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"S29 | Ep 06 | VidCap Analysis *no sources*"
Deposit all ep 6 vidcaps and vidcap discussion within here.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Post Show Promo tribephyl 10-23-14 1
   RE: Post Show Promo Flowerpower1 10-23-14 2
 Press Images tribephyl 10-23-14 3
   RE: Press Images tribephyl 10-23-14 4
       RE: Press Images michel2 10-23-14 5
           Quitter=not this episode Flowerpower1 10-23-14 6
   RE: Press Images Sheldor 10-27-14 17
 SurvivorLive sneekpeek tribephyl 10-24-14 7
   RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek Outsider32 10-24-14 8
   RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek Flowerpower1 10-25-14 9
       RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek tribephyl 10-25-14 12
           RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek michel2 10-26-14 13
               RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek tribephyl 10-26-14 15
 Web Promo tribephyl 10-25-14 10
   RE: Web Promo Flowerpower1 10-25-14 11
       RE: Web Promo michel2 10-26-14 14
           RE: Web Promo suzzee 10-27-14 16
               RE: Web Promo tribephyl 10-27-14 18
                   RE: Web Promo Sheldor 10-27-14 20
 S29 | Ep 06 | Press Images Sorted b... Sheldor 10-27-14 19
 S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos Sheldor 10-27-14 21
   RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos Flowerpower1 10-27-14 22
       RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos Sheldor 10-28-14 23
           RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos Flowerpower1 10-28-14 24
               RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos michel2 10-28-14 25
               RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos Outsider32 10-28-14 27
 IC Explanation tribephyl 10-28-14 26

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10-23-14, 00:47 AM (EST)
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1. "Post Show Promo"
Vidcaps and Transcript courtesy of SurvivorFever.net

JP: Next time on Survivor...
Jon: What's this?
Dale: It's an idol.
JP: Dale gambles with his fake idol.
Dale (camera confessional): I'm not dead until I see my name written 4 times.
JP: While Hunahpu finds nothing comes without a price.
JP (talking to Hunahpu Tribe): There has never been a tribe that has needed as much help as you guys have, and it's going to be a stiff penalty.

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There has never been a tribe that has needed as much as you, and it's going to be a stiff penalty.
Thank you, JP. I've been waiting years to hear you say that to me.

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10-23-14, 07:37 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Post Show Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 10-23-14 AT 07:39 AM (EST)


Dale's confessional vidcaps sandwiched in right in the middle...OFG and CTGirl theory's combined...lol!

Look how the nuHun's line up...

All old Hun's on the left of the frame, and the three nuHun's on the right of the frame...Alec is next to Josh.

I do get the vibe that Dale is a dead man walking, quit or no quit, and I agree the nuHun's will be tough to beat.

Will they merge at 12? That would be after this next episode...

If merge at 12 then those likely to make the merge:

Singles: Jeremy, Natalie, Julie, Alec,
Couples: Josh/Reed, Keith/Wes, Jon/Jacklyn, Missy/Baylor

Clear to see if the couples do seek to win the game, they are far outnumbering the singles at the merge...

Tribe you CRACK me up

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10-23-14, 12:52 PM (EST)
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3. "Press Images"
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10-23-14, 02:35 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Press Images"
Looks like a defeated Keith at the end of the IC.

And according to timestamps, Coyopa is the camp to watch AFTER the IC.

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5. "RE: Press Images"
With a physical team challenge, Hunahpu was going to win for sure. With two older guys, they simply can't compete against Jeremy, Alec, Wes, Josh, Reed and Natalie.
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10-23-14, 07:59 PM (EST)
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6. "Quitter=not this episode"
Does this look like the face of a quitter?

This plus the name of the episode, "Make some Magic", sounds like something Dale would say as he pulls out the fake HII...

I am thinking perhaps the quitter will leave post merge? At the merge beach, Coyopa...

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10-27-14, 11:11 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Press Images"
Missing Press Images 41-45

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10-24-14, 07:08 PM (EST)
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7. "SurvivorLive sneekpeek"
VidCaps and Transcript courtesy of SurvivorFever.net

Dale (camera confessional): Just reading the votes last night, I know who's next. Me. So I've got to do something drastic to make sure I don't go home. I'm not dead til I see my name written 4 times.
Jon: What's this?
Dale: It's an idol.
Jon: What?
Dale: So, just so you know. Next vote means I know I'm on the chopping block.
Dale: The idol is not a true idol. I just took it off the water well, the first day here. They don't know it's not, but they're gonna spend a couple restless nights thinking it is.
Dale: So I won't be going home next time.
Jon: Okay. It doesn't look like it.
Jon: This morning Dale showed me an Immunity Idol. If we lose in the next IC, the idol could potentially ruin our plan, and that really scares me.

