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"S24E4, Title and Teases, "Bum-Puzzled""
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"S24E4, Title and Teases, "Bum-Puzzled"" |
Episode Title: "Bum-Puzzled"
Airs Wednesday, March 7, 8 pmAs posted by Volcanic Glass. Please put all misdirection clues and Jeff's Tout tease here. Thanks. Here is the tout as posted by Jasaonkola: A first at TC, a game changer.....one of the most unexpected things that I've ever seen happen! Thoughts: I speculate that the shuffle may be in episode 5 now, and that the guys turmoil noted in the preview promo is misdirection. I speculate that the girls will go to TC next week, and so one of them will do something very unexpected....perhaps the target will be one girl, and another girl will suddenly sacrifice herself instead....food for thought? Most at risk: Monica, but I have to admit that Chelsea is a slim possibility as well, because she is not clearly seen, it is only a presumption that it is indeed her standing with the Manono group to Jiffy's right in the water basketball challenge. Can't help but to note: Chelsea was all over the third episode, a confessional spike. She is in the preview promo as a candidate for the OFG theory. Don't get me wrong, I am far more convinced that Monica will be the boot, but I have to note that Chelsea is an outside shot. Food for thought.
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1. "RE: S24E4, Title and Teases, "Bum-Puzzled"" |
I'm with you that Monica is the most likely boot from the ladies' side. Chelsea is an interesting thought, though, and one more potential strike against her is that she was shown discussing the idea of going against her alliance mate Kat in episode 2, so what if this was showcased as a possible boot reason in that the alliance turns on Chelsea for being untrustworthy - Kim/Alicia/Kat/Sabrina still have the numbers on their side (they don't know if a swap will ever happen).
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2. "RE: S24E4, Title and Teases, "Bum-Puzzled"" |
Chelsea certainly did have a spike, but my thought was that she has a big part to play in the season and her story was starting to be highlighted.I thought it was interesting how the women were tethered together, presumably they picked partners. Monica and Christina, the two remaining who were not with the %.
Kat and Alicia, the two party girls who've had a bond.
Kim and Chelsea, the two I think of as practical and sensible. Sabrina, the elected leader, as caller. Point being, I think that Kim and Chelsea are natural partners in this group.
As for TC, Christina should still be on the chopping block. We know she makes it to the swap, but something must go down to put anyone ahead of her. Monica is strong and she gets along. Alicia can't stand Christina.
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3. "RE: S24E4, Title and Teases, "Bum-Puzzled"" |
Without any more footage, this one is really hard to figure out.We do know that the sling-shot challenge must happen in the next epiaode. If the swap happens in the episode 4, then it must happen after the RC but before the IC. They have never done that before but with both tribes living together they might do that since everyone has gotten some time to know each other and allowing acclimation to a new tribe isn't an issue as it is in earlier seasons when there was a swap and the tribes lived at separate camps. The episode title could indicate that the IC may involve a puzzle that the women can't solve but it could also be referring to Bill blowing a big lead on the puzzle in the last episode. Food for thought - maybe someone finds the Salani idol. Given that the Manono idol was found so quickly, you would have expected that someone would have found the other idol by now.
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4. "RE: S24E4, Title and Teases, "Bum-Puzzled"" |
Further food for thought is that the surprise at TC might involve the Salani idol having been found and nobody else knew it and the camera crews missed it too or the editors edited out its finding.
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5. "Jeff's tout" |
Jasonkola posted a link to Jeff's tout over in the vidcap thread. Anyone up to doing a quick summary of what he said or a mini-transcript? My ears don't work... 
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7. "RE: Jeff's tout" |
Pepe, the tout is the bolded part of FloPo's original post.
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8. "RE: Jeff's tout" |
?? I saw Jiffy's video (even if I didn't understand it) and it seemed to go on longer than simply what was listed in the one line in FloPo's original post. So I thought there must be more to it than just that one line.
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43. "RE: Jeff's tout" |
Thanks, Abby! I had this feeling there was more to it than just what was in there in the original post. The buffs were nagging at me when I saw Jiffy flipping them around.
