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"The missyae spoilers"
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This thread contains S19 spoilers which have been relayed to new Blows community member missyae. Do not read this if you do not want to be aware of outside information (however accurate or inaccurate).

Please keep all discussion of these and any other outside spoilers that may surface strictly in this thread.

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This text was originally posted at SurvivorSucks:

missyae Survivor 19 Spoilers

(10/04/09 12:45 AM)


The next player to be booted from the game will be Yasmin from Galu.

The next player that will be booted from Foa Foa when they go back to Tribal will be Ashley Trainer.

The next player to leave due to an injury will be Russell Swan from Galu. This will happen before the merge.

The merge will happen when there are 8 Galu members and 4 Foa Foa members. You can easily see which Galu members make it - all but Yasmin and Russell Swan.

The first boot after the merge will be Erik from Galu. The word I got on him was \'hothead\' and playing too aggressive.

Dont believe Jeff Probst when he pimps Natalie as if she is playing the game and might not be with The Evil One - she is clearly in his back pocket.

Laura is the one running things at Galu.

Shambo will get along with Russell H after the merge.

There will be more info to come.


missyae also says that Shambo does not make it to the finals, and got the impression that Russell S.'s medevac may be connected to an injury from his (pre-game) past.

FWIW, TDT seems to be giving the info some credence.



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 RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-06-09 1
   RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-06-09 2
 RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-06-09 3
   RE: The missyae spoilers CTgirl 10-06-09 4
       RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-06-09 8
           RE: The missyae spoilers Belle Book 10-06-09 14
   RE: The missyae spoilers Georjanna 10-06-09 5
       RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-06-09 9
           RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-07-09 15
 RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-06-09 6
   RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-06-09 7
       RE: The missyae spoilers Estee 10-06-09 10
           RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-06-09 11
           RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-07-09 19
       RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-06-09 12
           RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-06-09 13
   RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-07-09 21
 RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-07-09 16
   RE: The missyae spoilers vince3 10-07-09 17
       RE: The missyae spoilers television 10-07-09 18
           RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-07-09 20
               RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-07-09 22
                   RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-07-09 23
                   RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-07-09 24
                       RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-07-09 25
                           RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-07-09 26
                           RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-07-09 27
                               RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-07-09 28
                                   RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-07-09 29
                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-07-09 30
                                           RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-07-09 31
                                               RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-07-09 32
                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-07-09 33
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-07-09 34
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-07-09 35
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-07-09 36
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers emydi 10-07-09 37
                                                           RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-07-09 38
                                                               RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-07-09 39
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                                                               RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-07-09 42
                                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers CTgirl 10-07-09 43
                                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-08-09 45
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Belle Book 10-07-09 41
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-14-09 137
                                                           RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-14-09 139
                                                               RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-14-09 140
                                               RE: The missyae spoilers CTgirl 10-07-09 44
 RE: The missyae spoilers redbeard103152 10-08-09 46
   RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-08-09 47
       RE: The missyae spoilers vince3 10-08-09 48
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                   RE: The missyae spoilers vince3 10-08-09 51
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                           RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-08-09 65
       RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-08-09 52
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           RE: The missyae spoilers frisky 10-08-09 55
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                   RE: The missyae spoilers CTgirl 10-08-09 59
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                   RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-08-09 62
                       RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-08-09 63
                           RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-08-09 64
                               RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-08-09 66
                                   RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-08-09 67
                               RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-08-09 68
                                   RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-08-09 69
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                                           RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-08-09 71
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                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-08-09 73
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                                               RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-15-09 150
                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Belle Book 10-08-09 75
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                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers KwietOne 10-09-09 84
                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-09-09 85
                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-09-09 86
                                                           RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-09-09 87
                                                               RE: The missyae spoilers mman9000 10-09-09 88
                                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-09-09 89
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                                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-10-09 96
                                                                       RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-12-09 105
                                                               RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-16-09 167
                                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers Brownroach 10-16-09 170
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                                                   RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-15-09 149
 Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes PepeLePew13 10-10-09 92
   RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes LFJ 10-10-09 94
       RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes Outfrontgirl 10-10-09 95
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 RE: The missyae spoilers Scarlett O Hara 10-10-09 100
 RE: The missyae spoilers SquidProQuo 10-11-09 101
   RE: The missyae spoilers Belle Book 10-11-09 102
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 RE: The missyae spoilers citywitch 10-12-09 104
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           RE: The missyae spoilers Outfrontgirl 10-12-09 108
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                   RE: The missyae spoilers CTgirl 10-13-09 114
                       RE: The missyae spoilers missyae 10-13-09 115
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                   RE: The missyae spoilers goldenmike4393 10-13-09 118
 Jaison/Liz frisky 10-13-09 120
   RE: Jaison/Liz Outfrontgirl 10-13-09 121
   RE: Jaison/Liz wildworld 10-13-09 122
       RE: Jaison/Liz frisky 10-13-09 123
           RE: Jaison/Liz missyae 10-14-09 124
               RE: Jaison/Liz Outfrontgirl 10-14-09 125
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                                               RE: Jaison/Liz missyae 10-15-09 144
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                                                   RE: Jaison/Liz goldenmike4393 10-15-09 147
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                                                               RE: Jaison/Liz vince3 10-16-09 174
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 This is here and there is there IceCat 10-15-09 146
   Thank you dabo 10-15-09 151
       RE: Thank you Brownroach 10-15-09 152
       RE: Thank you AyaK 10-16-09 164
 a question Outfrontgirl 10-15-09 153
   RE: a question missyae 10-15-09 154
       RE: a question emydi 10-16-09 155
   RE: a question Brownroach 10-16-09 156
       RE: a question emydi 10-16-09 157
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                           RE: a question Georjanna 10-16-09 163
                               RE: a question Outfrontgirl 10-16-09 168
 Time for the "Part 2" thread AyaK 10-16-09 165
   RE: Time for the "Part 2" thread Brownroach 10-16-09 166
   RE: Time for the "Part 2" thread Outfrontgirl 10-16-09 169
 New boot order? SquidProQuo 10-16-09 173
   RE: New boot order? Outfrontgirl 10-17-09 176
       RE: New boot order? SquidProQuo 10-17-09 177
           RE: New boot order? missyae 10-17-09 178

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1. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-09 AT 02:21 PM (EST)

If she's right on these predictions, I look forward to seeing her S20 spoilers play out! She has several over there.

Thanks BR

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2. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I saw she had some info about S20 too but I didn't have a chance to read it yet.


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3. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-06-09 AT 03:49 PM (EST)

and from the Roll with it spoiler we know Oct 22 Ep 6 is when they are afraid for RusSwell does he leave that week or the next?

So before merge at F12 we have:

Ep 4 Yasmin
Ep5 Ashley (will still have 5 for Ep 6 RC that doesn't happen)
Ep6or7 RusSwell is medivaced
Ep6or7 Other FoaF is booted Jaison?Natalie?Liz?


I knew RusSwell was the other medivac! somewhere at the beginning of the season I said this somewhere...

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4. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
If his dehydration is bad enough that they stop and don't continue a reward, then I would think RusSwell leaves in episode 6.

My bet is on Jaison leaving after Ashley. I think the previews are showing us RusHell planting the seeds for his boot. It'll be close to merge and they could get rid of him (remember he said the girls would never vote them out because they need the guys strength?!)

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8. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
i think so too now...Jaison had his "powerful" moment like TDT says. I thought Ben was longer for the game bc of what Jiffy said that he was a big character so the same could happen with Jaison. Also if Ashley goes next week then RussHell can afford to boot Jaison bc no threat of chick alliance
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14. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I also think that of the others from Foa Foa, Jaison is going home. Jaison is RussHell's biggest threat so Jaison's going home before the merge.

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5. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I knew RusSwell was the other medivac! somewhere at the beginning of the season I said this somewhere...


Yes, you did! ...

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9. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks G...I said it was a hunch there
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15. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Danielle at Survival Skills posted a chop of Yasmin and Russell S in front of the Size Matters promo shot, around the time of the premiere. Wasn't that reposted here? There was spec that it meant they were the two medivacs. That put Russell S on my medivac radar from the get-go, so no opportunity to guess it on my own. Not sure I would have.

If missyae is correct (seems plausible), then Danielle's chop was showing us the two Galu who do NOT make jury.


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6. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-06-09 AT 05:39 PM (EST)

Thank you all.
I am bummed that we have another person willing to put out a boot list.
Much prefer source spoilers with class who offer the boot the day of the episode, if at all. This will ruin the fun for the next two seasons if it's correct. Sigh.

Of course I will read it, because otherwise I'm not on a level playing field.

As for the predictions of the next boots, Yasmin was going to be my vote anyway. Russ S is on thin ice but the tribe needs him.

I already said here that Ashley would be the next Foa Foa boot, not Jaison. Jaison is the misdirection. However, he is the perfect boot to be made when they know merge is around the corner.

Note on the obvious:
if missyae has spoilage from both seasons, then it is crew/production (unless it's from Russell H, the only cast member in common.


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7. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
OK, just went to Sucks and was reading SurvivorsUnite spoilers, and he basically says it is Russell H bragging about both S19 and S20.

Should SU's spoilers go in this topic or do we want a separate one?


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10. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
it is Russell H bragging about both S19 and S20

But is he rich enough to pay his contract penalty?

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11. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-06-09 AT 06:23 PM (EST)

I know, I was thinking that. It would be awesome if they finally enforced it.
But hey, ASS was completely blabbed to Jeff Varner, most likely by Alicia, and nothing happened.


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19. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Because of the monetary aspect, I suspect it's crew-misdirection toward RussHELL.
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12. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hi ofg --

I said all the outside spoilers could go in this thread but since you already started another one that's fine.

I think we should do one separate thread for all the S20 spoilers though -- no need to have two going.


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13. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Sorry, BR, I missed that comment.

As no one responded right away, I made the call to go separate because
a) SU has yet to be backed up or come through on time with the final name
b) missyae does not name the F4 so far, and people might want to read these early spoilers but not the F4.

So, I didn't want to plunk a F4 into an ongoing topic and bum anyone out who stumbled over it. I wanted F4 up in neon on the topic title.


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21. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
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>I am bummed that we have
>another person willing to put
>out a boot list.
>Much prefer source spoilers with class
>who offer the boot the
>day of the episode, if
>at all. This will
>ruin the fun for the
>next two seasons if it's
>correct. Sigh.

OFG, I couldn't agree with you more. I knew the Missyae and SurvivorUnited spoilers were there, but I've been avoiding reading/posting them because I think it impacts the fun of spoiling and everyone just tries to retro-fit and justify the boot list vs. looking at things objectively, with fresh eyes.

Per my other post, I'm really hoping that Russhell is just playing with everyone and is throwing in some curve balls and "Russell Seed" lies. Apparently there are discrepancies between SurvivorUnited and Missyae.

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16. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Having read the topic now ...

She says the idea of Russell S's prior injury came from her leading with the question if he was the one and she led with the injury - getting the reply YES. So all she really got was a Yes that it's RS who gets medivacced.

She also says there will be no additional boot in Ep 6. That would make Ep 8 the merge, if merge is at F12 as she says.

I had not mentioned this here, but if you check the CBS Fantasy Game FAQ, it says when the Ponderosa clips will begin, which should be Ep 8 if I read it right. (You can look it up.) They start with the first juror boot, of course, so that would mean we can only lose one player per ep until then. Anyway, it works with her spoilers.

