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12-11-05, 07:21 PM (EST)
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"S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Please keep all discussion of tonight's episode on this thread until 11:00PM Eastern Time. Thanks
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Chez 12-11-05 1
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Estee 12-11-05 2
       RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... volsfan 12-11-05 3
           RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Estee 12-11-05 5
           RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... vince3 12-11-05 7
               RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Chez 12-11-05 9
   Owwwwww cycles2k 12-11-05 4
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... MacabreMasquerade 12-11-05 14
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... strid333 12-11-05 6
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Estee 12-11-05 8
       RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... strid333 12-11-05 10
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... tikigirlie 12-11-05 11
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Outfrontgirl 12-11-05 12
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Estee 12-11-05 13
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... cycles2k 12-11-05 16
       RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Outfrontgirl 12-11-05 26
           RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... cycles2k 12-11-05 30
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Risti 12-11-05 15
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Bravehart 12-11-05 20
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... volsfan 12-11-05 21
 Only one can be the ultimate winner... Estee 12-11-05 17
 Ooooh, its on. cycles2k 12-11-05 18
 Dear Gawd! volsfan 12-11-05 19
   RE: Dear Gawd! Estee 12-11-05 22
       RE: Dear Gawd! volsfan 12-11-05 25
           RE: Dear Gawd! Estee 12-11-05 28
   RE: Dear Gawd! kathliam 12-11-05 23
       RE: Dear Gawd! Estee 12-11-05 24
 Survivor Recrap cycles2k 12-11-05 27
   RE: Survivor Recrap Bravehart 12-11-05 29
       RE: Survivor Recrap PepeLePew13 12-11-05 35
           RE: Survivor Recrap Bravehart 12-11-05 58
 STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH Snidget 12-11-05 31
   RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH cycles2k 12-11-05 34
       RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH Estee 12-11-05 41
           RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH volsfan 12-11-05 48
           RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH vince3 12-11-05 50
       RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH jen71 12-11-05 43
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 32
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Estee 12-11-05 45
 Treemail kathliam 12-11-05 33
 YE GODS! vince3 12-11-05 36
   RE: YE GODS! volsfan 12-11-05 40
   RE: YE GODS! Estee 12-11-05 46
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 37
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 38
 Challenge kathliam 12-11-05 39
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... CattyChat 12-11-05 42
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... flygirl 12-11-05 44
 Rafe is OFFICIALLY DOOMED!!!!! vince3 12-11-05 47
 Rafe has class cycles2k 12-11-05 49
   RE: Rafe has class strid333 12-11-05 56
       RE: Rafe has class Estee 12-11-05 68
           RE: Rafe has class kathliam 12-11-05 70
   RE: Rafe has class dabo 12-12-05 149
 Disrespectful Beotches CattyChat 12-11-05 51
 Back at camp kathliam 12-11-05 52
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 53
 THAT'S what i'm talking about CattyChat 12-11-05 54
   RE: THAT'S what i'm talking about cycles2k 12-11-05 57
       RE: THAT'S what i'm talking about CattyChat 12-11-05 61
 Tribal Council kathliam 12-11-05 55
   RE: Tribal Council flygirl 12-11-05 60
 It's official. Estee 12-11-05 59
   RE: It's official. ViningsGal 12-11-05 62
 Stef still hungry?? CattyChat 12-11-05 63
 Morning -- Day 38 kathliam 12-11-05 64
   RE: Morning -- Day 38 cycles2k 12-11-05 65
 Amy should have won! Bravehart 12-11-05 66
   RE: Amy should have won! ViningsGal 12-11-05 67
 Survivor Record? CattyChat 12-11-05 69
 Poor Rafe cycles2k 12-11-05 71
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 72
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 73
       RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... cycles2k 12-11-05 75
 Final Immunity Winner cycles2k 12-11-05 74
   RE: Final Immunity Winner strid333 12-11-05 80
   RE: Final Immunity Winner Bravehart 12-11-05 83
 At least...... vince3 12-11-05 76
   RE: At least...... vince3 12-11-05 91
 Yipee, Danni CattyChat 12-11-05 77
   RE: Yipee, Danni Snidget 12-11-05 82
       RE: Yipee, Danni CattyChat 12-11-05 93
 Rafe...the big doofus! volsfan 12-11-05 78
 F3 Immunity Challenge kathliam 12-11-05 79
   RE: F3 Immunity Challenge frisky 12-11-05 84
   RE: F3 Immunity Challenge corcam 12-11-05 95
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Fishercat 12-11-05 81
 Steph's really working it.... vince3 12-11-05 85
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... ViningsGal 12-11-05 86
 The jury's loving this! vince3 12-11-05 87
 Back at camp...and Tribal Council kathliam 12-11-05 88
 Danni's a #####! ViningsGal 12-11-05 89
   RE: Danni's a #####! Fishercat 12-11-05 92
 NOOOOOO! CattyChat 12-11-05 90
   RE: NOOOOOO! flygirl 12-11-05 94
       RE: NOOOOOO CattyChat 12-11-05 99
   RE: NOOOOOO! Bravehart 12-11-05 98
   RE: NOOOOOO! dabo 12-12-05 150
 Final Vote Question! vince3 12-11-05 96
   RE: Final Vote Question! ViningsGal 12-11-05 97
   RE: Final Vote Question! Wallflower66 12-11-05 103
 Stephanie's voice cycles2k 12-11-05 100
   RE: Stephanie's voice ViningsGal 12-11-05 104
 Final Tribal Council kathliam 12-11-05 101
   RE: Final Tribal Council Alchemist 12-11-05 102
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... willinCal 12-11-05 105
 Jury Questions kathliam 12-11-05 106
 Hey, Judd -- Estee 12-11-05 107
 Steph More Honest CattyChat 12-11-05 108
 Irony Bravehart 12-11-05 109
 My First Spoiler cycles2k 12-11-05 110
 Closing Statements and Vote kathliam 12-11-05 111
 Back to USA CattyChat 12-11-05 112
 Glad to see... ViningsGal 12-11-05 113
 Who are those two woman? Snidget 12-11-05 114
   RE: Who are those two woman? sorgee 12-11-05 116
 Final Survivor is cycles2k 12-11-05 115
   RE: Final Survivor is vince3 12-11-05 117
       RE: Final Survivor is cycles2k 12-11-05 119
           RE: Final Survivor is vince3 12-11-05 122
               RE: Final Survivor is cycles2k 12-11-05 128
   RE: Final Survivor is Wallflower66 12-11-05 120
 The Vote kathliam 12-11-05 118
 The Big Reveal kathliam 12-11-05 121
   RE: The Big Reveal corcam 12-11-05 123
       RE: The Big Reveal flygirl 12-11-05 126
   RE: The Big Reveal anotherkim 12-11-05 124
 Rupert! vince3 12-11-05 125
 Awwwwwww Poor Steph IceCat 12-11-05 127
   RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph willinCal 12-11-05 129
   RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph corcam 12-11-05 130
       RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph Fishercat 12-11-05 131
           RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph Wallflower66 12-11-05 132
           RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph corcam 12-11-05 135
               RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph Fishercat 12-11-05 139
       RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph PenMike 12-11-05 133
           RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph corcam 12-11-05 138
       She was voted out IceCat 12-11-05 134
 Survivor: Erotica? PepeLePew13 12-11-05 136
   RE: Survivor: Erotica? Wallflower66 12-11-05 137
       Survivor 12 location toad8098 12-11-05 142
           RE: Survivor 12 location dabo 12-12-05 152
 Gnite Gang cycles2k 12-11-05 140
 Season 12 vince3 12-11-05 141
   RE: Season 12 PepeLePew13 12-11-05 144
       RE: Season 12 clemsonbeav 12-11-05 145
       RE: Season 12 vince3 12-11-05 146
 RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... J Slice 12-11-05 143
   RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Th... Charmqn 12-11-05 147
       what's on the exile island? littletown 12-11-05 148
 Wins by controlling person AyaK 12-12-05 151
   RE: Wins by controlling person dabo 12-12-05 153
       One point AyaK 12-12-05 155
 Weird freaky moment of the night Outfrontgirl 12-12-05 154

