absolutely). Ask an Aries how many times he's been fired, and he'll probably tell you more than once. And that is probably because, most of all, Aries – propelled by an inner drive that is a force to be reckoned with – wants to achieve great things and at times their rush to accomplish them can cause them to take unnecessary risks or to forge ahead without planning out crucial details. Some say the Sun in Aries learns the hard way: by leaping before looking. But, being an active Sign, the Aries does learn best through experience. In personal relationships Aries are frank, direct and candid: gregarious and generous friends. However, their immense energy can also make them aggressive and restless, argumentative, headstrong, quick-tempered and easily offended: of all the Zodiac’s natives, an Aries will most readily haul off and punch a nose. And while an Aries is not the least bit calculating (in most instances, he'll simply tell it like it is before he's had a chance to think about the consequences), he does crave admiration and praise. So that while he won’t usually lie (in contradiction of his straightforward nature), he'll often exaggerate the truth in his own favor or simply in order to stamp it with his individuality. Intellectually, Aries are quick-witted, usually objective, and inspirationally optimistic: irreplaceable champions of lost causes and last-ditch stands. But they can also become extremists: foolhardy and dogmatic zealots whose enormous talents and vibrant personalities become a hindrance (if not a threat) to the welfare of the society in which they move. Romantically Speaking: Aries is the Sign of the Warrior and sometimes they go too far and wound those they love with hurtful words spoken in the heat of an argument. They quickly forgive and forget, but they often have to deal with the fallout of their brusque demeanor. Moreover, these natives have minds that filter out the non-essentials and it is their clear sight that helps them make such rapid progress in life: so, once fixed on a goal, they’ll move forward with a single-minded determination that threatens to leave those close to them in the dust. But if you’re a match for such an amped-up spirit, you’ll never forget being pulled along by the power of this dynamic personality. THE LEO PROFILE Positive Traits Generous and Affectionate Exuberant and Colorful Broadminded and Theatrical Proud and Vivacious Negative Traits Pompous and Patronizing Overbearing and Provocative Dogmatic and Intolerant Selfish and Egotistical At first, it’s hard not to like those with the Sun in Leo with their open hearted, friendly ways. They often enter a room as a radiant presence that causes everyone to take notice, and are skilled at “working” a crowd for best effect. As a friend, they have a gift for mining your buried dream, polishing it to a shine again, and making anything seem possible. And there is a public confidence with the Leo Sun that affords them free reign to fully express their creative and social selves. Whether they end up in civil service or on a Broadway stage, chances are they’ll have an audience. When standing proudly before adoring fans (or co-workers), they project a warmth that has a palpable power to win hearts and minds. It is a Leo’s birthright to lead, and they'll naturally assume that role without being asked. However, if that authority is questioned, they may abandon a project entirely. Outgoing, spontaneously warm-hearted and plain-spoken (but poor judges of character), Leo are more disillusioned than the average if let down by those they trust. And, since Leo simply can't function if they're not in a position to lead, they'll brood until that status has been reinstated. However, even after they discover that they've been duped or abandoned, most Leos are too big about it – or too proud – to retaliate. Because they are usually incapable of actions that are in any way mean, base or underhanded, they have difficulty in recognizing those traits in others. In activities where these lower qualities are essential for success, the majority of Leo tend not to succeed. And because they see a project in its grandest perspective, Leo natives have a disdain for details: their chief attribute in any group situation is the unique capacity for the overall manipulation of resources to produce a desired result. So it is not surprising that more wealth is found under Leo than under any other Sun Sign. On the whole they are powers for good, for they are strongly idealistic, humane, and beneficent. They have a powerful intelligence and are of a broad philosophical, sometimes religious, turn of mind. Those who are devout may be very obstinate in upholding traditional beliefs and will cling tenaciously, but with complete sincerity, to practices and doctrines that liberal thinkers regard as absurdly out-of-date. However, a Leo’s faults can be as large in scale as are his virtues and an excessively negative Leo can be a very unpleasant human being. These Leos will not hesitate to use cunning, lies and trickery to discredit their adversaries. Narcissism, greed for flattery, bombast, pomposity and snobbish superiority can also be characteristic of Leo. Romantically Speaking; The Sun in Leo has a hard time with the mundane, and will be drawn to colorful careers and dramatic relationships. While some people shrink at the idea of dating around, the Leo considers romance a grand game. And it’s not unusual for these natives to play more than one game at a time. Too, after getting to know a Leo, you’ll discover that they’re very loyal: to themselves. You can come up against severe resistance if you try to bend the will of a Leo for the sake of a relationship. Their reputation for being ‘diva-difficult’ is well-earned. But, because so many of them grab the gusto and achieve their lofty goals, in the end their stubborn self-regard usually elicits widespread respect. THE SAGITTARIUS PROFILE Positive Traits Optimistic and Freedom-loving Curious and Sporting Good-humored and Straightforward