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"S27: Ep.12 Vidcap Analysis *no sources*"
tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 03:23 AM (EST)
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"S27: Ep.12 Vidcap Analysis *no sources*" |
Your weekly depository of vidcaps and discussion relating to those vidcaps for the 12th episode of S27.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 03:25 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Post-Show Promo" |
what's up with the random shot of a Tadhana flag at night?
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 02:59 PM (EST)
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10. "Observation" |
Thanks for posting, Tribe!I made an observation last night that may or may not mean anything at all. When these shots came on the promo...
They did NOT match up with the verbage that went with it... Gervase <talking to Hayden>: Tell me a move to make. Hayden: If you want to get him out, we should try right now. So, the editing is manipulating the scene here and as I noted, this may mean something, or not. Also, I transcribed the verbage as: Hayden to Gervase: If you want to get him out, it's this Tribal right here FWIW!
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Sheldor 4639 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 03:47 AM (EST)
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3. "S27: Ep.12 Rustle Feathers (Preview)" |
Survivor: Blood vs. Water - Rustle Feathers (Preview) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pBDolOC1CY
Published on Nov 27, 2013 Castaways try to find balance at a frustrating immunity challenge and a ruthless game of tug of war leads to an incredibly rare tribal council, on Survivor: Blood vs. Water, Wednesday, 8/7c. Only CBS Transcript Announcer: CBS Wednesday Jeff: We are deadlocked Announcer: For only the second time in Survivor history Jeff: Per the rules of Survivor... We'll draw rocks Announcer: Someone's fate comes down to a BLIND DRAW Jeff: White means you are going home, Black means you are safe. Everybody put out your palm... And reveal (fade to BLACK and GASPS) Jeff: There are no words that can top what just happened. This game is going to be a battle until the very end.
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11-28-13, 11:00 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: S27: Ep.12 Rustle Feathers (Preview)" |
You can tell by the shirts that two of the people holding out their wrists are Tyson and Katie. I Didn't see a 3rd fist. It's likely 3 of the votes are for Hayden. So who's the other target and who has immunity? If Ciera flips, it could be rookies vs. veterans, but why not target Tyson? Unless, the tie was a known outcome going in, and the rookies target Gervase or Monica to make sure Tyson can get rocked. That would mean either Gerv or Monica wins immunity and the other is a target.
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Sheldor 4639 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 12:51 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: S27: Ep.12 Rustle Feathers (Preview)" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-28-13 AT 12:52 PM (EST)From that preview video I believe Gervase has Immunity and those single views of Gervase are from another Tribal Council. In most of the group shots Monica is occluding Gervase's neck area from being seen but in the first distant group shot it looks like there might be something around his neck. If that's true, that means the third rock drawer is Ciera, Monica, or Hayden and the other two were the tie vote. That assumes no one found and played the Hidden Immunity Idol as that would reduce the number of people drawing rocks down to only two (Tyson and Katie) Highly unlikely but there also could have been a 2-2-2 tie, re-vote and 1-1-1 tie, and rock draw with 3 tied people safe, Immunity Challenge winner safe, and only 2 people drawing rocks.
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Georjanna 1316 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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11-28-13, 02:10 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: S27: Ep.12 Rustle Feathers (Preview)" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-28-13 AT 02:12 PM (EST)I agree with you, Sheldor. I think that Gervase has II. One way or another. And there is the possibility that the IN was passed from one Survivor to another and that's why we don't see it around anyone's neck in the creative clip. I don't think that Gervase would have risked his position in the Game by relying on the promise of a three-person vote to afford him immunity from the draw. Gervase, I think, would have bought into the plan only if his safety was guaranteed - going in. And I also think that Monica's body language excludes her. However her safety from the draw occurs. She sits immobile, with her hands clasped around her knees and looking to her right (away from the host), as JP approaches with the bag of rocks and walks past her and Gervase to stand in front of Ciera, Katie, Hayden and Tyson. She doesn't make any movement indicating her intention to participate. Her back doesn't straighten. She isn't 'following' his movement across the area. She doesn't unclasp her hands. Nothing about her posture says that she is anything other than an observer. And it is most plausible that Hayden was the recipient of the Tyson/Gervase or Ciera/Monica vote. And that fact would, ironically, make it all that much easier to sell his scheme. So, barring your well-reasoned caveats, I think that the rock-pickers are Ciera, Katie and Tyson.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 03:13 PM (EST)
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11. "good spec!" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-28-13 AT 04:18 PM (EST)Sheldor and Georgianna, I think you both are on the right track. I agree Georgianna that Monica is most likely excluded from the purple rock drawing. In addition to her not moving to open her arm to draw as Jiffy walks by, she also still has her hands extended and clasped as seen throughout the entire TC sequence, when Jiffy says, hold them out and reveal...you see Katie's hand extended and clasping a rock, and when you see Tyson's hand extended and clasping the rock, Monica's is still clasped together with her other hand....I really don't think she drew a rock at all. Here is the screen shot of the moment I am referring to, when we hear Jiffy say, Hold out your rocks... You can see Monica's hand is straight down as it was throughout the entire TC. So, there will be 3 peeps that are safe from the rock draw. The one with the IN, Gervase, and clearly he is the one with the necklace, imo. Hayden, who was most likely the target from Tyson's alliance, and then it appears that Monica was the other target, and most likely to force the rock draw that would definitely include Tyson. So, those most likely excluded from the rock draw: Gervase, Hayden, and Monica. Those that most likely have to draw: Katie, Tyson, and Cierra. ( I stand with Georgianna!) Great spec, everyone! And thanks for posting!