She also states that Russell H is true to his real alliances, that he picks women to protect and advance. That he does not betray those who stick with him, and does the same sort of strategy in S20.

She also has this:
>>>I will give you a quote from a certain player. I cant say who the quote was spoken to but you can figure out who said it for yourself. Quote - There are 2 phases to Survivor - One is getting before the jury and the other is pleading your case. I am damn good at the first one but not so good with the second one.


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17. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Miss 2nd place back to back: Amanda from China/FvF
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18. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Actually she was 3rd in China, using her amazing talking skills to talk her way in the eyes of the jury below the lovable Courtney Yates.
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20. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-09 AT 02:04 PM (EST)

While the Missyae clue that OFG notes above seems to obviously point to Amanda, when someone asks her directly if it is indeed Amanda, she responded:

Missyae:
LOL - I guess that could apply to Amanda after her last performance but - no - I was not talking about Amanda. If it was Amanda I would have probably posted that over on the 20 board - right?

So it appears that her tie is RussHell, not Amanda. She also says that RussHell has already been invited back for any future all-star editions.

Personally, I think it would be hilarious if Russell is behind all this and is lying, just to mess with people's heads...another RussHell seed for the spoilers .

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Hi guys!! I received a nice invite last night to come check your message board out from one of you nice members. I think it was OFG? Anyway this looks like a nice group!
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23. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
welcome! OFG is the girl here!! She even has her own theory!

you seem to have some nice little tidbits of info....

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24. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-09 AT 03:40 PM (EST)

Hi, missyae -- Welcome to SurvivorBlows!

As you can see, I was intrigued by your spoiler posts at Sucks so I brought the info over here for us to discuss.

A question: are you/will you be getting more updates on S19 spoilage as the episodes air, or have you already found out everything you will be able to find out?


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25. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I agree about OFG, I exchanged a couple of messages with her and she is smart! Hiya Brownroach!! To answer your question, I do have more info and I do expect to get more (I hope, I hope!). I have lots of info on 20 too. I don't know if you have a spoiler forum for 20 yet? Guess I will look around a little bit
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26. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
We don't have a separate S20 forum. We have one thread about the S20 cast, which is probably a few pages back.

I'll start a new thread specifically for S20 spoilers and nothing else -- give me a few minutes...


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27. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
yes we do missy but it's just casting...we don't have one for game spoilers

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/7228.shtml


I bumped it back up to page 1

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28. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okay, I will let you set up the topic for 20 spoilers and will post my info in there. I posted it on another 'board' and I can post the info here too. You will have to let me know how much info you want because I have lots of info from all different stages of the game. I have the tribes, whats new on the flags, the colors, the dumbest move, the Evil Alliance, lots of good stuff. But I dont want to post stuff that you guys dont wanna see yet.
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29. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
my vote is for you to post it but with a warning DON'T go if you don't wanna know!
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30. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yes -- missyae, I set up a S20 spoiler thread with a big warning at the top. You can post whatever S20 info you want to in there.


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31. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okie Dokey!! I will post you guys some stuff on Survivor 20 on that board. I just talked to your goodwill ambassador OFG again, she sure is a sweetie! Thanks to both of you for being so nice too, that is a very pleasant change and wont be forgotten. Thank you!
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32. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
You're welcome, now get posting
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33. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okay, I have posted some stuff over on the Survivor 20 Spoiler board. I will check back on you guys tonight. Probably will not have anything new to add but I know some people who are really crazy about spoilers like to keep checking back and I dont like to leave people hanging so I usually will at least stop in and say goodnight so people will not just be sitting and waiting. I also will not tell you I am going to have certain info on a certain day and not do it.

Also if anyone has been reading on that other board who a certain someone says will make the final 3 on Survivor 19, that did not come from me. I did not say those people would be 2 of the final 3. They named Natalie as 1 of the finalists and then hinted of Russell to be another and promised to post the last of the 3 and also the 4th place finisher on a certain day and never did. I am not saying those 2 are not in the finals. I am just saying that did not come from me.

I was told the merge happens with 8 Galu members and 4 Foa Foa. After the merge the first boot is Erik from the original Galu tribe. The quote I heard was he was a 'hothead.'

Russell Swan will be the next medivac and he is the player to go down during the challenge when they had to stop it. When I first was told this I had asked the question if it was due to a prior injury or condition and the answer was 'yes'. I took this to be injury but it appears it is more than likely dehydration and/or blood pressure problems.

As brownroach posted, I was told Yasmin leaves this week and the next time Foa Foa goes to tribal council, Ashley leaves.

One other thing I was told about Russell's gameplay is that he might be labeled a villain but he did remain loyal to his real alliance.

I was also told Laura is the one who is running things at Galu.

I had asked if she was the next medivac because of her achilles problem but was told it was Russell Swan.

So all Galu makes the merge except for Yasmin and Russell.

Shambo does not make the finals.

When I asked the question about whether there was in fact a fake idol made and Shambo found it, I was told 'you will be the first to know.' I have no clue what that means, lol. I guess one of the sources thinks I will figure it out, I don't know? Anyone else know?

I think you posted most everything I had said about 19. If I think of something else I might have missed or you missed, I will post it later.

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34. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks for all this, missyae, I don't think you need to feel like you have to check in here every single day if you don't have any new info or just don't feel like it. We're a fairly patient crew.

And a number of us look at the other boards so we manage to keep on top of things. But we are glad to have you as part of our community too.


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35. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-09 AT 12:08 PM (EST)

Amendment:

When you say Shambo doesn't make it to finals does that mean F4? I heard she was "invited back" after S19 and rejected...

Thank you for clarifying the fact that the "claim" of F4 did not come from you.... You don't want discredit!

We hear it as: RussHELL, Natalie, and Liz. It sounds reasonable, but we will need more info or corroboration from other reputable sources....

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36. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-09 AT 07:54 PM (EST)

Hi missyae!

Sorry I'm late to the party. I live in a far away time zone.
I told you these are good people.

Happy to see all is going well and people are CIVIL unlike a certain board where rudeness prevails all too often.

ETA You don't have to answer this but I am wondering whether to call you him or her. Because of the missy. But maybe it means MiSS YA and you're a guy, and then calling you missy is off base! Not trying to pry; just makes it easier not to type him/her all the time.

My name makes my status pretty clear.


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37. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks missy and like BR said, there is no need for you to check in every night.
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38. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hi OFG! Yes, you told me how nice the people were and you were not joking! The missy stands for Melissa, the AE are initials. I never even thought about miss ya until I saw someone post it on that other board.

I have a couple of new tidbits but neither really has anything to do with how far any of the players go and I have a question to you guys about part of it.

I sent a couple of questions to try to find out a little bit more. One of the questions was if they remembered any of the family members, like who showed up for who. I thought that would narrow down how many were left at that point. I also asked if they gave a car away.

My answer was this - NO VISITS - NO CARS.

Have they ever had a season where they did not have a family visit? I am sure you guys would know that better than me.

I also tried to get more clarification on Russell Swan and if he had a pre-existing condition as to what happens to him. I was once again told YES. All I can figure out is he must have a history of blood pressure problems?

I did send back word about being confused about there not being a family visit because I never even considered that as a possibility.

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39. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hi Missyae,

As I recall, they did not have a family visit on the last All Stars season either (the one with Lex, Kathy, Rob, etc. and Amber won)...but I could be wrong. Can anyone else confirm this?

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40. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Missyae, I just noticed your comment about the fake idol. I'm really excited about the possibility that it could come into play in some way on a future episode (even if it's not at Tribal Council).

I'm not sure what "you will be the first to know" means, but I'm guessing by this that there must indeed be one, otherwise I would think that your source would have denied it or cleared things up. Hopefully they will tell you more soon! Thanks.

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42. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks again!
Right, don't feel obligated to check in before you go to bed. We are not demanding like entitled junior high schoolers. We come and go at will, lol

There was no family visit in S3 - Africa.
There was a family visit in ASS
I remember Rob Mariano's brother, Amber's mother, Alicia's mother (I think), Tom's son, Rupert's wife, Jenna Lewis's ... brother, I think. ShiiAnn bawling when she saw her Mom.

Jeff Probst loves the love, as he calls the FV. I am shocked. Budget cuts?

The car prize was a sponsorship, and they lost that the S13 season. I believe Terry Deitz won the last car to be given away ... and then succumbed to the car winner curse after winning every single immunity challenge until the end.


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43. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Wasn't Yau Man/Dreamz that last person to win a car? Which also reminds me, I'm pretty sure that Fiji didn't have a family visit either. That season was bad on so many levels, and here are two of the many examples.
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45. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yes, you are right CTgirl. Of course. I blank on Fiji. SEG did lose its sponsorship with the Cook Islands. I remember well because it was rumored to be over the race tribe twist and Burnett or Probst denied it and said that GM pulled out long before they finalized the twist.

Then in S14 there was a car again, not sure who provided it. And that was the end.
I thought that Fiji had a family visit, but I can't say I really remember it.
Some seasons have moments - like Jonathan Penner giving his wife a big kiss even though Probst said the losers got no contact with loved ones.


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41. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Did your source tell you if Liz made the merge? That's all I really want to know right now.


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137. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Here is an "interesting" spoiler straight from the horses, I mean, host's mouth:

Russell Hantz is the closest thing to evil we've ever had on Survivor. The guy has got a diabolical mind. He's got this great big idea that if I sabotage my own tribe they'll be so weak they'll be out of the game. Well that might be true but so will you. It is a tribe game for a long time. Russell has either forgotten or is unaware that this is a social game.****He may get second, he damn sure aint gonna win.****

www.survivorfever.net/s19_jeff_probst_cast_assessment.html

I doubt Jeff would lie! RussHELL is NOT OUR SOLE SURVIVOR.

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139. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
The thing is, Jeff made that statement during the first few days of filming, so he didn't know the outcome. It is interesting that he left that statement in when they edited together the first impressions video, which must have been after filming.

Jeff did say, after the filming, that it's been a long time since someone like Hatch stood up and told the jury he kicked their ass and they should give him the money. That could change this season. (I don't have the exact quote, but it's very close.) missyae says Russ will tell the jury he Mike Tyson'd them. Basically the same thing.

Hatch won, of course, but I think he did so because Kelly had alienated people too. I don't know if he wins or not. If not, the editors are doing a crummy job of developing the winner's character.


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140. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I hope you're right! I am All RussHELL All The Time. I have grown to love that little wart with the crusty underwear.
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44. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks for taking the time to update us on what you know missyae.

I would really rather not know what's going to happen, but if a source is going to talk, you might as well be the one to tell us.

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46. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Missyae Thanks for bringing your information to the best board on the internet. I am looking forward to reading any more information that you may receive.
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47. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
It's just so nice to be able to post stuff and not have to dodge cans, bottles, knives, and slurs all the time!

I don't know if this fits everyone's speculation but I was told tonight the order of events about to happen is like this.

Yasmin voted out
Russell S. goes down
Ashley voted out
1 other Foa voted out
merge

I was thinking someone said they thought Russell going down would be in episode 6?

Do I need to check into this further?

So thats the news tonight. No family visit, no cars given away, and this order of events. Oh and when Foa finally wins a challenge they don't get to visit Galu's camp.

Guess that's it for now gang!