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Chez 777 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-05, 07:41 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 07:42 PM (EST)

Due to the football game going late, 60 Minutes is just starting. But it appears they will only do 2 stories instead of 3. So estimated time for Survivor is about 8:25.

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12-11-05, 07:49 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 07:52 PM (EST)

This is all Eli Manning's fault. He saved those interceptions for the fourth quarter knowing it would postpone Survivor all over the media market.

Hmph. Bet he's a Weaver-backer, too.

ETA: Yes, I know it's the wrong network, but the Manning karma stretches out across the football universe. As Eli intercepts, so throws the league.

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12-11-05, 07:52 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
The Cowboys game didn't go off here until 7:25 so if 60 minutes wasn't joined in progress then it will be the full hour.
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12-11-05, 07:55 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
The Cowboys were all slowed down by watching Eli's interceptions on the big screen. That can take twenty minutes out of your day.
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12-11-05, 07:58 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
IF they go the full hour it'd be closer to 8:35 because the game ended at 7:35 according to my VCR's clock.

BUT they did say it would be an abbreviated episode so hopefully it'll be done sooner like 8:20 or so

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12-11-05, 08:00 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
See post 1. They are only doing two stories instead of the usual 3.
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12-11-05, 07:54 PM (EST)
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4. "Owwwwww"
Here we sit, the receiver set to the east-coast feed, snacks laid out and guests arriving soon ...... but noooooooooo, CBS is late

The 60 Minutes story about the border crossing is very sad too.

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12-11-05, 08:14 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Well, here, there's the Packer game. Survivor got moved behind that too, so I've got quite a while to wait. Meh, stupid NFL...
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12-11-05, 07:57 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 08:01 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 07:58 PM (EST)

Well, I just watched The Simpsons and Survivor should follow right after. The Simpsons was really good. I love Sideshow Bob episodes. He sang opera this time.

Ah, d'oh. There is now a scroller saying that Survivor will immediately follow the program that is in progress. I'm watching The West Wing now.

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12-11-05, 07:59 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
What was the rake count?

Y'know, there really should be a reward challenge involving stepping on rakes.

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12-11-05, 08:02 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Two.

One for Bob and one for his son.

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12-11-05, 08:02 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
officially, survivor starts at 8:22pm.

but whatever, the colts won again today! 13-0 ...

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12-11-05, 08:09 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
About the ONLY upside to TV-watching from two hours behind Pacific time--we never get shows bumped by live stuff because at 7pm here it is midnight or 1am on east coast (depending on daylight time).

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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings
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12-11-05, 08:11 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Just you wait, 'enry 'iggins. Just -- you -- wait.
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12-11-05, 08:19 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Do you get to see the show from an East coast satellite or cable feed?
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12-11-05, 08:26 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
were you asking me, cycles? No, unfortunately. Our local affiliates make sure that the satellite and cable don't provide east coast feeds on network shows. We just have to wait.

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12-11-05, 08:33 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Yes, I was asking you, Outfrontgirl.

Here (Alberta Canada) we have both US and Canadian East coast feeds on satellite and US network East coast feeds on cable. I assumed everyone had the same nowadays.

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12-11-05, 08:14 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Why isn't my Survivor on right now?

I mean seriously.

Global is showing pure filler (a promotional hour for their top shows) and I think Dateline was on the other channel.

Why is this somehow more important than Survivor?

