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Putting this in spoilers because Jeff sometimes says things that have implications on the way the game may go and discussing that usually gets into spoiler territory.
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LAST EDITED ON 02-12-10 AT 08:41 AM (EST)Cool note: The NZ airforce guys with the helicopters got to do a couple of the practice challenges against the dream team. I think that could be fun to watch. if Russell plays the same game he did in Samoa during this season, he has a much better chance of winning because this group of players has a different set of criteria for what it takes to win the game. IF? I think he is very likely to play the game the same way, but it may be worth watching to see if anything is different. If he makes the final tribal council I do suspect the questioning may be a bit different. Do you believe that the winner of this season will go down as the ”best to ever play?” Or will the winner of this season simply be ”the winner of Heroes vs Villains.” That is an interesting question. Maybe worth thinking about again as we come to the end game. Nobody is going to win by coattailing it. No chance that kind of behavior will be rewarded. Playing an ”under the radar game” is different than riding somebody’s coattails. Please don’t ask me to explain the difference because I’m not sure I can; it’s just a gut feeling that I believe I can spot. Also may be interesting to think about as we near the end game. Just from that it sounds like the tribal council may have a coat-tailer, an UTR and probably someone very obvious in their game. I guess the UTR wins (adds back to best ever to play vs just who won this round) with the tail-rider getting no votes. I do think there is a difference between keeping your game quiet enough that people aren't always seeing what you are up to vs latching onto someone else and doing everything they tell you. Although I agree it can often be more of a gut feeling than something easy to tell apart based on some of the external actions. They may look similar but I think people can tell the "real brains behind the scenes" vs "I did what I was told to do".
They’re both scrappy players and scrappy will be the key to winning this season. That doesn’t mean a Hero can’t win, it merely means that in my opinion, by the time this season is over, the idea of what makes up a Hero or Villain will fluctuate quite a bit.
I think how they divided the teams may make some people step out of their usual roles. I don't think tribes work that well when everyone is the same. You need some of the good work ethic gets things done around camp people and some strategy what will get us to the end people as well as some gets it done in the challenges people. Especially at the tribal level. If you put all the same kinda people together in one tribe some of them are going to gravitate toward the voids and fill a role that may not be the one the typically would fill. Sandra Diaz – I am so glad she is back. I love her lippy way of telling it like it is. Courtney is also surprising me early on. I like how hard she fought in the initial challenge. Cirie is a legit, 100% full-on threat to win this game. Parvati, if given any kind of an opening will worm her way back into a solid alliance. Russell is a no-brainer. Take him out early or risk seeing him in the final again. Tom Westman, so glad he came back for another go. He needs a strong alliance and if he gets it, he will go deep. He’s a very good ”people person.” Rupert, Rupert, Rupert. It’s hard for me to distinguish the Survivor Rupert from the real Rupert. Maybe there isn’t a difference anymore, but I know this… kids still love them some Rupert! These are who he chooses to highlight, may be giving us those that go far? Well other than Rupert, that doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement.
The idea of ”past relationships” came up during Tribal Council and it is going to be a theme this season. If you’re in a Survivor pool, make sure you factor this into your decision of who you think will win. It could go either way – being tied to others from your season could work for you or against you, just as being the only one out there from your season could work for you or against you – but it will be discussed a lot and will factor into how people vote.
May be worth seeing how that theme plays out in the voting.
Note from Dalton's recap.
The initial challenge (and it sounds like this may be common) was a best of 5 edited down to a best of 3. Stephanie actually was injured the first time around, but the bout shown was the rematch and that round she played already injured. It had the same people in the two rounds, so sounds like the picked the more visual of the two matches rather than the one she was actually injured during. I may not like her at times, but I've always thought she was one tough cookie.
ETA link
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/12/jeff-probst-blogs-the-survivor-heroes-vs-villains-premiere/
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2. "Episode 2 Jeff Blog" |
BOSTON ROB ALMOST GOES HOMEBoston Rob is a stud. The dude can make fire without flint, he can single-handedly win a challenge for his tribe, he is always good for a memorable quip (“Again I’m on the buffoon tribe”) and… he married Amber. Not bad. But even Boston Rob cannot stomach the Samoa flu. Turns out that’s all that was wrong with Rob, a bout of the local Samoan flu. But hear me when I say this was no ordinary flu. During the season it took out a lot of our crew members and a lot of the locals on the island. It hits the body very hard and according to our doctors, one of the worst parts was the accompanying headache which felt like a nail being repeatedly pounded into the back of your head. INSIGHT: When the doctors and I first got to Rob at camp, he was flat out on his side. Flat out. He was shaking uncontrollably and he was slobbering from the mouth. I knew it was bad because Rob is not the kind of guy who ever complains about physical pain. He’ll complain about damn near everything else, but he’s pretty self-contained when it comes to pain. He was out of it. Before the docs diagnosed it as merely the flu, I thought he was going to have to be evacuated. I doubt Rob has any idea how bad it really was, I don’t think he remembers much of what happened. After the doctors had run their tests and determined that he was okay to continue, he and I sat and talked for quite a while. He just needed time to get strong enough so that he could stand up and walk back over to the rest of the tribe. It was a pretty funny, and at times emotional, exchange. He kept repeating that he didn’t want to “let anybody down” because he loved the game so much. But as his mind cleared up a bit, those noble feelings were replaced by a more familiar Boston Rob refrain: “Screw it. I’m gonna win this damn game.” I half expected him to stand up, staggering to maintain balance and yell to no one in particular: “Adrienne! Adrienne! A DREAM ALLIANCE Russell is obviously annoyed with Rob being the one in charge, but if Rob and Russell could get rid of their egos and team up they could run this game to the end. Russell offers Rob the energy to play a very aggressive game and Rob offers Russell the wisdom of when to simmer down. If it happens, watch out. BETTER KEEP AN EYE ON CIRIE Cirie is amazing. I am so impressed by how good a player she has become, so subtle with her maneuvering of people. Like her or not, I’d put Cirie in the top twenty players of all time. She will definitely have her hands full this season because she is playing against a lot of very good players but she is quite clever and if they let her last for long she will be in an alliance that will be too tight to break. NOW TO THE BIG NEWS… The heroes are clearly starting to fall apart. I still do not understand the rationale of players who come into this game, some of them for the third time, and continue to make selfish decisions, based solely on alliances, in only the SECOND WEEK OF THE GAME! Voting out Stephenie? Really? Even on Ambien that makes no sense. The Sugar vote made sense. This vote… no sense. Obviously, I’m not out there playing, so it’s easy for me to sit back and judge. But Stephenie? This vote really surprised me and it was all based on alliances. Week-two alliances. FUTURE PLAYERS, HEAR ME WHEN I SAY THIS: Voting out great players in the second week is idiotic. It almost always works against you. Look at the history of Survivor. When the game starts it is a “team” game. The more you win as a team the longer you are guaranteed to stay in the game. The more you lose, the more you go to tribal council and the more likely you are to be voted out. This very simple strategic idea has been lost over the years. It used to be a no-brainer to keep your tribe strong, but the game has changed. It makes no difference to me how people play, but if the heroes continue to lose keep that idea in mind. Maybe next year we’ll get a group of people who play a little more “old-school” Survivor and then we can see if my comments hold any water. There are certainly many examples of winners who formed alliances on day two that took them to the end. Of course there are, because most everybody is forming those kinds of alliances so obviously it will work out for one player. But for everybody else, it will fail. It is not the smartest way to play this game. You need to be able to balance your alliance while keeping the tribe strong. And while we’re on the topic, “strong” doesn’t just mean in challenges. Strong means work ethic, attitude, ability to provide food or build shelter, as well as leadership abilities and a whole host of other qualities. WHICH LEADS ME TO… I’m going to say something that will probably be very unpopular but if I were on the Heroes tribe I would have to seriously consider getting rid of James. I know he’s the strongest guy to ever play this game, but his attitude is just not there and that is more damaging long term than his biceps are helpful short term. He ran around camp telling everybody that Stephenie was a loser and she should be voted out. He caused as much disharmony with his running around as Stephenie did by talking during the challenge. But it was his outburst at tribal council that was most unnerving. But here’s the issue… Players get so locked into their vote that they rarely change their mind at tribal council. NOTE # 2 TO ALL FUTURE PLAYERS: If you are at tribal and something is going south – have the guts to change your mind and call an audible. Make a stand. To get a shot at the million dollars you have to make it to the end and to get to the end you have to avoid tribal council and to avoid tribal council you have to win. STEPHENIE AND BEYOND The hero tribe will need some time to recover from tonight’s vote and not simply because they lost a very strong player in Stephenie. The real damage came at the hands of James. His comments must have left a bad taste in the mouth of every other member on the Hero tribe. The hero tribe now needs to heal and come back together as a tribe. It’s only day six. The problem is, healing takes time and Survivor waits for nothing and no one. Some of the best one-liners of the season are in next week’s episode. Enjoy.
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02-19-10, 07:22 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Episode 2 Jeff Blog" |
WOW...talk about foreshadowing! Jiffy sees the writing on the wall this week and spells it out not only for all of us, but for all future players. The hero's are going down and it started here and now. And, he's been around long enough to see it. He sees the difference between the old way to play, and the ones that come now and try to seal their fate on day one...I agree, the old school way seemed to be alot more fun.Clearly, James is out of control. I liked the old James far more....he needs to keep his mouth shut! I thought Stephanie handled herself well under pressure. Imo, Jiffy has spelled it all out here in his blog...
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LAST EDITED ON 02-24-10 AT 02:35 PM (EST)Lots of foreshadowing and the first example of "villains become heroes and heroes become villains! I imagine we'll see more of that as the season progresses. ETA: Totally agree with you Suzzee! 
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James has lost it and he will drag the Heroes down with him.
I am not a hugh fan of Stephanie but her physical abilities will be missed.
Tom and Colby might have been better off proposing Candace as the one to be voted off. She has no real alliance and like Sugar last week is not likley to help in any future challange.
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Just wanted to say, WELCOME to Blows, BedfordRobbie. And, I think you are wise to point that out. Candice, with no ties to any of them there, as Sugar was, would have made a far better choice imo as well.
