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"What is Trump doing?"
realitymedia 6 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-04, 09:48 PM (EST)
 
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"What is Trump doing?" |
What is Trump doing in the board room? He is making Maria go back and get all the girls to see if Staci J is crazy. Does this make any sense?
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Jep1974 693 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-04, 10:16 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
That whole thing made no sense; the girls are on a witch hunt, and ready to burn Stacie J at the stake. It is horrible, and so strange that Trump is playing into this without doing any research. Who will be next on the list of the excommunicated???The women's team is acting like a bunch of school girls, not like a group of professionals. Being a woman, it's embarassing to watch them. So sad. As a kid, no one ever pictured themselves driving a minivan...
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-04, 10:21 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
No,not really. This was a factor last season with Omarosa but since the women won the first six times, they never had an opportunity to Bring O' into the boardroom this early. However, now that the women have lost 2 out of three challenges, they were definitely looking to throw someone overboard. Stacie J. was not the reason the women lost this time. That responsibility lies with others on the team. Remember, this team got together last challenge and said that Stacie J. had to go and collectively, they were able to take her out. By the way, I don't remember anyone being all that "scared" when Stacie freaked out? They all just laughed at her. This was not Trump's finest hour and I can see the point that he is just looking for shock value in his last second decision to fire someone.
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Jep1974 693 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-04, 11:04 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I think I more or less agree with you, except that I do think O was a kook who contributed nothing to the team, where Stacie just had a moment, and could have brought something to the table. The women last season were not as brutal as this season. Of course, there was the cut-throat factor, but the women are now so hell bent on being anti-stacie that they have lost sight of the fact that there are other problems intrisic to their dynamic. Well, now with their little scapegoat gone, they will learn it soon enough.And yes, the girls originally basically laughed at her when the 8-ball thingy happened, where they have now spun this into something huge. Fortunately for their traumatized little selves, there is a staff psychologist on staff, to help them through their trauma. What a joke they are... Go Mosaic
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katerina03 1 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 00:35 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I am black and I just wish this show would give the chance to a black female who has an actual chance of winning. Both Omarosa and StacyJ were jokes. I hated Omarosa.
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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 09:40 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I disagree Katerina. Stacie J wasn't a joke. She could have gotten halfway if she'd managed the cattiness better.
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wonton9 12 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 02:17 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
Omorosa was horrible, but Stacy J was a very classy lady and is a fine representative.
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cbjusmc 54 desperate attention whore postings
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09-25-04, 03:24 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I agree with you completely!! Omarosa was a disgrace to black women, women and the human race in general with her antics. She completely deserved what happened to her. By the way, any one heard anything about her purposed t.v. show? Book deal? $5 million dollar Playboy offer? Did she even make any money on her 1-900 number?  )But as for Stacie J, I have to disagree with you there. Granted, she was somewhat out there in left field a little bit during the first task. However, she was just trying to motivate her team who took it the wrong way. They really didn't like her from the get go and when she did that, they went after her. But had it not been for that, they wouldn't have had anything on her. She was never really given the chance to prove herself on the show. But she did show some class and professionalism the way that she was attacked by the other women. I know I went off topic a little, but I think that they need to hire a black woman who's more like Kwame or Kevin in their mannerisms (professional, straight-forward and honest, but tactful). Neither one of these women are the best of what the African American race can offer (I would go into business much quicker with Stacie J than Omarosa simply because at least Stacie's professional and classy where Lady O is neither, but pretends to be)
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09-27-04, 02:26 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
QUOTE: "...I know I went off topic a little, but I think that they need to hire a black woman who's more like Kwame or Kevin in their mannerisms (professional, straight-forward and honest, but tactful). Neither one of these women are the best of what the African American race can offer (I would go into business much quicker with Stacie J than Omarosa simply because at least
Stacie's professional and classy where Lady O is neither, but
pretends to be)" END QUOTE
Hi, cbjusmc. The traits that you mentioned appear to be traits that Stacie J exhibited. I never saw her do anything during a task that was questionable. Of course, the editors left out footage about her precise work output to create the fiction that she was a problem employee. But she defended herself on her work output especially after the ice cream challenge.
In a best case scenario, there should be no comparisons between Omarosa and Stacie J. Two different people. Two different backgrounds. Two completely different approaches to life in the work place. But because of the history of this country, people are making comparisons because of their shared racial heritage. I blame the Burnett fellow for typecasting people based on stereotypes and editing footage in a way that misleads the public. This year's show is legions below last year's show. In short: YUCK. --Singer
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subman 1546 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 00:47 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I think that Stacie J. could have developed along the way, but she did mess up this show by getting to the warehouse to load up the toothpaste (if this was her task?) and not having the manpower or the necessary time to do the job. ALso, she was always wearing this "who me" expression that I could not understand. I agree, the women are flat out of excuses now that Stacie J. is gone.