Expansive and Philosophical Negative Traits Blindly-optimistic and Careless Irresponsible and Superficial Flippant and Promiscuous Tactless and Restless Sagittarius have a positive outlook on life and are full of enterprise, energy, versatility and adventure: eager to extend experience beyond the physically familiar. They delight in travel and exploration: Sagittarius are genuinely intrigued by foreign cultures and even when their finances preclude traipsing the globe Sagittarius travel in their minds. And their bright, cheerful demeanors can be disarming. It’s an uncomplicated style that invites you to drop your defenses, too, and just “be.” This makes for a fun friend who knows all the best ethnic restaurants and will be more than happy to stay out ‘til the wee hours. Ambitious and optimistic (even when their hopes are dashed), their strongly idealistic natures are able to withstand disappointments without being affected. They are usually honorable, honest, trustworthy, truthful, generous and sincere (with a passion for justice). They are characteristically on the side of the underdog and are prepared to be rebellious. Non-conformists, Sagittarius hate being bound to rigid social confines or pigeonholed into strict routines that don't give them plenty of breathing room. Even more than physical restrictions, they'll loathe mental confinement. Sagittarius have both profound and broad minds: equipped with foresight, good judgment and keen intuition. As a result, they are often fascinating conversationalists and correspondents. Think Mark Twain. Think Sagittarius. Known, too, for their spontaneous philosophical ramblings, these natives don’t seem to get bogged down in emotional complexities. So those who love them may wish for more depth: more feeling. And there are times when they are shockingly blunt. It’s unnerving to be the target of a direct hit.. But that same tactless personality can be a beacon of light in confusing times. Leave it to a Sagittarius to step into a messy tangle and sum up the situation with blinding clarity. They’ll be willing to speak the truth when all others hide in confusion. This makes them invaluable friends who can guide you back to a clear path when you need honesty rather than enabling. And in a curious twist of fate, Sagittarius, who are often accused of clumsiness, are also credited with extraordinary grace and coordination when engaged in purposeful physical activity: most particularly sports and dance. In everyday activities, however, the Sagittarian can be surprisingly less dignified. Though the December-born athlete may break the record for high jump, he'll stumble over his shoelaces walking onto the field. Sagittarius are much more adept at adapting than inventing and are at their best when working with colleagues whose talents compliment, rather than compete with, their own. But Sagittarius can sometimes be exacting, domineering and inconsiderate in the work place: scorning the inadequacies of others while expecting fulsome recognition of their own skills and effort. Moreover, they can be (and frequently are) impulsively angry. And, when angry, both male and female Sagittarians can be vicious: employing with precision those words or actions that will most severely wound their adversary. On the other hand, they are magnanimous in forgiving offenses and quick to make amends for their own intemperance. Romantically Speaking: The same notable physicality that attracts Sagittarius to vigorous athletics and bold travel-adventures often extends to their intimate relationships and their flexible, lusty, anything-goes attitude can cause them to take a walk on the wild side. So, the ideal partner for them is above all a friend and a partner in life’s great adventure who understands the needs of a true free spirit. However, more apt then the average to make an uncongenial alliance, their innate restlessness (which, if excessive, often jeopardizes more than their own stability) will often compel them to use even the most satisfying ménage as a base from which to … depart. Art by Karen Mackenzie   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-13-15, 03:56 AM (EST) 7. "Air - Libra, Aquarius and Gemini - Profiles" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 11:29 AM (EST) THE LIBRA PROFILE Positive Traits Diplomatic and Urbane Romantic and Charming Easy-going and Sociable Idealistic and Fair-minded Negative Traits Indecisive and Changeable Gullible and Easily-influenced Flirtatious and Self-indulgent Passive and Co-dependent Ruled by the planet Venus, Libra are the very personification of refinement and affection, endearing you with their genteel manner and melting your heart with their ingratiating smiles. Those with the Sun in Libra have an easy grace and charm that is truly enviable. Many have soothing voices that are easy on the ears. And they love to talk. They’re at their very best when their gift for communication is put to a high-minded purpose, and, noted for their ability to harmonize conflicted situations – the Libra personality attracts the revelations, confidences, gossip and trust of others like a magnet – they thrive in calm, aesthetically pleasing environments. But don't let all that sugar and spice fool you. Libra are easily upset by the chaos of life and then the October-born can be as quarrelsome, as irritable and as intractable as any Sign in the Zodiac. These are very social human beings. It’s difficult – even unnatural – for Libra to “go it alone”. More than any other Sign, they function best in “people” environments. At a party, you’ll find that Libra is the one playing host or hostess – no matter whose house it is – and looking fabulously at ease: they have a very artful way of serving cocktails and scintillating ideas with equal aplomb. Libra loathe cruelty, viciousness and vulgarity. And they detest overt conflict. So they do their best to cooperate and compromise with everyone around them. Their ideal for their own circle (and for society as a whole) is unity. And their