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The voting comments, esp. Cirie's and Rupert's, are telling about why Steph was voted out. I hope Colby smartens up and starts playing a better social game -- he needs to align with Candice.JT and Rupert must realize at some point that it's not wise to allow Cirie/Amanda/James to go too far together (despite Cirie's very canny comments at TC)...so it will be interesting which girl they'll pick the next time they have to vote someone off...or will they go after Tom? Tom's comment last night that Candice could be in a powerful swing vote position was interesting -- could be very true if she plays it the right way. Here are the comments, thanks to Survivor Shrine (can't find James Barber): Tribal Council Transcript
Find out what each of the Survivors had to say when voting off their fellow tribemate. Episode 2: Stephenie LaGrossa Voted Out by a 6-3 Vote Rupert (votes Stephenie): Maybe you should have tried a little harder the first few days to talk to everybody instead of just a few. You never came to me until we were ready to go to Tribal Council the first time. I'm sorry. Cirie (votes Stephenie): I wanted to play this game with you but your core members of your alliance didn't give me a shot until they felt threatened and that doesn't make me feel secure. Sorry. Tom (votes Amanda): Amanda, I know its a throw away vote. We don't have the numbers but promised Stephenie I wasn't writing her name down. Sticking with the original plan, JT said we're writing your name down, I know he's not. I am, bring a little heat on me at camp, I know, but so be it. Amanda (votes Stephenie): Steph, I'm voting for you because you want me out so I want you out. James (votes Stephenie): ::shrugs:: Candice (votes Stephenie): Stephenie, I'm voting for you tonight because we just didn't have the numbers to go the other way and we didn't have time to work it out. I'm sorry. I think you're a great girl. I wish you teh best of luck. JT (votes Stephenie): Sorry Stephenie, but I got to do what's best for me. You're a great competitor, I hate to see you leave. Stephenie (votes Amanda): It's the plan, you're the weakest. Colby (votes Amanda): Nothing personal against you, I simply think you're the weakest member of the tribe. Trying to keep the tribe strong. Best of luck to you.
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02-22-10, 11:25 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Episode 2 Jeff Blog" |
I agree that Candice is the strongest Hero woman overall...plus she's smart...I think she's actually in a good strategic position as a swing vote -- hope she doesn't let Cirie lead her around the whole time.
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12. "Episode 3 Jiffy Blog" |
PREVIOUSLY ON… SURVIVORWhen last I left you…James appeared to be in the beginning stages of losing his mind. Last week’s tribal council ended with the very ugly and unnecessary comment from James to Stephenie: “Shut your mouth.” Ah, so lovely. Look, I’ve been a big fan of James from day one. I voted for him to be on Fans vs. Favorites and I voted for him to be on Heroes vs. Villains and up until this season I would have referred to him with affectionate phrases like “James the Gentle Giant.” Yeah… those days are gone. I don’t know if James was going through something personal like trying to quit smoking or if he had a bad rash nobody knew about but something has definitely changed. James is just not a nice guy these days. More on that later. SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY Boston Rob’s strategy tip was absolutely brilliant: “I’m gonna give you the key. Watch who is sleeping with whom at night.” Talk about insight. It’s amazing what we reveal about ourselves without realizing it. As David Mamet would say, “We all have a ‘tell’.” A tell is something we’re not aware of that gives us away. That’s why poker players wear dark glasses, to hide their tells. I wonder if Tiger Woods had a tell? THE BLACK WIDOW THROWDOWN Circus Announcer: “Ladies and Gentlemen, gather your children and circle the wagons, for on this very stage tonight you will be witness to one of the greatest spectacles ever seen by human eyes…it’s the Survivor Black Widow Shooooooooooowdown!” You knew it was coming. Jerri “The Original Black Widow” Manthey coming face to face with Parvati “I Take No Prisoners” Shallow for the female grudge match of the season. I couldn’t be happier. Jerri: Every time I’m around her I want to punch her in the face. Parvati: She’s just a bitter old cougar. AND THE WINNER IS… It’s an interesting match-up but I have to give the advantage to Parvati. That doesn’t mean Jerri isn’t long for the game, it only means in terms of playing the “flirt” game, Parvati has no equal. She’s even got Russell under her spell. Even Russell, the guy who thoroughly dominated last season in Samoa, is susceptible to the charms of a beautiful woman. Of course he is, he’s a man. Rob sees it. Coach sees it. The audience sees it. We can all sense what is going on. Russell may not want to believe it and I’m sure at the live Reunion show he’ll tell me how wrong I was, but from where I sit he is getting played by Parvati the same way my two-year-old honorary nephew Oscar plays with his marionette. Coach is spot on. Parvati is dangerous. And yes, if Parvati decides to snuggle up against Coach in the middle of the night you’ll hear Coach singing a whole different song in the morning. He’ll be walking around proud as a victorious warrior spouting off pearls such as :”Parvati is a really nice girl. I trust her. She’s worthy of warriorette status.” Of course he will. Why? Everybody together now, “He’s a man!” Leave it to the oldest guy out there to say it best: Randy: “Survivor, in so many ways, is like the real world. You don’t get ahead by being smart, clever, and hard working. You get ahead, unfortunately, with a pretty smile and being able to schmooze people, and Parvati is the queen.” RUSSELL’S ACHILLES HEEL But Russell’s problem is not Parvati. Russell’s Achilles heel is his ego. He keeps saying he cannot stand that Rob thinks he is running the camp. What he really means it that he cannot stand that Rob IS running the camp. If it were only the perception that Rob is in charge, Russell wouldn’t care. It’s the fact that it’s true that has those little hairs on his head standing on end. Russell: “I’m the daddy around here. Nobody knows who they’re messin’ with. It’s Russell Hantz. Gimme a break.” If Russell were a leader back in the Roman Empire days he would have been Maximillian I, one of the most egotistical Roman Emperors to ever govern Rome. Maximillian didn’t have the Internet or television to promote himself but he did have the printing press and he used it to share all of his victories with the world. Imagine ‘ole Max on Survivor – now that would be a ratings juggernaut. Let me say it one more time: Russell continues to miss his single greatest strategic opportunity – Boston Rob. Stop working against Rob and work with him. What’s wrong with you! Rob and Russell together could take it all the way to the end. It’s so easy to see when you’re not stuck in the middle of it. SUMO IN THE MUD I love this challenge. We could do this challenge every year and I’d be happy. And if Coach could play in this challenge every season I would never stop hosting Survivor. But first… The “Didn’t See It Coming” match: Did anybody actually think Amanda would take out Danielle? That was the biggest upset of the match. A total shocker. The Most Exciting” match: Colby and Rob. That was a fantastic match-up. Exactly who we wanted to see go at it. Chalk this one up for Colby. That is how this challenge was designed to be played. Aggressively. “The Most Embarrassing” match: It’s now official. James has clearly lost his mind. It’s el gonzo. It was the most lopsided match of the challenge. There was no doubt who was going to win. James knocked Randy off with one small push and then…he threw his bag on top of him and as always had to have the last word. “Get your f—ing old ##### outta here.” Sorry James but this is where I get off the James train. It’s not that I think Randy is the nicest guy in the world either, but that was just unnecessary and truly ugly. And now…to the greatest moment of the episode… “The I Can’t Hear You, Jeff, Because I’m Too Busy Posing For The Camera” match: Coach, you are a gem. You are the greatest. I loved this moment when it happened. I love it even more now that it’s on my TiVo and I can watch it over and over and over and over. Hopefully you all saw what happened. The rules state that both hands must be on the bag at all times. One of Coach’s hands slipped off the bag and inadvertently helped push Rupert off the platform. A technicality yes, but still an enforceable rule. So we had to play again. But Coach didn’t hear me and went into a 30-second pose down that was absolutely brilliant. One of his best ever and his reaction when he found out it was all for naught was even better. And here’s something I’ll admit. When Coach flipped me off it didn’t bother me. I understood it to be in the heat of the moment and not really directed at me so much as it was just frustration in general. It could bring up the question: Am I holding James to a different standard? I certainly don’t feel like I am. I feel like James’ attacks have been very personal, but I’m aware that it could seem like a double standard. Whatever it says about me, I didn’t find Coach’s flip-off to be ugly, but as already stated, I think James has blown a gasket. Side note: Some of you may be wondering about the sit-out rule pertaining to back-to-back challenges. That rule only applies within an episode. Each new episode it starts fresh. Typically we have two challenges within an episode, but not always. So Courtney was able to sit out the last challenge (last week’s episode) and sit out again in this week’s challenge (new episode.) Hope that clears up any questions. S LONG AS IT AIN’T ME She did it in the Pearl Islands and she’s doing it again. Sandra is employing the single greatest and most simple strategy you can have on Survivor: As Long As It Ain’t Me. That’s really all you have to do to win this game – just make sure it ain’t you every single time you go to tribal council. Easier said than done for sure, but Sandra has it down to an Olympic-caliber science. She’s so good at it that at this point she is nowhere close to being voted out. Nobody’s even talking about her. She’s just minding her own business, going with the flow and staying out of the way. I love it. THE QUOTE OF THE DAY In an episode filled with fantastic quotes, this was my favorite. Coach: “There’s nobody out here that’s honorable anymore…except for me.” Admit it, you just laughed when you read it, right? It’s that good. “There’s nobody out here that’s honorable anymore…except for me.” If I could write stuff this good I’d be taking home an Oscar this year. The thing about Coach is he wears his emotions right there on this tattooed body for everybody to see. He is clearly upset by the lack of honor but in typical DragonSlayer fashion, he rallies with a quote from the great Martin Luther King, Jr. Coach: “The greatest measure of a man is not the way he handles times of comfort but in the way he rises through controversy and challenges.” Now the minute I heard Coach spouting off with an MLK quote I just knew it would be a complete bastardized version of the original. But I was wrong. I Googled that quote and Coach, you were spot on, brotha. Bravo. AT LEAST THEY GOT THE VOTE RIGHT The villains made the right move. Randy was the best person to vote out. He said it best, he just never fit in with the tribe and with his already sour attitude and marginal strength in challenges, he seemed the perfect and easy target to vote out. Randy I hope you’re happy and if you’re not happy – I hope you’re happy being not happy. See ya next week.
