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"Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
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"Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Please keep all discussion of The Smirking Thing That Should Not Be, That Which Must Not Win, She Who Cannot Make A Decision Involving Inhale Vs. Exhale, and The Blur on this thread until three hours after the near-final sign of the reality apocalypse comes to pass with the announcement of the return of The Thing They Swore They Would Never Do Again. (They Lied.)And no sigpics. James might mistake them for immunity idols and try to play them. Who will win? Who will get the Rupert Boneham Memorial 'You Can't Play Either' 1/10th check? Who will attempt to strange Courtney at the reunion and fail to kill her when they realize they can't get their hands to close tightly enough for a circle around her neck? How long will it take Denise to realize she's constructed the world's first perpetual motion self-screw machine? Will Todd mock people while trying to get their votes? Will any votes cast for Amanda be covered by computer distortion lest someone in North Dakota be offended by a six-letter name? And how many drugs did they inject Jeff with before he decided that Survivor 16: Half-A.S.S.ed was a good idea?
Y'know the worst part? In about eight weeks, we're going to be wishing we had this group back... The rough Dalton shuffles towards Palau, its hour come around at last..
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12-16-07, 04:58 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Todd fails to tone himself down enough to make any attempt at sweet talk with the jury. (Or: does Amanda win the game, or does Todd lose it?) Courtney's demonstrated idea of sweet talk is 'I hate you all', so the hobgoblin of her consistent little mind should be running off with the torches by the end of the third question. 
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12-16-07, 09:01 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Typical" |
>We're gonna start on time, people!
*crosses fingers and toes*
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12-16-07, 08:12 PM (EST)
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5. "Recrap." |
'Thirty-six days ago, I met Courtney. It's more than five weeks later and I still haven't found the dosage which will let me forget that.'
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12-16-07, 08:22 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Recrap." |
*sigh* In the near-mandatory dark joke that about twenty people will get, I keep wondering if there's any way we're being set up for the Connie win. Angry, near-universal hatred towards everyone, just about totally useless in challenges and totally unaware of what her own edit might produce... oh, there are lines to draw here...
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12-16-07, 08:25 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Recrap." |
Then who's Denise? Gary the IRS dude?
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12-16-07, 08:18 PM (EST)
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7. "The final four:" |
Todd, the jerk.
Amanda, the tag-along.
Courtney, the Final Two dream partner.
Denise, the -- the -- don't ask her to decide what she is! That might offend someone!
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12-16-07, 08:31 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Reward challenge." |
fit blocks into a wall? Which show is this again?
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12-16-07, 08:58 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Reward challenge." |
the sh!t will really hit the fan if they eat that!
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17. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-16-07 AT 08:37 PM (EST)Todd & Amanda surge ahead, Denise & Courtney fall out of it -- so says Jeff. My, the foreshadowing is getting thick tonight. Denise can't even manage to get her bridge together. Well, it's not as if she ever really wanted to go anywhere... Oh, lovely: now Jeff's providing color hints for the puzzle. Does he think he's got a Becky vs. Sundra situation on his hands? And now he's advising them to take his time, so guess not... Denise is on the move, and Jeff tells her she's still in it. Oh, Jeff, you liar. Jeff keeps harping on how hard the puzzle is. Isn't that special. Jeff may actually be running out of commentary. Amanda with a false finish, Todd getting close -- Amanda wins Reward. Serving for one: no bring-alongs here. Amanda gets to eat. And drink. And get a horrible hangover -- ah, here Jeff goes. Amanda can eat by herself, or she can split the food two -- or three -- ways. Decision time. What's going through Amanda's head? Worried about uneven ground, Denise has taken her on Rewards... Jeff trying to ramp up the paranoia, talking about how this affects the game. Amanda appears to cave in and takes Todd with her. (Maybe she's going to funnel all the beer to him.) Courtney doesn't get to eat, but it's not as if she'll ever notice. And if Denise hasn't figured out she's on the outs by now, no one will be very surprised. Commercials. For pizza. And the challenge had no sponsor. Can you say 'missed opportunity'? No one on staff could.