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10-24-14, 08:53 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek"
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-14 AT 08:54 PM (EST)

Keith likely is playing his idol this show because his name has to be written down if not Dale's.

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10-25-14, 08:56 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek"
LAST EDITED ON 10-25-14 AT 09:05 AM (EST)


Well, we know that Dale tells Jon he has an idol in the AM, before the immunity challenge. So, he either tells him the AM before the reward challenge, and is a candidate to go to EI, and find a real one, OR, he tells him the AM before the IC.

Regardless, more than likely Jon will communicate to the group about Dale's antics. They will split the votes and Dale will go home, OR, Keith will reveal to someone that he has the real idol and they all vote for Dale and he goes home.

I would assume what is on one water lid, would be on the other, so if no one took the decoration off the lid at Hunahpu, then more than likely Jon, Missy, Keith would all know that it is NOT the real idol. But, OTOH, this is Survivor, and people get paranoid. Josh was told that Rocker had an idol, and he may have told Baylor. Most likely Dale knew too. So, they would most likely think another one was in play.

What will be interesting is if they do buy that it or he has a real idol, who they decide to throw the other votes to...revealing who is on the bottom of the pecking order.

Now, one other thing to speculate about...At Sucks someone pointed out that looking at the bags it looks like Reed went to EI, and has returned to the IC, which assumes that Baylor won the Hero challenge. But, I disagree. I think it is wise to look at bags brought to the IC, it can help narrow it down....here are pics from them arriving at the IC...

I think there is some clothing by Julie's feet, and a clear Coyopa bag, but there is also either a blue Hunahpu bag or Hunahpu water bottles and clothing behind Reed and Josh. Now here is a pic of nuCoyopa's mat:

It looks like there is a Coyopa bag and either a Hanahpu water bottle or bag, but look at Baylor....if you look closely you can see she's carrying her bag and her water bottle....could she be our returner from EI?

Then here is the last shot before the start of the challenge:

Baylor has put down her stuff and is ready to play...

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10-25-14, 11:31 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek"
With you 100%.
Baylor and Reed face off in the Hero Challenge.
Reed will win which automatically sends Baylor to Exile Island.
Reed will most likely pick Josh to go to Exile with her. (He knows they were allied.)


The Dale's faux-idol storyline is interesting because the show is trying to make more out of it than would appear is really going on.
While the only real shot we have of Hunahpu's water-well is in ep 4 and during Keith's search for the idol, it does NOT appear to have a similar tchotchke tied to the lid.
Hunapu Water-Well Lid

So if there was a similar item it was taken before ep4.
Which does lend some credence to the thought that Jon may fall for it being a real idol, because he most likely hasn't seen anything like it.

Add to that a sequence aired that appeared to show Dale taking his "idol" out of his pocket, placing it in a bag and then walking off. The strange part is it is shown out of sequence.
The idol is taken from the bag, put into his pocket and then he leaves... to talk to Jon. I think this happens AFTER the Hero Challenge and BEFORE the Immunity Challenge.
IOW, He is not going to Exile Island.

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10-26-14, 02:29 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek"
Never heard the word tchotchke before but I think you've just shown us a great example of production interference. There HAD to be the same tchotchkes on both wells but it's evident that someone in production figured that they'd help sell Dale's tchotchke as an idol if they made all the other tchotchkes disappear.
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10-26-14, 01:25 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: SurvivorLive sneekpeek"
Or they had the intention, going into the season, to place something "usuable" on one camp and nothing on the other.
I've been scouring caps to see if anything similar showed up at Hunahpu. The only thing even remotely considerable is the feathers Drew wore, then shared with Jon (and now belong to Wes and Natalie).
While both came with leather straps, the feathers are...well feathers and they are blue, while the faux-idol at Coyopa is NOT yellow.
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10-25-14, 06:09 PM (EST)
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10. "Web Promo"
Vidcaps and Transcript courtesy of SurvivorFever.net

Reed (after Episode 5 Immunity Challenge): Jeff, we're out of food. We're looking to trade for a bag of rice to sustain us.
JP (at Hunahpu camp): There has never been a tribe that has needed as much help. First, you lose your flint. Now, you're completely out of rice, and you need help again.
Josh (camera confessional): I'm shocked that people were not smarter on this side.
Jeremy (camera confessional): Jeff is gonna clean us out. I'm not having that.
Alec (talking to Jeremy): I just hope he doesn't tear down our camp.
Julie (at Hunahpu camp): I'm scared of whatever is about to go down.
JP: I have rice, but it's going to be a stiff penalty.