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17. "RE: Episode 3 Jiffy Blog" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-10 AT 01:16 PM (EST)Jeff's blog has become a very useful spoiler tool. It's not clear if Jeff is so forthcoming with his comments because he's aware that this season has already been spoiled, or if he writes it for the average viewer who doesn't really know what's ahead. I think the latter, Krautboy. It seems like some seasons he hits us over the head with the winner, as he did with Bob from Gabon.
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This is interesting...check out Sandra's post on Facebook, in response to a friend posting Jeff's blog comments about her:
_______________________Devan Gonyea PROBST SEES IT!!! From his blog: She did it in the Pearl Islands and she’s doing it again.
Sandra is employing the single greatest and most simple
strategy you can have on Survivor: As Long As It Ain’t Me.
That’s really all you have to do to win this game – just make
sure it ain’t you every single time you go to tribal council.
Easier said than done for sure, but Sandra has it down to an
Olympic-caliber science. She’s so good at it that at this
point she is nowhere close to being voted out. Nobody’s even
talking about her. She’s just minding her own business, going
with the flow and staying out of the way. I love it.
SURVIVOR SANDRA DIAZ-TWINE
i'm a check it out" trust me those words are powerful
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19. "Episode 4 Blog" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-05-10 AT 09:25 AM (EST)Well, we’re four episodes in to Heroes v Villains and I am hearing from a lot of you on the streets that you are really digging this season. I’m happy to hear that and you’re going to love next week just as much. There’s good stuff coming down the pipe! Lets get to the most recent episode… WE ALL WANT TO BE LIKED COACH: (battling tears) “Why doesn’t anybody ever say anything nice about me?” There it is. The Answer. The great mystery has been solved. Nine simple words and you have the secret to understanding Coach. He just wants to be liked. Is that so much to ask? SCREEEECH! Oh, for crying out loud, I can already hear the Coach haters telling me to get over my “Coach Crush.” Let me just deal with you guys right quick by delving into my 7th grade bag of insults. How ’bout this one… “Bite me.” Has a nice ring to it. I may use it again later. Let me also tell you up front that I’m slightly annoyed as I write this. It’s late, it’s been a long day and as I was driving home at 10 p.m., it started raining. Not a big deal except that I had hosted a big charity event at my little tree house of a home on Sunday and so I pulled out the cushions to my patio furniture and I forgot to bring them back inside, knowing it was scheduled to rain. So I came home to the dreaded… wet cushions. Ah, we’ve all been there, right? The dreaded wet cushions. Right up there with that load of laundry you left in the washing machine and now it smells of mildew. Crisis. I wasn’t in the mood. Now the cushions are in my living room creating a small pool of water as I write this. Just not in the mood. Annoyed. It happens. Hard to believe, I know, but I’m not always Mr. Positive. Shocking. So… if you pick up on any pettiness, it probably stems from wet cushions. Guess I’ll have to get out my Pottery Barn catalog and order new ones. I’m kidding. I’m not gonna call Pottery Barn, I’ll have my assistant call Pottery Barn. I don’t deal with that kind of domestic crap. Relax. I’m kidding again. I don’t have an assistant. I have an intern, they’re free. I GET NO RESPECT, I TELL YA Okay, back to Coach. We all want to be liked. I want to be liked, politicians want to be liked, musicians want to be liked, tree trimmers want to be liked, grocery store clerks want to be liked, even Hollywood talent agents want to be liked. Check that, they REALLY want to be liked. I’m guessing most of you reading this blog also want to be liked. It’s a universal desire to be liked. Well, Coach is no different. Coach believes he is living a very noble life and playing a very honorable game of Survivor and he wants to be acknowledged for doing so… he wants to be liked…but it just isn’t going to happen. It’s Survivor. Nobody gets any respect. Case in point – Tyson. Tyson’s actions regarding Coach are a perfect example of why Survivor is so damn tough to play. On one hand Tyson was a source of comfort to Coach. He listened as Coach shared his feelings and he even offered counsel to Coach with some candid advice that Coach would be wise to take to heart. But then Tyson turned around and shared every single thing Coach said with the rest of the tribe, including the fact that Coach had shed tears and considered quitting. Man, that ain’t right. That’s some bullsh*t up in here. But that’s how the game of Survivor is played. Information is king. If you give information to someone else, you give them power. Coach gave Tyson power when he shared his feelings with him. It’s harsh but it’s true. GET IT TOGETHER MAN, I’M SERIOUS I loved the exchange between Coach and Boston Rob because it brought out Rob’s very limited patience for topics such as feelings and whining. More than any other guy I know Rob is the quintessential “guys guy.” He’s just not one to have long talks about feelings. You’re either with him or you’re against him. It’s so clear that Coach desperately wants to be with him and that is probably at the heart of why he’s feeling left out. He just wants Rob to like him! But with Rob, it’s not so much if he likes you as much as it is if he doesn’t despise you. Coach, he doesn’t despise you, so take his advice – stand up straight and get back in the game. It’s too soon for you to go home. INTERMISSION Oh, while we’re here… how about another response for those of you who are still screaming at me to get off the Coach topic? Let’s see… hmmm… how about this 8th grade classic… “Up yours.” Ya like that one? I do too. It’s straight to the point. I’m kidding. It’s just a joke. Where’s your sense of humor. Fun. You remember fun, right? That thing you used to have before you became a pain in the a–? Yeah, that thing. Listen, if I can laugh at myself with wet cushions, you should be able to take a little Coach humor. IDOL PLAY I was a bit surprised at the different way the two tribes approached the idol clue. I never would have guessed that it would be the Villains who chose to not look for the idol, while the Heroes were tripping over each other in a mad dash to uncover it. Further proof that at this point, the Villains are more in control of their game. They just have it more together than the Heroes. Yes, of course it makes sense to want the idol in your possession, but the fact the villains were fine keeping the idol out of their game tells me they are more concerned with keeping their tribe strong then they are dividing it by looking for the idol. Russell of course has a different idea and thank heavens, because let’s be clear – we put the idol in the show because we want it to be found… and we would like it to be played. Preferably many times. So the Villains’ decision to sit on the clue and do nothing about it is not the most exciting news to hear back at base camp. That’s just one of the reasons Russell was invited back – he plays the game. He’s not an observer, he’s a participant. And he still should have won last season. IMMUNITY CHALLENGE – TAKE TWO Yes, that was the same Immunity Challenge from last seasons Survivor: Samoa in which the dreadlocked Russell went down… and almost did not get up. As emotional as it was to run the challenge again, we never debated. We felt that it belonged in this season because of the distinction of being the only challenge in the history of Survivor to not be completed and it offered a chance to create new history when it was finally was completed. Once again Boston Rob showed his ability to lead as he singlehandedly won that challenge for the Villains. Rob is a guy who wants the ball in his hands when there are only seconds left on the clock. He’s not afraid to step up and take the big shot. That’s the same way he plays Survivor – to win. I respect anybody who plays this game full tilt boogie every day. Here’s something that will aggravate Russell and probably every other Survivor. Every other Survivor except Ashley from last season – Ashley gets it and she’ll understand that what I’m about to say is not a slight to anyone else, it’s just a really wise bet. Here’s the bet: If I had to put money on only one Survivor it would be Boston Rob. Overall, he has the qualities that I would most want to have if I played the game and I think that if I bet on him every day that over the course of the run I’d come out ahead. INALLY THE HEROES GET IT RIGHT While I’m sorry to see Cirie gone from the game, I’m happy that she got voted out because this philosophy of getting rid of the strong players simply because they’re not in your alliance was about to make me throw my laptop through my television screen. Imagine that, a living room filled with wet cushions and a busted TV. That would really suck. Cirie was the right vote. Voting out Colby or Tom over Cirie would have been yet another idiotic vote by the Hero tribe – one that I fully expected them to make. I was shocked to see JT switch his vote, but I do think he made the best overall move. That doesn’t mean JT won’t be the next one voted out, but if you want to win… you have to have a strong tribe and at times you have to make big moves. JT did both tonight – he kept his tribe strong by making a big move. Cirie is only strong in one area – strategy. She’s a master strategist in fact, but she was not going to help them at camp or in challenges. NEXT TIME ON… SURVIVOR So maybe the Heroes can turn things around now. They’re clearly the stronger tribe physically if they can just get their attitudes to catch up to their muscles. Next week’s episode offers another interesting tribal council and … another Survivor goes down! See ya then. By the way, the cushions are now dry.
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Lots of Rob love this week. They sure are building him up, although it's true that he is so darn good at those challenges!
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In the Tyson/Coach fest, I was so hoping that since it was dark that Tyson would be making all kinds of faces while Coach was giving his academy award performance. Kudos to Tyson for blabbing about Coaches crybabyitis. And to Rob for telling the big putz to man up. 