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48. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I think the current speculation about RusSwell is that he's not only the "scariest evac. ever" that Jiffy mentioned in pre-season interviews, but also he's the evac. mentioned in the EW article about the Episode 6 RC that starts but doesn't finish, Roll With It........

However, since Yasmin will be voted out tonight (October 8), and that's Episode 4, I think we have timing issues.......

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49. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hi missy and welcome

When Jeff says it's the scariest evac I wonder if he was talking about the health risk level or was bad weather part of the scare.


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50. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Re the EW article about the Ep 6 RC challenge:

I guess we all assumed that if Jeff stops the challenge and they never finish, that's got to be the scary evac. But I suppose it's possible that Russell could be med-vac'd for a different reason prior to this (Ep 5?), and then in Ep 6 someone else get dehyrdrated and it's serious enough to end the challenge but they do come around and stay in the game. (Didn't they give Mike an hour or so to improve before they made the call to evac?)

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51. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
That's entirely possible, Squid. In fact, given that both tribes might get hit hard with the rain, there may be members of both tribes dehydrated in the Roll With It challenge that warrant the challenge to be called off, and then they recover enough to continue in the game, and the Ep 6 Immunity, which might have that Reward tacked on........
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53. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Good point Vince -- wouldn't be surprised at all if several players get dehyrdrated after all the rain and that spinning. And if FF is down to 5 at that point, they wouldn't have anyone sitting out to sub in if someone goes down...so I guess they'd have to end the challenge.
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61. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I like this idea too vince..TDT is discounting missy's spoilier that RusSwell goes first then Ashley but this is a good possibility of how it may happen with all the rain...more than 1 gets dehydrated and they have to stop RC and then just make it a combined IC the next day after the dehydrated ones are "better"
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65. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
The show isn't being pre-empted next week for any reason, is it? Or is it possible that EW just got the airdate of the episode wrong?

Anyway, we'll see what the previews show tonight...


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52. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Bummer that FaoFao doesn't get to send a visitor over to Galu! I was eagerly awaiting Russhell going over there to shake things up with the 90210/yoga crowd . And I thought for sure he'd be the one to let the chicken out of the coop.

It doesn't seem fair that FF finally wins and doesn't get to send a visitor....maybe that's part of the RC award (vs. IC) now that they're no longer doing a combined challenge.

Thanks for all the updates Missyae!

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54. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Oh and when Foa finally wins a challenge they don't get to visit Galu's camp.

So this is because they switch to two challenges this week, and the visitor is sent in between the RC and the IC? We know Galu wins the RC because of the chickens. The first challenge Foa Foa wins will be tonight's IC.

They can't abscond with the visits altogether since Foa Foa still has to have an opportunity to receive a clue and search for the HII at Galu. They might not ever get it but it has to be available to them.


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55. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I agree, BR. This revelation has me puzzled.

Welcome, Missy! We're lapping up your info like hungry little kittens and I'm so glad you joined us! *falls to ground in dramatic curtsy*

Regarding checking in at night to let us know you're done -- I say pfft! You don't have to do that here.

Back to that Galu hidden immunity idol: we know Yasmin doesn't find it (probably didn't even try), Russ S. is a question mark (if he found it, what would happen after the medevac?), Erik couldn't have found it because he gets tossed quickly after the merge, and Shambo "doesn't make the finals." Those are the only people that we know of who have access to the clue information.

The only thing I can think of is that Shambo isn't as forthcoming with Erik as the previews would have us believe, and she is the castmate that the tribe turns on. Maybe she finds the idol, and it gets flushed out early on in the merge which leads to her certain demise prior to the finals.


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56. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
It has to be that the visit comes with reward. It makes more sense. Winning immunity from tribal council is a sufficient prize in itself, why should it come with an added bonus every week?

And I kind of doubt they planned to continue the tribal council sit-ins indefinitely.

So if RussSwell gets to send another visitor to Foa Foa I bet he'd send someone new, given his penchant for rotating all the players. I'm gonna guess Brett, just at random.


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57. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yep. Brett, John, Kelly...pretty much all of Galu are interchangeable at this point. Shambo is obviously the main character there (although Laura is calling the shots), so I think she goes deeper than all of them, which makes me think she finds the idol.

But then, she doesn't make the finals, and we know there is a final three, and one is a Galu. Isn't that what we know? lol

If that's the case, then there's one other "character" over at Galu that's being hidden right now. Who is it, and when will they rise up from "The Interchangeables?"


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58. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
But then, she doesn't make the finals, and we know there is a final three, and one is a Galu. Isn't that what we know? lol

Oh you mean *that other spoiler* that was left incomplete (I guess the poster was put to death by Mark Burnett after naming two of the final three).

Actually that poster said a Galu makes F4, not F3 -- the implication seeming to be that the third person in the finals is another Foa Foa. So that could be consistent with Shambo being the last Galu in the game but not making the finals.


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59. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I know this is being picky, but why let the first two sit in on tribal council if you weren't going to continue it until merge? Just send them back to their camp before tribal council. I like things to be consistent!

Going with Survivor history, the reward winner probably does get to pick someone. RusSwell probably plays spin the bottle to pick someone to go.

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60. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I agree they could have eliminated it completely. But the logic could be:

The people in the visited camp are supposed to think that the visitor is “spying” on them (and/or trying to set up future alliances). The sitting-in at TC fed into the “spying” aspect for the first two Eps, because, due to the single challenge, the visit had to occur while the losing tribe was plotting who to vote out. The visitor would potentially be privy to those discussions, so why not let them sit on the TC as well?

But the visit was technically part of the reward (as it usually is). So once they revert to two challenges, the visit comes after the RC.

I can't see them having a visitor at every TC up until the merge. It gives away too much backstory to the other tribe.


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62. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Re who RussSwell would choose as visitor:

It seems like RussSwell is focusing a lot on keeping the ladies happy, and he has sent 2 women as the visitor so far, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he sends another one of the gals. (Of course the yoga girls might perceive being sent away without the pillows and blankets as punishment vs. an opportunity to find the HII.) He might even send someone he trusts like Yasmin again, to get another clue.

On the other hand, I'd think the guys (esp. Eric) would be lobbying to be sent over, and RussSwell might want to appease them after his comfort choice last week.

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63. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-09 AT 05:33 PM (EST)

It can't be Erik because he's chasing the chicken at Galu camp which has to be after Galu wins reward but before Foa Foa loses immunity. wrong -- corrected below.


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64. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Couldn't the chicken chasing take place after IC too?

You are probably right in terms of timing....but I still think that Erik is playing hard, plus he's smart and would want to go over if possible so would lobby for it. (But RussSwell probably doesn't trust him and thus Erik's stuck chasing chickens!)

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66. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okay gang, I just received an email telling me I was getting a phone call because they are not sure about that order they gave me very late last night. I had mailed back stressting the point that order had to be wrong because of what was already out about Russell Swan going down in eppy 6. So I am going to try and get a little more stuff tied down later today/tonight.

Just speculating the most logical order right now would be

Yasmin
Ashley
Russell Swan
Foa Foa member
Merge
Erik

I think they just got Ashley and Russell Swan backwards in remembering it. I also will find out if its a situation where he leaves right away or maybe attempts another challenge. I think he leaves right away.

As far as Foa Foa not getting to go to Galu's campsite, I guess if that gets incorporated into the Reward Challenge instead of the Immunity Challenge, they would get screwed. But then they would not be able to attend the other teams Tribal. Really screwy. The reason I asked about that is I was trying to find out if Russell H. went to Galu and let the chickens out! Thats when I was told, they got screwed and didn't get to send anyone.

Hope I have more later today or tonight.

I guess I should have just waited to try to pin down the Russell Swan timing but it was odd to me hearing that order so I wanted to post it and see what you guys thought. Hopefully this source just got them backwards. I hope!

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67. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks Missyae, this makes more sense! And I can barely remember what I had for dinner last night, so I could definitely see how someone might forget the exact order of what happened months ago.
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68. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-08-09 AT 04:38 PM (EST)

Couldn't the chicken chasing take place after IC too?

Oh you're right I got confused and temporarily thought that Foa Foa was going to lose immunity again and then they wouldn't show Galu after the IC. Force of habit I guess.

I think Erik and the chicken probably happens between the challenges though.


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69. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Some new info gang!!

I was just told why there was confusion over the Russell Swan thingy.

When Russell goes down in the challenge - Foa Foa had a lead and thought they had it won.

BOTH tribes go to Tribal Council and sit and talk with Jeff and NOBODY is voted out. So when Russell Swan leaves - both tribes go to Tribal Council - NOBODY is voted out.

Maybe I can help that other unnamed 'spoiler' out on that other 'board' a little bit -

Jaison nor Liz are final 3.

Have I mentioned how ragged Mick was when this show ended?

After the merge - Galu members start to go after Russell H. immediately.

However Erik is the first person voted out after the merge and things settled down some.

The Galu tribe is not as tight as the Foa Foa tribe.

I think you can now figure out your final 3 and now that other 'spoiler' can come out of hiding and post - his - final 3 - hehe!

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70. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
There was a weight-loss spoiler for Mick early on. Interesting. We'll see if his story starts to pick up a bit.

So that does put RussSwell's evac in the Roll With It challenge Ep. Which is supposed to be in 2 weeks according to EW.

Thanks for the new stuff, missy.


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71. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Wow, big news -- thanks so much Missaye.

So looks like we're talking Russell, Natalie and Mick in the finals. Based on what we've seen from these 3 so far, I can't imagine how anyone on the jury could vote for anyone else but Russell in terms of game play. But then again, juries aren't always logical...and there's still a lot of game to play. Also, Mick is definitely more likeable and could make it a race, esp. if he excels in the challenges and/or flirts with the ladies....and perhaps Russhell makes enemies in how he gets rid of people?

Quite a comeback story for FaoFao, to go from 4 down at merge!

I wonder if this means that Russhell does indeed find the 2nd HII and gives it to Mick?? It would seem to me that Mick would be a big target for Galu after the merge....perhaps this is how he escapes being voted out and bumps a Galu instead (which would help FaoFao make up for the numbers)?

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72. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I just noticed on TDT (and posted in the Ep. 4 vidcaps thread) that for tonight's RC, the leaders of each tribe are asked to send 2 people on a 'special mission,' which turns out to be the "Do it yourself" Reward Challenge.

Very interesting that Mick chooses Natalie and Russhell to go with him...perhaps foreshadowing of their alliance? Can't wait to see the show tonight to see whether it's obvious or not.

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73. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
It's up on youtube.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX-fI8Ma8ZI

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74. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks GoldenMike!

So if it's a "do it yourself" RC, maybe that explains why there is no visitor this week? I think I read somewhere earlier (TV Guide?) that Jiffy isn't even there for this one.

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150. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
****and perhaps Russhell makes enemies in how he gets rid of people?****

It's universally understood that my favorite little wart has no social skills and this game involves social skills. RussHELL has a deficit.

I always wondered if the 'Norm Peterson' ploy would work on booting your way to $1 million... remember when Norm Peterson became a HR guy and had to fire folks? He'd let them know they were fired, he'd cry, and the firees would comfort him

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75. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
So Liz doesn't make Final 3? Darn! Still, I hope she makes the merge.


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76. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yes, I'm disappointed too.

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77. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I know some of you lurk on other boards, even post on them, so I wanted you to know the last post at 'that other board' made under missyae was from my husband. I think he's had enough of the names I have been called.