cast of mind is artistic rather than intellectual: many Libra are drawn to creative fields, since their eye for beauty is often quite refined. Libra is symbolized by the Scales of Balance, and just as a set of scales will teeter back and forth before achieving a new balance, Libra will vacillate to and fro between extremes: mental, emotional or physical. When the Libra does make a decision, however, you can probably bank on its integrity. The polar opposite of subjective Aries, the Libra is quite capable of objective judgment: irrespective of his own tastes, mores, philosophies or preferences. And even though Libra take a lot of heat for being indecisive, they make up for it with an idealism that has the power to change their world. Perhaps this is why there are more judges born under Libra than under any other Sun Sign and why the Scales have come to represent our system of justice. However, once they have reached a conclusion Libra will not tolerate a divergent opinion: among their faults is an impatience of criticism and a greed for approval. Moreover, the negative Libra character may show frivolity, flirtatiousness and shallowness. It can be changeable and indecisive, impatient of routine, colorlessly conventional and timid, easygoing to the point of inertia and inappropriately docile: yet Libra can shock everyone around them with sudden, and inexplicable, storms of rage. The Libra flair for tact and diplomacy is unparalleled in the Zodiac. And in business and diplomatic relations, the Libra is able (far more often than not) to accomplish what he desires without destroying relationships that could be valuable to him in the future. Great venture partners, they relish bouncing ideas off other people and eagerly contribute their talents to committed teams. But the ease with which they pursue any argument can sometimes make you wonder where the Libra really stands. Nothing irritates these natives' harmonizing intellect more than one-dimensional thinking. So, if they think your line of reasoning is too pat or simplistic, they'll purposely take the opposing view. And while 'Lazy Libra' is a common phrase - the same languid style that puts everyone in a relaxed mood can lead to self-indulgence and a passive attitude toward life – those who would casually ascribe laziness to the October-born have never seen them in their more productive mode. Once they have committed themselves to a goal, Libra can become powerhouses: using their well-ordered intellects to accomplish in leaps and bounds tasks that might encumber other Signs. The trouble is that in planning any endeavor they can get so lost in the endless labyrinth of strategies, factors and options which have to be weighed and evaluated by their logical minds that Libra’s procrastination can give you the best portrayal of laziness you've ever seen. Romantically Speaking: The Sun in Libra has a natural gift for being the ideal in the eyes of their beloved. And that is because they’re so instinctively aware of what it is the other wants and needs them to be. So, while some Libras end up losing their sense of self in the process, a more romantic, devoted partner is hard to find. THE AQUARIUS PROFILE Positive Traits Friendly and Humanitarian Progressive and Pioneering Original and Inventive Eccentric, Independent and Intellectual Negative Traits Intractable and Dogmatic Perverse and Unpredictable Unemotional and Detached Isolated The Sun in Aquarius has been called the “rebel” of the Zodiac because of their total commitment to their unique vision. They’re uncompromisingly anchored in their own lives and grant that same autonomy to others. And, because Aquarius instinctively appreciate diversity and have a sustaining confidence in their own convictions, they are extremely tolerant of the behaviors and opinions of others. So, with an innate sense that everyone should “do their own thing”, Aquarius often seem to be detached – and friendly – at the same time. Noted for their altruistic and progressive natures, Aquarius possess strong-willed, forceful and attractive personalities that present themselves as one or the other of two core types: the first shy, sensitive, gentle and patient; the second exuberant, lively and exhibitionist. Both types are humane, frank, serious-minded, genial, refined and often ethereal and idealistic. The last quality, however, is tempered with a sensible practicality. So, while the Aquarian nature is known as eccentric, that is only because it follows that personal golden thread of inspiration to the limits. Another name for this could be genius, since it pushes out into the road less traveled and then goes yet further. And while this sometimes leads to great achievement, there’s always a chance that it can also lead to isolation. However, quick, active and persevering (usually interacting with others with reason, moderation and good humor), the native’s distain for the status quo – unlike the social activism of Sagittarius or the overt revolt of Aries – is most usually held in check by a quiet optimism: that things, given time and patient crusade, will improve. Rather, his more subtle rebellion most usually manifests itself in unconventional dress or grooming, erratic behaviors and wry (devastating) sarcasm. Too, despite the magnetic, forthcoming and open personality of the extrovert Aquarius and the humanistic traits of both types, neither makes friends readily. They do not give themselves easily - perhaps their judgment of human nature is too good for that - and are sometimes accounted condescending and cold. Even in the intimate companionship that they instinctively seek, they are fiercely independent. They dislike interference by others, however helpfully intended, and will accept it only on their own terms. But once they decide that another is worthy of their friendship, Aquarius are tenacious and extraordinarily loyal compatriots. However, if they are deceived their anger is terrible. And if disillusioned (usually because their own idealism causes them to