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"Opinions on the first episode?"
I'm not feeling very impressed...

It had the same forced and fabricated feel of 'The Restaurant'...

I also find it hard to believe that the prize is worth anything but the salary. It's not as though the winner is going to be able to say that they were a real employee of Donald Trump after the year is up. Any interviewer is just going to say "Oh... so you won a game show, then... That's nice... Thanks for coming out. Next!"

I'll watch the next episode but I better see more than lemonade stands!

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 I found it interesting.... anotherkim 01-08-04 1
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? Lisapooh 01-08-04 2
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? magic_star 01-08-04 5
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? magic_star 01-08-04 3
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? TechNoir 01-08-04 4
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? tjstein 01-09-04 26
       Hair HyperTyper 01-12-04 72
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? northernlights 01-09-04 45
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? LeftPinky 01-08-04 6
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? DoodleBug 01-08-04 7
 some thoughts GTmike 01-09-04 8
 Interesting. I want to see more. CyberCooties 01-09-04 9
   RE: Interesting. I want to see mor... Sado 01-09-04 16
       RE: Interesting. I want to see mor... dajaki 01-09-04 47
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? inoohr 01-09-04 10
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? inoohr 01-09-04 11
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Sado 01-09-04 20
       RE: Opinions on the first episode? Sado 01-09-04 21
           RE: Opinions on the first episode? TechNoir 01-09-04 30
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? Timer 01-09-04 12
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? ... Sado 01-09-04 22
       RE: Opinions on the first episode? ... TechNoir 01-09-04 31
           RE: Opinions on the first episode? ... LeftPinky 01-09-04 40
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Lisapooh 01-09-04 41
       RE: Opinions on the first episode? dajaki 01-09-04 50
           RE: Opinions on the first episode? Kellar 01-10-04 68
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? kyngsladye 01-09-04 13
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Sado 01-09-04 25
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? TechNoir 01-09-04 33
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? Ahtumbreez 01-09-04 14
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Schnookie Palookie 01-09-04 52
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? GrendelsMom 01-09-04 15
   I had the same thoughts anotherkim 01-09-04 38
       RE: I had the same thoughts landruajm 01-09-04 49
           Fire is death. anotherkim 01-09-04 53
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? BriarRosie 01-09-04 17
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Sado 01-09-04 27
       RE: Opinions on the first episode? TechNoir 01-09-04 34
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? ... Sado 01-09-04 18
   To Blow or Not to Blow? Angelfood 01-10-04 67
       RE: To Blow or Not to Blow? RollDdice 01-16-04 75
 B-School Redux djandy 01-09-04 19
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? tjstein 01-09-04 23
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? SurvivorBlows 01-09-04 32
       RE: Opinions on the first episode? TechNoir 01-09-04 37
           RE: Opinions on the first episode? RollDdice 01-16-04 76
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? anotherkim 01-09-04 39
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? Schnookie Palookie 01-09-04 24
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? StarryLuna 01-09-04 36
   This show is gonna be a hit Wacko Jacko 01-09-04 43
       RE: This show is gonna be a hit volsfan 01-09-04 61
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? jkokoj 01-09-04 42
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? true 01-09-04 44
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Loree 01-09-04 55
 2 Thumbs Up weltek 01-09-04 46
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? landruajm 01-09-04 48
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? dajaki 01-09-04 51
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? tk72 01-09-04 54
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? sunnygrl46 01-09-04 56
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? leogirl_21 01-09-04 57
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? Silvergirl1 01-09-04 58
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? ValleyGirl 01-09-04 59
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? Estee 01-09-04 60
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Timer 01-09-04 62
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? flower 01-09-04 63
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? frisky 01-09-04 64
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? PepeLePew13 01-10-04 65
 Location, Location, Location djandy 01-10-04 66
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? bubbastan 01-11-04 69
 RE: Opinions on the first episode? jackandjill 01-11-04 70
   RE: Opinions on the first episode? Chrissy gal 01-11-04 71
       RE: Opinions on the first episode? jackandjill 01-12-04 73
           RE: Opinions on the first episode? sunnygrl46 01-13-04 74

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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "I found it interesting...."

very Survivoresque. It's amazing to me that no matter what the stakes, producers can find 16 people who are absolutely incapable of getting along with each other.