Also if still want spoilers, I have no problem with getting them for you. I do wish however if you could edit the title of the thread and remove 'that other board' name it might make it look nicer.

I know you might be wondering now how can Erik go right after the merge while he has the immunity idol. Well he does. He is the first boot after the merge.

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78. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-09 AT 09:11 PM (EST)

>I know you might be wondering
>now how can Erik go
>right after the merge while
>he has the immunity idol.


Yes, I was definitely wondering how that plays out -- his confessional about being around to play the HII on day 30 sure seemed to set him up for a downfall. I suppose he could go home with it in his pocket, because he thinks a FaoFao is getting booted. Or perhaps Shambo teams up with FaoFao to con him? Or maybe Shambo sells him that she needs it (although after tonight's episode, I seriously question how smart she is). Will be fun to watch what happens.

P.S. I had to go check out your husband's post....all I can say is, those rude people deserved it -- go hubby!


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79. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Long time lurker, first time poster. Missyae, like yourself, and for those of us that have watched the show from the start, like others before him....he just doesn't see it comin'. SquidProQuo, I too thought, when he said he'd be around to play the idol on day 30.....well....I somehow think not. How all that comes about remains to be seen....foreshadowing...definitely.
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81. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Welcome aboard, celtichound! I totally agree that it will be that cockiness that kills Erik. He is sure that with the idol, he's automatically safe until Day 30. Well, the problem is that if you don't play it, you're kinda screwed.
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82. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks frisky, not certain how often I can post (I have 6 & 11 year old Survivor fans, they enjoy the challenges...and not so much the blah..blah..blah, dada likes to pay more attention to the blah..blah ..blah..). But if I have the time and something halfways intelligent to add to the discussion....I will. As we well know,since the intro of the hidden immunity idol, more people have wasted it, than used it intelligently.
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83. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Welcome Celtichound! I'm a newbie too and also have a 10 yr. old Survivor fan, so I know what you mean about not having the time to post...it took me almost 10 years to get up the guts to start posting here. Hope you stick around! (And of course now we have Missyae's inside info.)
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80. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I just went over and checked out that thread and holy hell, Missy, how did you stay in that place so long? What a bunch of hooligans!

LMAO at your husband's post! Now they're all "OMG what's with the attitude?" It's like you're expected to be 1) exactly right 2) beholden to them 3) on time and 4) bent over to take a good spank when they feel like smacking you around.

Stay where you're appreciated.

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84. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
DAYM! I just came back from checking out the board, and I wonder the same thing. Just how did missyae handle herself on that board?
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85. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
i do wish however if you could edit the title of the thread and remove 'that other board' name it might make it look nicer.

missyae -- I edited it out of my original post but unfortunately, on this board, edits to a message don't display on the thread index; whatever was originally typed remains there. So you'll see the change when you open the thread but I'm afraid it's stuck on the index forever.

I'm leaving in the link to the thread for now. If you would prefer that I remove that too let me know.


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86. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
You can go ahead and delete the link. There will be nothing posted there that won't be posted here. In fact, quite the opposite will happen.
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87. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
We appreciate that Missyae!
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88. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
As long as you post them somewhere, I have no complaints at all.

Yet, for some reason, I have a feeling that Missyae's Final Three comment was more of an attempt to lure the other "spoiler" out of hiding instead of an actual confirmation that it is a Mick/Russell/Natalie F3. In fact, I think the only person (so far) that missyae has confirmed is F3 is Russell, and possibly Mick.

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89. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okay gang here is some new stuff for you. I hope you enjoy it. I am sure it will be copied, posted, and claimed elsewhere by others but this is the first posting on this information.

When the 4 players of Foa Foa who make the merge saw Erik find the hidden immunity idol last night, they were shocked. All four had no idea he ever had an immunity idol because when he was voted out first after the merge there was no talk of it.

Those 4 Foa Foa members say they were shocked to see the Galu members vote out one of their own for the first boot after the merge. They all thought one of them would be the target, most likely Russell. Now a couple of them think the reason Erik did get voted out that night was to flush out the idol. They think others found out somehow Erik had it because they say it made no sense to them that night that one of them was not targeted. Now they think they know why. Something else that made this even more amazing was that none of the Foa Foa members had individual immunity that night and Erik still went home.

I will go ahead and confirm something lots have speculated on, Shambo does flip after the merge and basically become one of Foa Foa. When she made her trip over to Foa Foa to visit we saw her bond with everyone except Russell. More tricky editing folks because Shambo and Russell were and are tight. In fact CBS checked with both of them about maybe doing The Amazing Race but Shambo had no interest. She is still nursing some neck and shoulder problems today. Funny little tidbit - she did think by urinating near the chickens, it would make them bond with her more.

Something else speculated on I can confirm - Ben and Russell did make a fake immunity idol and Shambo did find it. I do not know if it will come into play but I was led to think it will not. What I was told was the editors decided to go another route with it because they have spent so much time in the past with fake idols and also because it never had an impact on the game.

One other thing about immunity idols, Russell will use his.

Did you know Mick is still in his internship as an anesthesiologist? Nope, not a real doctor.

Something else everyone is being misled about is the new editing of Natalie. Probst mentions how smart she's playing and the editing last night was trying to lead us into that line of thinking, do not buy it. Her gameplay consists of trusting someone else to get her to the end.

I think I have already told you after Russell Swan went down they brought both tribes to Tribal Council but nobody was voted out. This is one thing the people who were involved with the show are wondering about. They are wondering if this Tribal will even be shown and if it is, will it mean there will be 2 Tribal Council's for that weekly episode.

Another question that popped up after last night's episode and Jeff's blog was - is it a final 2 or 3. On the show a player mentioned getting to the final 2 and in Jeff's blog he mentioned the possibility of could Natalie and Russell reach the final 2. Well I guess they love leading us astray because it will be a final 3.

If you wanna know exactly who those 3 players are just scroll down a little bit. I will give a small space now in case some of you do not want to know. Of course nobody is supposed to know who won but the players do call and mail each other so there is a really good idea of who won. As far as another 'spoiler' saying Russell H. did not receive any votes, someone is telling lies. Either that 'spoiler' is telling a lie, or people on the jury are telling a lie because some of them have stated who they voted for.

Scroll down for the final 3.

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So Galu has them outnumbered 8-4 and 3 of the 4 make it to the final 3. I was told after the merge there will be lots of scrambling around by the Foa Foa players and lots of strategy to get to the final three. I was told we have not seen any strategy yet but it is coming after the merge.

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90. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Wow, some great stuff tonight Missyae! I love getting all these insights and details into what went on behind the scenes -- it's so much better than just a boot list.

So sounds like Erik does go home with the HII in his pocket...very interesting that FaoFao didn't even know he had it....you'd think Shambo would have told them that she shared the clues, but then again maybe she didn't know for sure that Erik found it? My guess is that John did see him when he was napping last night, and told the rest of the 90210 alliance, so now they're gunning for him. (Plus they must have felt cocky going into the merge 8-4, so they could afford to lose one alpha male.)

Cannot wait to see how Russhell/FaoFao pull this off. What a great comeback.

Can you confirm that Shambo is F4? Also, any insights on what happens to Liz? (I'm assuming she's the other FaoFao that makes it to the merge....or could it be Jaison?)

Love the fact that Russell will use his HII...better than going home with it in his pocket .

Thanks again and please keep sharing.

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91. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yeah, it looked like John was secretly observing Eric looking for the idol, so John probably did spill the beans to the rest of the tribe (minus possibly Shambo) about the idol. Besides, they can afford to lose one person (in their minds), because even if Shambo flips, they'd still have a 6-5 advantage.

That makes me wonder if someone else flips over to the Foa Foa side post-merge, or does Russell play his idol to even things up?

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93. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yeah, I want to know what happened to Liz. Did she make the merge or did Jaison?


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96. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
It would make sense for Erik to go this way. He was already a classic merge boot and then he found the idol. He has been shown on the outside of the Galu clique, so it makes sense they would try to blindside him.

As a general comment, it's amazing these strong guys like Ozzy and James think they can hold on to an idol to get to F5. They need to play if if they don't win immunity, and they don't seem to learn from the experience of others.

I'm sure Terry Deitz would have played the idol at any TC where he didn't win immunity.

It's not clear to me what Liz's edit is about. It seems like Russell is already at odds with her, so she could be a casualty. Ashley, Jaison, Liz - all on thin ice.

I would say that's good for Mick, to have three people in front of him who have irked Russell. It is starting to become apparent how Mick could get far in the game.

I would think Russell needs to use his idol to beat the odds.
4 FF plus Shambo = 5. Galu minus Erik and Shambo = 6.
I could see Galu taking out Dave.

It was Dave and Erik who spoke against John in Ep 1. Perhaps John, who seems tight in the clique, will outlast them both, which would give some meaning to those Ep 1 confessionals.
But boy would it be dumb of Galu to go to 5-5. They should take out another Foa Foa if they get to 5-6.

Best time to use the idol is when the other side no longer has enough votes to control who gets the second highest amount.


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105. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Missy: ***As far as another 'spoiler' saying Russell H. did not receive any votes, someone is telling lies.***

Actually, we have seen the Lone Shot of RussHELL, and my radar went off. I posted here that it could be a foreshadowing of Sole Survivor because I have seen this shot before (Bob Gabon), but I argued it could be telling or because RussHELL remains the focus...

I am rooting (put down those tomatoes) RussHELL as sole survivor. I have grown to love that little wart. And, anyone posting RussHELL doesn't get any votes, come on!

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167. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
First of all I vote yes to another thread on this topic!!

Little bit of new stuff - nothing major probably except the fact that Liz does not make the merge and Jaison does. So for those who are playing Survivor Fantasy games - keep that in mind - Jaison makes the merge - Liz does not.

I was told Jeff Probst was very - very - very scared at how Russell Swan goes down. I was told his eyes rolled back and he started jerking around like you would if you were having a seizure.

I was also told that John Fincher is a game player. He does lots of listening and thinking. He is not the type of player who is open with his strategy but he plays very smart.

I was also told Danger Dave is a good player.

As far as fitting things into the filming calendar I was told there are no double boots. I guess they could have Russell Swan going down and Liz being voted out in the same episode but that is just me speculating - I was not told that is what will happen. I guess it would be up to how they want to edit it.

I was also told the finale could begin with the final 5. Would this make things fit - I dont know. Maybe TDT could see if this would work. The way I was told this information was that it happened before when Earl won?? Not sure about that, maybe someone else is?

I was told the Tribal Council with both tribes and no boot was basically to check on how the players were doing after the scare with Russell Swan. The producers were concerned because with all the rain they were unable to even make fire and keep it going.
I was also told not only does the merge happen with the 8 Galu members and 4 Foa Foa (Jaison - Mick - Natalie - Russell) but the jury also starts there.

The first jury member will be the first voted out after the merge - Erik.

I know this probably wont answer all the questions people have but its all I have for right now.

I was told how the final 3 think the voting went down.

Players do talk to each other and they have a pretty good idea as to who won.

There is also some talk going around that CBS wants to renew for 2 more seasons but they want to make sure Jeff Probst is onboard.

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170. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hi missyae, thanks -- I'm going to start a sequel thread tomorrow and I will collate the info from all of your posts at the top.

So if you could hold off on posting any more new info in this thread until I have a chance to do that, I would appreciate it.