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12-11-05, 08:22 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
K, it's on! Going over the past episodes...highlighting

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12-11-05, 08:22 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
The football games ran late here in the states and then 60 minutes came on. Some peeps got the entire hour of 60 minutes while other parts got an abbreviated verson.
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12-11-05, 08:20 PM (EST)
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17. "Only one can be the ultimate winner!"
Only seventeen can be the ultimate whiners!
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12-11-05, 08:21 PM (EST)
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18. "Ooooh, its on."
Right now
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12-11-05, 08:21 PM (EST)
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19. "Dear Gawd!"
It's a recarp from day 1!
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12-11-05, 08:23 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Dear Gawd!"
It's like Jeff and Donald had a love child and it grew up to be a film editor.
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12-11-05, 08:25 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Dear Gawd!"
This is just too damn skeery to think about.
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12-11-05, 08:31 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Dear Gawd!"
Not unless you try to picture its hair.
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12-11-05, 08:23 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Dear Gawd!"
Just in case there are any first-time viewers, apparently.
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12-11-05, 08:24 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Dear Gawd!"
Actually, this is for all the people who can't figure out the boot foreshadowing in each episode. Apparently there's about 58,000,000 of them. :p
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12-11-05, 08:29 PM (EST)
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27. "Survivor Recrap"
For those who missed the recrap, or nodded off:

1) People were voted out.
2) Some people were mad at each other.
3) Promises were made, promises were broken.
4) Four survivors remain.

Queue music..........

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12-11-05, 08:33 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Survivor Recrap"
If The final 4 wanted the car so bad.....why didn't they make a deal with Cindy when she had a few minutes to think about her decision. It didn't show anyone speakin out! Saying Yea, if you give me a car...I'll take you to the final 2!

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12-11-05, 08:41 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Survivor Recrap"
Such a promise would be about as trustworthy as, oh, let's say the tribe telling Jamie not to worry and that he's safe...



Scratch and sniff
"Tsk, tsk. Pepe's messing with the newbies again." Spidey, 3/30/05

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12-11-05, 09:05 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: Survivor Recrap"
It's never been done before on Survivor....C'mon...A Car! it would influence at least to the final 4!

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12-11-05, 08:38 PM (EST)
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31. "STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH"
you don't need to eat the sacrifices to the Gods.
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12-11-05, 08:41 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH"
Somehow she missed the whole point of the visit, and assumed it was people coming to bring food to her.
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12-11-05, 08:48 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH"
That's been the whole point of every challenge to date... bets she tries to eat what's left of the chicken when they get back to camp?
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48. "RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH"
You hit the nail on the head. Lydia helped her but they ate the damn thing.
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50. "RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH"
Good thing I didn't take you up on that offer!

*DUN DUN DUN*

After the chicken was eaten, a HUGE RAINSTORM MOVED IN!!! LOL

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43. "RE: STEPH YOU ATE ENOUGH"
>Somehow she missed the whole point
>of the visit, and assumed
>it was people coming to
>bring food to her.


I hope they've got snacks at the reunion show for her since she can't seem to go more than a minute without thinking about food!

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32. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Sacrificing Chickens! Time for PETA to step in.. ha! Stephenie didn't know that chickens can't live without their heads.
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45. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
You've got to remember: that was coming from someone who lives without a brain.
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33. "Treemail"
Lydia collects the tree mail. The message is that Mayan history is alive and all around, they are part of it now. Lydia thinks based on the message they will receive a celebration. She has a vision they will receive a feast. The other survivors pretty much think she's crazy.

Soon, a group of Mayans come around the corner of the ruins and begin an ritual. Stephenie is narrating the ritual, and each time they use a food product she says, hey, we'd like to eat that. Rafe finds the ceremony interesting. At the end of the ceremony the survivors are included with some food. Steph has Lydia ask if they can eat the chicken that was sacrificed. Uh, no.

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36. "YE GODS!"
That is a HUGE maze! Very complicated, well designed guys!
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40. "RE: YE GODS!"
Hell, I am worn out just watching them. What a maze!
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46. "RE: YE GODS!"
Fair credit: one of the best-looking challenges ever -- seen from overhead. From within, really cheap fabric, some of which already had holes in it.
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37. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
RAfe and Steph on their final pieces, time to put the puzzles together.
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38. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Rafe wins as Lydia brings in her last piece.... someone is going home tonight, head back to camp.
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39. "Challenge"
Huge maze challenge. Run through the maze to find the 8 puzzle pieces that match your color. There are 6 stations, 8 pieces. Cross over pontoons to their puzzle station to drop pieces, then return to maze. The puzzles are different images. First person to complete puzzle wins immunity.

Steph and Lydia have first pieces. Danni, Rafe. Rafe in the lead with 4 pieces, Steph, Danni all have 4. Rafe and Steph have 5, Lydia brings back 2 for 5. Danni has 5, Rafe has 6, Steph has 6. Danni has 6, Lydia is lost, Rafe coming back with final pieces, Steph right behind him.

Rafe and Steph starting on their puzzles. Danni finds her last pair of pieces and starts her puzzle. Lydia finds her last piece.

Rafe asks Jeff to check his puzzle. He is correct -- Rafe wins immunity.

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42. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Yay, Rafe!! Don't vote out Danni.
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44. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
A really impressive maze and a tough challenge that required physical and mental skills. Great final 4 challenge.
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47. "Rafe is OFFICIALLY DOOMED!!!!!"
Steph just announced her plans to try to get her and Rafe to F2!
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49. "Rafe has class"
He is the only one who respected the ritual that the Mayans performed for them.

Stephanie wants to stuff her face, so convinces others to go along with it.

