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tagalong 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 04:36 PM (EST) "Iyanla" Hello, I have been watching Starting Over since day one.I tape it everyday. I am finding myself fast forwarding the tape everytime Iyanla comes on. I found her to be very harsh when she speaks to people she does not let those get a word in. I know this may sound harsh but I am truly not enjoying her advice at all,this season. If it were not for Rhonda I probably would not watch the show anymore.I started to feel this way about her toward the end of last the season and thought that she would make some changes,for the new Season. I hope to see her listen and be a little more compassionate with everyone and not just the ones she chooses to like.   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Iyanla Calee 09-26-05 1    RE: Iyanla lilN20 09-26-05 2  RE: Iyanla crazygroupiegirl 09-26-05 3    RE: Iyanla jolome 09-28-05 18  RE: Iyanla shelby2000 09-26-05 4  RE: Iyanla flower2 09-26-05 5    RE: Iyanla KaseyHailey 09-26-05 6        RE: Iyanla mightyriver 09-26-05 7            RE: Iyanla megpie 09-26-05 9        RE: Iyanla flower2 09-28-05 19  RE: Iyanla heartmatters 09-26-05 8    RE: Iyanla AHardyKelley 09-27-05 10  RE: Iyanla sh33na 09-27-05 11  RE: Iyanla nrgh43 09-27-05 12  RE: Iyanla kamille8 09-27-05 13  RE: Iyanla hitechgirl 09-27-05 14    RE: Iyanla Woo 09-28-05 15  RE: Iyanla Kozy 09-28-05 16  RE: Iyanla Doeskin 09-28-05 17    RE: Iyanla McQuiet 09-29-05 20        RE: Iyanla sh33na 09-29-05 21            RE: Iyanla slimgoody 09-29-05 22  RE: Iyanla jernadjez 09-29-05 23  RE: Iyanla penny81171 09-29-05 24  RE: Iyanla schumacher 09-29-05 25  RE: Iyanla TLake 09-29-05 26  RE: Iyanla Tookie 09-29-05 27    RE: Iyanla Shoe Diva 09-29-05 29  RE: Iyanla Butterfli000 09-29-05 28    RE: Iyanla Opuriah 09-30-05 30

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Calee 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 05:07 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Iyanla" >Hello, >I have been watching Starting Over >since day one.I tape it >everyday. >I am finding myself fast forwarding >the tape everytime Iyanla comes >on. >I found her to be very >harsh when she speaks to >people she does not let > those get a word >in. I know this >may sound harsh but I >am truly not enjoying her >advice at all,this season. >If it were not for Rhonda >I probably would not watch >the show anymore.I started to >feel this way about her >toward the end of last >the season and thought that >she would make some changes,for >the new Season. >I hope to see her listen >and be a little more >compassionate with everyone and not >just the ones she chooses >to like. I completely disagree, Iyanla simply doesn't sugarcoat her advice. These folks should know what they are in for when they sign up for the show. Excuses and explanations should be left behind. As Iyanla says "healing ain't always pretty"   Top

lilN20 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 05:50 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Iyanla" i think that iyanla speaks the truth and she doesn't sugar coat anything for you. I Also feel that, thats what the people come on the show for. was for someone to tell them the truth about themselfs even if it bad. and of course your not going to like hearing that from someone else but thats the truth. and if you can't take it you don't need to be on the show then.   Top

crazygroupiegirl 46 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-26-05, 06:23 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Iyanla" I agree to some degree. She needs to clue into each person's personality and talk on their level. Some people need to be yelled at and others need it to be spelled out for them to get it. If Iyanla talked to me like that, I would not be happy. Being yelled at doesn't get me to understand anything.   Top

jolome 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-28-05, 04:48 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Iyanla" Hello there, I am actually commenting on several posts. In the beginning I was put off by Iyanla's approach. However, after watching the show again I realized that there is a need for her way of working with people. People are different and I believe that's why the show has coaches with different styles. Iyanla can come off as "harsh." But guess what? Life can be harsh. Even with her approach it's evident that she does what she does with love and concern. And from what I can see it's done only when necessary. This show is not about wasting time and playing games. It's about getting the thing done so that people can live better and more fulfilling lives. I love Rhonda and Iyanla. The comment that another board member made about "Be a good day" is about being what it is you yourself are seeking. If you are seeking love, be loving, if you are seeking understanding be understanding yourself. If you are seeking a good day, be what you can be to cause others to experience a good day. Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion.   Top