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6. "E4 Press release" |
CBS Press release for E4------------------------
03.01.2012 AN UNFORGIVABLE BETRAYAL FORCES ONE TRIBE TO MAKE A DRASTIC MOVE THAT WILL GO DOWN IN SURVIVOR HISTORY, ON "SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD,” WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7 CHEAT TWEET: In 24 seasons we’ve never seen this! 1 tribe makes a move that’ll go down in #Survivor history Wed, March 7 @ 8pmET/PT http://bit.ly/y8BVEw "Bum-Puzzled" — An unforgiveable betrayal forces one tribe to make a drastic move that has never been done before in Survivor history, and an electrifying Tribal Council leaves several castaways speechless, on SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD, Wednesday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
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10. "RE: E4 Press release" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-12 AT 07:27 PM (EST)Wow, this is starting to sound good! an unforgivable betrayal...we heard Greg note something along those lines at first in the promo....he walked over to the girls side and he said..."we have a betrayal". Clearly it is the men who are indeed up in arms. One of the guys has betrayed the majority....someone said something to the girls tribe? Or, the girls are conspiring with the traitor? Tarzan goes on to note, "it's such an egregious breach of faith". What could it be...Jay comments that's a hasty decision...Jonas is flabergasted....Got be be regarding Colton....but who else? Bill was defending the one that they think is the betrayer....We heard him tell Colton in the Colton promo... Colton (talking to Bill): I'm gonna go tell. Colton (camera confessional): I won't backstab anyone.
If I want to stab them I will backstab them in the face. Bill (pointing his finger at Colton): You don't sit here and talk
to people however you want to, dude. Colton (camera confessional): I can be scary when i need to be. Clearly, it has to be one of the men....that has made the unforgivable betrayal, that forces them to make a drastic move....this has got to be Colton who will be very dramatic....but, if Bill is trying to pacify him or confront him in defense of the betrayer, than the betrayer must not be Bill. Is it Troyzan? Is it Michael? Would they be betraying the men to the different alliances on Manono, OR, is it betraying the whole tribe to Salani? Since we see Tarzan, Jay, Jonas, Colton, Bill all reacting to the betrayer, then the betrayer must be one of Michael, Leif, or Troyzan....??? When Colton notes, I told you to pick a side and you picked the wrong side... he is talking across from Leif...note Leif's tatoo on his arm... 
Could Colton be pissed at Leif for a betrayal of some kind? The way the clues are written I think the unforgivable betrayal will force the men to make a drastic move, while the electrifying TC will be the women....Christina will ignite? We saw them go at each other, now it will be worse? What will be the drastic move that has never been made? Are they going to kick someone out of their shelter? Give someone the silent treatment? What?
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16. "RE: E4 Press release" |
The side that Colton is referring to has to be voting out Matt so the one that picked the wrong side is Micheal who voted against Bill.No, this can not be it. Why would Colton or any of the misfits be mad that one of the muscle alliance voted against another in the muscle alliance. And, Colton would know that Matt voted for him....that wouldn't be surprising... neither of those scenarios would be a betrayal....let alone an egregious one... It has to do with whoever Colton is talking to when he notes, "I told you to pick a side and you picked the wrong one..." It has to be one of Leif, Troyzan, or Michael....but I don't think it is Michael, because he was never "with" them. So, I am down to Troyzan or Leif, perhaps...
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Colton is acting so powerful. I wander if he pissed his alliance off and they turned on him.
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27. "RE: E4 Press release" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-02-12 AT 09:40 AM (EST)I think that these pictures... 
....when we hear Colton say, "I told you to pick a side and you picked the wrong one..."
PRECEDE this... 
...when we hear Bill (pointing his finger at Colton): You don't sit here and talk
to people however you want to, dude. Clearly, Bill is reacting to something Colton has just said to someone else...I think that could be a picture of Jay sitting there as witness to what is going down with Bill and Colton....who we hear later respond to Colton and Jonas, "that was a hasty decision"....Jay was a witness to whatever Colton said....? Edited to add: I also like what Karchita suggested....that perhaps someone, ?Leif? or ?Troyzan? may have found the idol, and disposed of it prior to discussion with the entire group. Let's go one step further, who would they give the idol to? Well, when Tarzan enters the girls camp, he notes, We have a betrayal...who does the camera focus on... 