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25. "Ep. 5 blog" |
Let’s call this one THE DUMBEST DECISION YET.But before we get to Survivor… for all of those concerned, my cushions… are dry. Hallejuah. Such a big relief. You really don’t know how good you have it until you undergo a major crisis such as wet outdoor patio cushions. I didn’t even share that when I called Pottery Barn – I mean when my assistant, actually my free intern, called Pottery Barn – they said those cushions were not being made anymore. Say what?!! I truly thought for a moment, “What am I gonna do?” But then like a gift from the Universe, the sun came out. That beautiful ball of heat, the most important part of our incredible solar system revealed itself to Southern California and those cushions… that were once so wet…miraculously dried. I still marvel at the power of nature. Okay onto Survivor…and THE DUMBEST DECISION YET. RUSSELL: “HERE IT GOES AGAIN” Admit it. Go on, admit it! You smiled when he found it. You turned to whomever you were watching with and said, “I don’t believe it. He found another idol!” I know I did. How can you not? It’s not Survivor if Russell isn’t looking, finding, or playing an idol. Now that he has it, this season is officially on, and things are about to change dramatically. How can they not, ‘ole Russell is now back in charge. REWARD CHALLENGE – A TASTE OF CHOCOLATE Ah, so much to talk about at what started out as a simple little Reward Challenge. First, the chocolate tease. Occasionally when we really want to wet their appetite, we’ll tease the tribes with a small taste of the reward. So, I handed each tribe a plate with some very tiny pieces of chocolate. Enough for one bite for each tribe member. They were very small, but when you haven’t had much of anything to eat in a long time, even a tiny sliver of chocolate looks pretty good to most people. But not Colby, or any of the Heroes for that matter. They wanted nothing to do with that damn chocolate. I get what the Hero tribe was doing. They were trying to psyche themselves up by staying focused. Fair enough. They were also trying to intimidate the villains a bit, which, clearly was wasted energy. The villains are on a roll, they’re dominating the game and they’re not intimidated by anything at this point. But the part that I’m sure a lot of you are talking about was my interaction with Colby when he instructed me, in no uncertain terms, to get the challenge started. To which I replied: Probst: “I got the message brother, and we’ll go when I’m ready.” Don’t go reading too much into it. I was merely holding my ground as host, nothing more. I would have had the same response to anybody who attempted to tell me what to do. Because like it or not… “We WILL go… when I’M ready.” That’s what 20 seasons and the title of host gets you. The ability to go when you’re damn good and ready and not a moment before. SIDE NOTE: Oh, and one more bit of housekeeping from last weeks blog. I read many of your comments implying that I was hard on “America’s Favorite Survivor” Rupert because I was trying to save my buddy, Colby. Let me be really clear about a few things: 1. The first time I had seen Colby in several years was at the start of Heroes v Villains. I have no more loyalty to Colby than anybody else. 2. If I wanted to, do you really think I could influence a vote by asking a simple and legit question? You think these players are so easily influenced? 3. If I could indeed influence the game, do you think I would risk losing a job that allows me to buy beautiful outdoor patio cushions by doing so? Get a clue. Buy a vowel. Phone a friend. Whatever it takes, but pull your head out. I was hard on Rupert because his logic made no sense. He was clearly voting with an alliance and trying to convince me he was voting based on keeping the tribe strong. Every Survivor knows I ask tough questions. That’s my job. He could have answered any number of other ways and got me off his back. He didn’t. Rupert dug his own hole, all I did was offer him the shovel. REWARD CHALLENGE – SCHMERGENBRAWL This is a challenge that was created by our grip department. These are the guys who build the scaffolding that makes it possible for us to shoot out in the water or put cameras high in the air. These guys are hard working and keep us all safe. During a day off they created a simple game they named Schmergenbrawl. It evolved into a major day-long tournament where our crew divided into teams. They had T-shirts made and some even had their own mascots. It was full-on. The game was so popular with our crew that our challenge department stole the idea and with a few modifications turned it into a Survivor challenge that we premiered in Survivor: Samoa. You may remember it as the challenge that resulted in me tossing somebody (Ben) out of the challenge for unsportsmanlike behavior and also resulted in the evacuation of Mike Borassi due to dehydration. We should have known that it was too rough, even for Survivor. But instead, we brought it back again this season. Once again it was physical and once again it resulted in a major injury as James was removed from the challenge after wrecking his knee. This challenge will NEVER be played again. It was officially retired after last night’s challenge and those of you who love justice being served will be happy to know that the grip that created the challenge was fired. He wasn’t really fired. He was sacrificed. It turns out the Samoans have an ancient ritual that saved our season from becoming a disaster. We gave him over to the Samoan gods to do with him as they must and in exchange they were able to bless us and insure us a very good finish to our 20th season. A small price to pay if you ask me. One grip in exchange for a really good season of Survivor. We’ll make that deal every year. Plus, one of the younger guys in the grip department got to move up and take his spot. That’s what you call a “win-win.” I think my favorite part of the challenge was when Rupert threw Jerri up against the side of the course: “Like I meant to do that!” And Jerri responded by draining the winning bucket for the Villains. You think it was the chocolate that made the difference? RUSSELL FINDS THE IDOL I loved the exchange between Russell and Parvati: Russell: Just grab onto my coattails. Parvati: I don’t ride coattails, baby. Russell: You’ll ride these. Russell is very good at using the idol. I’d say he’s as good at using it as anybody. He really understands how to leverage its power and he completely changed the game by securing Parvati in his alliance and then bringing over Coach. IS PARVATI RUSSELLS ACHILES HEEL? Do you think Russell made a wise move? Or is he falling prey to one of the most deadly flirts in Survivor history? Both Russell and Parvati pulled out their big guns and told the other everything they need to know. Russell believes Parvati will ride his coattails. Parvati told him very clearly she does not ride anybody’s coattails. It may be the showdown of the season thus far, even more so than Russell vs Rob. Parvati and Russell have both proven they can play this game very well. It’s a deadly duo if they stay teamed up but there is no way this relationship ends peacefully. JAMES’ TRIUMPHANT RETURN I was blown away by how emotional Amanda was regarding James and his injury. I guess I just assumed that after playing together 3 times that maybe she could handle it a bit better. Amanda’s affection for James is endearing but speaks to how complicated this game can get. Showing her loyalty and concern for James is a big, bold move and can’t help but separate her from the rest of the group, at least a little bit, no matter what is said or not said. IMMUNITY CHALLENGE I love blindfolds. Yes. Read into that anything and everything you want. They just make life… and Survivor challenges… more interesting. Once again the challenge comes down to a puzzle, once again the heroes blow a huge lead and once again… the villains, led by Boston Rob, come from behind and win another challenge. TRIBAL COUNCIL
Okay, straight up – as the Heroes headed into Tribal Council, how many of you thought James would be going home? Me too. It seemed like a no-brainer. NO-BRAINER. But then I reminded myself, “oh yeah, this is the Hero tribe. They’ve made more silly decisions than Tiger Woods.” The consistently lousy decisions made by the Heroes have been one of the biggest surprises of this season. But the biggest surprise of the entire season (for me anyway) has been James and his new found social game. Set aside his lousy and increasingly agitated attitude –the gravedigger has learned to play the social game. How else could he still be in the game? He has influenced more than a few votes by talking to other people and manipulating them with his arguments. You have to give him credit. I was really impressed that he was able to convince the majority to keep him in the game over Tom. Yes, I know it had to do with alliances as much as anything but when you consider how many challenges the Heroes have lost – to keep a guy with a bum leg was a really crazy move and you have to give James some of the credit. Once again, Rupert tried to sell his vote based on keeping his tribe strong. Rupert: (referring to James bad leg). “He’s still stronger than Tom.” Rupert if you really believe that James, with his bad leg, is still stronger than Tom, then you need to stop drinking that pirate grog because you’ve lost your friggin mind. Ah, but that isn’t what Rupert believes. Rupert is doing what he needs to do to keep his alliance strong. Once again, let me, “Mr. Back Seat Driver,” point out why this makes no sense. Your own personal alliance may be intact, but your tribe is dwindling and if and when there is a merge, you are putting yourself in a very weak position because you will have fewer members than the Villains. You know how I feel. James has been a problem from day one. First it was his attitude and now it’s his physical limitations. And no, I’m not friends with Tom, nor am I enemies with James. I’m just sharing what I feel and I’m guessing what the audience feels as well. FINAL WORDS For the record, my niece most definitely could have beat James in a foot race. I just didn’t want to push the point for fear of him hobbling across tribal council with that bad attitude and messed up knee, and thoroughly kicking my #####. Cause that’s something James could definitely do, even with two bad legs. NEXT WEEK Due to the NCAA College basketball tournament, SURVIVOR WILL NOT BE ON NEXT WEEK! I know, we hate it too. THE FOLLOWING WEEK Survivor will be on for a special Wednesday night episode: WEDNESDAY MARCH 24TH BACK TO NORMAL On April 1st we return to our regular Thursday night time slot. Spread the word.
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26. "RE: Ep. 5 blog" |
I thought the question of whether Parv is Russell's Achilles' heel was very telling, as well as these 2 quotes:"It may be the showdown of the season thus far, even more so than Russell vs Rob." AND "It’s a deadly duo if they stay teamed up but there is no way this relationship ends peacefully." I must admit I'm not a big Parv fan, but I really loved it when she told him in no uncertain terms that she doesn't ride coattails. It definitely reminded me of how he underestimated Natalie, and we know how that ended up!
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There, I said it. This blog entry annoys me. Jeff has never annoyed me, but tonight he did.What did I say when Rusell found the idol? I didn't smile? I didn't say "I can't believe it." I said, "Took you long enough." And then I later told my husband, "Russell found another f-ing idol," and then I rolled my eyes. Let's see, what else? Oh, yes, the Colby incident. We know you don't "favor" Colby. You're still hung up on Coach, as evidenced by not standing up to him weeks ago when he flipped you off. Perhaps your outburst to Colby last night was finally your release from saying nothing to Coach. And finally, "Get a clue. Buy a vowel. Phone a friend." Perhaps you should do so as well. Maybe buy a consonant. You didn't "wet" their appetites, you "whet their appetites. Maybe had you sprayed them down with chocolate, we'd be talking something a little different.
Back to Normal: I will agree with you that James was a no brainer, but these are the heroes, and they are the idiots.
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~~~goes off to check the 'this or that' thread to see if Boo chose Jeff or Phil~~~~~
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LAST EDITED ON 03-14-10 AT 03:03 AM (EST)Don't forget the rain thing: JP loves being wetted. And my guess is that he isn't averse to being whetted, either. He just may not recognize the phenomenon without a dictionary. ETA: In the More Proof of Russell's Terminal Sexism category ... His offer of partnership to the male Virgo (Coach) as opposed to his unsolicited offer of a position to the latter's female counterpart (Parvati). I can't wait to see what he offers Jerri ...  