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12-16-07, 08:37 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
smart Amanda, not leaving BAD TODD out of her sight
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12-16-07, 08:45 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Todd thanks Amanda. A lot. Amanda drops into confessional and says she wanted to take Todd because she doesn't trust him and this lets her see where he's at. Oh, and she can get him drunk. And now -- Amanda tells Todd she doesn't trust him! Todd is surprised by this. Why? Amanda openly thinks Todd would backstab her. This is how Amanda clears the air. Todd's feelings are hurt. After all, just because he's backstabbed everyone else doesn't mean he was going to get around to her right away! Todd wants to get rid of Denise. Todd feels he needs Amanda. Todd was labeled as 'the schemer' in the commercials and apparently it was for lack of actual accurate terms, such as 'he smirks. It passed for scheming.' Back at camp, Denise turns into Rupert. She was picked last for games. She was never picked at all. Someone's going to be left out. Waaah? No, not yet, but give her some time... (Well, this is what she gets for going with the all-girls alliance.) Todd's worried about whether the other girls will turn on him. After all, they have the numbers. And they might be jealous of what he's been doing with his hair. Todd talks to the group. Points out that he has to vote for someone. Suddenly, Todd seems to have realized that the jury exists and he needs to make someone on it like him. Too little, too late... The title quote comes out from Courtney's mouth: Todd's only looking out for himself. Well, duh. Himself and whoever he wants to carry along. Misdirection time! Do we get rid of Todd? Is anyone finally going to make the move and dump him? Of course not! So let's just ignore any and all of this, because Todd isn't going anywhere just yet. Todd may be paranoid, but that would be because he's forgotten that he's worth dragging along too... Todd thinks he, Amanda, and Courtney would be the most fantastic F3 in the entire world. Commence vomiting.
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12-16-07, 08:57 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Note: I'm partially segcapping this thing on pure audio, so I'm going to miss the occasional visual. Which may be a good thing if the Immunity challenge involves Blurfest '07. I may be the only one who lives through it.Day Thirty-Eight. Tree mail. Todd reads it off: get in the boat, paddle across the lake to the statue of the Chinese goddess of mercy & compassion. (What's she doing in this game?) Find the torches. Light the firecrackers to chase off the noisome spirits. Todd says that every single person who's been voted off has helped him to get here. (Well, that's one way to look at it...) Sixteen of them, one gets to win. Twelve of them get to do voiceovers. Chicken was going to be himself: an idiot. Ashley just had no idea how to work without a script. Leslie was changed spiritually. Now she's really scared of welcoming ceremonies! Dave wants to know if everyone is honoring his god-monument of fire! (And he was going to be likable. That didn't exactly work out...) Aaron feels the hardest part of the game was having anyone remember he was in it. Sherea would say something here, but that would involve moving and she's saving her strength for the challenges. Jaime wants to be in Half-A.S.S.ed! (Why not? She's as bad as the ones they actually cast.) Jean-Robert gives the best voiceover ever! Just like his gameplay! In fact, it's so good, I'm not worthy of describing it. You'll just have to imagine what he said. But really, it was supreme. Frosti is proud of being the youngest player ever. And he's also proud of admitting his necrophilia on national television. Thanks, Courtney! James takes this opportunity to play an immunity idol. Erik has lost his reality show virginity. He thought it would feel better than it did. And he's not a risk-taker in life. Oh, really? Peih-Gee wants to know why the challenges weren't being rigged just a little more blatantly for her. She's Chinese in China: didn't that make her special! And Jeff wants them to get this over with already. Commercials. So Jeff's not even getting his wish this season. Well, it'll be a good warm-up for February...
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12-16-07, 09:01 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
These Estee recapps are better than the actual show. 
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28. "Immunity challenge." |
Gosh, the Giants/Redskins game must be really interesting. Or everyone's over on VH1, catching the deathless (and deadly) double conclusion feature for I Love New York 2 and America's Most Smartest Model. If so, drop by and let me know how those turned out: I might miss all forty-nine reruns in the next three days.Commercials. American Express will be happy to help you through all your troubles, as long as you're a celebrity. Without that, you're screwed. And we're back. Final Immunity. Amanda hands over the bling. Jeff confirms the F3. The challenge is about ignoring distractions. Balance dishes on the end of a long balance arm. When the dishes fall off, you're out. The stations have been adjusted for height. The contestants start loading up: dish first, then a bowl. Jeff gives them a chance to get used to the arm and the way it moves. More items: small plate, rice bowl. And we wait. No distractions so far... ...okay, Jeff's speaking. It's a hot day with no breeze. But if you can't ignore Jeff by now, why are you here? Another small bowl goes on the stack. Todd has a brief moment of trouble -- still shaking a little. Y'know, someone should really try a little trash-talk here. Another small bowl. Oh. The. Drama.
