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"Season Comparison"
wallysgal2002 1 desperate attention whore postings
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12-08-05, 02:02 PM (EST)
 
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I have been a faithful watcher of Starting Over from day one. I have certain issues in my life that I want to face with a positive attitude and not approach it in a wrongful manner. So far I feel this has been the worst season thus far and does not even compare to the others in any rating. The constant bickering between the housemates from the start is so unreal and if I want to watch a show that has beeps in it for the language mentioned on the show I would watch Maury or Jerry Springer for those beeps 
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olemiss4192 107 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-05, 09:24 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I too think this season is not like any other. I feel a different presence with the life coaches. Something has definately happened. I think Iyanla is leaving after this season, and could care less about the integrity of the show. I don't think her heart is in it and it shows by her actions. I think Iyanla and Rhonda really don't get along and see eye to eye like in the past. I think Rhonda is going thru the motions until Iyanla leaves. I don't know, but there has to be a reaon for the drastic change of the house and the lack of credibility as in the past. Just a thought.
I have read Joel's book and it is awesome!
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Dear Debby 64 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-05, 06:38 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I started watching at the beginning of season 2. Last season and during the couples, I feel the show helped me and helped me to understand others better.
When the real season started this year, I was looking for the same.........wow did that change.
I now honestly watch it as a comedy show and to come to these message boards to laugh at the show.
If it wasn't for the boards here, I probably wouldn't watch at all! I feel we get better feed back here and see what IS or ISN'T socially acceptable here this year.
Thanks for all the fun ladies!
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26mitogo 493 desperate attention whore postings
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12-10-05, 10:55 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Season Comparison" |
Thanks for the book suggestion ... I keep waiting for the show to go back to the quality of last year. I felt the beginning of 1st yr was weak and allowed for too much fighting until the women got busy with assignments but last year, for the most part, was EXCELLENT. I'd be scared to death if I were the next in line to go to the house this year. You'd be expecting to be there for REAL help with REAL and fixable problems in your own life and step into the middle of just any reality show!!! Regardless of whether the coaches get along or not, whether one is or isn't leaving, do they believe in their approach or not? If they are there to help women change their lives then they need to DO it and split later. Where are the assignments, where is the work, where are the boundries, the consequenses, the lessons, etc.? There may be a lot of fighting going on but the producers are also CHOOSING to show most of the fighting and trash talk. Some of us are going back to recorded shows to count the minutes of dishing vs. the minutes shown of group or individual lessons with women and their coach or Dr.Stan. Some great discussions or issues have been shown for such a short minute ... you can't get enough info to apply or think about for your own life and relationships ........... and THAT is the only reason I watch the show.
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jean48 3 desperate attention whore postings
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12-12-05, 06:25 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Season Comparison" |
change is good maybe the first season help you and second helping someone else. life brings about change.and maybe you have grown more of a person by watching the first
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Stormy Sky 129 desperate attention whore postings
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12-14-05, 01:50 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Season Comparison" |
Welcome to the site, wallysgal!!! I think it's just the mixture of the different personalities of the HG's. Maybe this season was meant to bring out how to "get along" with people you don't have anything in common with. I am enjoying seeing the interaction between the women. I think they will learn lessons about getting along with people who they wouldn't ordinarily "be friends" with in life, which is a WONDERFUL lesson for us all to learn.
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celisabeth 245 desperate attention whore postings
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12-14-05, 10:52 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I think there's a divide between the goals of, let's call it "the house" and the goals of "the show."The goals of the house, as I see it, are pretty much the stated goals of women supporting one another, getting their lives together, finding or learning the tools they need to make changes in their lives, altering the self-defeating patterns and mindsets into which they may have settled without having realized that they'd done it, etc. Then there are the goals of the show. I'd be interested in seeing a show that was more related to the goals of the house, where the women are supporting one another (not that they wouldn't sometimes struggle with how to support one another, or get frustrated with one another on occasion). However, it sometimes seems like the show is all about the drama, the fireworks, and the soap operaesque elements of throwing a diverse group of women together and watching them fight. None of these women are flawless, and yes, there's going to be conflict, but the show -- the producers, the story editors, etc. -- choose to devote a lotta airtime to the drama, the backstabbing, the pettiness, without showing much of the resolution (if and when there is any resolution).