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LAST EDITED ON 03-15-10 AT 05:06 PM (EST)"His offer of partnership to the male Virgo (Coach) as opposed to his unsolicited offer of a position to the latter's female counterpart (Parvati)." Uh, I don't know what it being "solicited" or not has to do with anything, let alone how you can say it was somehow more solicited with Coach than it was with Parvati. I don't remember how the conversation with Coach started, but as for the conversation with Parvati, isn't the fact that she was noticably isolated with Russell after everyone else went off to swim evidence of solicitation on her part? Anyway, you seem to have forgotten the most important point. Russell proposed a "partnership" with Parvati a long time ago. Namely, an F2 deak, which (even though he wouldn't make it unless he thought he could beat her) was, I figure, made in earnest. As for the deal he made with Coach, do we honestly think Russell'd ever, in a million years, give the idol away to save him? No way. So which, I ask you, is more of a "position," and which is more of a "partnership"? Obviously, Parvati's on much better footing with Russell in Russell's mind than Coach. Though Russell is, in fact, almost certainly a sexist, the arguments people usually come up with are neither here nor there. His being afraid of "strong women," for instance, ought to be considered in his favor, given the number of chauvanists who never even consider women as possible threats. As for his attitude toward Coach and Parvati, respectively, they in no way betray sexism. If either of the two were going to be this year's Natalie, it would be Coach, whom Russell treats like a usefull idiot, not Parvati, whom he actually appears to respect as a sort of kindred player. He doesn't respect her as much as he respects himself, but, obviously, he does more than he did Natalie. I mean, come on, he's aware she's won. And quite obviously, he respects her more than Coach, with whom he participated in a freakin' fake knighting ceremony, for pete's sake.
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39. "RE: Episode 6 blog entry" |
"Russell: Boston Rob says it’s better to play with me than against me. Oh, really? I believe I’m gonna get him to eat those words.And last night, I think Rob was served an appetizer." Very apparent Rob will be "eating more" courtesy of Russell. At least Jeff gives credit to Rob, and I wholeheartedly agree with him. Rob was not my favorite in All Stars, but I think it was the Amber factor. Rob did give them the plan, Tyson is the one who f'd it up.
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LAST EDITED ON 03-25-10 AT 09:33 AM (EST)Yes Tyson did, what was he thinking?!? But it was all Russhell You can write all the comments you want about how much you hate Russell. I don’t care. I won’t respond. That dude just made a major game-changing, momentum-switching move — and it worked. That’s what legends are made from – big bold moves. I agree, how the heck he convinced him...and giving HII to Parvati--he deserves to win the game with his play last nite imho and poor Rob go home and cry to lamber  Tonight, Russell took the upper hand. I loved how happy he was with himself, on the beach slapping his thighs with joy. And Rob’s face of confusion as he heard the votes being read was something we’re not used to seeing. I wonder how long it took him to figure out what happened.
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LAST EDITED ON 03-27-10 AT 07:35 AM (EST)I agree. I think that Russell is the victim of a very real (but very limiting) intellectual/analytical superiority that refuses to acknowledge the necessity of effectively disguising its owner's distain for those he considers his inferiors - pretty much the remainder of the human race. And I certainly also agree with you and FlowerPower about Rob. He made the Season for me. I only wish that if he wasn't going to be its Sole Survivor, we at least would have had the pleasure of his company at Ponderosa and on the Jury. That would have been almost as much fun as watching him win it! You know, I've never really gotten into the "If Jeff Probst leaves Survivor, then who?" thing, until now. But I have my answer ...
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45. "RE: Episode 6 blog entry" |
I guess it depends on which version of the truth you believe.RussHell the mastermind knew what he said got Tyson to change his vote and his stunt with Pavarti and the idol was a calculated move to get him Coach's vote as well as make Pavarti loyal to him. or. Tyson was in the 3-3-3 plan all along. RussHell had no idea Tyson was going to lose his mind. He gave the idol to Pavarti because the game really wasn't going the way he wanted it and he was done with the back to back and going out by giving the idol to his snuggle bunny made a great story and RussHell mostly is about "being good TV" not winning the game. No idea where between the RussHell is Svengali making them all do what he wants vs he's just lucky someone lost their mind at the right time. But I tend to bet on he was trying to make good TV and got lucky more than anything else. I don't think even if he really had the plan to get Tyson to change the vote and vote himself out that he could really know he was going to do it and throw a million dollar bet that he would. That is why too often people wuss out on the big plan/move. You never really know if the people you need to do the stupid things will do them on cue.
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47. "RE: Episode 6 blog entry" |
Trust me, RussHell knew Tyson would vote for Parvati after his little speech. What he did not know, unless he was told (which they did not show us), was how Tyson originally was going to vote. If Tyson was originally a RussHell vote, as apparently he was, then the plan works out as we saw. If he had instead originally been a Parvati vote, then nothing would have changed from the plan, the vote would have been 3-3-3, and on the revote RussHell gets the gate. So unless RussHell knew Tyson's original intentions before that little speech, it was a 50/50 gamble and he just happened to call the toss right. Still a great move since it got one of his enemies out of the game, but not a sure thing.
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LAST EDITED ON 03-27-10 AT 06:49 AM (EST)So Tyson is lying in his interviews when he said he actually decided to switch his vote just a couple of minutes before he did it? I don't think Russhell could be certain that any words he said would turn Tyson into an automaton who would have to vote for Pavarti. I think Tyson was nervous about the tie. Being the pawn sometimes sends you home, but I think he didn't really decide what to do about it the moment RussHell spoke to him. I see that as editing hindsight. Which of 470 conversations can we use to A) Explain what happened and B) Make good TV. I will say Russhell always chooses the option that makes for good TV. I think his calculation wasn't I control the vote and I have made certain people vote the way I want to, but how can I play the idol to make the biggest splash. Giving it to Parvati make a huge splash no matter what the result. RussHell seems much more interested in being remembered than winning the game, but that's just how I see his motivations, your mileae may vary.
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50. "RE: Episode 6 blog entry" |
>>> You never really know if the people you need to do the stupid things will do them on cue. Great line, Snidget.
After reading Tyson's interview, seems like Russell picked up on a few things.
1) Tyson wanted to do a side alliance with Russell, maybe with Coach, at least wanted the option.
2) Tyson wanted Parvati gone.
3) Tyson was nervous at his exposure, because Survivor can be like Big Brother. The pawn that's supposed to be safe can go home. If they tied, Tyson had no further control over his own fate. Much better if Parvati got voted out straight off.
4) People are generally selfish and they don't give away immunity idols. Rob rightly covered the bases, but no one really expected Russell to do that. The risky move from Tyson's perspective would have been to load votes on Russell, who was no doubt going to play the HII and neutralize those votes. On Russell's part, if he wanted to stay in the game he could not afford to lose Parvati, and if he played the idol himself, he would for sure, whatever Tyson did. Russell really only had one move to make to stay in the game. Meanwhile, he let Tyson think that Russell was dispirited (like Colby), and Tyson thought "the snake" had lost its bite. Rob is one of my two favorite guys out there, and I'm really bummed he's going to LL and will miss the jury, but Russell did make a very bold play. Another lovely aspect is he left Rob confused about who the heck cast the rogue vote. Will Rob believe Tyson was that dumb, or will he think someone lied to him? Could only be Sandra, the other RussHell vote. Oh, and even though Russell gave a confessional where he wasn't sure they were smart enough to do the 3-3-3, Tyson said that by the time of TC everyone was aware that was the plan. If they hadn't been cocky enough to reveal that, Russell would have had a tougher time reading the situation.
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52. "RE: Episode 6 blog entry" |
It should be interesting to see how the rest of the castaways feel about this particular vote, because it's obviously the turning point of the game, and whether they think Russell masterminded it or was just lucky will hugely colour how they vote at FTC. If he claims responsibility for that (as he most assuredly will), he'll likely be met with a bunch of eye-rolling from his castmates, which will of course lead to his interpretation of a 'bitter jury' against him again. But that kind of seems like the vibe that's being laid down.I don't get Tyson's idea at all. Reading his interview, I sort of understood how he could think that he'd want to send Parvati home outright and keep Russell as an ally, but the only scenario his changing the vote would affect this would be a 3-3-3 tie where Russell did not play the idol at all, and if in the revote they decided to target Russell. If he plays it for himself, then who cares, Parvati is gone in a revote so there's no need for a fourth vote, and if he plays it for her, well it would end with Tyson being voted out (like last night). Man I loved Tyson on his season, but that was maybe dumber than Erik giving up immunity.
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55. "RE: Episode 6 blog entry" |
Well, from Tyson's interviews, he did not expect Russell's alliance of three to hold, because everyone in camp knew there would be a 3-3-3, which is foolproof to work for Rob's side if everyone sticks to it.Tyson says he expected Parvati and Danielle to try to save themselves and vote Russell, so he was putting a balancing vote to Parvati. But he also expected Russell to play the idol to save himself, so why would they switch their votes? According to Tyson's expectations, with his vote switch:
Rob-Sandra-Parvati-Danielle voting Russell.
Tyson-Courtney-Jerri-Coach (and possibly Russell) voting Parvati.
One or zero votes to Tyson.
Russell plays idol; Parvati goes home.
But she would have gone home without Tyson's vote ...
his logic is messed up. Back to what Russell did -- he accomplished something rare in Survivor, and that is to keep a minority vote solid against hope. He got the women to gamble that he would do what he said and give the idol to Parvati. If they had crumbled, he would have gone. As an example, just look at the prior vote for Tom. Tom-Colby-Candice were supposed to vote together against James, but Candice switched her vote when JT stuck with James er al, so that she wouldn't look bad. She left Colby hanging in the wind. That's SOP for votes where your side won't win. Colby was unusual in that he cared more about his word than his image. Russell has some sort of charisma that causes his allies to make the play with them. He demonstrated that when he kept the original Foa Foa solid even though Mick, for example, had every reason to think that flipping would be wiser than sticking, even though the Galu women were making overtures to Natalie.
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56. "Rules Clarification" |
Although not quite definitive, I think Jeff just told us that an idol cannot be played during a re-vote:"Even if nobody played the idol, so long as everybody voted as laid out by Rob, (three votes Parvati, three votes Russell) then their alliance would stay intact — at worst Russell, Parvati, and Tyson would be tied with 3 votes each. They would re-vote, Rob’s alliance would most likely target Russell, he would have been voted out." It makes sense that, if someone kept the idol in pocket during the first vote, they wouldn't be allowed to play it on the second vote because it would be playing it after votes have been revealed. You play it or you eat it.
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58. "RE: Rules Clarification" |
I always thought the same but it came into question a few times over the years.