(Hi, Doc!) Jeff now thinks they're all doing very well. They have nothing to do but dig deep. Todd digs deep within himself and finds out he's an incredibly shallow person: nothing there to find, and the dishes come down. Todd's out. Another rice bowl. Amanda trying to use some strategy in placement. Courtney wobbling: the weight, the effort, the fact that she's been standing for more than two minutes without a break... Courtney now in pain from carrying five times her body weight. The dishes are in more pain than she is: cascade, and Courtney's out. We're down to Amanda vs. Denise. Denise wants to deal. You don't write my name, I don't write your name. Amanda doesn't want to bargain. She wants to battle this out. She's afraid of Denise in the F3. Add a rice bowl. Denise finally wants to make a move in the game and it's too late. Typical. So Denise makes another move: she loses control and drops her dishes. Amanda wins Immunity. Jeff gives them the speech about the final member of the jury going out tonight, then tells them this is the time to pull out all the stops and make deals. Denise may take this advice to heart. But since it's a few episodes too late, she's still doomed.
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12-16-07, 09:13 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Immunity challenge." |
Denise doesn't know what to do.
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12-16-07, 09:14 PM (EST)
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31. "Is this the first time" |
they've ever given someone a second buff? I notice Amanda now has a matching skirt/top outfit. Did the blur artists join the writers and go on strike?
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12-16-07, 09:30 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Is this the first time" |
I'm actually not busy for once. I was thinking that survivor started an hour earlier, so I had all my evening chores, etc done so that i would be ready by 7:00. I also knew you guys all really wanted to hear from me cough....cough....cough...
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12-16-07, 09:20 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Is this the first time" |
I was wondering if the site they were at had enough significance they had to be garbed with enough clothes to prevent the need for blurring.
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12-16-07, 09:23 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Is this the first time" |
Good point. It was a religious site, so that would make sense.
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12-16-07, 09:26 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Is this the first time" |
I hadn't thought of that either. It makes sense.
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12-16-07, 09:28 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Can anyone make a deal here? Could Denise get Amanda & Courtney to turn on Todd? No, of course she can't. Denise couldn't breathe if she thought it might infringe on someone's territory. We could just skip this whole segment. But that's not going to happen, so let's just hope they rush through it. Like that's going to happen. Oooh, panic & danger music! Pay attention, Denise. Amanda is worried that she'll be blamed for tonight's ouster. Amanda is thinking about the jury. Denise is feeling a little worried right now. Denise also thinks she might be able to swing Amanda. Denise is thinking about nothing real. Amanda tries to tell Denise she hasn't decided who she's voting for. (Lie.) Denise replies that making this effort is all she's got right now. (Truth. Of course, she's discounting all the opportunities she had earlier. Has anyone done less with more chances than Denise?) Amanda feels Denise has played a great game. This is in confessional. Amanda may feel Denise will cast her vote after seeing the actual episode. Do you take someone who deserves it, or do you take someone you can beat? The game isn't a meritocracy. Y'know what the mainstay reality meritocracy was? Fear Factor. And they got canceled. Todd hoping he has Day 39. Yes, he does. He paid for it in smirks. And yet he's still paranoid. So much fun in Todd-world, where every ride is an internal rollercoaster...