demand more of others than is reasonable) Aquarius do not forgive. Aquarius work most effectively within a group environment provided that they are recognized as having a leading role in the project. They’re tuned into a different frequency, and have a vast mindscape that seems to make them self-sufficient. In other words, they’re happy to spend time alone. Yet as a sign of paradoxes, the Aquarius is also drawn to groups and “communities.” Able to quickly identify the undercurrents of gatherings, they are adept at helping people act together to accomplish a goal. They’re usually at the forefront of a cause: often before it becomes safe or fashionable. Aquarius have a feeling of unity with nature and a desire for knowledge and truth that makes them admirable scientists: most especially astronomers and natural historians. These are the ones with a faraway look, most likely thinking brilliant and futuristic thoughts. Their minds seem to roam the outer edges of what is possible, and many of them make the impossible a reality as pioneers in science and technology. And their quirky, wholly original take on life gives them an edge should they venture into the Arts. The Aquarius talent for mimicry and parody serves them well as character actors or comedians. Their avant-garde tendencies are often expressed in writing (most usually poetry), public service broadcasting and musical innovation. And their altruism may find its voice in welfare fields or education. Romantically Speaking: The Aquarius remains a sovereign being who needs an intellectual rapport to sustain a romance. An ideal mate inhabits a parallel universe and from it is able to accept the physical and mental distances that the Aquarius personality imposes. And it is often very surprising to see how much love can grow in the space between two people. THE GEMINI PROFILE Positive Traits Adaptable and Versatile Eloquent and Witty Intellectual and Engaging Charming, Youthful and Lively Negative Traits Nervous and Restless Superficial and Inconsistent Cunning and Duplicitous Rumor-Mongering Gemini, the Sign of the Twins, is dual-natured, elusive, complex and contradictory. To them, life is a game that must always be full of fresh moves and continuous entertainment and free of labor and routine. Charmers and clowns, they often wear a silly grin that seems to say that they get the cosmic joke that all is, after all, well: it’s really okay to sample everything from the smorgasbord of life. And, since they’re always finding something absurd to giggle over, you might hear the laughter of Gemini Suns before you see them. They’re great wits and their interest in people often thrusts them into the role of social ice breaker. Their good qualities are attractive and come easily to them. They are affectionate, courteous, kind, generous, and thoughtful - provided none of the activities resulting from expressing these traits interferes too greatly with their own lives and comforts. And in social situations, even at their worst they are never dull - there is usually playfulness below the surface and they can be exhilarating conversationalists. However, often referred to as the dilettante of the Zodiac because they’ll try anything once and usually do, the Gemini needs to be able to reinvent himself many times and to follow the threads of inspiration wherever they lead. And that innate quality can make these natives seem restless and inconsistent. So, although Gemini may be hard to pin down and a bit challenging to deal with, if you can accept the shape-shifting nature of their personalities, they make excellent friends. But be warned that like chameleons, they absorb and reflect every change in their environment and can become pessimistic, sullen, peevish and self-centered prattlers, boasters, liars and cheats if circumstances force them to struggle in any way. Gemini have a keen and intuitive intelligence. They love cerebral challenges and though they dislike the labor of learning, their mental agility, energy and insatiable curiosity afford them a voracious appetite for knowledge. Many Gemini become veritable walking encyclopedias. And if a Gemini finds a subject worthy of his incredible kaleidoscopic mind, these individuals have the capacity to become masters of an art or science. So, although their intellect is strongly analytical and sometimes gives them so great an ability to see both sides of a question that they vacillate and find it hard to make decisions, their cleverness and ingenuity may also very well be used to control and unify the duality of their natures into a most efficient unit. If faced with difficulties, they have little determination to worry at a problem until they find a solution - they will pick the brains of others. Any work that combines quick-wittedness with a change of surroundings suits Gemini. They are often skilled manipulators of language and are usually very successful diplomats, academics, authors, poets, journalists and lawyers (albeit they are more brilliant than profound and more interested in theory than in practice). And any and every sales venue is, of course, sweet home to them. Romantically Speaking: The Gemini knows that the world is vast and full of endless fascinations to explore and so they need an intellectual rapport with their mate. The ideal companions for them are individuals who think at their same speed of light. They need a certain kind of space to grow, and those who do manage to stay close to Gemini don’t try to hold on too tightly. Because, if the door of a relationship is open for them to come and go at will, they’ll usually, over time, prove their own brand of faithfulness. Art by Karen Mackenzie   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-21-15, 02:30 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Air - Libra, Aquarius and Gemini - Profiles" I will try to fathom all this when I can, but just wanted to say thank you for all the work you have done in such a short amount of time to discover all this info.   