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74. "RE: Rules Clarification" |
It's come into question at various times over the years, including when Cirie theorized in Micronesia that the purple rock could be in effect for all ties except in the Final Four.From Wiki: In the Episode Thirteen Tribal Council, Neleh and Kathy each received two votes while Vecepia was immune. In previous tie situations, where a re-vote did not determine a single contestant to be eliminated, votes from past tribal councils were used, and the contestant with the most prior votes was eliminated. In Marquesas, the prior votes rule was no longer used; instead contestants who were not immune would pull rocks colored yellow and purple from a sack. The contestant with the purple rock would be eliminated. In this situation, Kathy and Neleh drew yellow rocks, and Paschal pulled the purple rock. Despite having received no votes in the entire game, he was eliminated due to chance. Probst later admitted that using the purple rock tie-breaker was a mistake at this point in the game, because the formula behind it was impossible to apply fairly with only four survivors left.<4> No tie occurred on the show until six seasons later on Palau. It was during that season that the tie-breaker was revealed to be a fire-making challenge. However, Survivors who took part in the show between the Marquesas and Palau seasons believed that the Purple Rock challenge was still intact. As a result, many contestants would change alliances in order to avoid another tie and another chance of drawing the Purple Rock. Since Palau, there have been four tie situations that were settled with fire-making challenges, all of which were at the Final Four stage of the game. In Survivor: Micronesia, it was theorized by Cirie Fields that the purple rock tiebreaker is the tiebreaker for all ties except in the Final Four, when a challenge is used instead. Vecepia didn't have to draw a rock because she was immune.
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61. "Ep. 7 - Jeff's EW Blog" |
THE VOICE OF BOSTON ROB IS HEARD OVER A BLACK SCREENBOSTON ROB The more and more I think about it, something doesn’t feel right. Something just doesn’t feel right. FADE IN: EXT. FENWAY PARK – NIGHT
The stadium lights shine onto the field filled with a large crowd of mourners, mostly dressed in red and blue. JEFF PROBST …and as we gather to pay our last respects to Boston Rob, I’d like to take a moment of silence to remember the many things he brought to the game of Survivor. He was the Godfather who left too soon in Survivor: Marquesas. On Survivor: All-Stars, he took a different approach. He put his arm around the beautiful Amber on day three and became her “knight in shining armor” as he dragged her to the end giving her the opportunity to win the million dollars while being a two-faced betrayer to everybody else — and he did it all with an evil smile that made many of us fall in love with him in a brand new way. And finally on Survivor; Heroes vs. Villains, he transformed himself yet again — this time into a fairly likable, extremely hardworking and challenge-dominating player who took it upon himself to go up against Russell, the biggest villain of all-time.Some might say the karma of past betrayals finally caught up with B Rob and he went down hard. Probably for the last time. Rob… you will be missed. There is silence in the stadium. Then… a shout from the cheap seats. RUSSELL HANTZ What about me??!!! Where’s the love for me? I’m the one took him down. I’m Russell Hantz, the greatest Survivor of allllll-time. I’m that good. Russell hops down the steps toward the railing and without hesitating leaps from the 300 section. It is a long way down to the field, but miraculously he lands in the middle of center field and bounces up on his feet unharmed. The crowd recognizes him as the man who took down Boston Rob. As expected, the Boston crowd quickly becomes a vigilante group and takes after the gap toothed troll. In a flash, he is gone for there is still more game to play on Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains. FADE OUT
My therapist says that time heals everything, but I’m not sure how much time it will take to heal this loss. I miss him already. I miss the battle. Russell vs. Boston Rob will go down as one of the greatest battles of all time. I want them back. Now. We should do an entire season centered around Boston Rob vs. Russell. Give them some war clubs, put them in a gladiator ring. Amber could be the ring girl. She’s dressed the same way she was in Maxim (if you haven’t seen it go back and check it out) but instead of being the sexy ring girl, this time she’s a mom, carrying child. She represents hope for the world. Goodness. Coach would be Rob’s consigliore, his right hand man. At the other end of the arena, Russell would stand alone. No friends. No allies. The promos are written, the audience would be there. Right? If I told you right now that next season we’d have Russell and Rob back again, wouldn’t you be intrigued? Okay, enough of my clear favoritism! Man, I’m so in sync with you guys I can hear your comments already. “Why don’t you ever talk about how awesome Candace is?” “Jeff, relax, Rob is already married!” “Why do you love all the villains and hate all the heroes?” Maybe it’s time for me to do a quick recap of everybody left in the game: J.T. Still like him even though he is clearly playing in a way that could easily earn him a spot on the villain tribe. A friend of mine just told me that J.T. is her favorite, and she feels like she has the best husband because he’s the perfect combination of “J.T., Tyson and Boston Rob.” Not really sure what it means, but in this time of mourning I believe it is best to just share everything. COACH Hmm. How can I say it in a new way. I can’t. I love Coach. Always loved Coach. I still want to develop a show centered around “Tales of The Dragon Slayer.” But right now The Dragon Slayer is depressed. He’s lost his way. As much as he wants to live by a code, he finds himself trapped in a corner on a game called Survivor and there appears no way out. If this were a movie, this would be the end of Act II when all seems lost. Is it? Or can he rise up from the ashes and be reborn yet again? CANDACE Ah, man… I just got bored doing this recap. Sorry. I promise next time to talk about how the awesomeness of Candace. And she is awesome. Seriously. COACH AND JERRI SITTING IN A TREE, K-I-S-S-I-N-G….
Does anybody else think Jerri and Coach might actually have a shot at making it as a couple? I do. Seriously, I do. No, really… I do. If they could each just open their arms, let down their guard, release judgments and simply accept the other, this could be something amazing. (Come to think of it, if I could do that in my own life it’d be pretty amazing.) Coach and Jerri just look like they should be together. I can see them trekking across the Australian Outback with the sun beating down on their necks, sweat pouring off their bodies as they stop to take… their last… sip… of water. Stranded with no transportation, no food and now no water, they must rely on each other to provide shade, comfort, and love. I can see the poster for the movie. Coach… his arms raised in a Dragon Slayer pose, a touch of blood dripping down his forearm hints at the epic battle we will witness. Jerri is dressed in a long flowing white cotton dress, slightly torn from her own battle or perhaps just their intense passion for one another. Her arms are wrapped around Coach’s thigh as she looks up adoringly at him. For the sequel, I can see them paddling down the Amazon as Coach re enacts being captured by an indigenous tribe, only this time Jerri arrives just in time to save the day. Coach sweeps her up in his arms, flexing his tattoos and grabbing a quick feel. They’ll make made love in the jungle, which we won’t show because in this version we want the PG-13 crowd. They emerge from the jungle, disheveled and once again sweaty as Coach is declared the new king of the land. In the third movie, Jerri surprises Coach picking him up in an old Buick as they drive across America to Burning Man where Jerri will perform a spoken word tribute to the love of her life while Ozzy — yes, Ozzy — plays bongos in the background. This is one of the greatest “could be” love stories of all time. Coach? Jerri? Are you listening to your hearts? Let go of your fears. Open your arms and your bodies and accept the other for all they are… and all they will never be. If you decide to marry, I will officiate and forego my normal $25 fee as my wedding gift to you both. RUSSELL IS THE COCKIEST SURVIVOR TO EVER PLAY THE GAME
Russell continues to flabbergast me in the most enjoyable and entertaining of ways. Calling out Courtney or Sandra as the “next to go home” right in front of their faces was one of the boldest moves I’ve ever seen anybody make in any game at any time. Wow. Give this man a wide berth cause if you don’t, he will take it. Let me tell you what I’m really learning from Russell — when you have nothing to fear, nothing at stake, you have all the power. Russell is truly only playing to win and it shows. He is so brazen. Russell is one helluva salesman. No, I am not going to stop talking about him because he’s absolutely fascinating. What’s even more amazing is that he is still in the game! For all the people that want to hate on him, he’s still in the game and Rob is gone. Tom is gone. James is gone. Stephenie is gone. Cirie is gone. He’s not just a crazy person, he’s a very intimidating, cunning and powerful player in this game. Can he win the game? Remains to be seen. He still lacks social grace. I doubt he has ever had it, probably never will. But that guy will empty your wallet before you ever know he had your hand in his pocket. BOSTON ROBS LAST WORDS
Rob: (to Coach) You’re a little man. I love how Rob went out. He didn’t pretend it didn’t matter, he didn’t say “good luck”, he simply said what was on his mind, the subtext of which was clear: Coach, you suck. Coach. Coach. Coach. I too am a bit dismayed. I will need time to sort through this emotionally. I will certainly need more therapy to help me understand and try to forgive. I may never see you the same way again. But I will still marry you and Jerri. Although at this point I’d feel more comfortable charging you the $25. See ya next week.
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62. "RE: Ep. 7 - Jeff's EW Blog" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-02-10 AT 10:53 AM (EST)P.S. In the Secret Scene, Courtney talks about how Danielle accuses her and Sandra of stealing her socks. (Sounds like Russell's up to his old tricks again.) And Rob is so nice that he gives his socks to her. I wonder if this ties in with the part about Danielle/Sandra/Courtney fighting in the new promo? ETA, here's the section of the promo transcript that I'm talking about: Sandra: "Why are you blaming me and Courtney?"
Danielle: "No!"
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67. "RE: Ep. 7 - Jeff's EW Blog" |
Ya think?!?
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71. "RE: Ep. 7 - Jeff's EW Blog" |
I think the proper etiquette is to post a link and only quote some of the highlights.
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72. "RE: Ep. 7 - Jeff's EW Blog" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-03-10 AT 06:25 PM (EST)Most boards do use that etiquette and actually this board has a rule about not posting full articles. VIII. DO NOT REPUBLISH COPYRIGHTED INFORMATION
(a) You should NOT post information that is copyrighted or owned by any individual or entity other than you on the discussion or news forums without the express consent of the owner. Fair use allows for short quotes when you are discussing the work of someone else. ETA: I do know of boards that do want people to copy and paste the whole articles regardless of copyright issues because they worry the links will go bad. This is not one of those boards.
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75. "RE: Ep. 7 - Jeff's EW Blog" |
OK, next week I'll just use the link and a few excerpts. Thanks for letting me know -- and I guess I should read the board rules too .