Courtney feels -- I think I've got this right -- that Denise doesn't deserve F3 just because Denise sucks at life. As opposed to Courtney, who deserves F3 because she just plain sucks. Do you hate Courtney yet? Aw, why not? Amanda tries to guarantee she won't vote for Denise, but she can't promise what the others will vote. Interesting... Amanda can scattershot her ballot here, still go to F3 with the necklace, and rely on Todd & Courtney to vote Denise out. That makes her look very good for Denise's jury vote, doesn't it. Who's Amanda's biggest threat? Todd. Because he's made a lot of personal connections with people on the jury. That's right, Amanda. He's made them all hate his guts. Tribal Council. Jeff asks Amanda if she's giving up the necklace. Is he kidding? Jeff points out this is an original alliance: solid since Day One. Given that, who does Todd want to backstab next? Well, Amanda isn't eligible... Denise has figured out there's a totem pole. She also knows she's at the bottom of it. Courtney thinks everyone is on the outside of something. For example, Courtney is on the outside of humanity, intelligence, compassion, and empathy. Todd isn't sure if he's safe or not. He's seen a lot of people here be sure they were safe and then go out. He got rid of most of them. Courtney's safe. She's useless! And offensive! And offensively useless! Denise decides she's a jury threat because she has kids and might have sympathy. ('Yes! Vote me out twice!') Oh, and Amanda's a swing vote because she can force a tie. And why is this important? Because Denise, the total idiot, just admitted what Amanda said to her earlier. Which just about means Amanda can't do anything here, because it only worked if it remained secret. Whee! (And now Denise thinks ties are valuable...) Todd is trying to play to the jury. A little too late, Todd. Too early and too late. Did you remember to smirk when you did it? Votes. Tallying of the votes. Anyone got an idol? Yeah, right. Denise.
Todd.
Denise.
Take a wild guess. Well, Amanda's now on the board with one backstab and Denise is the one who planted the knife into herself. That's sort of original... Jeff gives the jury power shift speech. I made him do it better. And Denise wonders if there's something she could have done differently. How about 'play'? Back to camp they go. Commercials.
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12-16-07, 09:38 PM (EST)
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40. "Back at camp" |
The return of Amanda's Butt Blur!
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12-16-07, 09:38 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I'm actually liking Amanda more and more tonight. If any one of them have to win I'm actually hoping it will be her.
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12-16-07, 09:42 PM (EST)
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42. "Amanda " |
Was she mad at Todd for trying to win a million dollars with his editorializing or is she mad because her lie to Denise may have backfired?
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12-16-07, 09:48 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Amanda " |
Neither. She's mad at herself for aligning with someone that she can't even trust. I think she finally decided she'd have a better chance going against Todd (if nothing else, she can say she was true to her original alliance) than against Denise, but she sees Denise as more worthy of being there than Todd.
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12-16-07, 09:45 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Amanda: I'm blessed
Todd: Thank you all for letting me run you over.
Courtney: I'm useless, that sets me apart from the others.
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12-16-07, 09:45 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Raise your hand if you want Courtney to die now. Okay, now raise your hand if you think you can beat Denise to it once the lights come up on the Reunion...Dunkin Donuts commercial: 'I bet you know lots of people who help you all year. Want to give something back?' Courtney's head Dracos and Denise doesn't have to do anything. But that's in the present. This is the past, and now they're heading back. Amanda is angry at Todd because he started trying to make Amanda look back in front of the jury (with the Denise angle) before the final Council even began. Amanda is trying to explain the part where she had Denise's back (other than as a knife landing zone), which seems to work out to 'I have your back yesterday and I have your back tomorrow, but I never have your back today). Amanda then basically informs Todd that she intends to play for a win tomorrow and if he thinks she's going to just hand him the million in front of the jury in her last alliance partner move, he can go to hell. Not in those words, mind you, but that's the intent. Todd is very confused. Why would anyone think he was playing the jury on purpose? He can't control his face or what comes out of his mouth! Day 39. Courtney remains useless. There's a breakfast waiting for the F3. It has to be cooked. Amazingly, they are now capable of figuring out that they have to do the cooking. Courtney is proud of herself. She's the only one. Nationwide. She feels she has a 'winsome personality' and wants credit for making it this far. No, Courtney: you have a 'loseall personality' and you're about to get clobbered. Enjoy it. Todd says he has felt more emotions and thought more about his life than ever before. He has grown up. That's right: he is now seven. Did Todd backstab and lie to the jury? Yes. But it's just the game. He thinks he has a shot. He accomplished so much, right? The smirks alone set records. Amanda gives herself a one-third chance at the million and feels she has to tell the truth about her game. She's nervous and emotional, but she's not afraid of failure. Unlike Courtney, who got downright phobic around Denise... Tribal Council. This is going to be a long one. Dramatic music... dramatic, tense, unhappy music... Jeff reprises the power shift speech. (I still made him do it better.) Opening statements for all three. The jury then gets to address them. And then the vote. No closing statement? (Actually, no questions? 'Address?' Amanda: I reflected a lot today, I followed my strategy by aligning right away, I was trying to get people I could compete against, sorry about the votes. Todd: He's stoked to be here, thanks for helping me get here by falling for everything, I know I backstabbed people, but I wasn't personal: please divorce the game from the way I really feel about you. (Dreamer.) Being here is his dream come true: he couldn't be the strongest, so he had to be the most strategic, thanks again, bye! Courtney: I had no strategy and no idea what I was doing. I don't know why I wasn't voted out. (I'm not even remotely joking here.) She mentions her starting weight. She mentions her Immunity win, her alliances, and how proud she is of himself. Give her credit for being so incredibly useless that everyone had to carry her. Isn't that special enough to earn a million dollars? Jury, think about what you want to say -- commercials.