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10-25-14, 08:20 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Web Promo"
Alec (talking to Jeremy): I just hope he doesn't tear down our camp.

Well. It sure sounds like they are going to ground zero...tearing down the camp...they might be missing Drew after all...lol!

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10-26-14, 02:32 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Web Promo"
It would even be better if they are told that everything will go to Coyopa. Of course, then the merge comes so Coyopa would still have had the tarp and now they get to share the new bag of rice!

I still think it should be traded for immunity but that would stink for only one player in the end.

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10-27-14, 10:58 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Web Promo"
I wonder just how needy they will be in the future, production and editing is making a lot of this aspect of their story. That's a huge bag of rice btw. Do you think that was the same size they started with?


I should be watched....closely.

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10-27-14, 01:01 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Web Promo"
They do start with 25 lbs of dry rice (400 ozs. OR 200 average servings). And I believe 5 lbs of dry beans as well.
Portion control was rampant on Coyopa. Which still leaves them with nearly "half a bag" or 200+ ozs OR nearly 100 average servings.
Whereas Hunahpu appears to have little more than a handful, perhaps 8 to 10 ozs. (4 or 5 servings)

Strange that JP is bringing a full size bag of rice considering when the merge happens (in 4 days) a new bag is included in their feast supplies as well as all rewards will be food based from that point on.
I doubt Hunahpu will actually decline whatever JP's offering and go "hungry" for the next 3 days but they should. Go fishing, for sake's sake! Stop complaining!
Instead they may lose their entire shelter and comfort items (or worse) just to cover for 3 days worth of rice.

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10-27-14, 08:07 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Web Promo"
tribephyl wrote: "Go fishing, for sake's sake! Stop complaining!"

Well Hunaphu traded away their Fishing Gear Reward challenge for a new Flint! Only Coyopa has Fishing Gear and Coyopa has a fresh water fishing hole where Rocker caught catfish.

Pretty hard for Hunaphu to catch fish in the ocean without fishing gear.

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10-27-14, 06:09 PM (EST)
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19. "S29 | Ep 06 | Press Images Sorted by Time"
19 of the 45 Press Images do NOT have Date/Time Info.
3 of the 45 Press Images have the year set to 2013 so the Time might be wrong too.

To sort the 19 Press Images without Date/Time info, I used the CBS Press Express Thumbnail filename. This is UNRELIABLE as they are using multiple cameras and the filenames are probably only sequential for each camera.

Note: Survivor Fever is missing this Press Image
104954_D31096b.jpg

Here are the Press Images sorted by Date/Time Info and/or Thumbnail filename...


No Date/Time Info! 104954_D29958b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0027.jpg

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6/15/2014 06:02 AM 104954_D30016b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0008.jpg

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6/15/2013 08:43 AM 104954_D29957b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0044.jpg
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<I think time might be 09:43 AM>

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No Date/Time Info! 104954_D31096b.jpg *MISSING from Survivor Fever*

If the above photo is actually from after the Reward Challenge then Reed won the Reward Challenge and Wes, Jeremy, and Julie were not picked to go to Exile Island with Baylor which leaves Alec, Josh, or Natalie (most likely Reed would pick Josh to go)


6/16/2013 08:20 AM 104954_D32013b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0017.jpg
<Camera has wrong Year so Time might be off too>
<I think time might be 09:20 AM>

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6/16/2014 10:00 AM 104954_D33054b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0016.jpg

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6/16/2013 09:07 AM 104954_D32031b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0013.jpg
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<I think time might be 10:07 AM>

No Date/Time Info! 104954_D32387b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0035.jpg

No Date/Time Info! 104954_D32396b.jpg s29_press_images_ep6_0023.jpg

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10-27-14, 08:50 PM (EST)
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21. "S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos"
Camp Photos