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11-28-13, 07:11 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
Just before Laura was voted out, we saw the tribe playing a game with rocks and we heard: Ciera looks happy, she's got the black rock." Can we say that it will happen exactly like that? If so then Ciera will pick the black rock, staying safe once more.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-01-13, 04:58 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
black...white...whats the difference, right?
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-28-13, 07:59 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
I guess RI is kinda predictable?The 3rd juror is... Caleb
No need to even parse source code for these giveaways. Sheesh. Ep 12 rundown: Post TC: Hayden begins anti-tyson campaignRI: Tina and Laura get themselves 3 more days on RI. Caleb becomes a juror. Ciera burns the clue again? Pre-IC: Hayden continues his anti-tyson campaign targeting Gervase for the cross-over vote. IC: Tyson wins Immunity. Post IC: With Tyson off the block, focus reverts to Hayden and Monica as the targets. Tyson will want to regain allegiance with Gervase and prove his trust with Monica. Maybe even test the promises Ciera gave to him. TC: For these people to actively participate in a "white rock" situation they are all going to have to think that it's what's best for their game. Neither Ciera nor Katie can switch. And they have to be voting differently than both Tyson and Gervase are. (Hayden-3 | Monica 3) Revote: Without Hayden and Monica: (Hayden-2 | Monica 2) Upon the tiebreak: Tyson, Katie and Ciera pull a rock out of a bag. Tyson's is black. One of the girls has a white one. Preview: One of the mothers will have to sacrifice their daughter to the buff-burner. My thought? Ciera is taught a valuable lesson in turning on her family too early.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-29-13, 08:56 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
Great spec there, Tribe. But, don't you think that Gervase wins the IC? Let's figure out who votes for who. You raised a good point. Ciera and Katie vote different people. So, Gervase does go on board with Hayden and votes Monica! Votes for Hayden: Tyson, Monica, Ciera Votes for Monica: Gervase, Hayden, and Katie I have to admit, this was a GREAT plan to knock Tyson down. Vote for Monica, stand firm, have Tyson go for the rocks. Wow! Hayden had nothing to lose by executing it. Also, he got Gervase to target Monica, I love that! Will be great to see the fall out after this TC! Can we exclude Tyson from picking the purple rock? I keep coming back to the quote he had at RI when Rachel was out...if I go to RI I will send you all to he!!...
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11-29-13, 01:15 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
If this is how it goes down, no wonder Gervase is getting the overlooked edit. What a way to throw away his game entirely. You make that move at 7, not 6.
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Sheldor 4639 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-01-13, 11:04 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
Interesting that CBS removed this preview from YouTube but they are running commercials this weekend with this same preview.I'm confused though, wouldn't a more straightforward simple result be: Votes for Hayden: Tyson, Gervase(Immunity), Monica, Votes for Monica: Hayden, Katie and Ciera Returnees vs Newbies. We know Tyson doesn't trust Ciera (he said so and played the HII last week). I believe the Next Time On scene of Hayden trying to get Gervase to turn on Tyson is a Red Herring. Newbies vote for Monica so that a tie will force Tyson to draw a rock since Gervase has Immunity and Monica would be part of the tie. Returnees vote for Hayden for calling out Tyson and trying to get him voted out. 33.3% chance of Newbies winning with Tyson drawing the White Rock. 66.6% chance of Returnees winning with either Katie or Ciera drawing the White Rock. Now that shocked response is obviously dubbed in but the most shocking result would be for Tyson to draw the White Rock when he had a 66.6% chance of the other two drawing the White Rock.
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Flowerpower 7262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-04-13, 09:17 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
I'm confused though, wouldn't a more straightforward simple result be:Votes for Hayden: Tyson, Gervase(Immunity), Monica, Votes for Monica: Hayden, Katie and Ciera. Returnees vs Newbies. We know Tyson doesn't trust Ciera (he said so and played the HII last week). I believe the Next Time On scene of Hayden trying to get Gervase to turn on Tyson is a Red Herring. Yes, it would appear more straightforward. But, Ciera has sworn alliegence to Tyson, despite Tyson not trusting her. Last week she told him that she will vote as he votes for the rest of the game. Clearly, after last week, we noted that Tyson did choose to vote with Cierra and against Hayden/Caleb. So, that tells us that he trusts her or at least is choosing to use her against Hayden this week. That's why I believe that Gervase, Hayden, and Katie will all vote for Monica. This was a great move on Hayden's part because he is able to employ Gervase to vote out his rival, Monica, while not directly voting out Tyson, but realizing that the purple rock could indeed get him out. It gives Gervase an excuse... Regardless, since Gervase has the IN, and Monica is the target, then ONLY Tyson is still there to draw rocks, the odds are 33% : 66% for him to draw the rock.