Chelsea. She also had a big jump in confessionals last episode, and I think there is a story starting to unfold....perhaps it was a lead in, IF, she were to indeed get an idol? Food for thought.
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OFG: Yes, Colton and Greg, really more Greg/Tarzan convinced Jay to join them, and choose sides, and Jay DID! He chose sides, so, it can't be him, he did not betray that alliance. To me, it appears that Colton is talking to Leif...but, we don't know if Troyzan is there too?Also, I don't think it's Jay that is the focus of Colton's wrath, because we see later that Colton and Jonas are discussing it with Jay, who seems to have been a witness, and when they ask him about their decision, he notes, "that was a hasty decision", to them. Jay seems to have been a witness, not the target of the wrath...imho...
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19. "RE: E4 Press release" |
What if there is a big cat fight at TC afterwards they all vote Jiffy out.
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26. "RE: E4 Press release" |
Good to see the ideas thrown out. If we brainstorm enough we will hit it. Thinking of ways the idol could be involved is a good start.Sabrina didn't ask the other women whether she could give it to Colton, did she? She just did it. She didn't seem to show them the HII or tell them the rules. I think she has been looking for the other idol a lot (per Nina or Kourtney). Would the men really expect absolute disclosure to the whole group?
Hard to say. The men seem to think a lot about which one of them the women will like more. Matt and Jonas both mentioned it in Insider. They seem to assume the women might be interested in handing some guy the game. (This is not S22, and I don't think so.) I noticed Alicia confirming that she is still down on Monica and Christina. Some Of Us Did Good (Ep 3 Insider) Alicia boasts about her and Kat's performance in the immunity challenge. "We won the challenge today, and I'm probably the only one that's like (looks unsure). Monica, Monica. You did - what did you do?" "You couldn't even get through it. I got 2 bags back, and Kim and Chelsea back. Monica and Christina, you better be praying to sweet baby Jesus that we aren't going to Tribal Council today, because one of you would have gone home." "When I was with Kat, we rocked it out. She was leading me. I also unhooked the puzzle pieces." "It was awesome being able to get the puzzles out of the bucket. I mean, Kat really showed herself today. She was the one who was leading me, for once. I was really proud of her today. It also helped her boost up her self-esteem to know that she can do this." "I'm proud of me and Kat, and I can't say much about Christina and Monica."
______ So it seems that Alicia is still on course to boot one of those two. Kat would be with her. Sabrina, Chelsea, Kim are the ones who might see the wisdom of letting Cat go strictly in terms of challenges. However, in terms of loyalties, if there is a swap or a merge, Christina and Monica have been chatting up Jonas we noticed, and they are two who could seek to hook up with the misfits. So keeping Kat around is probably better if they expect a shake-up. As Flo-po and VG and Blind Freddy and others have worked out, Monica is the one to go if they don't swap this time. CBS, please give us challenge promos!
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32. "RE: E4 Press release" |
OFG noted...CBS, please give us challenge promos!Well, with the new promo, I think that the unforgiveable betrayal that is forcing the Manono's to make a drastic move boils down to the men winning the food reward, and Leif, perhaps, smuggling some of it to the girls. We hear Jonas say, "This is a huge move." I think they are targeting Leif. Also, in the interview with webby, Matt noted that everyone in the Manono tribe was on board with not sharing anything at all with the girls except for Leif...he said, The only person that I think wasn't there was Leif. I mean, he was pretty sensitive to what they were going through, and I think that's pretty cool, but for the most part, I think the guys were like, "That's your opponent. Let's not help them." So, it appears as if the guys may have won the reward, Leif has smuggled some of it to the girls, and now they are making a move of some kind....are they going to kick him out? I noted in the vidcap thread that Leif is not tied to anyone....I think Troy/Bill or Jonas are together, Jay and Michael are tied together, and Gregzan and Colton are tied. But, Leif is alone....Could he be a caller, and Jonas is sitting out? I am eager to find out what the big move that's never happened before is...
