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chaines 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-21-05, 03:02 PM (EST) "The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" I loved it today when IV asked Ally if she ever considered what childbirth does to a womans body. Having three boys all of which where over 10 lbs. I can tell you that my body is destroyed, not to mention three c-sections and boobs that look like fried eggs hanging on a nail. Not too pretty....That said maybe Ally should watch Adoption Stories and be grateful that we live in a time when single women can adopt a child quite easily. However, in order to be a good mom she needs to be a 'bit less self-absorbed!!!   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... SOinEden 10-21-05 1  RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... sneakpeek 10-21-05 2  RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... GreenSideUp 10-21-05 3    RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... silverlongjohns 10-21-05 4        RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... chaines 10-21-05 5            RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... SOinEden 10-21-05 6                RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... Cleverone 10-21-05 8                    RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... GreenSideUp 10-23-05 11  RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... AngelFromValhalla 10-21-05 7    RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... Busybee 10-21-05 9  RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... Devlynne 10-23-05 10    RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on th... chaines 10-23-05 12

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SOinEden 157 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-21-05, 03:17 PM (EST) 1. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" I Dr. Stan said it to her. I totally agree, I had three girls naturally, but during the second pregnancy I had an emergency appendectomy, I was five monthes along, back then they didn't do the laser so I had stitches and staples, and a stretching belly. Everything turned out fine,,, but it left alot of stretched skin and scars.   Top

sneakpeek 120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-21-05, 03:43 PM (EST) 2. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" LOL I know what you mean. I had twins, both over 7lbs by c-section. I got an infection when they were a week old. My milk had come in and they didn't want me to nurse so they gave me something to dry up my milk fast. Two fried eggs hanging a nail would look better on my chest than what I have.   Top

GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-21-05, 05:14 PM (EST) 3. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" I get the impression Allison has lived a very antiseptic life and that she would start feeling deformed no matter what.   Top

silverlongjohns 40 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-21-05, 05:24 PM (EST) 4. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" I don't necessarily agree that childbirth destroys your body. Certainly it can, but not always. I had 3 good sized babies and was very comfortable in a bikini afterwards and my d-i-l has had 3 babies in less that 18 months (twins when the first was only 16 mos) and she's as thin as a rake. I also think there's no possible way that Allison could have had such an epiphany(sp?) after a few hours with a baby. Most people could easily take a baby in and love it, but many will never get over not having given birth. I noticed there was little reaction from Allison when Jill said she was unable to have children. I would have thought there would be more dialogue but much could have been edited.   Top

chaines 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-21-05, 06:06 PM (EST) 5. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" LAST EDITED ON 10-21-05 AT 06:10 PM (EST) I didn't mean that childbirth ruins every womans body, however, there are many contributing factors involved as well. Maternal age at time of birth, spacing of children, whether you nurse or not, sleep deprivation, genetic predisposition for stretch marks, etc. I was 32 when the first came, 34 second and 35 with the third, in my case, being in my 30's and having 3 boys, three and one half years to the day between my oldest and youngest with one in the middle had an effect on my body. For the better part of 6 years I was either pregnant and/or nursing one of my three boys. I also had boys that did not sleep, all three of them were well past age 3 before they slept thru the night. Some women are Wonder Woman, I however, was not. It took a few good years before my body even got close to being normal, and then peri-menopause hit!!!! Also, you can be "thin as a rake" and still look like @#!?&*. Being thin doesn't necessitate being fit and looking good in either clothes or a bathing suit. I would give my right arm to have my boobs put back in their original place, can't afford it right now. My main reason for posting originally was to make note that Ally is always thinking that because of her cancer that her body is a mess and no man will ever love or want her. ALLY that process begins with self-love. No matter what you or your body looks like, a man will be attracted to you if you love yourself.   Top

SOinEden 157 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-21-05, 06:10 PM (EST) 6. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" Chaines I totally got your point.   Top