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-21-15, 07:33 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Air - Libra, Aquarius and Gemini - Profiles" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 06:23 PM (EST) I hope you'll come back often, dabo. As for the work ... I really love to see a Season with returnees. And one that is cast with all returnees is even better. Because I already have all of their biographical information (including birthdates). Too, with the exception of being very disappointed that Shane isn't making the trip to Cambodia (he has long been one of favorite players), I'm really looking forward to this coming Season not least because, as Pepe has said in another thread, Survivor is at long last actually going to a new and faraway place. And the Cast of Second Chances should be an interesting group. There will be, as you can see, only one 'grounded' Earth Sign (Tasha | Capricorn) in the Game. And if the Earth and Water Signs were a Majority, that would be a very good thing for Tasha. However, as a member of the Minority, unless she can manage to duplicate Tina's (Earth | Capricorn) extraordinary feat, it is not. At all. The other eight of the Minority Earth and Water contingent are intuitive | emotional Water Signs. In fact, seven of the Season's ten women are Water natives. On the other side of the gender fault line, eight of the Season's ten men are impetuous |confrontational (Majority) Fire Signs or analytical | self-centric (Majority) Air natives. Woo and (perhaps) Spencer are the exceptions. So, the behavioral battle lines are pretty much in concert with those gender fault lines. And those of us in the the audience who prefer our Seasons a bit on the chaotic side should have a merry time of it in the Fall. In fact, given the natural divisions of this Cast, I wonder if the producers might not revive Exile Island's initial gender-based four-tribe configuration. It would add another whiff of nostalgia to the proceedings and, who knows, we might even get a few truly innovative and interesting Challenges to boot. Whatever, given its Cast, Second Chances should be fun. It would, however, have been 'funner' with Shane ... G Note: I think that it is sometimes forgotten that the producers of the show employ psychological testing and personality typing (and subsequently structure the Games' Tribes) in order to foster entertaining interpersonal dynamics. Survivor's superficial tribal 'tags' are either secondary to that goal or often altogether an afterthought.   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-22-15, 12:05 PM (EST) 16. "Update!" LAST EDITED ON 05-23-15 AT 06:21 PM (EST) dabo ... Make that nine of the Season's ten men are impetuous |confrontational (Majority) Fire Signs or analytical | self-centric (Majority) Air natives. Woo is the only male (Minority) Earth or Water native in the Cast. Spencer, it would seem, is a Gemini (Air) and so Minority membership is now down to ... eight. G   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-25-15, 00:59 AM (EST) 17. "Worlds Apart Review | Welcome!" LAST EDITED ON 05-25-15 AT 10:55 PM (EST) Art by Karen Mackenzie The Premise You cannot change who you are. Eventually your true nature will win out — especially when you’re deprived of food and energy and you’re out in the open, trying to figure out a way to get along with people you don’t know if you can trust. We all have our set reactions, and that’s hard to suppress. If I’m a born leader, it’s hard for me to take a back seat. If I’m a follower by nature, it’s hard for me to lead. ~ Jeff Probst Signs of Survival uses Astrology’s Sun Sign Profiles (vetted over thousands of years) to identify, group, chart and analyze the behavioral histories of those twelve distinct societies within the Game. And - experts that you are - everyone with a birthday is encouraged to join this discussion. Note: Psychometric Profiles rely heavily upon self-reported data to sort individuals into - most commonly, sixteen - definitively-labeled Personality Types. Astrology’s Sun Sign Profiles, on the other hand, rely solely upon a set of objective facts – the month, day, year, place (and time) of birth - to accomplish the same task. Edited-In I am not an Astrologer. I am not even a student or amateur practitioner of the Art | Science | Craft. Beyond an intrigued layman's familiarity with its Sign Profiles, I, very literally, know nothing about it. And I am certainly not qualified to defend Astrology from its critics. I am, however, quite comfortable with my use of those Profiles here because ... I spent decades of my life within the sales industry - where psychometric personality typing | aptitude testing is virtually a religion and sharing the personal information gleaned from those processes is a prevalent professional and social ritual. And it wasn't long into the first of those decades that I began to notice the frequency with which Myers-Briggs (et al) inventories very closely resemble the Sun Sign vignettes that I first read as a teen. So closely, in fact, that in most instances one could substitute the latter for the former and save everyone involved a great deal of angst, time and money. But, the moment that CBS begins releasing its behavioral-testing results for Survivor candidates | players to the public, I promise that I'll use those instead ... An experiment: Complete an MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) Questionnaire (or another currently-trending behavioral survey) and compare it to your Sun Sign Profile found here or to another found across a spectrum of thousands of sites dedicated to Astrology. Note: I have, in a great many instances, refused to participate in psychometric testing in a professional setting. Despite the vigorous protestations of psychologists | sociologists with a lucrative stake in their sales to the contrary, I think that self-reporting platforms are too easily manipulated. And too often, I think, corporate entities lack personnel and/or officers with adequate education and