3 of Dale

2 of Jon

1 of Baylor

1 of Keith

1 of Missy

1 of Wes

2 of Missy/Baylor

1 of Dale/Jon

2 of Jaclyn/Jon

1 of Reed/Natalie

1 of Jeremy/Reed

1 of Hunaphu (Wes, Jeremy, Reed, Julie)

Total Camp Photo Appearances
5 of Jon
4 of Dale
3 of Baylor
3 of Missy
3 of Reed
2 of Jaclyn
2 of Jeremy
2 of Wes
1 of Julie
1 of Keith

Total Camp Photo Appearances AFTER the Immunity Challenge
5 of Jon
4 of Dale
3 of Baylor
3 of Missy
2 of Jaclyn
1 of Keith

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22. "RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos"
Sheldor: I want to thank you so much for organizing the press images for us each week, I do find it very helpful, especially when figuring out the timeline.

Regarding your thoughts on the placement of this picture...
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This appears as if it's a morning shot, we see Jeremy with his hood up and we see Julie in her shirt. Their clothing is similar to this one...

And it really matches the one dated 6/15, 6:02 AM...

Can't be 100% sure but I think it is most likely the AM of 6/15, at 6:00ish, they are waking up, stirring, just before Jiffy comes to their camp with the rice bag. I think it's the morning before they go to the Reward challenge. If that is the case it's non conclusive regarding the winner of the hero challenge...

I think the timeline goes perhaps we start the night of TC at Coyopa with a comment or two from Dale re: Kelly's boot, then cut to the next AM at dawn as the nuHunahpu's awaken...Jiffy arrives with the rice and the bargain is struck. Many confessionals about what it could be, etc...

Cut to hero arena and the duel between Baylor and Reed. I am in the camp that suspects Reed wins....Reed is either ahead of Baylor in the shots, OR, Baylor is ahead of Reed, and he has to go back for a missing piece or two? I think they are both capable of navigating the obstacles quite adeptly as they are both extremely nimble. I think Baylor will lose, and I think she will go to EI and he will choose Josh to go with her. I do not see them sending Dale to EI to find another HI clue. Keep him at camp so you can keep an eye on him.

AM of the IC, in the morning Jon goes crabbing and Dale puts his fake idol in his pocket and chases after Jon and show and tells it. Cut to the IC, Hunahpu's win again, drama about what the heck Dale has and to TC. Dale is toast, whether they split votes or not...

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23. "RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos"
GREAT job Flowerpower! I think you are right about where that Hunahpu camp photo should be in the timeline. I also think Reed wins the RC and sends his partner Josh since a) He knows Josh is aligned with Baylor, b) to get another clue to the HII.

Also, when Keith/Josh went to EI their clue had 6 symbols on it (4 for Rocker/Jeremy, 2 symbols for Val/Keith) but when Jaclyn/Drew went to EI their clue only had 2 symbols on it so it could be a clue to a new location at both camps and whoever goes this week (e.g. Baylor/Josh) would get a clue with 4 symbols which was enough for Rocker to find the HII.

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24. "RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos"
Now....last week Keith left with the idol from Hunahpu, and Rocker had taken the one he had home in his pocket. My question is, do you think they would hide two more immunity idols?

Sheldor is right, it sure looked like there was a new set of directions that Jacklyn and Drew got to see. But, when Drew and Jacklyn went the tribes were not split...would they hide another at Hunahpu when Keith was still there with his tucked away? Just curious...potentially having 3 HII's in play?

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25. "RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos"
Soon the day will come when they have a dozen idols in play so why not 3? Can you imagine idols with different powers running rampant?

PS. I once played an on-line game that had 12 idols and the rule was you had decide which one to give one away if you found a second... I'm surprised Burnett hasn't copied that twist yet.

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27. "RE: S29 | Ep 06 | PR Camp Photos"
John didn't take it home. He said that in his boot interview right after he was voted out. Production took his idol from him saying they'll give it back after the season.
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26. "IC Explanation"
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John Kirhoffer: Welcome to Behind the Scenes of the Challenges. This challenge is called Flips, Flops and Flags. On "go" the tribes will race to get all of their members up and over a 10 foot wall. Once on the other side, they will all push, flipping, flopping, dragging a large 8' x 8' large wooden cube across the beach. They'll stop off at a few spots (4), collecting puzzle pieces (in bags) that are in the shape of flags (2 per bag). When they get to the end, two players will then assemble the (8) flags in order. The first tribe to make their tribe flag and hoist it to the top, wins Immunity.


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