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33. "RE: E4 Press release" |
Maybe the guys kick him out and the girls are allowed to adopt him via a special TC.
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34. "RE: E4 Press release" |
I think Troy and Jonas targeting Leaf is not a huge move. I suspect they may be plotting something much bigger. Wouldn't it be great if the tribe made Leaf the target only to vote out Colton. That would be awesome. Of coarse that plan would never take place if the girls are the next to go to TC fallowed by the switch.
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LAST EDITED ON 03-03-12 AT 10:55 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 03-03-12 AT 10:17 AM (EST) Jason: I like where you are going with this. I agree, I think there is more here than meets the eye. I love that you suggest Troyzan and Jonas may think of a way to target someone out of the blue - Lief, for sharing with the girls - exploit Gregzan for all it's worth, then turn around and boot Colton. We see how Colton seems to be swallowing it, hook, line, and sinker.... "If someone can't see that I'm in control, they must be Helen Keller..." So, we don't see Troy/Jonas hatch the plan, but we do see this... 
When Jonas notes, "This is a huge move!" Then, Colton goes for it, and shares it with Jay... 
Who comments that, "That's a hasty move"... Then, they must share it with Gregzan, who runs away with it, and calls a conference with them all there...target: Lief. I wonder if Leif could be in on it? Regardless, Troy and Jonas set the wheel in motion to blindside Colton, get rid of him and his idol... I love it, and it could be quite plausible! Well done, Jason!
ETA: As we know, the men won't have to go to fruition with it this week, because they win the IC. Next week is the tribal shuffle...I do smell the beginning of the end with Colton....he is showing WAY too much arrogance, and that is ALWAYS a recipe for disaster. Just ask Matt!  ETAA: The more I think about this, the more I like it. Troy and Jonas could definitely be the origin of the deception. They could carry around that cloth bag, that came with the reward, perhaps, and say they found it at the girls tribe with crumbs in it....and then they blame it all on Leif, when in actuality, it was a plant. That's why the girls react with, "the guys have lost their marbles", because they know that no one gave them any food. Anyway, Jonas and Troy take the planted evidence to Colton, and the story unfolds....Colton goes to Jay and explains it, then it goes on from there. All the while, it's a ploy to get Colton to believe that they are all on board with a Leif boot, while in actuality he will be booted along with his HII! Love it! Kind of bummed that the guys don't lose the IC....I like Monica alot more than Colton...
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36. "Misdirection Clues" |
As posted by Blind Freddy: AN UNFORGIVABLE BETRAYAL FORCES ONE TRIBE TO MAKE A DRASTIC MOVE THAT WILL GO DOWN IN SURVIVOR HISTORY, ON "SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD,” WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7CHEAT TWEET: In 24 seasons we’ve never seen this! 1 tribe makes a move that’ll go down in #Survivor history Wed, March 7 @ 8pmET/PT http://bit.ly/y8BVEw "Bum-Puzzled" — An unforgiveable betrayal forces one tribe to make a drastic move that has never been done before in Survivor history, and an electrifying Tribal Council leaves several castaways speechless And, Jiffy's tout tease: A first at TC, a game changer.....one of the most unexpected things that I've ever seen happen! I think we are well on our way to figuring out the unforgivable betrayal that forces one tribe to make a drastic move that will go down in Survivor history. Now it's time to work on: 1. An electrifying TC that leaves several castaways speechless.
2. A first at TC, a game changer, one of the most unexpected things that I've ever seen happen. Considering #2, could JIffy mean that "a first at TC", and THEN, the game changer, one of the most unexpected things that he's ever seen happen...? Could he possibly be referring to both tribes here? Christina seems to be the one that is most loathed, as per Alicia. Will Christina do something that throws poor Monica under the bus?