Cleverone 759 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 10-21-05, 07:57 PM (EST) 8. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" >Chaines I totally got your point. > Me too...Me too...after having kids and other body dismorphic surgeries.. I have unsightly scars and my lap has a lap (LOL)and I still have a man who cares for me and he doesn't even see them.... so it doesn't have to be cancer to make us all feel a bit deformed, but you have to deal with what you've got. I do feel for her never giving birth, but if it was like mine...she should be glad. The real joy (IMO) comes not from birthing babies, but in loving them afterwards, watching them grow into beautiful human beings and to know that you played some signifcant part in all of that...after watching Allison today with that beautiful little Rylie...I do believe she understands that joy...you don't have to physically carry a baby to love it and somehow I finally thinks she "Gets It". **************************** "I walk in my own shoes..." ****************************   Top

GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-23-05, 12:11 PM (EST) 11. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" I have a man like that too but he wasn't my first husband. Just want y'all to know they DO exist!   Top

AngelFromValhalla 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-21-05, 07:34 PM (EST) 7. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" I've never had children. Wished I had, but don't. I do however have 3 God children I wouldn't trade for the world. I've been with them since they were newborns. For me, it's just like having my own. Unfortunately their Grandma makes it sometimes difficult for me to feel part of their lives, but I digress. The bad thing about adoption is it's costly. Need for approval. On and on and on. My house is very old, I don't have a 5 figure salary of $50,000.00 a year. I more than likely don't qualify. My boyfriend feels he can't have kids because he used to do some drugs when he was a teenager. Also my doctor believes I have Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. Basically a "bi-product" of being a Type 2 Diabetic. It may be possible to get pregnant because the day I met my boyfriend online is the same day I started my cycles after not having them for 8-12 years. Talk about in a panic! I'm 37 and thought I could be possibly internally hemorraging! I felt stupid and didn't want to go to the E.R. and have them make fun of me. Miracles may never cease to happen! LOL   Top

Busybee 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-21-05, 09:03 PM (EST) 9. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" AngelFromValhalla, I know exactly how you feel. The doctor's think I also have PCOS. For a while I was on Clomiphine and Metformin (for insulin resistance), but that didn't work. Now, I can't even aford the medication, and the costs and qualifications of adoption also make it impossible for me to adopt. Some ppl just think it's so easy when they say.."You can always adopt." But this just isn't true for some. I also actually went to the ER for what I thought was hemorraging, lol...I can laugh about it now, but at the time it really wasn't funny. Keep your head up. It's really good that you have started your cycles again. At least were not in Allison's position...she really has no hope of a biological child. I think that's so sad and she doesn't realize yet the impact that means. One day it's gonna hit her and she will need a lot of help for her to deal with it.   Top

Devlynne 154 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-23-05, 09:06 AM (EST) 10. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" November is National Adoption Month! Tragically more than 126,000 children in the United States were waiting to be adopted in 2001 and some of them and more since then are still waiting. In 1980 The Adoption Assistance and Welfare Act was passed to help defray the costs of adoption and medical care, but mostly so that more children would have a chance to have permanent homes and families. Adoption assistance is available in the form of subsidies through the State or Federal government. Also adoptive parents may be eligible to receive a monthly maintenance payment until the child turns 18. These type of adoptions cost anywhere from $0 to $2500 and qualify adoptive parents for tax credits. Unfortunately these are children with 'special needs’ and too many people are only willing to consider adopting an infant and at that only one of their own ethnicity. You might ask yourself, "So what are these 'special needs' anyway?" Well they are children who cannot or should not be returned home to their parents, who agencies have attempted to place unsuccessfully, and who have a factor or condition (defined by each State) that qualifies them as special needs. These factors and conditions include but are not limited to ethnicity, age, siblings, and medical, physical, or emotional conditions. Of the 126,000 children waiting to be adopted at the end of 2001, just over 81,000 of them were under the age of five. For more information on various forms of adoption, visit NAIC!   Top

chaines 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-23-05, 01:47 PM (EST) 12. "RE: The Ravages of Childbirth on the Body!!" Thanks for the great post and the great information......It really dispels the myth that adoption is so costly and not available to everyone that wants to adopt.....It is my understanding that the people that complain the most about the cost and how they are not an ideal candidate for being an adoptive parent(s) are the ones that want a "flawless" child, whatever "flawless" is in their eyes, usually not the "special needs" children that you are speaking of.   Top

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