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47. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Jean Robert attempts to vote none of the above.
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12-16-07, 09:54 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
God help me I think Courtney might win this thing unless Todd gets points for running this game, as he has from the very beginning.
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12-16-07, 09:55 PM (EST)
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49. "OK, who is the person who fed the jury" |
Paula Abdul's giggle juice
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12-16-07, 10:00 PM (EST)
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50. "Frosty" |
How can you mend a broken heart? How can you stop the rain from falling down? .....
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51. "The jury speaks..." |
LAST EDITED ON 12-16-07 AT 10:07 PM (EST)...the jury cracks corn, and I don't care... {If we did this for a while, would it help?} {No.} {Crap.} At this point, unless Amanda and Todd both manage to execute the most complete self-destruct ever seen in reality or fanfic, the Courtney win is off the board: I can't even see anyone throwing her a mercy vote. But this is not the world's most intelligent jury... and the questions/addresses have yet to come. Playskool wants you to know they don't use lead-based paints. Radium's much cheaper. And we're back. Jeff gives the jury their instructions. You can address one to three at your discretion. James: Congratulations. I'm not bitter. What's the best time you've had here? And can I play an idol? Amanda: Right after the first challenge, when they won and she wouldn't be the first one out! Jeff: why that question? James: just making it easy. Some version of Phillip lives. Jean-Robert: the bitter speech. No one here deserves the million because they all backstabbed him, but he has to vote someone... his vote is live. Why do they deserve his vote? Courtney: I outwitted, outplayed, and outlasted. (The first two? Really?) And I won Immunity: you didn't. JR admits his jerk strategy, then asks Amanda why she didn't backstab him. Amanda says she was just outnumbered: other people wanted to vote for him first. She didn't want to, but she did. JR to Todd: why get rid of me instead of James when he was the biggest threat? Todd: you put ideas in people's heads, and that's my job! I want to be the puppetmaster! You were my biggest threat. This shuts JR up. James cracks up laughing. Peih-Gee: I want to vote for the person who deserves it. Todd, explain why you're not just easy to beat. Todd: I'm slimy and sneaky. I got an alliance together. I fought. I worked for this. Me, me, me. And did I mention the backstabs? Peih-Gee to Amanda: stop apologizing, stop making Todd take the fall as the bad guy. Explain what you actually did in this game. Amanda admits that she touched off the removal of James, especially since she's sure he won't be bitter about it. Nothing for Courtney. Erik's up. What was the riskiest move you made when you knew you were on the line? Amanda: Brings up James again, because it's still safe. Erik feels this is a no-brainer. Amanda points out that an idol play would have removed her alliance partner. (Nope: tiebreaker.) And nothing for Todd and Courtney. Frosti: Todd, I love you, but I don't know if I have any idea who you are. Why do I vote for you? Todd says he's really a friend, really-really, and it's just the game. For Courtney: you look great, and I really love the undead! But you upset me the most. The others I knew would backstab me, but you? I didn't think you could lift a knife, and you promised you'd try to move the vote away from me. Courtney tells him she's useless: what was he expecting? She can't do anything: promises are on that list. Nothing for Amanda. Jaimie's turn. Courtney: Air Todd's dirty laundry. Courtney: Everyone knows what Todd's done. Jaime: be specific. Courtney: The backstabs! Jaime: So he worked for it and you didn't. Maybe I should vote for him -- right, Todd? Todd says Courtney went along with the lies, so she's as much of a liar as he is. But he deserves it more. For Amanda: Anything we should know about Courtney? Well, she's useless, she's ungrateful no matter what she gets from Rewards, she doesn't deserve to be