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tannl 93 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 07:26 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
Actually, it made no sense to pick up the boxes of toothpaste that night because they had no place to store it. However, it was a good idea to go there the night before to assess the manpower needed to move the product.
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tannl 93 desperate attention whore postings
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09-25-04, 06:45 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I thought it was a dumb idea to use printers at such short notice. They could have gone to kinkoes and used good quality paper for their flyers.
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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 09:42 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
It's not really clear when Stacie was sent out to get the toothpaste, or when the decision was made. But it didn't make much of a difference with the task, so if it were for political bullsh*t, Stacie would still be on the team.
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09-24-04, 01:56 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-04 AT 02:04 AM (EST)Characteristic symptoms of Schizophrenia: Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):
Paranoid delusions, or delusions of persecution, for example believing that people are "out to get" you, or the thought that people are doing things when there is no external evidence that such things are taking place.
Delusions of reference - when things in the environment seem to be directly related to you even though they are not. For example it may seem as if people are talking about you or special personal messages are being communicated to you through the TV, radio, or other media.
Somatic Delusions are false beliefs about your body - for example that a terrible physical illness exists or that something foreign is inside or passing through your body.
Delusions of grandeur - for example when you believe that you are very special or have special powers or abilities. An example of a grandiouse delusion is thinking you are a famous rock star.
Hallucinations - Hallucinations can take a number of different forms - they can be: Visual, Auditory, Tactile, Olfactory, Gustatory experiences (tasting things that isn't there), Disorganized speech, Grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior, lack of emotion, Low energy, Affective flattening, Alogia (difficulty or inability to speak),
Inappropriate social skills, Inability to make friends or keep friends, Social isolation - person spends most of the day alone or only with close family
Note: Only one Criterion A symptom is required if delusions are bizarre or hallucinations consist of a voice keeping up a running commentary on the person’s behavior or thoughts, or two or more voices conversing with each other. Cognitive symptoms refer to the difficulties with concentration and memory. These can include: disorganized thinking, slow thinking, difficulty understanding, poor concentration, poor memory, difficulty expressing thoughts, difficulty integrating thoughts, feelings and behavior
Social/occupational dysfunction: Failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement.
Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms
----------------------- Well, Ivana managed to diagnose schizophrenia in Stacie when she had only known her for a couple of weeks, and according to the above, all Stacie really had was the feeling of being persecuted which will evaporate when Stacie leaves the Trump environment. Ivana is very dangerous to be around, as are the other girls for isolating her, and badgering her until she was out. Trump could really care less about inter-personal skills or a fair working environment, and yes, you are right.... he should have done his homework IF he was fair minded. I guess NY doesn't have labor laws. The product made it to the event, but the budget was over because Maria didn't do her job. Elizabeth shouldn't have to micro manage Maria, perhaps do a last minute check, but Maria should have been more savy to slippery contracts. Why didn't they just go to kinkos... they would have been under budget. Jen gives Trump a concise answer "Stacie is strange" and left it at that, wasn't good enough, Trump kept coaching her for more of a comment trying to put words in Jen's mouth. I was proud of Jen for doing that, because she probably feels like she doesn't really like how Stacie is behaving, but she needs more info and/or doesn't like back stabbing behavior. Trump makes no sense. Ivana's book report entitled: Note to self
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09-24-04, 02:09 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I think Trump himself is mentally UNSTABLE. Hey, I'm the Donald, why don't I fire Stacie J based on her team's "expert" medical analysis of her schizophrenia? Apex won't admit their faults, and they bring up Stacie J. Apex is shameful. Go Mosaic!
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09-24-04, 08:49 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
Paranoid delusions, or delusions of persecution, for example believing that people are "out to get" you, or the thought that people are doing things when there is no external evidence that such things are taking place.Check. Delusions of reference - when things in the environment seem to be directly related to you even though they are not. Check.
Disorganized speech, Grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
Check. Inappropriate social skills, Inability to make friends or keep friends, Social isolation - person spends most of the day alone Check. Social/occupational dysfunction: Failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement. Check. Sounds about right to me. Guess it's all good, then? That said: while Stacie J is nuttier than peanut brittle, they did bushwhack her pretty hard. And it's tough, in a business or social context, when everyone is, in fact, out to get you. But unfair--I mean, in the sense that she had any real chance of winning? Nah. She had a demonstrated history of not playing well with others. I went to her Web site, and she has a decidedly higher opinion of herself than appears warranted by anything she said or did on the show. I'm sorry, going that far out of your way to make yourself an outcast is just dumb. Given that giving up immunity was even dumber, I think Trump got the firing order about right. 