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37. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
Well, that's some mighty big hype, it surely is.  We've seem people thrown under the bus many many times, if that were it then it would have to be a new and unusual way in which it is done. We can maybe stew up some ideas about that, but for the moment I have none. We've seen a few times people imploding their own games, there only seems to be one way to do that and that is to just do it. And it should be someone with a reasonably good game to implode. Alliance uncertainty, disintigration? With five in and two on the outs the five can each vote however they want picking from the designated two, they are assured of having at least three votes on one of the two. This would allow the two on the outs to join forces, try to target one member of the alliance to throw under the bus, work it as hard as they can at TC. Alicia and Kat would both be vulnerable to that sort of attack, perhaps incapable of defending themsevles, but in this it is always the stronger liklihood that the alliance holds together. one of the most unexpected things that I've ever seen happen Unexpected to Jeff? Salani gang up and decide to vote out Tarzan? Salani work out a prisoner exchange, give Manono Christina in return for Leif? Mystery Salani HII ploy?
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40. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
How do you know that is in their contract? I am pretty sure they are allowed to wander about searching for food and the Idol ect.
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45. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
I don't see what purpose that would serve other than making a further walk between the two shelters, the players camp has established boundaries they have to remain within. Still, hype usually turns out to be just hype, so I won't exclude that entirely.In the initial season the two tribe camps abutted one another and members of the two tribes occasionally ran into one another, were able to share information. Afterwards that was corrected so that couldn't happen, though in Thailand the two tribes shared a camp during the faux merge, and in whatever season it was everyone was in the same camp for the first night before tribes were picked. Possibly the men and women draw a line in this season's One World players camp, Salani stays on this side, Manono stays on this side, no one crosses the line ever more, they recreate traditional Survivor standards against the One World objective, take, players take precedence over production. O the humanity. But it changes the game forever, the players are taking control over production.
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46. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
Here's the stab at the clues I posted at MESS.
____I love all the brainstorming. At the same time, it might be time to see what really fits the clues. What can we propose that really works within the teaser? We have Jeff's tout and press release. IME, the big thing of the episode is going to be stemming from one event, not multiples, and the tout and the treaser are about the same thing. A first at TC, a game changer, and one of the most unexpected things that I've ever seen happen. OK, this is not a list of three things. Translation: There is a first at TC, which is a game changer, and this is one of the most unexpected things that I've ever seen happen. This is Jeff being caught completely unprepared, so it is not a production twist. While there could be a production twist, it would be planned, and an addition to this. Jeff mentions no twists. He says nothing about catching the players off guard. It is the players who surprise Jeff. Combine this with: CBS Press release for E4
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03.01.2012 AN UNFORGIVABLE BETRAYAL FORCES ONE TRIBE TO MAKE A DRASTIC MOVE THAT WILL GO DOWN IN SURVIVOR HISTORY, ON "SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD,” WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7 CHEAT TWEET: In 24 seasons we’ve never seen this! 1 tribe makes a move that’ll go down in #Survivor history Wed, March 7 @ 8pmET/PT http://bit.ly/y8BVEw "Bum-Puzzled" — An unforgiveable betrayal forces one tribe to make a drastic move that has never been done before in Survivor history, and an electrifying Tribal Council leaves several castaways speechless, on SURVIVOR: ONE WORLD, Wednesday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Ok, so what things overlap here? Thing #1: Unforgivable betrayal
Thing #2: One tribe makes a drastic move,
Thigs #3: It is the MOVE that goes down in Survivor History.
Different wordings we are given about the move:
a) Never seen in a prior season.
b) Will go down in Survivor History
c) move has never been done before
d) drastic
e) move is result (FORCED) by the unforgivable betrayal.
f) move is made by one tribe in particular. Now incorporate Jeff's tout:
First at TC changes the game and Jeff never saw it coming.
I equate "makes Survivor history" with a "first" -- so it seems likely the drastic move is made AT TC.