training, and/or objectivity, to use their results productively. Or even responsibly. Note: From Borneo through Heroes v Villains, I was able to rely on CBS biographies for birthdates. But from Nicaragua forward I’ve had to rely on a patchwork of sources to produce what I believe are the most accurate compilations possible. And with that in mind, I will continue to make corrections when they are necessary and … carry on. The Basics Astrology groups personalities, first, by the common innate traits and behaviors of the natives of each of the twelve Astronomy-inspired Sun Signs Keyword – Ego Astrology then places each of the twelve in one of four groups of three Sun Signs defined by the characteristics of the four Philosophy-inspired Elements Keyword – Temperament The Element Earth - These three practical and industrious Signs are Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo. The Element Water - These three emotional and intuitive Signs are Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. The Element Fire – These three charismatic and spontaneous Signs are Aries, Leo and Sagittarius. The Element Air – These three intellectual and balanced Signs are Libra, Gemini and Aquarius Note: The personalities of the three Sun Signs within an Element are said to be compatible with each other. And the Elements of Earth and Water (E&W) and of Fire and Air (F&A) are considered to be complementary of one another and in opposition to the other pair. Grouping and then analyzing the performances of Survivor’s Sun Signs by The naturally – opposed duos of E&W and F&A exposes the unmistakable fact that in 88% (21 of 24) of the completed Seasons that have been cast with Majority/Minority populations a member of the dominant psychological culture won the Game. The three exceptions to the Majority Wins Rule have been Tina | Capricorn (The Outback), Yul | Aquarius (Cook Islands) and Jud | Gemini (Nicaragua). Astrology further identifies and describes each of the three Sun Signs within an Element by the Sign’s Psychology-inspired Mode (or Quality) Keyword: Behavior The initiative Cardinal Signs approach new environments with a zest for beginning new activities and pursuing new accomplishments. Earth’s Cardinal Sign is Capricorn. Water’s Cardinal Sign is Cancer. Fire’s Cardinal Sign is Aries.And Air’s Cardinal Sign is Libra. The versatile Mutable Signs are able to see life from many perspectives. As a result, they are flexible, adaptable and restless: there is a touch of urgency and haste in their natures. Earth’s Mutable Sign is Virgo. Water’s Mutable Sign is Pisces. Fire’s Mutable Sign is Sagittarius.And Air’s Mutable Sign is Gemini. The steadfast Fixed Signs dig in. And they are respected for their self-containment and sense of purpose. However, change is difficult for them, and as a result, they have a reputation for being stubborn. Earth’s Fixed Sign is Taurus. Water’s Fixed Sign is Scorpio. Fire’s Fixed Sign is Leo. And Air’s Fixed Sign is Aquarius. Note: You will also see within the Sun Sign Profiles and on Tribal Charts the Survivor-inspired Roles Keyword: Place. The Sun Sign Profiles of the Superior Signs – Capricorn (Cardinal Earth), Cancer (Cardinal Water), Scorpio (Fixed Water) and Leo (Fixed Fire) – indicate that their natives are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in a position of leadership. The Sun Sign Profiles of the Subordinate Signs–Taurus (Fixed Earth), Virgo (Mutable Earth), Pisces (Mutable Water) and Gemini (Mutable Air)– indicate that these personalities are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in sheltered (supportive or specialized) positions. And the Sun Sign Profiles of the Soloist Signs – Aries (Cardinal Fire), Sagittarius (Mutable Fire), Libra (Cardinal Air) and Aquarius (Fixed Air) – indicate that these folks are most comfortable – and function most effectively – in autonomous (detached or semi-detached) positions. Note: The Roles are my invention and are meant to be a lay addendum to the Signs’ Astrologic identities: A shorthand developed from their Sun Sign Profiles that uses familiar terms to indicate the hierarchal positions most natural (and comfortable) to their natives. Edited-In During Guatemala, a contributor to Veruca Salt's Editing Thread who many of you may remember – Whole Lotta Rosie – speaking of another once-prolific member of our community, made this observation in Signs of Survival: KOB always does a great job on the Nash Equilibrium, and this ties in very well. Subordinates, Soloists, and Superiors is strategy defined; according to Nash.. And I so very much appreciated the mention of a concept that I had created in the same breath as a reference to the Bluefield, WV native’s work. However, I never really agreed with the comparison. Because, if I understand Game Theory correctly, Dr. Nash’s proposition was that each of the players within a Game has available to them a buffet of three principal Strategies – Leader, Follower and Outsider – from which to choose throughout game-play. But, I think of Superior, Subordinate and Soloist, not as Strategies, but as innate behavioral Identities that are – particularly in a crisis environment – difficult, if not impossible, to discard (see the Premise | Quote at the top of this post): That – unlike Nash’s strategy-defined player who begins the Game as a Leader, continues it as a Follower and concludes it as an Outsider – the Superior who elects to behave as would a Subordinate who then elects to behave as would a Soloist remains a Superior – intrinsic characteristics, traits and behaviors intact … and conflicted. In short: I think that players who (are able to) stay within their own psychological skin throughout the Game are, as a general rule, much more successful at it. Note: This Season’s winner is, of course, a very glaring – and very conflicted – exception to that rule. The Players Guide to Worlds Apart Finally, before we move on to our look back at this past Season, below is a quick-reference Guide to its Players and their