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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 07:43 PM (EST) "S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Please keep all discussion of tonight's episode on this thread until 11:00PM Eastern Time. Thanks   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... volsfan 10-20-05 1    RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 2  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 3  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 4  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 5    Could anyone make out what Bobby Jo... Estee 10-20-05 9        RE: Could anyone make out what Bobb... Snidget 10-21-05 55            RE: Could anyone make out what Bobb... TenPin 10-21-05 57                RE: Could anyone make out what Bobb... oncebitten 10-21-05 58  II challenge alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 6    RE: II challenge alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 7        RE: II challenge volsfan 10-20-05 8            RE: II challenge Estee 10-20-05 10            RE: II challenge mysticwolf 10-20-05 11                RE: II challenge michel 10-20-05 35                    RE: II challenge Bebo 10-21-05 53            RE: II challenge okaychatt 10-20-05 51  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 12  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 13  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 14  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 15  Immunity pass-off. Estee 10-20-05 16    RE: Immunity pass-off. volsfan 10-20-05 18  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 17  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 19  RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thr... alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 20  The Judd Hour alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 21    RE: The Judd Hour volsfan 10-20-05 22    RE: The Judd Hour mysticwolf 10-20-05 23        I wanted to present the official Ju... Estee 10-20-05 26            RE: I wanted to present the officia... greenmonstah 10-20-05 31                RE: I wanted to present the officia... Fishercat 10-20-05 40    Judd needs moonbaby 10-20-05 34        RE: Judd needs Estee 10-20-05 37            RE: Judd needs Outfrontgirl 10-20-05 41        RE: Judd needs Wallflower66 10-20-05 46    RE: The Judd Hour Fishercat 10-20-05 39        RE: The Judd Hour Brownroach 10-21-05 56  Nakum TC votes alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 24    RE: Nakum TC votes alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 25  *cries* Quiddity99 10-20-05 27  Yaxha TC alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 28    RE: Yaxha TC volsfan 10-20-05 29        Idiots! Estee 10-20-05 32    Yaxha votes alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 30        RE: Yaxha votes michel 10-20-05 42            RE: Yaxha votes Brownroach 10-26-05 61        RE: Yaxha votes Bebo 10-20-05 48  Next Time alwaysintruble1 10-20-05 33    RE: Next Time applejack93 10-20-05 36        RE: Next Time Outfrontgirl 10-20-05 38            RE: Next Time michel 10-20-05 43                RE: Next Time Outfrontgirl 10-20-05 44                    RE: Next Time michel 10-20-05 45                        RE: Next Time littletown 10-20-05 47                            Judd the Butt Round Robin 10-20-05 49                                RE: Judd the Butt Round Robin 10-20-05 50                RE: Next Time KimberA00 10-21-05 54                    RE: Next Time dabo 10-22-05 59                    RE: Next Time Brownroach 10-24-05 60        RE: Next Time okaychatt 10-20-05 52

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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 07:52 PM (EST) 1. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Brandon gets first confessional!   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 07:54 PM (EST) 2. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" He can't figure out why they gave up the numbers advantage to vote Blake out. He asks BJ about it and BJ mubbled somethig about Blake getting on everyone's nerves.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 07:55 PM (EST) 3. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Nakum is complaining about all the bugs flying about (it's a jungle right?) Margret says she knows Judd wants her out but she's not giving up.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 07:57 PM (EST) 4. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" RC is rolling the ball 2 vs. 2. Winner is first to 3 points. Gets a feast of beer and burgers. Both tribes going to TC. Winning tribe will compete in a challenge for II and will get to sit in on the other tribes TC tonight.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:00 PM (EST) 5. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" LAST EDITED ON 10-20-05 AT 08:03 PM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 10-20-05 AT 08:01 PM (EST) 1st round Cindy/Steph vs. Amy/Danni - A/D win 2nd round Judd/Jamie vs. BJ/Brandon - Jamie/Judd win tied 1-1 - this is when Jamie/Bj bump chests. 3rd round Gary/Ami vs Judd/Steph - Judd/Steph win Nakum 2-1 - Ami goes down and is hurt, had to be helped off by Gary. 4th round Ami/Danni vs. Margret/Cindy - Ami/Danni win tied 2-2 5th round Judd/Jamie vs BJ/Brian - Judd/Jamie win - Judd falls down but recovers Nakum wins reward.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:07 PM (EST) 9. "Could anyone make out what Bobby Jon was yelling?" At one point, it sounded like he said 'This is my life!'   Top

Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-05, 08:46 AM (EST) 55. "RE: Could anyone make out what Bobby Jon was yelling?" I couldn't make it out and they didn't close caption it either.   Top

TenPin 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-21-05, 12:44 PM (EST) 57. "RE: Could anyone make out what Bobby Jon was yelling?" I think he was shouting "this is my line!" Meaning that he “owned” the field of play and they were in his territory. Typical big talk when defending your territory in sporting terms. TenPin   Top

oncebitten 145 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-21-05, 02:28 PM (EST) 58. "RE: Could anyone make out what Bobby Jon was yelling?" I thought he said "that is not nice" but it was hard to make out.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:04 PM (EST) 6. "II challenge" all race out to collect 3 letter bags to spell out two words. 1st done wins immunity.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:06 PM (EST) 7. "RE: II challenge" Steph and Cindy first back with all 3 bags. Everyone is close together. Judd having trouble getting letters out of bags. Rafe gets words and wins II. Judd blurted out the words even though he didn't have all his bags untied yet.   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:06 PM (EST) 8. "RE: II challenge" Judd = Idiot   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:08 PM (EST) 10. "RE: II challenge" While Judd's intelligence is up for debate, the other thing that crossed my mind is 'Judd = Rafe's alliance partner.'   Top

mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:09 PM (EST) 11. "RE: II challenge" Judd: "I didn't know I was that smart, man!" Neither did we, Judd. Neither did we.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:54 PM (EST) 35. "RE: II challenge" I think Judd simply wanted anyone but Margaret. He couldn't win so why not give the answer to Rafe.   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-05, 07:49 AM (EST) 53. "RE: II challenge" My thoughts exactly. As long as she wasn't immune, he was safe, so why not score some brownie points with another teammate. Handcrafted by RollDdice   Top

okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 11:37 PM (EST) 51. "RE: II challenge" <Judd = Idiot You mean, "Judd = Idiot, Man." I cannot wait for the week Judd is voted off. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:11 PM (EST) 12. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Nakum celebrating back at camp, talking about how BJ went nuts at the challenge. Jamie was hoping he would take a swing at him so he could block it and take him out.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:12 PM (EST) 13. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" BJ tells us that he had to put Jamie in his place, you know let him know.., you know.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:13 PM (EST) 14. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Brandon trying to convince Gary to keep the thre of them together and vote off BJ. Gary tells us why would he vote BJ off when he's one of the dtong ones.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:14 PM (EST) 15. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Brandon hopes that he, Gary and Ami will stay together, snd that Gary and Ami are pulling the wool over his eyes. Foreshadowing anyone? Nah. Too Obvious right?   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:15 PM (EST) 16. "Immunity pass-off." If Rafe gets to assign immunity before leaving Yaxha's TC, want to bet he gives to Amy just to keep a (perceived) weakened player on their team?   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:20 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Immunity pass-off." Yeah, I would to do that if I were Rafe Judd is urinated off that someone drank a beer that didn't belong to them.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:19 PM (EST) 17. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Yea, Judd is getting drunk. He's got no worries at all about tonight's TC because they all need him too much.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:21 PM (EST) 19. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Judd feels that he deserves an extra beer if he took one, becuase they wouldn't be drinking them if it weren't for him. He tells them they can all kiss his a$$ and he hopes they enjoyed their hot dogs and hamburgers because of him.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:23 PM (EST) 20. "RE: S11 - EP6 East Coast Update Thread" Judd is getting irrate at TC going on and on about winning and them celebrating if they want to. He loves everyone but Margret on the tribe.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:25 PM (EST) 21. "The Judd Hour" Its not a TC. Judd has taken over and is making an a$$ of himself big time. Jeff doesn't even know what to do or say.   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:27 PM (EST) 22. "RE: The Judd Hour" I am LOLing BIG TIME! Jiffy was trying talk and Judd just kept interrupting. HEHEHEHEHEHE!   Top

mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:28 PM (EST) 23. "RE: The Judd Hour" It's not that he doesn't know what to say. Judd keeps interrupting him.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:31 PM (EST) 26. "I wanted to present the official Judd 'Man!' Meter..." ...but the first time I turned it on, it overloaded.   Top

greenmonstah 10761 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:38 PM (EST) 31. "RE: I wanted to present the official Judd 'Man!' Meter..." Reminds me a bit of that Hulk angry guy from The Apprentice. Chris? Was that his name?   Top

Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 10-20-05, 09:02 PM (EST) 40. "RE: I wanted to present the official Judd 'Man!' Meter..." Chris was fantastic, loved that guy. He's like Judd, but shorter and less competent.   Top

moonbaby 17120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:48 PM (EST) 34. "Judd needs" a heapin' helpin' of STFU. Man.   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:58 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Judd needs" Is it possible to hide a heapin' helpin' of STFU in a beer?   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 09:05 PM (EST) 41. "RE: Judd needs" Nah, because beer neutralizes STFU   Top

Wallflower66 2446 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 10-20-05, 09:52 PM (EST) 46. "RE: Judd needs" Amen to that. Judd: "I am a good sportsmanship!" WTH?   Top

Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 10-20-05, 09:00 PM (EST) 39. "RE: The Judd Hour" I still can't figure out if Judd is a loud-mouthed baffoon or simply playing the same (the wink to Jamie confused the hell out of me when he got Marg to say something idiotic again). However, keeping Judd can only be good. No way he wins an endurance challenge but he wins a chunk of the team ones.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-05, 12:29 PM (EST) 56. "RE: The Judd Hour" Judd is an obnoxious, boorish, loud-mouthed buffoon, but I suspect there is a bit of slyness in how he's overdoing it. I think he wants every one of them to be saying to themselves "Hey, I'm taking Judd to the Final 2 with me!" Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:28 PM (EST) 24. "Nakum TC votes" Judd votes Margret, Margret votes for Judd. Big surprise huh? Margret Judd Margret Margret Margret And Margret is voted out. Doesn't say anything as she leaves.   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:30 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Nakum TC votes" Yaxha comes into TC area. Rafe is the only one who gets to stay around for it (I missed that part?)   Top

Quiddity99 244 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-20-05, 08:32 PM (EST) 27. "*cries*" Man, what a let down that was. After Judd blew up at Tribal Council I was sure Lydia & Rafe would flip and join Marg & Cindy to vote out Judd. Instead they stay pat and Cindy's the one who flips. Nakum made a big mistake, the arguing will not go away until Judd is gone! And tonight was the best chance to get rid of him Now onto Yaxha...   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:36 PM (EST) 28. "Yaxha TC" BJ was just letting off some steam to Jamie. Everyone in the tribe loves Brian, he's such a good guy, and BJ thinks he's a good old boy. Jeff talks about Amy's injury. Rafe gets to give out II to someone. He writes someone's name down and then he has to leave.   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:37 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Yaxha TC" The envelope stays sealed until after the voting has been done!   Top

Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:42 PM (EST) 32. "Idiots!" And I mean the production staff. What would they have done if Yaxha voted out the immune player? Second place in the voting? Revote? Purple rock?   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:38 PM (EST) 30. "Yaxha votes" LAST EDITED ON 10-20-05 AT 08:39 PM (EST) They all have to vote before Jeff reads out who gets II. Brian votes BJ, BJ votes for Brian. BJ Brian Brian Brian Brian gets 4 votes. Unless his name is in envelope he's gone. Gary got the II.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 09:06 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Yaxha votes" This could've been really stupid. If Rafe had given immunity to Brian, BJ would've been voted out solely because of Brian's vote. Maybe they would have revoted but Jeff made no mention of that. Only the standard: "Once the votes are read, the decision is final". Now, did Rafe give immunity to Gary because he thought he was safe anyway (like John K in Vanuatu) or was it to give it to his old alliance buddy? If he did sense Gary was safe, he can start plotting a long term alliance with Steph, Gary and whoever is on Gary's side from old Nakum.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-26-05, 03:29 PM (EST) 61. "RE: Yaxha votes" I was thinking about this last night. Brian said on SurvivorLive that they never found out what would have happened if the person with the most votes was given the immunity. I thought maybe Jeff had told them before they voted and they didn't show it, but apparently not. But I think Bobby Jon would have had to leave. First of all, keeping the immunity secret the first time is just stupid if there's a chance you're going to have to vote all over again. Another thing is that the contestants theoretically are not supposed to vote in a bloc. They just always do, for strategic purposes. But, it could have happened that, say, Brian got two votes, someone else got two votes, and two other people got one vote apiece. In that scenario, if Brian had gotten the immunity, I can't see them having a revote. The other person with two votes would probably have had to leave. So, if the idea was that the person with the most votes excluding the immunized person would have to leave, Bobby Jon would have been booted if Rafe gave immunity to Brian. Which is ironic since that's what Brian was hoping for. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 10:26 PM (EST) 48. "RE: Yaxha votes" Smart pick by Rafe for II. He chose one of his former tribemates, so he didn't put a target on his back for being disloyal. And by picking the one who was obviously not at risk for being voted off, he avoids putting a target on his back by giving Danni, BJ, and Brandon a reason to be mad at him. | |   Top