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings
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02-13-06, 08:29 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I do remember bad behavior in season one, I even watched it in reruns to refresh the brain that I wasn't remember it all with wine and roses. However, I do rememember the woman being called more on actually behaving with respect towards one another. They didn't always achieve it but for instance in group they got called out if they were not speaking respectfully to each other. Now it seems like a gang bang session on Jerry Springer each time a new guest comes on. In the first season it seemed like when a house guest came on they were allowed to present their story without being humiliated by their life coaches or the other house guests. At least for that time they were the center of attention as they spoke about who they were and why they were there. While some had nebulous goals most had specific defined goals that had very specific steps. As an audience you could say OK so and so just finished a step because it was a physical step they had to achieve not some neboulous conversation IV had to have with the Universe to determine if the person was worthy. It seemed the guests were more involved with their projects and it didn't seem like they were always waiting for the LC to show up to do something. Many seemed to have on-going stuff they were doing that kept them busy and out of trouble. They didn't seem to have as much time to sit around and gossip and back stab. They still had their sessions but you also saw women at interviews, looking at apartments, doing real work. Maybe it didn't do well for ratings but I thought it was interesting to see what they were doing. I also thought they did more team building exercises. That seemed to be more of Rana's specialty but she made them go out and do exercises where as a group they had to learn to trust one another in various group activities. I think the past few seasons the woman have had too much free time. They have been encouraged to gossip and back stab to make the ratings go up as it gets juicy. They make no attempt to monitor and deesculate the house situation or try to get the roomates to work as a team. They don't have real achievable goals for the woman to work at so you end up with people who already are emotionaly frail all under the same roof.
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OklaBlue 1244 desperate attention whore postings
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02-13-06, 03:33 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Season Comparison" |
Tea hee...one lump or two, your sig is cute.
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VictoriaB 70 desperate attention whore postings
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02-19-06, 10:01 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I've watched since the first season and although I haven't liked all the women or identified with all their issues, I've learned a lot about healing the past and moving forward. Until this past week, I thought this season was the worst ever - mainly because of the Lisa1 debacle. Thinking back, season one had Nyanza and season two Christine2 who were IMHO, pretty much as irritating as Lisa1 --- but neither lasted as long in the house so it was fairly bearable. Nyanza 'graduated' (why, I'll never know!), and Christine was asked to leave, so their stays were relatively short. I've watched the entire past week over the last two days (on tape) and think they're finally getting back to what's made the other seasons so great. For the most part, the current HGs seem to be supportive of each other; all seem sincerely committed to changing their lives; they're all working on their assignments; and none seem to be trying to 'get over' on the LCs or hog the spotlight. Once again, I feel as though I'm picking up nuggets of useful information instead of just feeling frustrated and annoyed, like I have through most of this season. I agree that it would be helpful if the women had more realistic goals. I'm not jammin' on "Soaring" or "Filling the Cup" or whatever. I also agree that the LCs sometimes seem disconnected. I feel the integrity of the house has been compromised because of the Lisa1 situation, and I think the LCs haven't created as safe an environment for healing as they have in the past. But, I do think it's improving.
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DarkMoon 32 desperate attention whore postings
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02-20-06, 01:13 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I have been inspired by Iyanla. I have read 3 of her books. In The Meantime, The Value In The Valley and Yesterday I Cried. She has opened my heart, mind and soul. I am working through my own process and self healing. If you can't get what u want from the show, trust me start reading and you will be more enlightned and inspired like I have. Pick your favorite LC and just take the time to read and want you are looking for will come to you!
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sillybear 84 desperate attention whore postings
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02-21-06, 05:43 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Season Comparison" |
I think the problem with this season could be what they are not showing.I have noticed comments from past houseguests that things are not always as they seem due to editing.I have found it strange Rhonda has not mentioned Lisa 1 and what is going on with her.Seems odd to me.It is only one hour a day.Just a thought.
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