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171. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okie Dokie!


I did post some new stuff earlier today but I guess I somehow posted it about half the way up in this thread. I was going back and looking at some of the questions and I guess I replied to one with the new info and it did not go to the bottom of the thread but it ended up being way up there ^^^^

Oh and someone is gonna find some exposure in Star Magazine.


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179. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Eh, you mean this little tidbit...
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149. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
***I know you might be wondering now how can Erik go right after the merge while he has the immunity idol. Well he does. He is the first boot after the merge.***

You don't know how MUCH I am dying to see this! He's like the "other Eric"! The PMS brigade kicked him into the next continent as will this one

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92. "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes"
Interesting info... look forward to seeing how it all unfolds.

Remember, Virgil said it best.

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94. "RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes"
LAST EDITED ON 10-10-09 AT 05:13 PM (EST)

What did I miss? Who is Greek and who is giving "gifts"?

Edited for inexcusably bad spelling and grammar.

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95. "RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes"
LAST EDITED ON 10-10-09 AT 05:40 PM (EST)

It's been a decade since I last read Virgil (and only in translation), but I would think the gifts line refers to the Trojan Horse incident.

*goes off to find the Wiki link*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Horse
Yep, that's the one.
*I just love the classics.*


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97. "RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes"
Trojan horse was my first thought, too, but is there an analogy I missed? I don't recall any gift giving.
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98. "RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes"
Don't mind me, I'm just being a firebrand.
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99. "RE: Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes"
LOL
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100. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-10-09 AT 10:23 PM (EST)

Woo and Hoo! We've got a Spoiler in the house! Hiya missyae! Welcome to our Boards! You'll quickly see how lovely and hospitable these peeps are, at least most of the time! Seriously, we're mighty glad to have you and hope you'll stick around with us! Oh ... and if you have any special spoilers about THIS week's show, I'll be tackling The State of the Spoilers ("SOTS") this week and I'd just love some inside scoop!

Thanks so much for coming here. This board, I think, is one of the original and certainly the best, Survivor Board on the internet.

FWIW, the only smart move Natalie does is latch on to RussHell's coattails. We've seen these types over and over again on Survivor and it is clear that she won't win. As far as Mick goes, he is an M.D. Once they graduate from Med School they get the MD behind their name. He is just still in the midst of his training. Once he finishes the internship, then he will have to do his residency somewhere. He could very well win the Million. For some reason, I don't see how RussHell or Natalie can win.

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101. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hi Missyae, I was just reading over at Survivor Skills and noticed that you had posted there that Jaison won't make the merge. Just wanted to check in and see if that info was still correct? Or have you learned anything new since then?

If it's still correct, then it sounds like the boot order is: Ashley (Ep. 5), then Russhell S. (Ep. 6 med-vac, no boot), then Jaison (Ep. 7), then the merge and Erik book (Ep. 8) -- can you please confirm this? Thanks.

Here's the original Missyae post from Survivor Skills:
I should be getting new info today on both 19 and 20. From the info I have right now Jaison will not make the merge. So the next players to be leaving would be Ashley and Jaison from Foa Foa and Russell Swan due to going down in the challenge, which Foa Foa thought they had won.

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102. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Well, if it's still true then at least Liz makes the merge and I should be happy with that.


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103. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Well, looks like we could have a Foa Foa plus Shambo final five (I figured that Russell would vote out Jaison earlier on so basically there would be a second Galu in the F5).

It really should be exciting to see how Foa Foa is able to pull the numbers advantage (especially considering the fact that even after Erik leaves, they still are down 6-5 including Shambo). I expect that Brett, John, and Dave will likely follow behind Erik (because even though Laura might be the unofficial Galu leader, she isn't that strong, and besides, she won't be able to pull anything off with only Kelly and Monica left loyal to her)

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104. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
I sure have enjoyed this discussion & all the info provided by missyae! Being a "mutable" sign, I can go either way...I appreciate a spoiler free season & all the accompanying sleuthing & conjecture, but can also appreciate a totally spoiled season & being able to concentrate more on noticing all the editing trickery. There's always fun to be had on this Survivor board!

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106. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Hello good people!!

Hi Scarlett!! My sister in law collects Gone With The Wind stuff!!

I am mostly working now on things after the merge.

The way I have been told for the next couple of episodes is that Ashley leaves this week - Russell Swan goes down for Galu - then Jaison leaves for Foa Foa.

One of the things I was trying to nail down was which other Foa made the merge and I asked the question if Jaison left shortly after the merge and was quickly told - no thats not how it goes down. So I said, oh then Liz makes the merge and was told, yeah.

Something I can tell you about the promo of Russell telling Liz she was on thin ice is that when the people involved in that promo saw it - they could not even remember what it was about. So I guess it really is nothing major.

I also am trying to find out more about the hidden idols. Of course I have told you Erik did not play one when he was voted out. I am trying to find out if maybe someone else had it in their possesion. I was told the 4 Foa Foa players were shocked to see last week's episode in that they could not believe he didnt play it because it was obvious they were after him at Tribal Council.

Russell's hidden idol will be played. However, the way I was told is that it really did not need to be played but 'why have one and not use it?'

I think the egos of the jury will have a lot to do with how they vote. If they hold a grudge, I think it will be hard for Russell to win. If they appreciate strategic moves, he would have a good shot.

Keep in mind, I have been told his strategy about this is sorta like Mike Tyson - if I knock you out, I am champ because I beat you.

As far as how could Foa Foa pull this off, so far I am told that we just have not seen any strategy yet but when they merge we are really gonna see lots of it from Foa Foa.


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107. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks for sharing the new info, that's helpful to know where Liz and Jaison fit into the whole Foo Foo picture...

There's one thing that I'm having some trouble trying to wrap my head around, maybe I just didn't understand the paragraph correctly?

>I was told the 4 Foa Foa players were shocked
>to see last week's episode in that they
>could not believe he didnt play it because it
>was obvious they were after him at Tribal Council.

Did you mean last week's episode as in Episode 4 when Yasmin was voted out with Monica being the other person who received a vote? Erik certainly didn't appear to be in any danger of being voted out based on how the episode was edited and he's a member of Galu, not Foa Foa so not sure why the four Foa Foas you referenced to would care whether he would be out or not since they haven't shared a camp with him yet.

Or did you mean after the merge when there were four Foa Foas left in the game? There shouldn't have been any 'shocked to see last week's episode' as we haven't gotten that far on TV yet.

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108. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Pepe,
missyae can clarify, but from what I've read, missyae is saying that Foa Foa was shocked when the last episode revealed that Erik found an HII, because they didn't know he had it and they think he would have known enough to play it because he was clearly in danger (at the merge).

It is not obvious to me who missyae means by they (were after him at TC) - whether Erik should have realized that there were enough votes from Galu to put him at risk, or whether THEY means the Foa Foa members.

If this is a wrong interpretation, I'm sure missyae will clear it up, but I'm sure I read in one of her other posts that it was not discovered in game that Erik had found an HII --at least not by Foa Foa. (So if one or more Galu know, they don't share.)


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110. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Yes, you're correct OFG. Here's Missyae's earlier post on this topic, which I think will help explain things for Pepe:

When the 4 players of Foa Foa who make the merge saw Erik find the hidden immunity idol last night, they were shocked. All four had no idea he ever had an immunity idol because when he was voted out first after the merge there was no talk of it.

Those 4 Foa Foa members say they were shocked to see the Galu members vote out one of their own for the first boot after the merge. They all thought one of them would be the target, most likely Russell. Now a couple of them think the reason Erik did get voted out that night was to flush out the idol. They think others found out somehow Erik had it because they say it made no sense to them that night that one of them was not targeted. Now they think they know why. Something else that made this even more amazing was that none of the Foa Foa members had individual immunity that night and Erik still went home

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111. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Thanks so much for finding the proper quote, Squid!


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109. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
From early missyae spoilers that Brownroach brought over:

Laura is the one running things at Galu.

Yasmin has just said the same thing in an exit interview. Yasmin and missyae's source are on agreement there. Laura had been quite hidden at the time this was written, pre ep 4, so it would have been a real stretch as pure speculation, IMHO.


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112. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Nope it was not speculation. I will tell how I was told about Laura being in charge.

For once, instead of me asking lots of questions, a source asked me one. They asked me who I thought was running things at Galu. Of course at the time it was just a guess because we had not seen anything of them. Still haven't seen anything of Brett, but anyway, my guess was Erik.

The source laughed and said, "nope, Laura is running things with her girls and Erik is the first to leave after the merge."

So it was not speculation and I missed the question pretty badly!!


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113. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LAST EDITED ON 10-13-09 AT 03:21 AM (EST)

Good story!
I have been meditating on which Galu male might be willing to flip. Brett, Dave, or John. I would guess Dave because he's the cunning one with the big IQ, and he's not getting to the finals with the girls.

Brett, as you say, is a question mark, and Probst noted at the beginning is playing close to the vest, but his position seems excellent within Galu.

John is cocky, and seems like/is edited as a supremely self-centered player who will not have any serious loyalties. He seems to be well socialized after a rocky start, but who knows.

By my count, someone needs to pull a "Penner" to turn this game, similar to the Cooks where they merged 6-4. Erik gone and Shambo flipped still leaves Galu one up.

Unless they merge later as in the Cooks, where they had a 9 person jury and F3, but merged at F10 after a surprise double boot TC. ( I remember wondering if that clue in the bottle that said "now cast another vote right now" would have been the same if the Aitu 4 had lost that immunity. )

Anyhow, if they merge at 12 and take out Erik as a threat plus HII suspect - and Shambo crosses over, that's still 6-4 and that's still enough to take out Foa Foa. And you say the idol is not a game-changing play that shifted the power. So someone in Galu shakes things up. Generally it's the person at or near the bottom of the alliance who is looking at no better that F6 or F7 without an immunity run, and/or a social outcast like Shambo.


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114. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
My two thoughts to flip are Dave and Brett. Dave because we've gotten to know him and he seems to be trying to play the game. But I liked your comment in one of the threads that you could see John outlasting Erik and Dave in an ironic twist from the way the made fun of him in episode one. That makes me think of Brett. He got the first confessional of the entire season and we haven't heard from him until Jeff asked him the first question at tribal council last week. The fact that he has been ignored in a tribe of idiots is either very good or very bad, lol. but I can't forget his first confessional and the fact that it was about Shambo, someone we know will go deep into the game. He may join up with her at some point. I can't tell where he is on the pecking order at Galu.
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115. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Of course the other possibility is they just play stupid and vote out another of their original Galu members for some reason.

I bet I have asked that question at least 20 times about - "there has to be someone besides Shambo who flips." I keep getting told, "just wait for the strategy it is about to get really good."

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117. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Great thoughts in here considering another Galu flipping with Shambo...and as CTGirl notes, Brett's first confessional was indeed tied with Shambo. I am thinking these two are a pair....then check this vidcap out from this week...

Brett with his protective arm around Shambo....hmmmm?



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116. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
OFG--

What if RussHell is targeted by the remaining Galus; uses his HII; and the 4 FoaFoas + ShamFoa all vote for a secondary target Galu Player who I would guess would be one of John, Brett or Dave.

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119. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Scarlett,
that was my first assumption, that the idol is used, but then missyae said she heard the idol is played when it wasn't really that necessary, more of a "I've got an idol so I may as well use it" deal. So within the framework of missyae's spoilers, I am looking for something besides the idol to account for the reversal.