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76. "Episode 8" |
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/09/jeff-probst-survivor-heroes-vs-villains-ep-8/#more-63340Jeff on the new Villains tribe, “Leadership. Forward thinking. Sorely missing.” On Sandra and Russhell, “With this one little move, Sandra again revealed Russell’s Achilles heel. It’s not that he’s “stupid” as Sandra suggested. It’s his ego. Pure ego. In this case, it’s that he can’t stand thinking Coach is having second thoughts about him. Nobody has second thoughts about Russell Hantz. “I’m Russell Hantz!”. On how to play survivor, “Better to work with them, use their skills to get YOU as far in the game as you can go. Ride the horse in the direction it’s going… then when the end is in sight, you cut their neck. The short-sighted nature of so many Survivor players is the single biggest reason they never have a shot at the money.”
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77. "RE: Episode 8" |
Thanks Snidget! I thought this was a really good blog this week, because Jeff gives us several excellent foreshadowing clues:-- Re who's really in charge on the Villains tribe, Parv or Russell:
"Expect a battle for true leadership to emerge at some point because Parvati takes a back seat to nobody." (This reminds me of Parv's quote that she doesn't ride coattails.) -- Related to Parv/Russell and how it should have been a huge red flag to Russell when Parv said "it’s all “falling together perfectly" (because she's led an all-girls alliance before):
"Russell’s ego is so powerful that it overrode his usually spot-on strategic sense and has left him very vulnerable. At this moment in the game, Russell is in trouble. He doesn’t see it, but he is." -- Re JT getting busted for looking for the HII:
"J.T. has some major recovering to do...it didn’t go over well with the rest of the tribe that he went looking for the idol without telling anybody." AND ALSO: "It didn’t play out in this episode, but rest assured it will in future episodes." -- Re Sandra: "Sandra is really underestimated...Strategy is all about timing, and Sandra is very good at gauging the right time to stir up trouble....Brilliantly played." -- Re the Danielle/Russell relationship:
"Danielle is right (about it being the wrong time to vote out Coach). But....she’s the wrong person to make a suggestion to Russell. Russell doesn’t respect Danielle."
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LAST EDITED ON 04-16-10 AT 08:29 AM (EST)http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/16/jeff-probst-blogs-survivor-heroes-vs-villains-episode-9/ Jeff/Production's take on the letter/idolswap. JT’s hand-written letter to Russell is the kind of moment that reality producers dream about. You just can’t believe it’s really happening and you hold your breath that he won’t change his mind. (By the way, you’re no doubt wondering where they got pen and paper? It was part of Amanda’s luxury item that they won in an earlier episode.) When the hand-off of the idol and the note finally happened the entire producing team popped a bottle of champagne. Okay that’s a lie, we don’t drink while shooting the show. But when we got back to basecamp. Whoooeee, it was party time! Actually, that’s another lie. When we get back to basecamp, most of us fall asleep at catering. Okay, fine… that too is a lie, a lot of us avoid catering because it’s not the kind of catering you’re imagining. It’s more like Army catering. Hold your plate out and take what’s given to you. So there wasn’t really any formal celebration. But inside, we were really jazzed.
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83. "RE: Stephen Fishbach's Ep. 9 blog " |
The idea is not bad, but the Heros needed to know if there really was a female alliance. Russell played JT and Colby like a champ. I might not like Russell but he deseves praise for his play so far.
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87. "RE: Stephen Fishbach's Ep. 9 blog " |
First, he acted the part.
Second, he booted Coach.
Third, he went and shook JT's hand after the reward challenge, giving JT the idea for the transfer.
Fourth, Colby said he was convinced they were doing the right thing after talking to Russell so again, he played the part perfectly out on the raft.
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86. "RE: Stephen Fishbach's Ep. 9 blog " |
They were also ignorant of past Survivor history. Had they remembered that, with a similar large advantage, the women remaining in Vanuatu turned on and cannibalized each other rather than ax Chris, the last remaining man in that season, they might not have assumed that the Villain women would automatically boot RussHell if he didn't have an idol.
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88. "Episode 10" |
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/23/jeff-probst-blog-ep-10/Parvati is ballsy, right? Wow. She is knowingly double-crossing the one guy everybody else fears. You know what that tells me? She’s not afraid. Parvati is extremely confident. She smelled Amanda’s bullsh*t and she doesn’t fear Russell’s. Could Parvati win this game again? Maybe. Or maybe by me suggesting it, it means she won’t. Or maybe I just gave away that she did. Could Sandra win this game? Jerri? What about Rupert? Danielle? Amanda? Candice? Colby? JT? (Oops, sorry JT). Did I miss anybody? THE AFTERMATH Oh, there will be a big aftermath with Russell and Parvati. You saw him mouth to her at Tribal, “You got some explaining to do.” Russell does not suffer fools lightly, especially when he is his own fool. He’s mad. Burn your house down mad. This will be their first lovers quarrel. Yes, I know they’re not technically lovers, but in the game of Survivor, they’re more than lovers, they’re married and this will result in a major spat.
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90. "RE: Episode 10" |
Also, when he rattled off names and then asked, 'am I missing someone?' he missed RussHell........
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93. "RE: Episode 10" |
In one of the online clips, I think it is Parvarti who says that the Heroes think they have it in the bag since Russell is now on their side. Candice must have been confident in their numbers in order to step down.
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96. "RE: Episode 10" |
Michel, regarding Candice: Yeah, I know what she did in Cook Islands, but this was a different situation -- don't you agree? Plain and simple, she and the Heroes were cocky and felt like they didn't need the IC win. Usually when you get a scolding by Jeff for being overconfident and stepping out of a challenge, it's foreshadowing that you're doing something dumb. The Heroes should have realized that with 1 or possibly 2 HIIs in play, plus 1 Villain having immunity, they were in effect playing Russian Roulette with their target choice and could increase their odds considerably by having someone on the Heroes team win immunity. With Danielle winning and only 4 other Villians remaining, that in effect limited their options. If Candice stuck it out and won IC, would Parv have felt as confident in passing off 2 HIIs? Granted, Candice herself was not in danger at this TC, since she knew JT was the #1 target on the Heroes. And perhaps she didn't want to look like an immunity threat, but let's face it, after holding on for so long (and knowing her past performance in CI), it's a little late for that -- she should have pulled a Colby in that case. I really like Candice and had high hopes for her this season. Certainly, she's been the smartest one on the Heroes tribe. But this last episode I was disappointed....who knows, maybe she was just mentally gearing up for a flip.
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97. "RE: Episode 10" |
It wasn't different at all since Ozzy was the one that Raro wanted to eliminate first also. She stepped down after 2 hours in CI an hour and a half here so not much difference either. She was going against 2 players that looked strong so I didn't see it as being cocky and not wanting immunity. If it had been, she would have stepped down much sooner.
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98. "RE: Episode 10" |
Michel, your knowledge of Survivor history is certainly much stronger than mine, but here's what I recall as the major difference between CI and HvV: In CI, Candice's tribe was up 1 person at the merge (I think it was 5 Raro to the famous Aitu 4) so who won the IC was not as critical for her or her team since they had the numbers. (Of course Jonathon flipped after the merge, but that's another story.) Also, there was only 1 HII floating around in CI, not 2, as I recall. That's a huge difference, esp. this season with Candice's tribe going into the merge even and this particular TC being the "tiebreaker" so to speaker.I'll have to go read what you said in the Editing thread, but between Jeff calling Candice out, and then the "look" exchanged between Parv and Danielle when Candice said she was stepping down, I definitely felt like Candice was edited to look overconfident and that will come back to bite her in some way.
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102. "RE: Episode 10" |
JT and Colby's insider clips make it seem they weren't sure at all so either Amanda kept some info to herself or they thought Parvati was lying to her. She never showed Amanda her idol.
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95. "RE: Here's Stephen's Ep 10 People blog" |
Yeah, they should have picked Erinn so that she could win and I could say I saw that she was being edited as a winner all along! 
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103. "Ep . 11 blog" |
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/30/jeff-probst-blog-survivor-heroes-vs-villains-ep-11/Jeff has a warning for Danielle this week:
"Russell will not soon forget, check that, Russell will never forget that Parvati betrayed him and since Danielle was a part of that betrayal she better put her bicycle away too, cause this is only the first act and Spielberg always finishes with a bang." Here's what he had to say about the catfight and the HII clue:
"INSIGHT: From a rules point of view, there is no rule that covers something this unique. Neither Danielle nor Amanda had a clear-cut case of possession, so it was up in the air....I would never have let Danielle walk away with it by herself. Never." RE Amanda: "Amanda gave the clue back because she wasn’t strong enough to stand up for herself. It continues to be Amanda’s Achilles heel in life." Interesting tidbit about HIIs next season: "Next season it will take more than just looking under a rock to find a hidden idol. I won’t give away what we’re doing, but in planning our creative for next season we coined a phrase, “The Russell Factor” and it influenced how we will play the hidden idol next season." P.S. He confirms that next week is 2 TCs, 2 boots.
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104. "Fishbach's Blog Ep . 11" |
http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/04/30/survivor-russell-hantz-candice-woodcock-stephen-fishbach/#more-27827 on Rupert
This whole season, the one-time pirate has seemed less like Blackbeard, more like Captain Crunch: complaining about his toe, obsessing over what it means to be a Hero, regulating the banana stash. Too funny on Candace: Flip-floppers have a nasty way of ending up voted out next, as neither group particularly trusts them. oh yeah, here it comes It's funny that neither Stephen or Jeff really say anything about Colby for phoning it in this season.
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105. "Phoning it in, my @$$" |
Colby might be doing what some refer to as "phoning it in", but how the bloody hell can anybody call it "phoning it in" when the effer is still there after 30 days and several other more aggressive players have been gone for several TC's now. All that matters is the results you get, and how you got there, as long as it was within the rules, means precisely jack squat.