here, and she's a bitch. How about Todd? Well, if he's so good at this, then why did he have to backstab everyone? Wasn't there a strategy that would have worked with less hurt feelings? Todd: Hey, I used strategy! It's a magic word! Jaime's done. Denise. Wow, they can all look her in the eye tonight. And yet they all got rid of her. (JR: Part II.) I would have won if I was in the F3: wonder why I didn't play for it... Amanda, you lied to most of us. Todd, you can't be trusted and you have no conscience. (Here comes the Hawk speechwriting team.) Courtney, you say what you feel and I respect that. (No, really! Where's the snakes and rats? Denise respects that Courtney hates everyone and says it! Isn't there at least a shrew metaphor here?) A minute to think -- or not-think -- and then they vote. Migawd, Courtney could get a mercy vote from Denise here -- and if she's got one, then we could be looking at a 3-3-1 split...
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12-16-07, 11:20 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: OMG" |
Same thing happened to me. We had a "weather update", with the weatherman referring to "this afternoon's weather conditions" then a series of commericals, interrupted by Survivor, which was then interrupted (yet again) by more commercials. I'm just glad it all worked out in time for the votes to be read.
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12-16-07, 10:14 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
And DH does a spectacular spit take when Jean Robert can't get the top off of the pen. D'oh! It's on the other side.
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12-16-07, 10:18 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I enjoyed the heck out of that survivor moment.
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12-16-07, 10:16 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Dear God! Todd with a mullet? At least Courtney looks pretty good. She's gone back up to 98 pounds.
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12-16-07, 10:16 PM (EST)
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55. "The votes and winner:" |
Wonder how much this was edited? Was that little actually asked, or were whole answers deleted from the episode?Okay, here we go. I get through the votes and then the Reunion is Kircon's exclusive domain. Just get to the winner and it's over for me. At least until MB uncovers next season's lone buttock of doom. And we're back. Jeff's standard speech: vote for a person, even if you do so in the process of voting against someone else. Jaime goes first, for whatever that's worth. Jaime goes Todd. Erik votes Amanda. Denise votes -- Courtney. JR says 'Well-played' as he casts; he now feels that person earned the million. James, Peih-Gee, and Frosti not shown. Jeff gets the votes, tallies, and then time-travels. We're live! (Gee, Amanda barely had time to play another whole season in that pause.) Jeff feels this was one of their best seasons. The Half-A.S.S.ed drugs are kicking in early... Time for the votes. Courtney. (Dead silence in the audience.)
Amanda. (Only the faintest applause.)
Todd. (Some cheering, but very little.)
Courtney. (Shock.)
Todd. (And still silence.)
Todd. (So very quiet...)
Todd. (Not a lot of cheering. Not very much at all.) Jeff? You may think this was one of the best seasons ever. But the rest of us watched it...
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12-16-07, 10:19 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: The votes and winner:" |
It's been a while since they've done the time warp at the Finale hasn't it?
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12-16-07, 11:02 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: winner? s that the real description?" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-16-07 AT 11:12 PM (EST)I think "winner" is not quite the right description here. "Annoying smirking monkey being given A million dollars" is my opinion. I cannot believe Amanda didn't think the jury would see Todd as a mastermind. In all the self-contradictory moves he made, each of the jury must have noticed one or two, and thought he had a real strategy. Amanda and Courtney are both fools for ditching Denise instead of Todd. I can't see Denise getting Todd's votes. edited to add: Ok, it would have been worse if Courtney won.