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56. "RE: Rafe has class"
I agree. I wouldn't have eaten that chicken either. In fact, I would've tried harder to get the others not to eat it. I would've said something like that's stomping on somebody's grave or that like ripping pages out of the Bible.
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68. "RE: Rafe has class"
Realistically, if this was Survivor: Vatican City, Stephenie would have been starring at the priest. 'Are you going to drink all that wine?'
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70. "RE: Rafe has class"
"What do you mean I only get one wafer?"
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149. "RE: Rafe has class"
ditto. Too bad for him though, Survivor is a no class game.
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51. "Disrespectful Beotches"
At lesat Rafe didn't show such disrespect to eat the sacrfice. Could be a foreshadowing that he wins!!
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52. "Back at camp"
Comments about how hard the challenge was. Rafe amazed to have immunity necklace again. Steph lobbying Rafe to take her to F2, he's the only person she may be able to win against. Steph thinks they should take Lydia to F3 challenge, she won't win. (IMHO, no way, F3 is always endurance and Lydia has a very low center of gravity.)

Rafe says Lydia may be better strategy to take to F3, but he promised Danni. Danni realizes that promise may not hold up.

Danni and Rafe are working on corn. Rafe suggests they check out the chicken carcas on the fire. Steph and Lydia do so and think it's edible, Lydia takes the opportunity to ask Steph to keep her around one more day.

They decide to eat the chicken. Rafe isn't so sure about eating the chicken, he won't do it because it will violate the ritual he witnessed. (So, will all the women come down with food poisoning and, voila, Rafe wins the game?)

It's pouring rain, huge storm, they wonder if they have angered the gods by eating the chicken.

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53. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Again, no discussion that Stephenie might be voted for... what is wrong with Lydia and Danni??
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54. "THAT'S what i'm talking about "
May the best survivor win!
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57. "RE: THAT'S what i'm talking about "
Or, if not the best, then anybody but Steph (Stuffany)
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61. "RE: THAT'S what i'm talking about "
She should be cut next. Heck, she should be happy to make F3. This is her SECOND chance, after all. Time for her to go away!
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55. "Tribal Council"
Jiffy asks Rafe aboutu Mayan ceremony, he describes it for the jury. He feels more connected to the land having witnessed the ritual. Lydia confirms Jiffy's question whether they had a storm. Lydia tells Jiffy the story of eating the chicken that was sacrificed. Rafe tells them he didn't eat any chicken. Danni and Steph confess they did.

Lydia doesn't think she poses a physical threat to anyone, they should keep her to make it to F2. Danni says she is a threat at F2 because everyone likes her. Steph agrees Lydia well liked, but so is Danni.

Time to vote. Rafe votes first (not shown). Danni second, lydia third, Steph last. Jiffy will go tally the votes. First vote - Danni. Second vote - Lydia. Third vote - Lydia. Fourth vote - Lydia. Hugs all around, she tells them to stay strong.

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60. "RE: Tribal Council"
By far one of the best tribal councils! We were laughing hysterically at the 3 women who ate the chicken while Rafe is going on and on about rituals and traditions and how he couldn't disrespect the ceremony by eating the chicken. A real funny, lite moment!
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59. "It's official."
There is now no one left in the region that Stephenie has not directly irritated. Humans, animals, deities -- she's gotten everyone. Applause?
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62. "RE: It's official."
Even the monkeys!!!
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63. "Stef still hungry??"
Wonder if Steph will want to eat the remains of this sacrifice, too
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64. "Morning -- Day 38"
It was a dark and stormy night....

The fire has gone out. The howler monkeys are really loud. (No, it's just Judd practicing his finale speech.) The corn is wet and has maggots.

All three collect TreeMail. It's the traditional Fallen Comrades ceremony. Pay tribute and sacrifice their pictures to the fire.

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65. "RE: Morning -- Day 38"
Lookout maggots, here comes Stephanie to stuff you in her mouth.
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66. "Amy should have won! "
These final 3 are tough....but....Amy was tougher!

Amy should have won! I guess it just wan't in the stars for the toughest woman out there to win!!!


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67. "RE: Amy should have won! "
Steph is tough, but I sure as hell don't want to see her in the F2.
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69. "Survivor Record?"
Steph has to hold the record for survivor who missed THE LEAST meals. Everyone sucked up to her so much, she got to share in almost all rewards. No one should feel bad for voting her out. I would love a Rafe/Danni F2 -- what a great match up. It should be close.
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71. "Poor Rafe"
Just lost a million bucks.
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72. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Rafe is out of balancing challenge. I hope one of these biotches bring him to F2!
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73. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Danni won final immunity! She must bring Rafe!
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75. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 09:31 PM (EST)

I hope she does, I fear she will not.

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74. "Final Immunity Winner"
Is Danni,

Rafe, again, shows a lot of class. He releases Danni from her promise and comforts Steph.

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80. "RE: Final Immunity Winner"
What Rafe did is almost what Ian did last season. I think Rafe said that because he liked the way that the women fought and felt that maybe he didn't deserve to be in the final 2. I guess we'll have to watch tomorrow's interviews to find out.
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83. "RE: Final Immunity Winner"
I saw his release of responsibility as desparation....since Dannie has the power!
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76. "At least......"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 09:32 PM (EST)

Danni won the challenge without making a deal.

Rafe states he'd REALLY like to make F2 but tells Danni to take whoever, he won't begrudge her. (We shall see...)

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91. "RE: At least......"
Rafe in confessional IS BITTER. He states he's rooting for Steph, and WILL VOTE FOR STEPH!!!!
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77. "Yipee, Danni"
Way to go, Danni. She better take Rafe. Why is Steph crying, does she have to get EVERYTHING?? Sick of it. Last season I felt sorry for her, now it is REALLY old & irritating. Spoiled brat!
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82. "RE: Yipee, Danni"
While some of the tears might be emotion (and it isn't easy on anyone to lose at that stage) given the angle she was at for a lot of that challange I suspect she was actually in enough pain that it would be extremely hard to just cowboy up and not shed any tears.
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93. "RE: Yipee, Danni"
I agree, Snidge, that could be why the tears, but you know the story of the boy who cried wolf . . .
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78. "Rafe...the big doofus!"
He tells Danni to take whoever she wants and he won't hold her to her promise. Hell, Rafe...leave Steph lying there on the ground to roast in the sun and make the final two.
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79. "F3 Immunity Challenge"
Balance on wobbly platform as long as you can. The platform swivels 360 and is unstable. For first hour they may hold onto 2 ropes. After first hour may only hold onto 1 rope. After additional 30 minutes must release second rope.