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106. "RE: Phoning it in, my @$$" |
Oh, that's right. And Colby did, after all, win the table shuffleboard challenge. Of course, he did need to take a nap afterward - but, as you say, he is still there. *snooze*
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108. "RE: Phoning it in, my @$$" |
Regardless why he's still there, the fact that Colby is still there is really all that matters. If they continue to, as you put it, "forget to eliminate him", they'll find themselves on the jury and looking at him up front being questioned at the final TC, and if he gets that far, saying that he "phoned it in" begs the question, "If he phoned it in, what the bloody hell did the rest of them do?"
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05-03-10, 08:41 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: Phoning it in, my @$$" |
I get your point but we are talking about different things. His game is pathetic and even winning wouldn't change that. Others are trying at least. I certainly hope the million won't be going to someone who has been sleepwalking through Samoa.
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110. "RE: Phoning it in, my @$$" |
If somebody who used Colby's style of play won the million, calling it "sleepwalking" would be inaccurate. "Staying the hell out of trouble" would be more like it. Yeah, I know that "coattail riding" and "flying under the radar" are styles of playing Survivor that generate a lot of contempt on boards such as these. What those who are judgemental of castaways' styles of play fail to realize is that if you win a hockey game 5-0, it doesn't mean squat if 5 shots is all you took. All that matters is that you put your 5 in the goal and the opposition didn't put any in. I guess what I'm driving at is that how effective a player you are is all that matters, and how ugly your style or methods may be are completely irrelevant.
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05-04-10, 08:09 AM (EST)
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111. "RE: Phoning it in." |
But see, I don't think playing UTR or riding coattails is a bad strategy. I think Vecepia was a smart player. I enjoyed Natalie's game last season because she analyzed the situation, realized what was best for her and followed through. Colby isn't even doing that. He has no plan and whatever feeble attempts he's made have amounted to nothing.
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113. "RE: Phoning it in." |
The ONLY reason Colby and/or Rupert are still in the game is that NEITHER of them is a threat.
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119. "RE: Phoning it in, my @$$" |
He's not UTR, he hasn't had any confessionals about his game or did I miss something? Possible. He got off the pole before the most notorious challenge challenged player Sandra, in what a minute because he thought it was like the foot peg challenge and why bother, that's phoning it in IMO. The guy won the non-air hockey challenge, he's said he wanted to go way back at the beginning. If he'd played like this in his other seasons he would not have been invited to A$$amoa or am I missing something.? 
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116. "RE: Fishbach's Blog Ep . 11" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-04-10 AT 10:02 PM (EST)Survivor isn't an objective exercise. There is no point system that consistently rewards or penalizes behaviors. It is a social/political contest that relies, in its initial - primary - stages and ultimately in its - general - election on the individual value system of each member of the society. In other words, the praise or blame for the quality of its choices rests solely with the collective. And as for those value systems, I would like to think that my own would be very much like JT's: my vote would go to the player who, in my opinion, did the most with the hand that he, or she, was dealt. And if I were one of the finalists, my FTC performance would be the one skill set I'd practiced more than any other: I'm big on overcoming ... ETA: What I've tried to say is that I think that Survivor casts, crew and viewers always get precisely what they deserve. 
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117. "RE: Fishbach's Blog Ep . 11" |
Nice synopsis, Georjanna.
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118. "RE: Fishbach's Blog Ep . 11" |
Yep, the lack of any specific standard means every jury is going to have it's own collective value judgement just as each individual has their own things they value or do not value to make choices of.The trick of the jury, IMO, is knowing the other players well enough to know something about how they are going to judge you and answering the questions in a way you get the majority to vote for you no matter what you did. Some things never work. 1--Having no idea how you got to the final two/three usually doesn't win anyone over. Or having a version that doesn't line up with anyone else's reality. Even if you didn't exactly plan it, I think owning how you got their is always a better choice than being clueless about it. Sure there are lots of ways people get into the finale that aren't things people want to admit about themselves, but I think part of Natalie's success was that she owned how she got there. 2--Assuming no one has the right to be pissed off about how you got them out of the game, or they are idiots if they don't see your game the same way you do. A little bit of eating crow and humbling allowing others to have their own opinions and emotions can do a lot to get people to see past their hate.
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05-07-10, 02:34 AM (EST)
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125. "RE: Fishbach's Blog Ep . 11" |
Ultimate sovereignty is retained by the people, remember.Thank you so much! How silly of me to have forgotten that! Particularly in view of the fact that, because the Sign produces more judges than does any other, in discussing the seductive Libra personality in posts to this forum I've several times used Thomas Jefferson's "sapping and mining slyly and without alarm" interpretation of the Supreme Court's interaction with the foundations of the Constitution. As for jury nullification: I've sometimes liked it too. And that's why I referred to it as a Survivors' tactic. But I think that its beneficial effect on a society is proportional to the scarcity of its use.
BTW: Russell is Heroes vs Villains only Libra.
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126. "Episode 12" |
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/07/jeff-probst-blog-survivor-ep-12/There were a few themes this episode. Morality, hypocrisy and exhaustion. All three of them in full force.
... FIRST IMMUNITY CHALLENGE
I continued to be amazed at how quickly people will step out of a challenge for food. It happens season after season. People voluntarily stepping out of a challenge for immunity. Nuts. They always blame it on “I wouldn’t have lasted long anyway.” But after 20 seasons I believe it is simply evidence of Maslows Hierarchy Of Needs: Physiological needs – breathing, food, water – will always win out. Playing Survivor does not even make the top five.
... Rupert on the other hand has made his name and a decent living off being the morally superior one. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t stand on a pedestal and proclaim yourself the most moral of all only to hop off the pedestal the minute a better situation presents itself. Changing sides and changing your mind is fine – that’s basic Survivor. But you can’t have it both ways.
... SOMETHING FUN
At the live reunion show in NY on May 16th, we are going to crown one Survivor the winner of the “Dumbest Move” in the history of Survivor. You will decide who wins the trophy! Cast your vote at:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/vote/
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05-07-10, 10:39 AM (EST)
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127. "RE: Episode 12" |
Are they setting it up to give JT the money?
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05-07-10, 12:48 PM (EST)
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128. "RE: Episode 12" |
No way ! Eric still wins..hands down....lol
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05-07-10, 01:53 PM (EST)
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130. "RE: Episode 12" |
But doesn't Colby say that he'd still do the same thing today? Erik was a knucklehead and definitely wouldn't repeat his mistake. I vote for Erik!
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135. "RE: Episode 12" |
I vote Erik also - Colby's just gameless. Erik's was Dumb - capital D. JT's was a dumb move in hindsight but he had at least tried to play strategically.
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131. "RE: Episode 12" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-07-10 AT 02:30 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 05-07-10 AT 02:27 PM (EST) JTs move was dumb, but I can see how he could have thought that there was a women's alliance and wanted to save a potential swing vote. On the other hand, the moves made by Eric and Tyson were just plain stupid. Eric - Natalie even questions 'Who would be dumb enough to fall for that?' when Cherie tells her to ask Eric for the Immunity Necklace. Then from the jury, James proclaims that he has lost his title as the dumbest survivor. Tyson - Boston Rob has laid out a plan that is going to get rid of either Parvati or Russell. Then Russell says "I'm voting for Parvati, if you do then it's for sure she will go home." Tyson changes his vote and ends up going home. My vote is going to Tyson. Eric's move resulted in him being voted off. Tyson's move resulted in himself, Rob, Coach, and Courtney being voted off and us having to put up with Russell for the whole season. I would have loved to see Russell's face after he gave Parvati the HII and then was voted off.
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133. "RE: Episode 12" |
I have to disagree, only because I think that ultimately the "ROB" alliance would have still been o.k. if it were not for Coach and Jerri jumping ship...you can't blame that on Tyson's dumb move....They still had the numbers after Tyson left. Russell just manipulated Jerri and Coach. That's on them not Tyson....
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05-10-10, 06:49 PM (EST)
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138. "RE: Episode 12" |
But Tyson was even dumber in Tocantins than in Samoa.
"Hey guys, Brendan is making an alliance with the other side, let's vote him off so that we are the ones to give the power to the other side instead of him." The smart play for Tyson would have been to go to Brendan and make it so that he was aligned with the powerful new alliance. But both Tyson's stupid mistake came early on so they don't beat Erik who was in a great position to win if he had only kept the necklace. I still like Amazon Alex for the dumbest move ever. Telling Rob that he was being voted out at F4 while they were only at F7 was unprovoked, sheer stupidity. Erik at least considered that he needed to make 1 big move to have a case in front of the jury. He had been tagging along first behind Joel, then Ozzy, Amanda and finally Natalie. Anyone could have said that he was nothing but a mutt following the real players. Who would give a million dollars to a kid who looked and played like that?
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141. "RE: Episode 12" |
Has to be Tyson, Rob told him exactly what needed to be done, and the idiot over thought it and screwed up.
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143. "Jeff's EW.com blog for Ep. 13" |
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/14/jeff-probst-blog-ep-13/"There are 5 Survivors left. One hero and four villains. At this point I honestly believe it is anybody’s game. "COLBY: If he makes it to the end, he wins. Too many heroes on the jury that have too much animosity for the Villains. Despite not earning it, Colby could soon be a millionaire. "SANDRA: She has to make it to the end with Russell and/or Parvati to have any chance. Jerri and Colby will both beat her. "PARVATI: Could become the first two-timer winner. She’s that good and has played that good of a game. "RUSSELL: Could become first time back-to-back loser. He’s that good and that despised. For Russell to win it will take a jury that appreciates great game play and let’s go of the social, which Russell simply doesn’t have. One thing is for sure, he won’t have JT’s vote. Probably won’t have Rupert’s either. "JERRI: I think Jerri has a very good shot to win this. If she gets to the final with the right person/people she just might get rewarded for all of her growth and overall pretty decent strategic game play."
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145. "RE: Jeff's EW.com blog for Ep. 13" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-14-10 AT 11:47 AM (EST)Brak brak, more Colby love from Jeff. I'm surprised Jeff wasn't Colby's loved one. I could applaud Colby if what he was doing was laying back on the challenges, whining about how hard things were for him now that he's older to appear non-threatening. He's coasting right along and is the last of the Hero brigade so intentional or not something worked. He's doing something right even if he didn't live up to his and Jeff's hype. So stop it already Jeff, nobody else got any slack just give him a million as your favorite and get it over with. 
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