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Sheldor 4639 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-04-13, 03:24 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Web Promo Caps" |
Good points FP. However, in your scenario the re-vote would be:Votes for Hayden: Tyson and Ciera Votes for Monica: Katie and Gervase That gives the 66% advantage to team Gervase, Katie and Hayden since only Katie would be drawing. Why wouldn't Tyson or Ciera (or both) simply switch their vote to Monica to avoid that 66% chance that one of them will pull the White rock? Monica is a challenge beast and has been on the bottom of all voting discussions. In my scenario the re-vote is: Votes for Hayden: Tyson and Gervase Votes for Monica: Katie and Ciera Here I can see both sides willing to risk drawing rocks. That gives the 66% advantage team Tyson, Gervase and Monica since only Tyson would be drawing. I think Tyson would like 66% for him vs 66% against him in your scenario. Hayden, Katie, and Ciera would be willing to take the long shot 33% chance that Tyson draws the White Rock vs voting out Hayden (Katie would never vote for Hayden and Ciera would have flipped to vote with Hayden and Katie knowing a tie was inevitable so why would she flip yet again)
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Georjanna 1316 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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11-28-13, 06:07 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: S27: Ep.12 Vidcap Analysis *no sources*" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-28-13 AT 12:00 PM (EST) On May 31, 2010, Andy Dehnart published Survivor’s presumably-then-applicable Contestant Contract and Rules. And CBS demanded that the texts be removed from the Reality Blurred site. However, CBS having failed to pursue their claim of copyright infringement (and Mr. Dehnart having asserted that his was ‘Fair Use’ of the material), the content was restored to Reality Blurred in August of 2010. And there it remains. The Contract is here.
And the Rules are here. The Rule applicable to the ‘Purple Rock’ begins on Page 7 at 10 – vi. The ‘Full Screen’ button that makes reading the script so much easier is located at the bottom of the right-side, sliding bar. Note: These documents are peppered with the phrase "... at the producer's discretion", so just how relevant they are (or were) to discussions about what might happen at any given Tribal Council is (and was) questionable. Another Note: It isn't possible to copy and paste excerpts from these documents. I did screen print the text and then create a graphic of the 'Purple Rock' section. But although I'm rather confident that the horse has left the barn vis a vis the copyright or exclusivity of the material, I've decided not to post it here unless there is a request for me to do that. I think that it's going to be really interesting to see just how much of the procedure we are permitted to see. If what we see is anything at all like what we've read. And who of the six Survivors in the Tribal Council know(s) that not only are the two tied individuals immune from the draw, so too is the IC winner (per the Rules). Leaving only three ... G
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-01-13, 04:52 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: S27: Ep.12 Vidcap Analysis *no sources*" |
a mere 3 days later and this... put me down for thinking Hayden goes out, is sounding just sooo ... cute! ... I wanna pinch some cheeks.
Is there a charge for that?
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-01-13, 04:57 AM (EST)
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27. "by the waaaaayy..." |
and no. The irony of me playing the confident 10000+ Apollo-type towards the 56K DAWgoddess that is ST is not lost on my tiny testosterone-driven cranium. Wouldn't be the first time I puffed my pheathers at her.
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12-02-13, 05:10 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: by the waaaaayy..." |
phlirt I should be watched....closely.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-03-13, 04:32 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: by the waaaaayy..." |
In the most awkward way possible.
Gaw...she hasn't even responded yet. It's been 3 days. Oh I mean 1 day. Is it too early to phreak out about it?
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Sheldor 4639 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-03-13, 07:07 PM (EST)
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33. "S27: Ep.12 Challenge Promo "Ram-Ball On"" |
Challenge Promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkJqXR_BuaY
Published on Dec 3, 2013 Challenge Producer John Kirhoffer takes us behind-the-scenes for a first look at the challenge, 'Ram-Ball On,' featured on SURVIVOR: Blood vs. Water, Wednesday, December 4 on CBS. VoiceOver Transcript Jeff Probst: It is the rehearsal for "Ram-Ball On" based on the Zeppelin song. This is friends and family running this challenge today. We have 6 people. You have to balance a cue ball on the end of a stick, and then you have to make your way over a series of obstacles like this one. If you fall off, you have to go back to the start. Here's the coolest part of this. Once you've made your way through three of these obstacles, you'll come here, you'll place your cue ball right here and look what pops up, a key. _0001 _0002 _0003 _0004 _0005 _0006 _0007 _0008 _0009 _0010 _0011 _0012 _0013 _0014 _0015 _0016 _0017 _0018 _0019 _0020 _0021 _0022 _0023 _0024 _0025 _0026 _0027 _0028 _0029 _0030 _0031 _0032 _0033 _0034 _0035 _0036 _0037 _0038 _0039 _0040 _0041 _0042
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12-03-13, 08:26 PM (EST)
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34. "More Photos from SeeBS" |
CBS has posted these on Facebook:Redemption Island Challenge: Immunity Challenge Layout:
This is the Immunity Challenge:
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