shelby2000 39 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-26-05, 07:15 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Iyanla" OMG! I do the same thing when I watch the tapes of SO. I am a huge fan of Rhonda's and I don't think I would watch it if she wasn't on. It's not that Iyanla is a bad LC or isn't awesome, it's that my personality that gels more with someone like Rhonda. I did however, enjoy the relationship Iyanla had with Jennifer from last season. She never let Jennifer give up and "made" her work through her issues. I particularly loved it when she tried, for the longest, to get Jennifer to face her anger by hitting that anger block with a bat one evening. All the ladies had a turn and were all successful at expressing their anger, except Jennifer. Once Jennifer broke down and cried, Iyanla cried and hugged her really tight. She told Jennifer she couldn't change what happened to her as a child, but that if she could she would and she was sorry Jennifer had to go through what she did as a child. I especially loved it when Iyanla had Sinae, Towanda and Josie act as Jennifer's family and stand in a circle around her. Jennifer's assignment was to tell her family how angry she was with them. It was great! Afterwards, Iyanla held Jennifer on her lap and cuddled her like she was six. Iyanla was being very tender, caring and motherly. Although, Rhonda is my favorite, I still think Iyanla is great.   Top

flower2 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 07:37 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Iyanla" I find Iyanla to be very effective. Unfortunately, some people can't take her in your face style. Unlike Rhonda, she says what she thinks and what people REALLY need to hear! Great job IV!   Top

KaseyHailey 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 09:23 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Iyanla" >I find Iyanla to be very >effective. Unfortunately, some people can't >take her in your face >style. Unlike Rhonda, she says >what she thinks and what >people REALLY need to hear! >Great job IV! Its not her in your face style I dislike...its her insane way of calling all the people By Miss or Mr..Miss Kayce, MR Simon, Mr Lou, Miss Jennifer....I have to turn it off when she comes on and starts that Miss and Mr crap!!   Top

mightyriver 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 09:31 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Iyanla" Miss KaseyHailey, it is a real Southern thing to refer to another as Miss or Mister. Also a sign of respect to do so. Suggestion, don't go South.   Top

megpie 129 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 10:31 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Iyanla" I am from the South East and we are taught to call people Miss or Mr. also. A form of respect. We also say Thank you and You are Welcome. I have also taught my kids to do the same and now I am teaching my small Grandchildren. Just something that is second nature to me and mine. Iyanla is a great LG's, she knows when to be rough and when to be gentle. JMO   Top

flower2 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-28-05, 08:55 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Iyanla" It drives me crazy also. As far as her using it as a means of respecting people, it's interesting that she didn't respect anyone last season. Maybe it's something she developed over the summer. It can also be used to be sarcastic. Not sure of IVs motives.   Top

heartmatters 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-26-05, 09:31 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Iyanla" I agree, I think she's being way to hard on Jacklyn. It seems Jackyln's the only one wrong in the relationship, even though Michael had cheated on her. Could be the editing though. However Iyanla's advice is far better than "whats her name" from the first season. Sry can't remember her name. She played favorites & gave BAD advice. IMHO I hope the new season with the ladies is a bit lighter this year too. They need to have more fun.   Top

AHardyKelley 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-27-05, 00:02 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Iyanla" Outstanding!! Job well done as usual Iyanla. Your patience, caring and persistence in repecting the housemates is praiseworthy. Your unyeilding directness is often mistaken for being to harsh or unfeeling, however I see and understand it to be a very real, genuine and a honest way of dealing with the life challenges that has these housemates in flux. I love the way you speak to, advise, and guide them with true understanding. If it were possible, I would love to be a housemate myself, being a single parent of seven children! Yes, seven children; (2 biological and 5 adopted)but it would be very difficult, needless to say, to get the time away. I will continue to watch your marvelous work as well as Rhonda and dear Dr. Stan whom I also greatly enjoy and appreciate. Keep up the very good work and you are very much appreicated.   Top

sh33na 451 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 09-27-05, 01:02 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Iyanla" I think Iyanla is a better LC than Rhonda. I appreciate her style. She has the ability to hone in on what can be worked on and how she should speak to each person. That is a skill that comes from somewhere other than "school." "There's a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in." _Leonard Cohen   Top

nrgh43 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-27-05, 01:47 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Iyanla" I don't agree with you. Iyanla is the LC and she means them no harm. Sometime the truth hurts and you have to go throught the pain to get to the other side. I think she is doing a great job. It is best to get to the point and not waste time grazing around it.   Top

kamille8 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-27-05, 06:48 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Iyanla" I love Iyanla and her style what does irritate me sometimes is some of her new age spiritual mumbo jumbo. When she says be a good day I want to vomit. But all in all I love when she tough on people. She reminds me of Dr. Phil. See the problem is everybody now a days is so sensitive she's telling it like it is. That's what these people need there a bunch of cry babies anyway.   Top

hitechgirl 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 09-27-05, 08:06 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Iyanla" stay the way you are Iyanla,,,this shallow world needs you!   Top