Rafe looks pretty steady. Steph seems to be testing the platform while she has rope to hold onto.

One hour has elapsed, they must release one rope. Steph and Danni start to wobble, fall off their platforms but are saved by their rope, Rafe also. As long as their feet do not touch the ground they are okay. They all found a spot against a pole to lead against with their feet on the platform.

One hour thirty minutes, release the rope. Hands may not touch the posts. Rafe adjusts his position and touches the post with his hand, is out of the challenge. He lost focus and didn't realize what he was doing.

Steph looks uncomfortable, Danni looks pretty casual. (Danni has longer legs, will this challenge benefit her?) Steph is sinking lower and lower on the post, danni almost standing upright. Steph struggling to get more upright and falls.

Danni wins final immunity. Steph is crying, Danni tells Steph she's the strongest girl she knows. Rafe tells Danni he releases her from any F2 promises, she can take whoever she wants.

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84. "RE: F3 Immunity Challenge"
Danni says Steph fought so hard today. Rafe says that's why he released her from her promise.

Rafe keeps mentioning to Danni how he let her out of the promise LOL.

Steph thinks she has a fifty-fifty chance. Well, DUH!

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95. "RE: F3 Immunity Challenge"
See this is what I dont understand they need to make physical challenges equal. They make all the platforms the same size width ect. When clearly there is always going to be someone who has better odds at winning.

That being said out of Danni Steph I dont care who wins b/c technically between the final 5 the only one I didn't like was Lydia.

I don't see how Steph is getting the grunt of the blame from her tribemates when Rafe who just left clearly stated he was going against his alliance to try and get Danni further along in the game. Now since Steph is the last one standing all the others will act like babies b/c she outlasted them.

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81. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Rafe's classy, compassionate, and a moron. At least Ian had a reason to throw away his shot at the final 2 (his guilt), Rafe was in either way (unless Danni backstabbed) and poof, there that goes. Possibly a 920,000 dollar mistake (? on the money)
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85. "Steph's really working it...."
She's flying that 'villian' flag that she's been making for the last 38 days.
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86. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Rafe is an idiot for relinquishing Danni of any promises. He did get her there! If Danni brings Steph it will only be because Steph screwed over most of the people on the jury.
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87. "The jury's loving this!"
They're exchanging knowing glances, winks and various secret handshakes during the grilling of the F3 talking about Danni's BIG decision.

And the victim is..... Rafe!

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88. "Back at camp...and Tribal Council"
Danni can't believe she made it to F2. It's a difficult position to be in, she's feeling a lot of pressure to vote out someone.

Rafe still wants to go to F2, knows Danni wouldn't still be there except for him. He wants to continue competing against Steph.

Jiffy asks if they regret, after weeks of booting out the strongest, just before F3 they vote out weakest. Want to go against the best. Rafe defends his releasing Danni from her promise. Danni says picking Rafe would be the right choice because he helped her get where she is. Steph would be the right choice because she's p*ssed off a lot of the jury. Steph says Rafe more likeable to the jury so she's a better choice. Rafe thinks they've p*ssed off the same people.

Danni goes to vote. She returns and has her head in her hands. Jiffy reads the vote, and Rafe is voted out.

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89. "Danni's a #####!"
I can't believe she picked Steph. I dont' want either one of them to win now! Boo!
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92. "RE: Danni's a #####!"
She may be a (whatever the obscenity was, bitch maybe?), but she was intelligent about it and I'm glad she was. She had to see all those high fives and smirks the jury made and know she made the right decision logically. Rafe's own fault for releasing the obligation that she would have honored.
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90. "NOOOOOO!"
Danni, you lost my respect. Yeah, that may have been the "smart" decision, but I think you would have won either way & maybe cost yourseld the game, because you voted against "conscience". Should be a good one. Steph might win for "game playing"
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94. "RE: NOOOOOO!"
I agree. If I were on the jury I think I would want to throw Danni a curve for taking the easier way out and vote for Steph.
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99. "RE: NOOOOOO"
I would vote out of spite, since Danni voted the way she did. Hope she's been watching & realizes she would have been long ago, if it weren't for Rafe. Yeah, Rafe was ignorant for letting her out of her promise. But I am so like him,I believe in the GOOD in people, that they would do the right thing. I'd rather win a tough competition, rather than a cake walk. No respect for Danni anymore.
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98. "RE: NOOOOOO!"
Well since the toughist chick didn't win (Amy). Then it's really hard to say who played the smartest game....Danni, the seemingly innocent....or Stephanie....the seemingly player.
It would be very interesting to see clips of what really went on in camp...rather than what EPMB says we can see.
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150. "RE: NOOOOOO!"
On the other hand, she had to spend the last night and day alone with Steph, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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96. "Final Vote Question!"
How do you guys think the final votes will be read? By this I mean will they:

A) be read at TC like the first season.

B) be read at the CBS soundstage after a BIG PRODUCTION NUMBER!!!

C) be read at the CBS soundstage after a slick transition.

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97. "RE: Final Vote Question!"
B
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103. "RE: Final Vote Question!"
Hopefully A, but probably B


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100. "Stephanie's voice"
Is grating on my nerves. She sounds like a honking goose.
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104. "RE: Stephanie's voice"
here here!
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101. "Final Tribal Council"
Steph points out that they are F2, the only names in yellow on merge flag. They go out to the pool to wash their clothes, take a quick swim and get a little sun. They're spending a lot of time complimenting each other on their game play.