Signs, Elements, Modes and Roles. Clicking on the links in the right-hand column will access the Sun Sign Profiles of each of Worlds Apart’s Survivors. CAPRICORN Nina, So VIRGO Lindsey, Rodney TAURUS Kelly CANCER Hali PISCES Shirin, Tyler SCORPIO Absent ARIES Max SAGITTARIUS Sierra LEO Joaquin, Mike Will LIBRA Carolyn, Joe GEMINI Absent AQUARIUS Dan, Jenn Vince And One Last Note I’m going to post the outlines for each of the segments of the review of Worlds Apart (and the snapshots of Movers, Makers and Shakers) tonight and edit-in my comments over the next several days – it’s been a busy weekend. I hope that, as I do that , you’ll add your thoughts about the Season too. Because, although the Reunion was (for me) a disappointment, I thought that the last few days of the Game were fascinating from a variety of viewpoints. Not least, through the prism of its Sun Signs. And I’m really looking forward to reading your impressions.   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-25-15, 01:02 AM (EST) 18. "Worlds Apart Review | The Many Collars" LAST EDITED ON 06-04-15 AT 07:30 AM (EST) Please See The Following Post Extending Editing Window   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 06-04-15, 07:26 AM (EST) 23. "Worlds Apart Review | The Many Collars" Edited-In It has rarely (as in truly never before) happened that we've had the luxury of a Season just completed as the next Cast is revealed. And, as our surprising good luck - and Jeff Probst's newfound faith in his heretofore rabble of an audience - would have it, both Seasons have very thin (56%-44% and 60% - 40%) Fire and Air Majorities. So, between now and a September that will shock me with its almost immediate arrival, this irredeemable procrastinator is really going to attempt to take proper advantage of every comparison within reach! But, I should say before I begin that I'm miserable at re-capping events (in general) and strategies (in particular). For instance, I was much too busy watching Rodney be a more fascinating incarnation of Virgo to now remember why his fellow Virgo - Lindsey - was booted. So, someone else - ideally, anyone other than a Fire native - is going to have to provide the details that always escape me. That said - and in view of the fact that the Color-Collared (or No) Tribes of Worlds Apart are the topic of the post and occupy its topmost territory - and that So, Vince, Nina and the aforementioned Lindsey are at the northernmost tip of its boot order - I'll begin with them: As the public faces of its introductory distribution theme | scheme, I suppose Worlds Apart's three Collars were as good as any other of the many possible variations of Cagayan's Brawn vs Brains vs Beauty success story. With the exception, perhaps, of Will (who, if you think about it, is not physically unattractive), the real-world pedigrees of the Casts of Brawn | Blue Collar - and - Brains | White Collar - and - Beauty | No Collar - were virtually interchangeable: BRAWN Tony |Virgo|Subordinate Lindsey |Virgo|Subordinate Woo |Pisces|Subordinate Cliff |Sagittarius|Soloist Sarah |Libra|Soloist Trish |Libra|Soloist BLUE COLLAR Mike |Leo|Superior Kelly |Taurus|Subordinate Lindsey |Virgo|Subordinate Rodney |Virgo|Subordinate Sierra |Sagittarius|Soloist Dan |Aquarius|Soloist vs BRAINS Tasha |Capricorn|Superior Kass |Scorpio|Superior Garrett |Taurus|Subordinate J'Tia |Virgo|Subordinate David |Pisces|Subordinate Spencer |Gemini|Subordinate WHITE COLLAR So |Capricorn|Superior Joaquin |Leo|Superior Shirin |Pisces|Subordinate Tyler |Pisces|Subordinate Max |Aries|Soloist Carolyn |Libra|Soloist vs BEAUTY LJ |Capricorn|Superior Jefra |Cancer|Superior Morgan |Cancer|Superior Alexis |Pisces|Subordinate Brice |Pisces|Subordinate Jeremiah |Gemini|Subordinate NO COLLAR Nina |Capricorn|Superior Hali |Cancer|Superior Will |Leo|Superior Joe |Libra|Soloist Jenn |Aquarius|Soloist Vince |Aquarius|Soloist Note: Do You Suppose That Lindsey | Virgo | Single Mother | Hairdresser | Canvas Will Be Reincarnated Once Again, in Cambodia? So, it will be interesting to see if Season Thirty-Two actually airs as an ever-so-lame Brawn vs Brains vs Beauty II. For instance, even if it might require some slight exaggeration (or straight-faced denial) of person-to-place associations, why not East Coast (Brains | White Collar) vs West Coast (Beauty | No Collar) vs No Coast (Brawn | Blue Collar)? And I am truly a fan of Three-Or Four-Tribe Seasons. Because it seems to me that tribal memberships reduced to inherently more dramatic familial - love | hate - levels afford story-tellers a richer palette - and - that they are, therefore, much more engaging for the audience - and - that their narrow social avenues are, for the Survivors, much more challenging to navigate. And I don't think that the last has ever been more true than it was in Worlds Apart. Which is so strange! Because during the two or so months leading up to the Season, it appeared on social media as though virtually the entire Cast were the best of friends. In fact, the picture of what appeared to be their extraordinary camaraderie was so perfect that there was a great deal of speculation about what change in the Series' basic format might have afforded the entire group the time and circumstance necessary to form such apparently strong bonds. However, when the Episodes began airing, the picture of the Cast's on-camera behaviors and in-game relationships that emerged was anything but perfect. And definitely not pretty (as watching Worlds Apart became a sometimes uncomfortably ugly experience). Someone on this Board put it this way: These people really don't like each other, do they! So - because I've yet to hear a comprehensive explanation of the dichotomy - I am left to wonder if the postproduction friendships-of-convenience of The Dirty 30 that we've seen on such prominent display have sprung from the fact that Worlds Apart's players became determined to reclaim what they could of their Survivor legacy from a CBS hierarchy equally determined to convert