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Pepito 587 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 08:33 AM (EST)
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13. "Stacie and the Incident with the Homeless Person?" |
Hmmm, this must be where those reports from last summer come in. Something about a homeless woman hired to move boxes of toothpaste and ended up barfing all over the toothpaste or something, then went comatose in the van (on top of the toothpaste, of course.) Seems New York's finest were needed to clean up the mess and remove her.We all saw that those boxes would have been WAY too much for Stacie to handle alone, and we saw that Jen C. got her nose job all out of shape when she saw the quantity and refused to help. We also know that Stacie is not a stranger to arranging for temporary help (Challenge #1..) but at 2 AM or whatever did she just round up whomever she could find on the street? I think there was more than just the 8 ball incident. I think this incident was a factor, too. The board was really, really choppy. I think there was a LOT of editing. It was mentioned in the boardroom that Elizabeth was spending all her time "putting out fires". What fires? The only fire we saw was Maria and the printer, and E wasn't there. Must have been the 2 AM barfing woman issue. Which would explain why she wasn't around when Maria was on her own witht he printer at 2 AM... I don't think Dondi was totally taken by surprise (and y'all thought he couldn't act..). He could live with the 8 ball, but the comatose homeless woman was too much, and he manipulated the entire woman's team to come back and help him out on the firing so he could get away with firing her clean over the 8 ball incident. The barfing woman was such bad press it wouldn't be good PR to sit around the boardroom discussing it and memorializing it so those parts were cut. The 8 ball discussion left the viewers something to watch. I wonder what will be shown on Saturday's rerun. I won't be able to see it, (got a social life and an undependable VCR), would like to know thought what gets added in.. I love to second-guess The Apprentice, Pepito
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09-24-04, 05:41 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Stacie and the Incident with the Homeless Person?" |
I don't think that incident involved Staci J. At least not in regards to her moving the boxes from storage. The article stated that they hired this woman to help during their event in Washington Square Park. Wouldn't that have been the boys' team?
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09-24-04, 09:23 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
The DT is totally slipping, this is his second most major mistake he's made on the show. First, firing Bradford and now totally stooping to the level of the women's team by having them belittle Stacie J. on national t.v. and smearing her name and reputation. If he was that concerned if she was "Crazy" why didn't he just play back the tapes for verification? That would have been the sensible and fair thing to do, he then could have made his own assessment of the situation. If he would have done that he would've have seen how manipulative and vindictive those women were towards Stacie J. In my opinion I don't think Stacie J. is a psycho!
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09-24-04, 03:49 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I'm with the others who say the 8ball incident was just a scapegoat for stacie's hiring a homeless person.
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TiahCh 32 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-04, 05:19 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
Those women are a bunch of immature skanky HO's period! It would be an embarrassment if any of them win the job!
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frodo2 289 desperate attention whore postings
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09-25-04, 01:19 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
We have no evidence that Stacie hired a homeless person. She didn't talk about it on the Today show, and there was no discussion or footage on the regular Apprentice show. It's possible that Trump covered it up, but it seems like something like this would get out.
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09-24-04, 05:20 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
I agree that Stacie shouldn't have gone home this week, but her parting comments were pretty funny. In the taxi cab, she kept saying she wasn't crazy. "Crazy people blow up buildings, kill people," and, oh yeah, "don't pay their taxes". And then she says something like "I pay my taxes, so I know I'm not crazy". Okay, up till this point I didn't think Stacie was "crazy" or "unstable", but her definition of crazy people was pretty bizarre and hilarious. And either, Stacie didn't speak up to defend herself during the board meeting or they edited out her comments. All she kept saying was "I'm not crazy" - Why didn't she argue and point out the errors made by the other members. Ivana or Maria are much more deserving of being fired and I would have called them on it. We'll see what the additional 15 minutes on Saturday brings.
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banzai 556 desperate attention whore postings
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09-26-04, 01:09 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: What is Trump doing?" |
The only word left to describe Mr. Trump is: unorthodox. This week lesson is overbudget. But he looks at the overall performance of the 3 weeks and not only this 3rd week.
And Mr. Trump was looking for Ivana. He asked Liz where's Ivana? Shouldn't Ivana be in this week boardroom over Stacie J? He's hunting for Ivana now.
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