Back at camp, they are breaking down the shelter and 'sacrificing' the palm fronds to the Mayan gods.

They arrive at Tribal Council, and the jury files in. Jiffy congratulates them on reaching F2. They will have opportunity to make opening statement, then jury questions, then closing statement.

Danni first, honored to be in this position, was in minority after the merge. Surprised no one thought she was a threat. Played game the best she could, most honest she could.

Steph, thanks everyone for making this an amazing experience for her, didn't think she would make it past first tribal council. Knows there are some upset with her, can't wait to talk with them and explain how she played.

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102. "RE: Final Tribal Council"
Lydia was and is the biggest "tool" this season.

Alchemist

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105. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
Oh Rafe....you're so IAN. It's a game! You're supposed to lie!

Danni...I like your decision to vote out Rafe however. You have a better chance of winning against Steph. Steph will get Rafe and Lydia's vote only. Besides, who wants to vote for Steph who has already had her chance?

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106. "Jury Questions"
Bobby Jon: Steph - knows the only reason he's on the jury is because of her. How proud is she of how she played the game? She's very proud, knows there are a couple people she back-stabbed, but played the best game she could. Danni - same question. Yes, she's proud, grateful to still be there, wished they had won more immunity challenges prior to merge.

Gary second, he will judge his vote who gives most honest answer. Steph - why should he not vote for her? They made alliance first day, then were separated, and she voted against him after they were merged again. Danni same question, she was selfish and made an alliance with Rafe when already had one with Gary.

Jamie: Danni, if she'd had numbers who would have been top 5? Bobby Jon, Gary, Brandon. Steph - Jamie wouldn't talk to people if he was voting them out, she would act their best friend, how does she think that will affect the jury? She didn't always know, she didn't feel comfortable telling people, hopes they would see she had good reasons for voting them.

Lydia: Steph, I was loyal to you entire game, why did you vote me out? If she took Lydia to F2 she knew she could beat her, wanted to compete against the best. Danni - you told me you would take care of me, why should I vote for you? Danni did talk to her but sometimes you have to vote someone out, it's part of the game.

Cindy. Danni, if you could take someone out of the jury who would it be. Rafe, he'll vote for Steph because they've had a bond from the beginning. Same question to Steph. She doesn't know, Bobby Jon because he was the first?

Rafe, congratulations, you were like my sisters. Danni, you told me if you were F3 and had to choose between taking who I could beat and who deserves to win, I would take who deserves to win, yet you did the opposite, why? Danni says it was based on how hard Steph played final challenge. Steph, you dominated game in terms of strategy, what was your best strategic move you didn't share with me? Doesn't think there was one, he was the only person she told everything to.

Judd, congratulations (to 'youse'). Asks Danni if she has ever ice skated or roller bladed. She says yes, he tells her she's a great skater because has skated through whole game. Asks Danni if she was deceitful? She says when Jamie asked who she was voting for and she told him Gary. Judd tells her sounds like she lied a lot and she should go straight to confession when returns home.

Judd asks Steph if she's eaten enough, she was always starving, the only thing she should be starving for now is his vote. All she did in the whole game was backstab and lie. She crossed the line when she lied to his wife that they had strongest alliance. He makes her a promise and will stick to his promise. Steph tells Judd she didn't lie to his wife because at the time she said that they did have a strong alliance, wasn't planning to vote him out at that point.

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107. "Hey, Judd --"
-- your speech sucked.

Man.

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108. "Steph More Honest"
I have to say, I think Steph was much better at answering the jury's questions & came off MUCH more honest . . . especially to Gary's question.

Judd actually had a great question/remark to Danni -- loved the ice skating ref. He was too beligerent with Steph . . . She exposed yet ANOTHER Judd lie & he got flustered & slumped back to his seat.

I really DIDN'T want a Steph win, until Danni made her lousy choice & Steph was much better at the final TC. So, my hope is Steph will win. Can't wait for closing remarks. I think Danni is coming across desperate & acting too guilty, Steph is owning up to what she did & is strong.

So, go Steph!

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109. "Irony"
Notice the irony of EPMB's editing of the last surivivor of the losing underdog tribe beating the last survivor of the losing underdog's team.
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110. "My First Spoiler"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 10:22 PM (EST)

For the first time, I made a prediction that was not based on SOTS and it came true.

Judd mispelled the name on the vote card.

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111. "Closing Statements and Vote"
Stephanie: Thanks for questions and comments. Survivor is hardest game anyone will play. Brings out some of worst qualities in people, doesn't make you a bad person, know I hurt people along the way and apologize, but came into the game with a plan to align with good people and try to always have numbers on my side. I never let anyone make decisions for me, had to take a leadership role in this game. I outwit, out played, outlasted and that's why I should win.

Danni: game into merge at disadvantage, wanted to sit back and see who was in control of game, it was Steph and Rafe and they are why you are sitting there now. Decided to align with strongest, now we're friends. I believe I outwit, outlasted, I would appreciate your vote tonight.

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112. "Back to USA"
Will Jeff ride the back of a howler monkey to the states?
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113. "Glad to see..."
Danni's shoulder bones are no longer protruding!
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114. "Who are those two woman?"
When they panned by I couldn't tell who was Steph and who was Danni.

I mean I know they clean up, but at least look something like you did out there.

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116. "RE: Who are those two woman?"
danni cleans up nice.
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115. "Final Survivor is"
Danni
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117. "RE: Final Survivor is"
And, by the looks of things, it was by a 6-1 margin!
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119. "RE: Final Survivor is"
I'm guessing 5-2 because maybe Cindy voted for Steph too, but I hope you are right and it was 6-1.
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122. "RE: Final Survivor is"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 10:36 PM (EST)

If it was 5-2 they probably would've shown the 2nd vote to keep people in suspense THAT much longer!