I was really turned off by the women kissing guys to sell lemonade. I realize that winning was the point, but it was just waaaaaay to prostitutish for women who are asking to be taken seriously in the business world.

Oh, and the chick that suggested Donald's Darlings as their team name? Is she on acid?

I didn't really warm up to any of the characters, but my attentions were spilt as they always are on any premiere night and there were just SO many people and bickerings to keep up with.

I can see me watching it longer than I did The Restaurant, which I loved the first two weeks and then grew bored with. This has a good hook and I imagine it will be interesting to see people pleading their cases. I also LOVE the fact that it's up to Trump and the other two. I was so afraid there would be some cheesy voting.

I won't cry if I miss it, but I'll watch it again.

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--what kind of serious, professional woman shows up for day one of this kind of thing in a strapless top?

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2. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
LAST EDITED ON 01-08-04 AT 10:46 PM (EST)

I didn't think the task was very fair. Clearly, chicks are going to make more money selling lemonade on the street than guys. That seems like a no-brainer.

The other thing that bothered me is how television-y the fake result was. They kept the insane guy because he's good for television. He did nothing and spent twenty minutes trying to get a guy to buy a cup of lemon water for $1,000?

Sorry, but even in my creative field, vision is one thing - and it's applauded - but what is it worth without results? That guy is just an idiot. I thought he was gonna kiss The Donald's ring. I think by week two he will announce he has The Boner for The Donald. Nauseating.

And I love how Trump says "I never show anyone my apartment. Just presidents and royalty. And of course everyone with a TV set as well."

I like crochety old dude though.

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5. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Keeping the insane guy bothered me too. I don't think that elimination is going to help the guys out at all. Now they're just going to be stuck with a guy who thinks he can sell lemonade for a thousand dollars and they've lost a smart guy. He clearly can't work with the rest of the group, so now they really only have six people.

I'm sure the women were happy when they saw him come back.

T-Mac hits the three! Magic Win! Magic Win!

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3. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
It was alright.

I'll certainly keep watching. I'm in it more to just see the business challenges though. I don't really care about the people. I can't wait to see more of them fired! lol

It should turn out to be a good show.

T-Mac hits the three! Magic Win! Magic Win!

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4. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I liked it. In spite of La Donald's hair.

I agree with Kim. It had that EPM bickery bitchy everybody trips over everybody else feeling. And the first couple of Survivor episodes are all confused and artificial feeling. I'm giving it a chance.

Icey babee, it's not about the money. Or La Donald. They are attention hos, plain and simple.


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26. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Yes, his hair sucked big time...he can afford a barber, right?

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72. "Hair"
I saw him on a morning talk show a while ago, I think it was The View, and Bawbawa Waawaa mentioned his hair in front of the audience. He was actually a good sport about it. He lifted up his "bangs" to reveal his hairline, even tugged on it, and swore it was really his hair. He could definitely use a better cut. The way he parts it makes it seem like a hair piece or a comb-over.
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45. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
>I liked it. In spite of La Donald's hair.

My sentiments exactly Tech. WTF? Can he not afford a personal stylist? Maybe we should write to Oprah and see if she'll do a makeover for him.

I didn't love the show but I didn't dislike it either. I laughed at the comments that others have mentioned about Trump not showing his apartment to many people, and the guy who told him to let him finish. Oops.



Tech ~ you're my hero.

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6. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Final opinion is on hold. Like Survivor, it takes a couple of weeks to really like/dislike most of the contestants. Editing can so easily change you opinio from week to week. Sam could be the "Kathy" of the Apprentice (or not).

I got a couple of chuckles out of the episode, but agree with Pooh that it's a no-brainer the chicks win an on the street lemonade sale...

Jury is still in the board room...

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7. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I was entertained, and ultimately, that's what it is all about for me. Get my interest and I'll watch. I'll give it a few more weeks.

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8. "some thoughts"
It was kinda interesting. I do agree that the first show seemed kinda shallow. Also, I couldn't get past the fact that Donald looked like he had stripes in his hair and the fact that he kept yelling when talking to the group.

The show felt like Real World meets Road Rules meets Survivor.

I'll admit it, the women on the show are really really good looking and it is what will keep me watching if the plot gets mundane.

I find some humor in the fact that a network will mention a rival network's most popular show. I know it helps NBC, but it is funny to hear them mention Survivor in a good light.