Re Brett - yes, he makes sense due to that first confessional. Apparently Yasmin and he were tight too. It was when I read that he's the one who's flirting with/lying around with Kelly that I thought, well, it looks like he's well aligned with 90210. I must have read that in a Yasmin interview, but not sure which one.

I remember from pre-game stuff or the bio (again, can't recall which), that Brett was willing to flirt and then play the game hard. So perhaps the Kelly flirting is nothing he can't dispense with if he decides to jump ship. We really have NO idea where Brett's head is at.


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118. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
LOL

It's the Sandra Diaz ploy: whoever asks, sure, as long as it's NOT ME!

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120. "Jaison/Liz"
I agree with Pepe that it's interesting to see these spoilers and see how it all unfolds.

There's something that keeps poking at me, Missy. I wonder if you can shed some light on this.

Your sources say that Ashley is next in Episode 5, then RusSwell gets medevac'ed in Episode 6, and then the tribes merge at 4 Fugga Fugga and 6 Galosers. The final three are Rasshole, Natalie, and MickDreamy.

So if you take the current Fuggas:

MickDreamy
Ashley
Liz
Jaison
Rasshole
Natalie

And Ashley leaves in ep 5, your left with 5 Fuggas at the merge, not four.

I've thought that Jaison's whining on and on is going to lead to something, and I thought perhaps he Ostens at some point prior to the merge, which would bring Fugga Fugga down to four. Bu then, I don't really like to tweak the numbers to fit the theory, you know?

Has your source said anything about Jaison's story and where/how it ends? Or Liz? We've seen the number "four" with respect to Fugga Fugga a lot in this thread, so it's bugging me how I keep seeing five, not four.

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10-13-09, 10:03 PM (EST)
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121. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
>>>Your sources say that Ashley is next in Episode 5, then RusSwell gets medevac'ed in Episode 6, and then the tribes merge at 4 Fugga Fugga and 6 Galosers. The final three are Rasshole, Natalie, and MickDreamy.

From my following of missyae's predictions it's
Ashley is the next Foa Foa
RusSwell is the medivac, and Ep 6 is known as the timing because of the EW article. No additional TC or boot in Ep 6.
Ep 7 is unknown, but it will be a Foa Foa boot, because all the Galu other than Yasmin and Russ make jury.

This would take us to 4 Foa Foa and 8 Galu (not 6). The jury is 9. There is a F3.
Erik is the merge boot. The Foa Foa who make jury are Liz, Mick, Russell, Natalie. The latter three are F3.

Shambo flips to Foa Foa.

That's what I've read from missyae. Granted I stopped reading Sucks when she came over here, and maybe I should check back.

FWIW, according to the CBS Fantasy game, the Ponderosa clips will start airing the week of 11/5, which is after Ep 8, which indicates to me that the jury does start at Ep 8, which agrees with missyae. Another spoiler at Sucks, SurvivorsUnite, says that the jury starts with 12 in the game, and the merge is no later than F10. Which doesn't rule out a merge at F12 ... and SU's spoilers are not proven either.

I have to say I am waffling between Jaison and Ashley as a pick this week.


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10-13-09, 10:38 PM (EST)
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122. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
>Has your source said anything about
>Jaison's story and where/how it
>ends? Or Liz?

missyae has already answered those questions right here in this thread:

Jaison gets booted the week after Russell S. gets evaced. Liz is one of the final Foa Foa 4.

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123. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
D'oh!

Thanks.

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10-14-09, 01:29 AM (EST)
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124. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
One thing I have not done is to try to fit spoilers within a mystery calendar someone might think were the exact filming dates. I think it's easier and better to get the spoilers and let the editing department worry about how they are going to fit everything in.

Like I said, the general feeling about the Tribal Council with both tribes and nobody leaving is it most likely won't even be shown. My question was "why would they not show something like that?" I was told the feeling was it was just to ask some questions, see how everyone was doing, and give info on Russell Swan's condition.

Keep in mind I was told the timing of events when Russell Swan went down played out with them not having to go to Tribal after that. Now it could very well be the 'No Vote Tribal' was after that and therefore it was fair.

If I am just looking at the chain of events to come and not looking at a filming calendar it would appear:

1. Ashley leaves
2. Russell Swan goes down
3. No Vote Tribal
4. Jaison leaves
5. Merge
6. Erik leaves without using hidden idol

Now making that fit into a mystery filming calendar is not my field, lol.

Shambo flips

Final 3:

Russell
Mick
Natalie

There sure does seem to be lots of people thinking or hoping Ashley does not leave this week though.



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125. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Sounds good.

Personally I could care less whether Ashley stays or goes. I and others who try to figure out how it goes without source information, by the edit and promos, are concerned that Ashley has dropped off the radar and Liz and Jaison are so prominently shown to be in trouble. It's what you might call a point of honor to make picks that we can justify in other ways than sourced info.

I think it is Ashley and Jaison who go pre-merge, but am a little concerned that Jaison might not hack this losing streak plus bad weather.

btw, you too can do spec based on what you see, without messing up your spoilers. All you have to do is say "this is just my spec" and differentiate.

Re the TC - after Mike Skupin was burned, there was a TC like what you describe. It happened, and was not shown. It was a long time ago, but I think they ended the episode with the shot of Mike being flown off in the helicopter. At some point they showed Ogakor being notified of an injury, by tree mail, and that IC was a no go.

With other medivacs - Bruce in PEI, Penner, James in FvF, Joe in Tocantins (I can't remember any others), they never showed a TC. I guess the Bruce evacuation was the scariest in terms of their not knowing what was going on at the time, and dramatic, being by night. I seem to remember Jeff telling the tribe there would be no TC.

This sounds more like a Skupin. They will probably show it if it feels dramatic. Whatever makes the best TV.


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10-14-09, 04:53 AM (EST)
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126. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
"KUUUUUUUUUCHAAAAA!!!"

DH yells that every time there's a medevac on Survivor.

The Skupin evac was very dramatic, with tears and dramatic music, and a very loopy Skupin yelling "KUUUUUCHAAAA!!!" as the heliocopter flew him off to never-never-land.

It was via his tribemates after the season was over, IIRC, where we learned that they had a TC and ceremonially voted Mike out. I think they didn't show it because the tribe was so traumatized by the whole gruesome scene and they probably had more of a psych session at tribal than the usual Q&A.

If RusSwell's evac happens during RC, I can only assume that it is as dramatic a health issue as the Skupin event, or else why wouldn't they just send the Galosers to TC to ceremoniously snuff his torch? I'm thinking the injury/illness was witnessed by everyone and the producers are making sure that everyone else is okay with what went down on a mental and psychological level.

Personally, I find it hard to imagine what could be worse than Mike Borassi's condition when he got the hook (Skupin aside, of course). The man was blue. I wonder if the dehydration led to a seizure. That can be very, very scary for onlookers.


Perpetual *headbutt* compliments of Rolly.

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127. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Wait, I'm confused. You posted over at Sucks that Russell was leaving before Ashley. Which one is it?

What's the link to this mystery calendar you are talking about? What does it have to do with whether your info is right or not?

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128. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
>Wait, I'm confused. You posted over
>at Sucks that Russell was
>leaving before Ashley. Which one
>is it?

I don't think it's necessary to start harassing missyae all over again over that particular confusion. She made it very clear that she was just reporting what her source had told her, even though she knew it was inconsistent with what she had been told before (and with the article about the Oct. 22 challenge). So she made a point of checking again with her source and the confusion got cleared up.

If you know about that discussion at Sucks, then you should also know that it got cleared up, and you're just here stirring trouble in the guise of asking questions.

>What's the link to this mystery
>calendar you are talking about?
>What does it have to
>do with whether your info
>is right or not?

Another answered question being asked as a form of hostility.

By mystery calendar, missyae has already explained what she means. Which is, that she's only been told the sequence of events, and that she can't make any predictions as to what, how and when CBS will choose to air, e.g. the TC's with no boot.

My fellow Sucks transplant, you are so transparent.

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10-14-09, 12:06 PM (EST)
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129. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Thank you Wildworld.

I thought this board was supposed to be entertaining. I don't like the hostility either, nor how serious some of the posters take themselves and their own opinions. Spoiling is fun, not science. I for one, am not adept at it, and enjoy reading "Missyae" posts (along with some others) b/c she just reports the "news". I hope she continues to contribute.

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130. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
HUH? How is asking a question considered harrassment? I don't see where at Sucks missyae cleared that up at all, but if you say she did just show me the post. I have no problem with that.

About the mystery calendar, I really have no idea what it is that she is talking about and that is why I asked. If anyone was being snide, it was missyae by mocking this calendar in the first place. But since you know what it is, maybe you can show me where the discussion of this calendar is, so I can educate myself.

TIA.

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131. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
"TIA." ???

Thanks in Advance?? or Transient Ischemic Attacks???

"...so I can educate myself".

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132. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Let me translate the board's message:

Treat Missy with the respect she deserves.

We consider her a Special Guest here.

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10-14-09, 01:59 PM (EST)
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133. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
After this week's episode any doubter who just has normal concerns on whether the info is right or not should have their doubts erased. Any doubter who is doubting because they like Ashley will be sad.

I just received one last mail about this week's episode and was told - everyone will see you are right - Ashley.

I hope Julie enjoys the show.

As far as the calendar - there are people - so called spoilers who try to make the info fit the so called filming calendar. All I was saying is, I get the info and don't worry about a filming calendar or how the info fits. If I have an order of events, thats good enough for me. I cannot worry about how they are going to edit something to fit into their episodes.

One last time


Ashley


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135. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
>After this week's episode any doubter
>who just has normal concerns
>on whether the info is
>right or not should have
>their doubts erased. Any doubter
>who is doubting because they
>like Ashley will be sad.
>
>
>I just received one last mail
>about this week's episode and
>was told - everyone will
>see you are right -
>Ashley.
>
>I hope Julie enjoys the show.
>
>
>As far as the calendar -
>there are people - so
>called spoilers who try to
>make the info fit the
>so called filming calendar. All
>I was saying is, I
>get the info and don't
>worry about a filming calendar
>or how the info fits.
>If I have an order
>of events, thats good enough
>for me. I cannot worry
>about how they are going
>to edit something to fit
>into their episodes.
>
>One last time
>
>
>Ashley
>
>
>

Ashley. Okay thanks.

So where are theses posts about the calendar from this so called spoiler person? What are they saying that makes you so upset at them?

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10-14-09, 02:52 PM (EST)
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136. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
LAST EDITED ON 10-14-09 AT 06:34 PM (EST)

I don't have any trouble understanding missy's soilers and the way they've been presented. She's made every attempt to make clear the extent and limitations of her information.

As far as Ashley - she's a longtime and hardcore fan of the show, i.e., she's one of us. The same was true for Betsy. No offense to the other castaways, but I think most of them are friends-of-friends of people who work for casting, not Survivor fans (to the extent that we are).

In my heart, I hope Ashley wins the mil, but my picks in the fantasy game won't be based on hope, they'll be based on vid caps, web clues, patterns, math , the Insider and missy's spoilers.