Teaser confirms that electrifying Tribal Council leaves several castaways speechless. This indicates that either some of the castaways (several) were not expecting the move or the fallout from the move, any more than Jeff was. Now we do have some dialogue in camp about a move, from Jonas IIRC (but I could misremember). We have dialogue from the men about a betrayal (Greg). The problem here is that the men have a betrayal and are planning a move. We have nothing from the women really. Yet the one missing in the next episode is Monica. That is the problem I have. How does it move from all this angst and betrayal and plotting on Manono and result in Monica going. We really have nothing to show either tribe losing the IC. Furthermore, in spite of all the spec about Leif sharing reward food, from what I see, the women are doing very well with the slingshot. We see them busting out the squares, and talking about how they can beat the men. So we should maybe be open to them winning. We also don't see Leif with a partner in the IC. There are only 7 women though, so there can't be 4 pairs. Either a woman and two men are sitting out or a woman and Leif have another task? But because we don't see Leif, and we think he got the male disapproval, one has to wonder. So what could it be that stays within the parameters of the teasers? (If the teasers are wrong, so be it, it's what they gave us.) Is there any way that the women could make a drastic move at TC in response to an unforgivable betrayal? Any way the men are going to TC, given they are all accounted for in the water basketball?
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03-05-12, 09:53 AM (EST)
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47. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
Could it be that the winner of the Immunity Idol decides to give it to the other tribe, so they can vote someone out?"Why not intentionally lose, then?" Maybe that's what provokes it. Perhaps someone is trying to intentionally lose, and then when the men win, they're like, "ok, you want to lose so bad? we'll go to Tribal and kick YOU out!" Or maybe it's after the challenge. Men win, go back to camp, all happy... some guy is like "I'm betraying stuff, etc." so the rest of the group is like "hey women, want the idol? because we're going to Tribal and kick this guy out." (or replace men with women in any of the above) Yeah, it sounds lame even writing this out, but I guess it COULD happen...? (I'm leaning more towards someone giving away the food/tarp/canoe/fire/secrets/HII)
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03-05-12, 10:15 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
Is there any way that the women could make a drastic move at TC in response to an unforgivable betrayal?Why would they? The betrayer would be low man on the totem pole, if in your tribe just boot him, if in the other tribe it becomes a matter of protecting him if you can. How would they do that? Other than intentionally losing the IC to send themselves to TC, which would be a different reason for doing something that's been done before, I can't think of anything. Any way the men are going to TC, given they are all accounted for in the water basketball? Doubt it. Unless part of a reward for winning IC is getting to attend TC as observers, which would be planned by production. So unlikely. Possibilities. The two tribes decide to conduct their own tribal switch without Jeff, pick'em or blind draw, sending a mixed batch to TC. Doubtful, production could just over-rule it, but this is made possible courtesy of the One World twist. Which is true of the "betrayal" itself. Physical altercation resulting in expulsion. Rather not see that, it has always been theoretically possible, it would put Jeff in the position of deciding which person was at fault, in effect Jeff decides who it booted. Unexpected, yes. Electrifying? That would be weird hype. Not really a game-changer except that it hasn't happened before now, it would be different. Alliance can't decide between two potential booties and insists on a challenge between them. Production is unprepared for this, just says no that isn't going to happen, we never see any of it. Tribe decides to not vote but sit around the TC fire for the next four weeks until the game is over. Okay, now I'm being silly.
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03-07-12, 01:45 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: Misdirection Clues" |
That's an interesting idea, Sheldor. I am still stuck with the fact that the men are mad at a MAN, yet a woman goes. If Leif helps Monica, for example, and women win, a man goes. But all 8 men are in the water basketball. That is the key. Seven of the men get close-up shots in future challenges, all but Troyzan.
Six of the women get close-up shots in the future, all but Chelsea and Monica. NO ONE goes home this ep other than one of those three, period. We see eight guys in one shot in the water basketball, two in the foreground and six in the background. That's why we know it's a woman going. 
Looks like Troyzan's yellow trunks on that second man from the left. We KNOW that Jay is there on Salani. So the betrayal might be an attempt to help the women win, but they don't, UNLESS Jeff were to strip the women of their victory after the fact, for some action that was caught belatedly, and then game the II to the men.
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