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12-16-07, 10:19 PM (EST)
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60. "Live post-episode discussion --" |
-- in the Live Chat room (left sidebar, Other Fun, Live Chat, enable Java before entering and use AyaK's Bar & Grill) whenever you're ready for it. Personally, I'm heading in there right now so I can skip Courtney's justifications for -- well -- everything. (Kircon's version will be more fun.) Oh, and congratulations to the two people who gave her a pair of the stupidest ballots in series history. Did Todd earn this win? Yes, and it's nice to see people respect that he played for it. Was it a good season? ... ...well, at least Courtney didn't win.
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12-17-07, 00:24 AM (EST)
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65. "Amanda at final tribal council" |
I have not seen someone choke so bad at a final tribal since, well... Stephanie in Survivor: Guatemala? Hell, even Stephanie didn't choke that bad! Before tonight's episode I'd pegged Todd, Amanda, and Courtney as the final 3, and I thought it would be a closer vote between Todd and Amanda; I didn't expect Courtney to even get a single vote.And then came the final tribal council, and Amanda just dug herself a deeper hole with each and every word that came out of her mouth! I am stunned that she buried herself so completely that even Courtney got more votes than she did. Ultimately I wanted Todd to win, so I was perfectly content to watch her sink her own ship, but I'm still in shock at how terrible her performance at final tribal was. Just... Wow. ~*~Andromeda~*~
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12-17-07, 01:36 AM (EST)
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67. "RE: Amanda at final tribal council" |
Scoutmaster Lill still holds the title for tanking FinalTribal, at least it was funny watching Amanda do it. Now, had she played the "world peace" card... 
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12-17-07, 10:21 AM (EST)
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69. "RE: Amanda at final tribal council" |
In my opinion, Amanda was playing too safe. Rather than playing for the win ("here are all the moves that I made that lead to me being here and you being there") she played it safe ("If I stay quiet you won't hate me"). For some juries this might have worked.Todd, on the other hand, went for the win. "yes, I backstabbed. Yes, I lied. But this is a game. I hold the relationships I made separate from the game. The lying is part of the game, and is over. I hope the relationships will last." This was brilliant, and should be recited at every final tribal council from here on. Well done Todd, you really were a master student of the game, from ep 1 to the finale.
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12-17-07, 11:44 AM (EST)
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71. "RE: Amanda at final tribal council" |
Amanda's performance wasn't good but I don't think it was worse than Sandra or Amber. Players often lost the game with their answers at TC. Todd may have been the first to actually win the votes. I think he won it when he shut up Jean Robert. His answers to Jaime were also better than the other two.
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80. "RE: Better luck next time?" |
Most of the players in AllStarSurvivor played exactly the same way they played before, just sayin'.
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12-18-07, 07:24 PM (EST)
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82. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I wonder what everyone thinks of the on-air anouncement of a direct out-of-game payment of $50,000.00 to Denise by the producer? It left me perplexed. What on earth (now that this - I think, regrettable - precedent has been set) are the qualifications for the award? Because certainly Denise isn't the first Survivor to have lost (or forfeited) position and/or employment because of her/his participation in the show. Too, it made me uncomfortable. Because it seemed to me to be a (however unintended) validation of Courtney's cruel assessment of Denise's quality of life. But then, I suppose it was no more damning than Denise's own on-air lament of her circumstances. Had I been her employer, after hearing that, I'm not so sure that she would have had a job. Any job.
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12-18-07, 07:29 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
You may want to take a quick peek at Fanatics -- the situation is getting pretty ugly. Denise basically lied on the air and made MB fall for it. Which admittedly is something of an accomplishment, but...
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12-18-07, 07:37 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-18-07 AT 08:03 PM (EST)Thank you, Estee. I thought of Fanatics about a split second after I hit the Post Message button and am about half-way through the thread. ETA: Wow! And to think that I'd given up hope that Denise would ever outgrow her reverence of authority ...
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12-18-07, 09:05 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Survivor #15 Episode #13 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Hi Georgianna -I agree with you, I was very surprised at what MD supposedly did over the commercial break. So she lost her job (supposedly) because she was so recognizable. Who cares WHY she lost it, she's not the first. I think it was a poor decision on MB's part to just give her a handout. She's a grown woman who made the decisino to come on Survivor and try and win a million. So she didn't, possibly due to a stupid decision on her part anyway. I have no problem with the '$100,000 to the favorite Survivor' handout, but sob-story handouts? Big mistake. geekboy 
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