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10-14-09, 02:26 PM (EST)
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134. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Show me where I didn't treat missyae with respect. She posted two different stories at two different boards and I asked which one was right. It's a simple question but it's funny how it brought out a posse of posters defending her, all those posters with less than 100 posts here. If anyone is being harrassed or not treated with respect here it's me, but I don't roll that way. I just think it's funny you're taking it all so seriously that you feel you need to jump on a total stranger for asking a simple question.

I checked missaye posts at Sucks again and she did change back up to Ashley there too so that's that. The other poster was wrong about her clearing anything up about it but whatever. You all seem to be playing some sort of game of inuendos I don't.

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10-14-09, 06:27 PM (EST)
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138. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
well, katoba, I've been posting at Blows for 8 1/2 years, so I am not a newbie. The first thing I thought when I read your first post is that is so not the kind of tone we take with people here. This board is entirely different from Sucks, and proud of it. We do not issue challenges and demands here. We believe or don't believe, and ask politely.

Your post disrupted the courteous discussion with demands. If you don't see that, it is because you are new here. If you have concerns where something is at another board, that is not our concern or anyone's responsibility to find it for you. We will help you find information that's posted here.


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141. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
>well, katoba, I've been posting at
>Blows for 8 1/2 years,
>so I am not a
>newbie. The first thing I
>thought when I read your
>first post is that is
>so not the kind of
>tone we take with people
>here. This board is
>entirely different from Sucks, and
>proud of it. We
>do not issue challenges and
>demands here. We believe
>or don't believe, and ask
>politely.
>
>Your post disrupted the courteous discussion
>with demands. If you
>don't see that, it is
>because you are new here.
> If you have concerns
>where something is at another
>board, that is not our
>concern or anyone's responsibility to
>find it for you.
>We will help you find
>information that's posted here.
>
>
>


Outfrontgirl, maybe you feel protective of missyae because you're her board mentor-godmother since you're the one who had her come here, but I'm sorry to say there was no tone in my post. I asked a direct question for things that missyae posted differently at Sucks BUT ALSO HERE. She didn't correct the post in which she said that Russel went before Ashley. She didn't change the post and she didn't reply to say it was wrong. Maybe she posted somewhere else on this board, but I didn't see it, so why is it wrong to ask for the people who are saying that she explained to show me where so I can read it. I didn't call anyone a liar, I didn't call anyone names, I didn't demand anything. If you think I had tone well then I am sorry, but I didn't put it there. Don't go accusing me of things I didn't do and go all harsh on me and then say that is not the way to do things here.

It also looks a little double-standard because missyae is making snide comments about someone who she won't say who it is, but you all seem to be okay with that because she is posting her spoilers here. missyae is the one who was talking about someone's calendar and making digs about it so maybe you can give her the same advice about how things are done here. The only thing I asked was where the posts were so I could see what she was talking about. From the way you answered, they're at Sucks and I'm on my own looking them up. Well thanks then.

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142. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Well. There's that tone again. Sorry, katoba, but I'm with OFG here -- and I've been here about as long as OFG has. I think I can recognize a certain tone by now after years of surviving Shakes the Clown and other flamers.

Missyae was quite clear in one of her earlier posts on the new order of things - earlier, she was saying things were a little mixed up because of trying to go with a schedule ... then lately, she's been saying "forget the calendar - here's the order of things, not up to me to figure out exactly when it'll happen." Fair enough.

You came in with a challenge even though missyae has been clear on correcting the order of things. There's a lot of posts here and on the other thread, but it's there in more than one place.

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143. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
LAST EDITED ON 10-14-09 AT 08:45 PM (EST)

katoba,
I won't do a back and forth on the tone issue, because at this point it's for the mods to make a call. I would like to clarify something though.
You wrote:
>>>maybe you feel protective of missyae because you're her board mentor-godmother since you're the one who had her come here,

That is not true. I am not anyone's mentor or godmother. In context of discussing the rudeness that some Sucks posters display, I mentioned that Blows has civility guidelines. I also mentioned that Brownroach had a topic going where missyae's spoilers were already under discussion.

missyae decided on her own to check out Blows and is not under my sponsorship in any way. She mentioned that I had recommended the board as a good place. That is not the same thing as my endorsing the content of the spoilers. The spoilers and missyae will prove themselves or not, and I do not have a stake in the outcome.

What I feel protective of is the type of community we have at Blows, where we are polite in the way we address other posters.

ETA, thanks Pepe, and yes you have been around as long and with more consistency than I have over the years! Not that I agree with katoba's dismissal of any Blows poster based on low post count or seasons of posting. I don't. I only mentioned mine because katoba said "it's funny how it brought out a posse of posters defending her, all those posters with less than 100 posts here."


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144. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
First things first, HiYa Wezzie!!!! Good to see you

Next thing is Katoba:

1. The person who I commented about being so worried about the calendar knows who they are. If it is not you, don't stress yourself over it.

2. OFG is not the sole reason I came to Survivor Blows. There were lots of other nice posters from that 'other board' who suggested a couple of other boards and I have posted on both.

3. I can think of lots worse things to be accused of than having OFG as a mentor. Compared to what I was used to having hurled at me, that is a huge step up.

Last thing - Ashley

The real reason behind the scenes of what has her in peril is how big a fan she is of the game and a friend to some of it's previous players. Someone out there found out about her extensive knowledge of the game and thought it was better for her to go home. I highly doubt you will see that edited into the show because it might raise eyebrows to the viewers who have no idea at some of the connections of present players to past players. So her downfall is her own fault.


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145. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
So she's friends with Julie, eh?
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147. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Ah, we say it this way: "Loose lips sink ships." I must have conjured up a hundred ways for RussHELL to introduce himself at S20 (I came up with "I was hurt because of the production team, removed, and not allowed to play, I cried like a little girl <ha!> so they took pity on me and made an exception letting me participate in this cycle)

I sure hope RussHELL doesn't do his "usual" come on, bragging ad nauseum because I admire his self control.

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148. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
In the first All-Stars production informed all the other players that Rupert wasn't the winner of Pearl Islands, which was already airing but unconcluded when that game started filming. All-Stars II (S20) will be different in that the game filming started prior to when S19 commenced airing, the other players are completely unfamiliar with the way Russ H. plays the game. If not for that he would be in the Johnny Fairplay position of being the returning player no one in their right mind would trust for even a second.

Just thought I'd make that observation, welcome aboard missy and kato and such, keep it civil.

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172. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
remember dabo,
no one on Fans vs Faves had seen how James or Amanda fared in China. Little did they know that Amanda had been before the jury and still did not know for sure how she had placed. Same situation, really. Amanda's advantage was that she could play UTR as a threat because she's all pretty and sweet. And look where it got her, right back in front of the jury.

Which actually supports your argument that the unknown player has an unfair advantage, and I do agree. Just saying that production was unfair the same way last time it did a return players cast.


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174. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Of those that we've already seen go back to back, Rupert and Amanda, both of them went plenty far on the second time through......

It's very conceivable that RussHell will continue that trend, especially since nobody will have a clue who he is and what he did in the previous season, except for whatever he tells them, and it'll probably be mostly lies.........

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175. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
>>>it'll probably be mostly lies.........

Mostly?

Let's see ...
We had a real bad storm, and one of our pretty blonde girls got grabbed by a wave. Because I'm a fireman, it's second nature to rescue folks, so I jumped in after, and I saved her, but I got exhausted, and near to drowned, so they had to pull me from the game. This is my second chance to play because of that.

You know, I would do it over again, even though I don't stand no chance against you Survivor superstars, because that little blonde, she made me think of my German shepherd that I lost to the flood in Katrina. *wipes away tear*

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180. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Bravo OFG!
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181. "RE: Jaison/Liz"
Now that sounds very Russellesque!

Don't forget, though, he's going to have to explain to them why he's a "villain."

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146. "This is here and there is there"

There have been several references to previous discussions and disputes at another message board. Apparently a poster from that message board has chosen to join us here at this board and we are always happy to welcome new members.

References to the cultural differences between the various online spoiling communities and to specific issues that have occured elsewhere do not serve to further the primary purpose of this forum which is to discuss Survivor spoilers.

Lets all remember to keep the focus on the show and not fellow posters whether from the posters are from this board or elsewhere.

Spoil the show... not the mood!

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151. "Thank you"
Basically, I think this thread should be locked and what is pertinent should be started as a new thread. I'm tired of reading through the feldergarb. But that's just me, this site is Tagi not Pagong, we need order not chaos.

A note on source spoilers: typically they get their info second or third-hand, getting it wrong once in awhile or having to change things up sometimes is not unusual. I mean, face it, even back in the good ol' days Snewser made a bad prediction every so often, it happens.

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152. "RE: Thank you"
I somewhat agree. Aside from arguments, there's a lot of repetition of the same information, plus posts saying "I'd really like to see that happen!" and the ilk are kind of unnecessary.

Let's keep this one open until tomorrow at least; then maybe we'll start a sequel.

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164. "RE: Thank you"
>I mean, face it, even back in the good ol' days Snewser made
>a bad prediction every so often, it happens.

You know that DarkRivers took vacations just like the rest of us, right? Or got jammed at work and didn't have any time? Well, Snewser still had to post even during those weeks. As you said, it happens.

And I really just posted this as a call-out to the two of them, whom I found to be really nice people during the olden days of Survivor. I'm also glad to see that there are new people picking up their spoiling torch.

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10-15-09, 08:01 PM (EST)
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153. "a question"
I know that in an early post you said Erik is the first juror. Is he definitely on the jury? Do you know if there are 9 jurors for sure?

Is there any chance the merge happens after 1 or 2 people go to jury, as happened in the Cooks?

I know you are not working with the calendar, but counting the people and the episodes left, given the Finale date of 12/13 - then even if they don't do a recrap they have to do a double boot. Or a boot plus medivac in Ep 6. There is simply no way around the math, unless there are 6 players in the Finale, which has never happened.

In the Cooks they did a double boot on one tribe just pre-merge, as you may recall, and both boots became the first jurors. But they have never done a double boot post-merge that I can recall.

Even if they do a double boot in Ep 7, after only a medivac in Ep 6, that would only leave 11 to merge, and it wouldn't work to put one of the bootees on the jury and the other not.

If you can find out how they handle the double boot, that would be awesome.


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10-15-09, 10:48 PM (EST)
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154. "RE: a question"
I will see what I can find out.

I will doublecheck if the jury starts with Erik or he was just the first voted out after the merge and went home and was not part of the jury. The way I remember that info being told to me was - he was the first boot after the merge. I don't remember jury talk, if I said that it could be a mistake on my part. As of right now, I do not remember talk of him being jury or not being jury.

As far as a double boot, I dont remember that being discussed at all during any of this process. I know there was some confusion over the question of whether 2 Tribals will be shown because they did have one after Russell Swan goes down but nobody was voted out and both tribes attended. It could be that they had an immunity challenge after that and the next player voted out will leave the same week as Russell Swan does. Thats mere speculation on my part and something I will have to check on.

I will see what I can find out for everyone.


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10-16-09, 09:16 AM (EST)
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155. "RE: a question"
I think next week RusSwell goes and another real TC is held and presumably, Jaison goes
see my post herewith calendar and if Dec 13 is the last show then we will need another double boot ep.


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10-16-09, 12:10 PM (EST)
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156. "RE: a question"
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-09 AT 12:15 PM (EST)

missyae's original info (see my opening post in this thread) was that the merge occurs when there are 8 Galus and 4 Foa Foas left -- i.e. 12 people. So if Erik is the first merge boot (also as per the original info), he leaves in 12th place.