Woo 87 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 09-28-05, 10:14 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Iyanla" I love Iyanla. She could be my LC any day of the week. I love that fact that she tells it like it is. She will get to the meat of the matter. I like that. Rhonda sugar coated la-dee-la approach is enough to drive me to drink.   Top

Kozy 17 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 09-28-05, 01:48 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Iyanla" Hi tagalong, At first, during last season I didn't know if I was going to like Iyanla either. But I've grown to respect her insight, her strength in not allowing the women (and the men, in this case) to run over her. She is much more mature than that other girl was in Chicago (can't even remember her name) who allowed Rain to run the show. Iyanla has great compassion and I belive she truly enjoys helping people. Sometimes you gotta be tough and Iyanla has the guts and the gusto that it takes deal with people in crisis. ~Kozy in Chicago   Top

Doeskin 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-28-05, 03:27 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Iyanla" I love Iyanla's style! She is succinct and strong when she speaks. Sometimes people need to be brought back to Earth when they get caught up in their own "stuff" and I feel she is very effective in doing so. Sure gets my attention when she speaks! I admire that kind of power in people who are fighting for the greater good in people. I feel it allows them to get beyond the surface. Maybe I am difficult person, but Rhonda's style would feel patronizing to me. Guess that's why it's good to have both types of LC on the show - people respond to different strategies.   Top

McQuiet 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 01:31 AM (EST) 20. "RE: Iyanla" LAST EDITED ON 09-29-05 AT 01:33 AM (EST) She's got her good points - - - but she bugs the everlovin' crap out of me. Who knows why. Some people you click with right away, others you grow to love, and still others - well they just annoy you like a bad rash. (I was responding to the overall messages and not the one above in particular. Have to figure out how to work my postings).   Top

sh33na 451 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 09-29-05, 07:59 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Iyanla" Welcome to the boards! "There's a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in." _Leonard Cohen   Top

slimgoody 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 12:23 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Iyanla" Hello everyone, I don't really like Iyanla's style either. Maybe because the previous L.C. (Rana) had a less in your face approach and she listened and allowed the women to get their frustrations out. Iyanla just seems so impatient.   Top

jernadjez 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 03:02 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Iyanla" Iylana isn't harsh, she tells it how it is and sometimes that may come off as being harsh, but they are not in the house to hear things put in a gentle and sugar coating way...some people just don't respond to that. Iylana, although strong with her words, is also just as compassionate when she knows there has been a breakthrough, so I think that is a little unfair for her to be judged as such.   Top

penny81171 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 03:12 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Iyanla" I so agree with you. I can't stand to hear her talk sometimes. She talks too much.   Top

schumacher 28 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-29-05, 03:39 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Iyanla" I also completely disagree with you. Iyanla tells it like it is, and some people are put off by that. To which, I say: To damn bad! Some people like to be talked to in a mush-mouth, nambe-pambe, wimpy manner. That's not Iyanla. As others have said, Iyanla doesn't sugar-coat what she says. Also, she has enormous compassion and humanity and she will not let anything slide, as I've seen with the couples. Iyanla is one of the main reasons I love Starting Over. The original poster said that he/she is not enjoying Iyanla's advice this season. I find that a rather broad statement to make. You've not gotten anything helpful from her? Hmmmm. Interesting.   Top

TLake 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 04:03 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Iyanla" I think that she is speaking the truth - and usually has a good reason for acting a certain way. I've gotten a lot out of the comments by Iyanla and Rhonda this year - THANKS LADIES! Your honesty is helping all of us!   Top

Tookie 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 05:08 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Iyanla" I think that's why she's a successful life coach. She cuts through the BS with heart of the matter insights. It may seem harsh, but it's effective. Of course people don't like it, healing isn't necessarily fun to see the truth about yourself.   Top

Shoe Diva 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 07:40 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Iyanla" Agree. I feel Iyanla is very insightful and sincere in her coaching techniques. No amount of scripting or editing can portray that. I'm an SO viewer from the Chicago beginnings w/Rana & Rhonda. I could appreciate their different coaching styles but I feel Iyanla has been a welcome addition to SO and much more effective as a life coach.   Top

Butterfli000 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 09-29-05, 05:39 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Iyanla" I'd have to disagree with you. I think she needs to be that way, otherwise some people just won't get it. It's tough love. She sees right through their manipulation. She has to be straight out that way to help them make a break threw. It's exactly what they need. Someone who isn't going to sugar coat things. And, get straight to the problem.   Top

Opuriah 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-30-05, 01:48 AM (EST) 30. "RE: Iyanla" ....Are you kiddin' me? I think Iyanla Rocks!! honestly, without her, I would not watch the show. The other LC's are good, but different styles for different folks. Variety, remember IS the spice of life! thanks for welcoming me to the board   Top

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