alwaysintruble1 2878 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 08:43 PM (EST) 33. "Next Time" Amy confronts Gary about his football career. Nakum get a surprise visit from the other tribe.   Top

applejack93 288 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-20-05, 08:55 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Next Time" Nakum get a surprise visit from the other tribe. An early merge, perhaps?   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 08:59 PM (EST) 38. "RE: Next Time" I was thinking early merge too, surprise both teams with a merge. I believe Brownroach has done some spec about this? That would be so great to surprise them and everyone's kept the strong players thinking they had more time to dump them The stupider the establishment is, the smarter the rebels become. Establishment stupidity is the greatest spur to creativity in evolutionary history ~ Robert Anton Wilson   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 09:21 PM (EST) 43. "RE: Next Time" The only problem with that visit of Yaxha to Nakum being the merge is that players have made known their preference for the Yaxha campsite especially now that it has a pool. I know the producers think the ruins are the better campsite and could impose it but players have usually been given a choice.   Top

Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 09:27 PM (EST) 44. "RE: Next Time" You're right about the preference michel, but the producers want to keep showing those ruins to pound in the Mayan theme and I think Nakum will be the merge camp. SEG probably negotiated to lease that site for the duration before the game ever started. If the producers are "nice" they will move the pool and the players can only hope that Judd gets some alcohol in the future so they can all join in and accidentally drown the bastard.   Top

michel 10958 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-20-05, 09:36 PM (EST) 45. "RE: Next Time" Good one OFG, but anyone who has witnessed tonight's TC, will not believe that it was an accident.   Top

littletown 85 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-20-05, 10:06 PM (EST) 47. "RE: Next Time" I see an earlier merge because there were few previews shown tonight which makes me believe they didn't have much pre-merge action to put in the preview. Also, maybe they tell Yaxha they are merging and they can pick any three items and have them taken to Nakum. Of course they would pick the pool.   Top

Round Robin 2914 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 11:14 PM (EST) 49. "Judd the Butt" Whatever happens, I just hope if it's the merge that they take something they can brain Judd with. What a totally mean spirited butthole!   Top

Round Robin 2914 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 11:16 PM (EST) 50. "RE: Judd the Butt" An early merge would be no surprise here. That's one twist they haven't tried yet, so I think it's due.   Top

KimberA00 38 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-21-05, 08:44 AM (EST) 54. "RE: Next Time" In the previews though, it never showed anyone actually getting out of the boat. Maybe they are just there to pick up Nakum and take them back to regular camp. As for the pool, maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but wasn't the stipulation that they only get it for one day? They haven't shown the pool since then have they? Okay... I'll go back to sleep now.   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-22-05, 04:06 PM (EST) 59. "RE: Next Time" The pool was where Brandon and BJ were talking at the start of day 15, not in it by near the walkway to it.   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-24-05, 11:00 AM (EST) 60. "RE: Next Time" I distinctly remember Jeff saying after the reward challenge that Yaxha would have the pool for one day. Bridge for sale to highest bidder. Call 1-800-BRroach.   Top

okaychatt 2810 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 10-20-05, 11:47 PM (EST) 52. "RE: Next Time" <An early merge, perhaps? Oh please - don't let them mate. Judd Man of the Jungle should NEVER have the opportunity to reproduce any more than he already has. "Judd, Judd, Judd of the Jungle....." Everybody sing. Oh - you meant join the tribes into one. Never mind. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.   Top

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