6 people are gone so far, which means that unless 2 people leave next week there can be no double-exit before the merge occurs. If missyae's original info is correct.

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157. "RE: a question"
Well from what OFG says, the first juror is at ponderosa after Ep 8 (ponderosa ?s start in CBS Fantasy game after ep 8) So Ep 6 and 7 must be single elim eps. I guess they could wait a week and ask the Ponderosa ?s the 2nd week of jurors but why wait?

Could they do another Cook Islands 2 boots at merge or 2 boots later on... say at 8 or so? that would be different

Missyae ask if Erik left at the same time as someone else...could he possibly be the 2nd boot in the merge ep. and that's why he doesn't feel he needs to play HII? NOt expecting it. But, no, I recall seeing that FoaF was surprised Erik didn't play it at merge TC bc it was clear that he was a target

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10-16-09, 12:54 PM (EST)
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158. "RE: a question"
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-09 AT 12:55 PM (EST)

>But, no, I
>recall seeing that FoaF was
>surprised Erik didn't play it
>at merge TC bc it
>was clear that he was
>a target

I believe what missyae said was that the Foa Foa 4 were surprised because they didn't know Erik had an idol. Nothing about Erik being a clear target. Given that his tribe was in a clear majority at the time, he wouldn't be all that different from Brendan who left with an unplayed idol at the same juncture.

A target to everyone though not in their own mind.


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159. "RE: a question"
Thanks ww I reread the post about Erik...and I misread it the first time...so Erik could be first of 2 boots in Ep 8 without playing HII (could he secretly pass it )

I'm hoping for a late double boot like when 8-6 are left that would be new.


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10-16-09, 01:42 PM (EST)
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160. "RE: a question"
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-09 AT 01:43 PM (EST)

If missyae is correct that both tribes attended a non-voting TC in the aftermath of the evac, I wonder if the original plan may have been to have a double boot this week.

It seems weird that they wouldn't have a talk-things-out TC just for the Galu members after the evac, like with Skupin. But if they had already arranged to transport both tribes to the TC set later, maybe they decided it would be therapeutic for the Foa Foas to be there as well.


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10-16-09, 02:03 PM (EST)
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161. "RE: a question"
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-09 AT 02:05 PM (EST)

With Skupin, though, his accident and the traumatic aftermath weren't witnessed by Ogakor, so the "psychiatrist's couch" TC wasn't warranted for the other tribe in that case. It makes sense that they'd do it for both tribes this time, since everyone witnessed the scene, whatever it was.

That said, I like what you are suggesting here. It will be interesting to find out in the end if that's what happened -- that MB had to change the whole game midway through! You are right that with the logistics in place already, they may figure why not, let's do a psych session with both tribes.

Has Missyae said whether the episode 6 TC was one TC with both tribes, or two TC's with each tribe going separately?

It will be interesting to see as well if they edit in the TC. They left it private for the Kucha tribe members -- we never got to see it. Funny, eh? That was eight years ago and in the early days of reality TV. They probably didn't want to exploit his injuries and the tribe's emotions. If that happened now, I think they would show it. I think they will show it this week. But if they do, is it because they had already set up production for a double TC as BR suggests? Or is it to milk a near-tragedy for ratings? We probably won't know until the finale.

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10-16-09, 02:13 PM (EST)
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162. "RE: a question"
I wonder if they also do a double TC to deal with the lack of fire/lack of flint issue. I know they don't like to give anything to the survivors when they've (the survivors) have screwed up but in this case, everyone's life is potentially at risk. Remember in Australia, Jeff traded rice for a part of their shelter (can't remember exactly, a tarp? Colby's flag?). Foa Foa doesn't have much to trade. They might both get new flint with a strict warning from Jeff to use it correctly.

I agree Frisky, they'd show that tribal council now, and I bet we will see something from it this time.

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10-16-09, 04:57 PM (EST)
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163. "RE: a question"
As a viewer, I would find it disconcerting if my impression was that the show's producers did not take steps to address the very real concerns that the remaining Survivors must have had in the wake of such an incident. Or if I was left to imagine what those steps might have been.

The intervention of the medical team, helicopter transport, the availability of hospital care, etc. have already worked to shatter the illusion of Survivor's isolation and remind the audience that civilization was never more than a moment away. And the new reality - the immediate context of the Game and the audience's emotional investment in it - has already become the emergency, the Survivors' reactions to it and the response of the show's host, crew and producers to both.

And, although I think that even the most casual viewer is aware that s/he is watching a creatively edited entertainment product, I also think that it would be a mistake for SEG to involve the audience in that reality and then - too abruptly - close the curtain on its aftermath.

Perhaps I'm the odd person out, but I wouldn't consider being shown the ensuing (and hopefully reassuring) Tribal Council an attempt to 'milk a near-tragedy for ratings'. I would think of it (naively or not) as a thoughtful response to my reaction to one.

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10-16-09, 06:44 PM (EST)
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168. "RE: a question"
Doesn't the EW article on the challenge say that it was the RC, not IC?

In prior medical evacuations, they have shown the pertinent scenes, the treatment, removal, the response from players if it was a big deal. I don't think getting snippets of sessions with the shrinks is particularly necessary.

If there were ever a death, which I hope to god never happens, then there would be serious questions about how to proceed, if they should proceed, and some sort of in memoriam would be appropriate.

missyae said they would all go to one TC. There is the matter of the unfinished challenge - Foa Foa is starving, and it might have been for food. And yes, they were all there, so they should all share in the counseling.

I think they will show whatever makes for compelling TV. If the TC is completely boring, then they won't waste time on it. If they can manage to edit all that time into something that will touch people's hearts, then they'll likely include it.


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10-16-09, 05:37 PM (EST)
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165. "Time for the "Part 2" thread"
OFG or BR, would one of you like to start a new thread that begins with a summary of all the information that we have on this thread? I agree, all of the digressions make this thread a little hard to wade through.

When the "Part 2" thread is posted, I'll lock this one.

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10-16-09, 06:25 PM (EST)
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166. "RE: Time for the "Part 2" thread"
I'll get it together to start a new one tomorrow. Thanks AyaK.

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10-16-09, 06:47 PM (EST)
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169. "RE: Time for the "Part 2" thread"
Thank you AyaK, and thanks so much Brownroach for volunteering. I doubt I could get it together quickly and wouldn't want people waiting on me. Here's hoping the next topic can focus on the spoiling substance.


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10-16-09, 10:58 PM (EST)
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173. "New boot order?"
Hi Missyae,

I noticed you posted some new info on Sucks today -- so it appears that now Jaison DOES make the merge and Liz does NOT. That's a change and/or new info, right? So now the 4 FaoFao who make the merge are Jaison, Mick, Natalie and Russell.

Also, I believe you said there are NO double boots. Just wanted to confirm this new info is correct since I don't think you mentioned it here. Please let us know, thanks!

______________________________________

Here's the Missyae post from Sucks:
Little bit of new stuff - nothing major probably except the fact that Liz does not make the merge and Jaison does. So for those who are playing Survivor Fantasy games - keep that in mind - Jaison makes the merge - Liz does not. I was told Jeff Probst was very - very - very scared at how Russell Swan goes down. I was told his eyes rolled back and he started jerking around like you would if you were having a seizure. I was also told that John Fincher is a game player. He does lots of listening and thinking. He is not the type of player who is open with his strategy but he plays very smart. I was also told Danger Dave is a good player. As far as fitting things into the filming calendar I was told there are no double boots. I guess they could have Russell Swan going down and Liz being voted out in the same episode but that is just me speculating - I was not told that is what will happen. I guess it would be up to how they want to edit it. I was also told the finale could begin with the final 5. Would this make things fit - I dont know. Maybe TDT could see if this would work. I was told the tribal council with both tribes and no boot was basically to check on how the players were doing after the scare with Russell Swan. The producers were concerned because with all the rain they were unable to even make fire and keep it going. I was also told not only does the merge happen with the 8 Galu members and 4 Foa Foa (Jaison - Mick - Natalie - Russell) but the jury also starts there. The first jury member will be the first voted out after the merge - Erik. I know this probably wont answer all the questions people have but its all I have for right now. I was told how the final 3 think the voting went down. Players do talk to each other and they have a pretty good idea as to who won. There is also some talk going around that CBS wants to renew for 2 more seasons but they want to make sure Jeff Probst is onboard.

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176. "RE: New boot order?"
Thanks Squid!

Whether the Foa Foa who didn't make F3 was Liz or Jaison was up in the air over at Sucks (in missyae's topic) for quite awhile. Then there was word that Liz is the 4th. Nothing specific about Jaison, other than if Liz makes it, by default Jaison does not. So now it's the other way.

I think we saw Liz's story arc begin in earnest last night. We learned she is not in the core alliance with the guys; she is not in Nat's core alliance with Russell; she is good in challenges but she tried to play too directly, like Betsy and Marisa, and she's toast if Foa Foa loses again.

I wouldn't vote for her last week because she had no story arc, but things have changed. Her interview is well fulfilled now. Terrible weather and difficult people.


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10-17-09, 00:46 AM (EST)
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177. "RE: New boot order?"
Hi OFG, read posts #101 and 106 above in this thread for the confusion. I was just wondering if there was a backstory or behind the scenes insights based on Missyae's new post/info.

Also, as it turns out, Missyae did post the new info from today in this thread too...it's inserted in the middle above vs. down here at the bottom, so that's why I missed it. I think everyone agrees that it will be very helpful once we start a new thread vs. having to sift through everything.

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10-17-09, 01:16 AM (EST)
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178. "RE: New boot order?"
Hey gang!! I didn't forget you, I did post it here too but somehow I posted it way up in the thread. I am blonde, what can I say?

I didn't post the new stuff I found out tonight about the challenge when Russell goes down. I was told it was one of those combined Immunity and Reward challenges. I was also told some of the players did not see him hit his head because they had on blindfolds. They did see how fast the medical staff got there and how serious they treated the situation. They also said Jeff was very shaken up and scared. Now whats this mean as far as challenges and a boot this week? I am not sure because its up to the editing but my guess is Russell Swan leaves and we see the tribal council with both tribes and nobody leaves. Then next week we see Liz leave.

It was strongly hinted to me the finale will start out with 5 players and get down to our final 3 of Mick, Russell, and Natalie.

Again, I don't try to fit the info into the filming calendar, I leave that to OFG and TDT because they know more about that than me. If there is something I could be asking that might help, let me know. I warn you though, some of this could just turn out to be how it is edited. They could very easily show the next immunity challenge where Foa loses and Liz leaves this week if they want to.

I was told the producers think this episode will be the best of the season so far and the term 'tear jerker' was used.

I didn't post all of this over here tonight because someone posted to wait until the new thread to post any more info so I was waiting.

Anyone read the Star Magazine? Grab the one on sale now and see what Survivor star has a 2 page spread.

Does anyone go to the Jokers board? Did you know Laura posted there last night before the episode aired and said she was going to watch Galu kick some #####? Complete with a cell phone pic of her. Thats brave.

I never know what time of day or night I might get info so I try to get it out there as soon as I can. I wanted to get the Liz info out there because lots of people play those Survivor Fantasy games and I didnt want anyone to pick Jaison as their next boot. I heard Liz is not gonna be a happy camper when she leaves.

There is info on a couple of Galu players on my other posting that I somehow managed to post way up there ^^

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