those Thirty-Nine Days, Plus-Reunion, into nothing more than a launch platform for Second Chances. And, speaking of platforms, there is also, of course, the everlasting dichotomy between Jeff Probst's Before and After performances atop his. But, his Sun Sign is Scorpio, you know ... And, speaking of Worlds Apart - and Jeff Probst - and - The Dirty 30 - and - Sun Signs - from Signs of Survival's much more modest perch: I'll have more to say about the Elements when we reach that Performance Chart just below. But, for now, I'll point out that the Cast of Worlds Apart was composed of ten Fire and Air natives and eight Earth and Water natives: creating a 56% to 44% Fire and Air Majority advantage. And that meant that for all practical purposes, its Earth and Water natives didn't stand a chance of winning the Game. In comparison, the Cast of Second Chances will be composed of twelve Fire and Air natives and eight Earth and Water natives: creating a 60% to 40% Fire and Air Majority advantage. And that means that for all practical purposes, S31's Earth and Water natives won't stand a chance of winning the Game either. Here are the two Seasons' Wrong-Side-of-The-Zodiac players charted side-by-side: THE EARTH and WATER NATIVES of WORLDS APART So | Earth | Capricorn | Superior Nina | Earth | Capricorn | Superior Kelly | Earth | Taurus | Subordinate Lindsey | Earth | Virgo | Subordinate Rodney | Earth | Virgo | Subordinate Hali | Water | Cancer | Superior Shirin | Water | Pisces | Subordinate Tyler | Water | Pisces | Subordinate THE EARTH and WATER NATIVES of SECOND CHANCES Tasha | Earth | Capricorn | Superior Kelly | Water | Cancer | Superior Monica | Water | Cancer | Superior Kass | Water | Scorpio | Superior Kimmi | Water | Scorpio | Superior Ciera | Water | Pisces | Subordinate Shirin | Water | Pisces | Subordinate Woo | Water | Pisces | Subordinate Translations: A: The Minority in Worlds Apart was composed of 3 Superior and 5 Subordinate Signs. AA: The Earth contingent in Worlds Apart numbered 5. Joined by 3 Water Signs. But, 3 of the first 4 boots of the Game were Earth natives. And the 4th left the Game at the Merge. Leaving only 1 - Rodney (Virgo). B: The Minority in Second Chances will be composed of 5 Superior and 3 Subordinate Signs. BB: The Earth contingent in Second Chances will number (in total) only 1 - Tasha (Capricorn). Joined by 9 Water Signs. C: In Worlds Apart only three women (vs 7 men) had a realistic opportunity to win the Game: Sierra (Fire | Sagittarius), Carolyn (Air | Libra) and Jenn (Air | Aquarius). D: In Second Chances only three women (vs 9 men) will have a realistic opportunity to win the Game: Peigh-Gee (Fire | Aries), Abi-Maria (Air | Libra) and Kelley (Air |Gemini). DD: The two previous All-Returnee Seasons were won by women who played low-key Games: Amber and Sandra (Fire | Leo). But, both of those Seasons featured Balanced (50% - 50%) Casts. Conclusions: None. Absolutely none. But, for easier reference and in a shameful effort to buy some time before committing myself to any guesses about the gameplay and outcome of the upcoming Season, I'll import a sample configuration of the Second Chances' Cast that I posted earlier while we take a closer look back at Worlds Apart's initial Tribes and its first four boots. KOH TUICH Tasha |Capricorn|Superior Monica | Cancer|Superior Kimmi |Scorpio|Superior Ciera |Pisces|Subordinate Abi-Maria |Libra|Soloist DOEUM D'KEUW Kelly |Cancer|Superior Kass |Scorpio|Superior Shirin |Pisces|Subordinate Kelley |Gemini|Subordinate Peih-Gee |Aries|Soloist PREK SVAY Andrew |Leo|Superior Spencer |Gemini|Subordinate Jeremy |Aries|Soloist Jeff |Aries|Soloist Joe |Libra|Soloist SOK SAN Keith |Leo|Superior Woo |Pisces|Subordinate Vytas |Sagittarius|Soloist Terry |Libra|Soloist Stephen |Aquarius|Soloist About This Second Chances Tribal Scheme A. No two Survivors have previously played the Game together. B. Affords a bit more protection for the more vulnerable players in the beginning stages of the Game than does a Two-Tribe scheme. C. Each Tribe includes one or two younger players. D. Incorporates the names of the four villages of Koh Rong Island ... Of Cao Boi, Max and So Although it wasn't until later that I discovered that Max was - like Tagi's and Aitutaki's resident conversation pieces - an Aries, when I first read Jeff Probst's revelation that the depth of the former Communication Professor's (and future Nudist's) knowledge of the Game extended to the Sun Sign 'most likely to win it', I thought immediately about Cao Boi's afternoon spent prying their dates of birth from between the clenched teeth of unamused Rarotongans. And I wondered if Max's White Collar tribemates would be subjected to the same sly just-getting-to-know-you quizzes. And, if they were, I wondered if any of them would have the good sense to ... lie. To swear to a 'most likely to not win it' May or December birthday. And stick to it! Note: Unfortunately for Cao Boi - Survivor's quintessential prophet in his own land - I don't think that he ever had the chance to put the fruits of his impromptu exams to use. At the same time, I was also wondering if I would ever find So Kim's date of birth. Because it was rapidly becoming clear to me that it was downright impossible to find the right So Kim among the dozens in New York. And in Los Angeles. And everywhere in-between. And then appeared The Xfinity Interview: So: "I turned 30 ... I got a divorce, I resigned from my job to go on this adventure. I’m no longer at Macy’s. I’ll always have a job there if I want. But, I’ve always been a careerist my entire life. I’m a Capricorn, we’re dedicated, we’re steadfast, we get what we want. We’re ambitious." To Be Continued To Be Continued To Be Continued   Top

Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-25-15, 01:07 AM (EST) 19. "Worlds Apart Review | Escameca and Nagarote" LAST EDITED ON 06-04-15 AT 07:33 AM (EST) Please See The Following Post Extending Editing Window   Top

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