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128. "RE: Final Survivor is"
Prolly. MB does like to stretch the suspense.
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120. "RE: Final Survivor is"
Woooooofreakin'whoooooo!!!! Loved that Steph only got Rafe's vote! Great game, Danni!!! And she does look beautiful.
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118. "The Vote"
(Darn enter key)

Bobby Jon votes first. Gary votes. Judd votes, I always kept my promise, you never did, I promised I wouldn't vote for you, votes for Dani. Cindy votes. Lydia votes. Rafe votes, this game is about who you are, your character is your strategy, Steph you made the most of your strengths and turned your weaknesses into strengths out here, you are the ultimate Survivor. Jamie votes.

Jiffy goes to collect the votes. (In what dramatic fashion will he depart tonight?)

Jiffy leaves the Mayan ruins, walks down the steps to a waiting yellow helicopter, which magically has enough fuel to make it all the way to Los Angeles. The helicopter lands on the roof of the CBS studios.

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121. "The Big Reveal"
OK, the first thing I notice is that the jury are all dressed in street clothes and cleaned up. Don't they usually wear their Survivor gear?

The votes: first vote - Danni, second vote - Stephenie, Third vote - Danni, fourth vote - Danni (3-1), fifth vote - winner of Survivor Gautemala is Danni. !!!

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123. "RE: The Big Reveal"
Gag me.

I really didnt care who won in the end but it should have been close. I believe by far Steph played a better game, but jury vote on emotion not practicality. Congrats to Dani.

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126. "RE: The Big Reveal"
I totally agree. Gag me. Steph didn't deserve that. Jury should have respected that.
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124. "RE: The Big Reveal"
I can't remember exactly when they gave up that schtick, but this isn't the first season that they've just let them dress "normally" now that the suspense is gone from the reenactments.
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125. "Rupert!"
He's gonna present the check to Danni tommorow on the Early Show
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127. "Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
Don't worry Stephie...

They might call you back for a third season...

Yah big TWO TIME Loser!

Or maybe they'll have a national vote and give you a big ole Rupert Mercy Million.

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129. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
NOT!
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130. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
Like it or not she did last in the game of survivor b/c of the way she played the game while Danni floated by. Steph IMO deserved to win over Danni. Floating by and not playing the game it is meant to be played is an easy win. Not fighting for the win makes you Jenna.
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131. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
How did Danni not play the game? I'd say she played it better than Steph did simply because, in the end, she got 6 votes and Steph got one. The way she played the game got her to the Final 2, but that way alienated numerous allies, and you cannot win by betraying those close to you, it rarely if ever works.

Floating by is a strategy too, and at times, it's better to do nothing than run into the mouth of Judd's crocodiles.

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132. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 11:06 PM (EST)

Fishercat, I totally agree. Not to mention the fact that she was in the minority after the tribal switch! And then was on her own after Gary's ousting.

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135. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
Danni didnt start playing the game until the end while Steph was playing it from the beginning and not riding coattails.

Danni got a possible 6 votes b/c Steph has been on Survivor before, Danni came off more "likeable" and Steph had to turn on the majority of the jury b/c the majority was her alliance. That is how you get to the end turn on people, not float by and watch the others tear each other apart. Steph was the scapegoat at the end for the others fustration while numerous people from her alliance helped the others get there to the jury. It was not just Steph and Steph alone.

I don't constitute not fighting and winning by floating a strategy worth winning for.

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139. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
For me, the primary goal from TC to TC is not to be the best, rather to not be the worst, not to get voted out.

The primary goal in a general sense is to get to and be in the best possible position for the jury.

I do not, and cannot, believe that their previous Survivor experience hindered Steph in anyway. I have to believed it helped her early in terms of strategy and celebrity, and as the game went on, she got her own identity.

There are clearly MANY ways to get to the end. You can do the game where you turn on people (as Steph did), where you float by (as Danni did), a combination, or a completely different way (Tom from last season reminds me of that, or Brian from Thailand).

Sometimes the best way for an animal to get his food is to let the two more dominant animals kill each other and pick their carcasses. Maybe to you a passive game isn't a real strategy, and that is fine, you have the right to an opinion and it's valid. However, sometimes the ones to survive in life are the opportunists, the one not to take risks and not to upset people. In a game of popularity and human relations, there are many ways to win. However, over 11 seasons, a prevailing them is that personal relations will inevitably win over aggressive strategy that involved betrayal. Matthew likely played a better, strategical game in the Amazon, but Jenna did not do anything to hinder people voting for her. Sandra was similar, she got lucky to be paired with a horribly inept F2 partner, but I digress.

Sometimes, the coattails will pull you farther than your own efforts will.

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133. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
"Like it or not she did last in the game of survivor b/c of the way she played the game while Danni floated by. Steph IMO deserved to win over Danni. Floating by and not playing the game it is meant to be played is an easy win. Not fighting for the win makes you Jenna. "

Actually, Danni played hard all the way. She was a challenge threat and won more individual challenges than Steph. How anyone can say she didn't play the game is beyond me. Did she not get Judd voted out by playing Steph ( and having Judd blame Steph)?
She deserves the win, hands down!

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138. "RE: Awwwwwww Poor Steph"
I didnt say that she didnt play the game I said she floated until she thought it was a good idea to play the game. ;)
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134. "She was voted out"
... the first season she was on.

She didn't deserve to even set foot on on the set in Guatemala.

The whole idea of having losers from prior seasons return is worse than even that other reality TV abomination:

The TAR Non-Elimination Episode *grinds teeth*

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136. "Survivor: Erotica?"
Margaret regarding Blake:

I had his head on my lap and did what I could to keep him going.



Scratch and sniff
"Tsk, tsk. Pepe's messing with the newbies again." Spidey, 3/30/05

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12-11-05, 11:06 PM (EST)
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137. "RE: Survivor: Erotica?"
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-05 AT 11:07 PM (EST)

Pepe! You dirty-minded little skunk...LOL!

*Edited to remove sigpic.

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12-11-05, 11:21 PM (EST)
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142. "Survivor 12 location"
I must have missed the announced during the reunion, where is next season going to take place?? Is it Panama again?? Thanks!
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12-12-05, 01:16 AM (EST)
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152. "RE: Survivor 12 location"
Survivor Panama: Exile Island

I'm honestly surprised Jiffy reupped.

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12-11-05, 11:20 PM (EST)
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140. "Gnite Gang "
So Long Steph. I will not miss your whining, face stuffing or self centered nature.

Lydia, You grew on me. Hope you do well.

Rafe, you had class and a core decency, but should not have voted for Steph.

Danni, Well played.!!!!!!

To all the posters, Good night. Thanks for all the East Coast updates this season.

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12-11-05, 11:21 PM (EST)
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141. "Season 12"
Is named Survivor: Panama: Exile Island

Hidden on the exile's island is something that can help you win the million??? (Wonder if it's another II Idol?)

Only 16 Castaways, but a new tribe shakeout? (Tribes of 4, maybe?)

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12-11-05, 11:24 PM (EST)
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144. "RE: Season 12"
Oh great. I can see it already:

SExI: Panama.



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12-11-05, 11:27 PM (EST)
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145. "RE: Season 12"
Pepe. Cold shower. Now.
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12-11-05, 11:31 PM (EST)
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146. "RE: Season 12"
SExI: Panama.

Considering this years' Be the Amazing Racer is nicknamed BARFE, I propose this to be the OFFICIAL NICKNAME of the blows board for Season 12. All in favor, say AYE!

AYE!

(or should that be ARRGH!?!?)


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12-11-05, 11:21 PM (EST)
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143. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
So, Exile Island, eh?

Where are the guys in pirate costumes?

::yeesh::

This almost looks silly.

Glad this isn't the season I'm playing ^__^

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12-11-05, 11:36 PM (EST)
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147. "RE: S11 Finale East Coast Update Thread"
I agree! Danni looked absolutely gorgeous out there. All the men on the jury were checking her out. Probably one of the most beautiful survivors ever.
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12-11-05, 11:40 PM (EST)
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148. "what's on the exile island?"
well...maybe the reason they are going back to 16 contestants is they are doing the outkast tribe again?
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12-12-05, 01:11 AM (EST)
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151. "Wins by controlling person"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-05 AT 11:16 AM (EST)

I was just thinking about the small number of times that the person in "control" has won:

Series -- Person in control -- Winner
S1 ---- Richard ---- Richard **
S2 ---- Colby ---- Tina ++
S3 ---- Lex ---- Ethan ++
S4 ---- Tammy/Kathy ---- Vee
S5 ---- Brian ---- Brian **
S6 ---- Rob C. ---- Jenna
S7 ---- Jon ---- Sandra
S8 ---- Rob M. ---- Amber ++
S9 ---- Ami/Twila ---- Chris
S10 ---- Tom ---- Tom **
S11 ---- Stephenie ---- Danni

In 11 Survivors, the person in control has won three times, marked as ** (I listed two people in control in two of the series because of a revolution occuring before the Final 5). In addition, the "sidekick" of the person in control has won three times, marked as ++. That means that five times, a person who WASN'T in control has won. It was a shock when it first happened with Vee, but it's not shocking any longer.

It doesn't offer any help in predicting the future, but it's interesting. At least to me.

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12-12-05, 01:45 AM (EST)
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153. "RE: Wins by controlling person"
Point taken. However, a few observations.

Richard had control of S1 because no one else at that point had figured out the game the way he had.

Tina was the actual control of S2, though she was careful to exercise her control mainly over Colby and allow him the spotlight as much as possible.

Lex would almost certainly have won S3 had he made F2 against Mama Kim or Tom, but he probably wouldn't have beaten Ethan in any event.

In S4 Kathy took control from John and her position remained threatened throughout as she had no buddy in the game, though I expect she would have won had she made F2.

Brian who had control of S5 still had to take the biggest F2 goat in Survivor history, lazy and disgusting Clay, along for the ride. Granted, he might have won against Crazy Jan as well, but Helen would have given him a run for the money had he not stabbed her in the back.

Cesternino screwed up in S6 by keeping Jenna and getting rid of hairbrained Heidi, it should have been the other way around.

Almost anyone could have won S7 against Lillian at F2, the whole Ghost Tribe thing was the biggest jump the shark move ever made in Survivor history and it ruined the rest of the game.

Mariano should have won S8 but the other All-Stars were so full of themselves they couldn't admit they'd been beaten by a better player.

I was really rooting for Twila at the end of S9, but Chris had beaten long odds just to get to F4.

Tom was almost too good to be real.

As for S11, had Rafe made F2 I suspect the editing would have shown he had as much if not more control over the game than Stephenie. He totally screwed up at the end or he might have won regardless of who he faced at F2.

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12-12-05, 11:23 AM (EST)
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155. "One point"
In S4 Kathy took control from John and her position remained threatened throughout as she had no buddy in the game, though I expect she would have won had she made F2.

I agree about Kathy and changed the list above accordingly. She was the one who held together the 5-person "rebel" alliance. But I disagree about John. He was just the "face" of the alliance for our consumption: Tammy and the General were the central alliance, with Tammy in charge. When the others discussed decisions made by the alliance, it was "we" -- when Tammy discussed them, it was "I."

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12-12-05, 04:13 AM (EST)
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154. "Weird freaky moment of the night"
After all the talk about the chicken, the gods, and the thunder, right as they snuffed out Lydia--MY DVR BROKE. My NEW (although I don't own it) Hi-Def VCR decided it's Pau, kaput, froze up, grayed out, and died. Thanks to their damn chicken-eating greed I'll lose everything I have recorded.


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