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9. "Interesting. I want to see more."
LAST EDITED ON 01-09-04 AT 01:14 AM (EST)

The idea for the show is a good one. As a young business person, who wouldn't want to have a few conversations with the man who was billions in debt. That means Trump not only had to pay off his debt but also make enough above that to remain in business. That's a huge return and an almost insurmountable task.

The contestants bother me. Being cocky and over confident will never replace intelligence, level headedness and good judgement. They are allowing themselves to give in to their emotions, and they look like fools/children. They don't want to work together, they only want to try to out perform their team mates.... they think it's acceptable, encouraged and not noticed.

They are paying no attention to Caroline/George and their behavior during their task. Her face said it all when the guy who got eliminated was literally running after the cyclist trying to get him to buy some lemonade. If this guy was selling pharmaceuticals, would he be running after the chemotherapy patient? No self control and very vulgar behavior.

The task was actually a good choice and fairly difficult. The women even pulled it off at $5 a shot, unbelievable. The men may have won at $1 a shot at a better location. I think the patrons of the women were more interested in camera time, getting a kiss, and satisfying their curiosity. The men could have used their sex appeal as well to sell, but it never occurred to them to bleed a different market. Sex doesn't always sell, and I'm hope Trump has a task to prove that.

I can't stand a kiss ass. I wonder how Trump feels about that.



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16. "RE: Interesting. I want to see more."
Everyone knows that kissing ass is as much a part of business as knowing your business. And you've got to kiss ass long enough to be in a position to bite it.
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47. "RE: Interesting. I want to see more."
Yeah, but there is kissing ass and then there is crawling in and making it a second home. Creepy little guy came across as a stalker (I know your parents, I know your whole history, I follow your limo from time to time) rather than as someone who wants to establish himself with The Donald and learn from him (I know you're the guy who makes Manhattan happen, I know you're brilliant, I know you can teach me more about business than anyone else out there).
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10. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Personally, I was very impressed with the first episode of this show. No, it was not exciting, like survivor, but it wasn't meant to be. Business is not exciting, it is about capitalism and 'making money'.
As a rule, my husband and I steer clear from reality shows, as they are either gross and disgusting (Ripleys) or 'soap opera' reality and focus on sex.
Where else would Trump have began, than the 'lemonade stand', the most basic capitalistic venture America has ever known.
We have been told that 'sex sells', and the women took the easy way out, at least for this challenge. But will it be so easy the next time?
The best part about this 'reality show' is that people are actually able to learn about capitalism and business on their television screens.
Reality in the public schools today, is that most children will only be taught enough to be the next 'meat packer', 'fast food worker', or 'bus driver'!
Goals 2000 and Workforce 2000 utilized in many states, prompted by dear old Hillary, has provided 'worker drones' to the workplace in the year 2004.
If your child isn't bright at 5 or 7, and if you don't have enough money or contribute to the right party in the U.S. in 2004, your child will likely be put at the 'end' of the class, due to 'workforce' needs. This is not just a democratic or republican issue, both parties seem to embrace the 'corporate demand for workers'. Oregon is now practicing this discrimination against smart children, research the CIM card and Goals 2000.
Back to Mr. Trump and his show. So what if he is showing off his splendor, if he is showing youth about capitalism. They certainly won't learn it in public schools, as those of us in our 40's did!
My husband is the son of 'upper corporate management, president of a profit corp, director of a non-profit.
I am the daughter of a multiple business owner, president of a non-profit, secretary of a for profit corp.
We applaud Mr. Trump for his reality show, in that it is to teach the masses about 'capitalism'. So what if he makes money. Isn't that the 'root cause'? Isn't that how Mr. Trump gained his fame?
Our society has forgotten all about capitalism, in their
'push' to save the whales, save the slugs, save the cockroaches and save the ozone, and eliminate the smokers.
Does society really follow the media as well as the media claims? I mean, do all of you really believe the garbage that Tom Brokaw or Peter Jennings tell you as gospel? Don't you know how to research? We are on the internet, the most wonderful and useful research tool given to this world. And yet most people buy and chew up what the Alphabet Media Groups want to give you.
Again, Thank you Mr. Trump, for showing reality as it really is!
Teach them Capitalism 101, and then expound on it, and hopefully we will have business leaders in the next 20 years, and not whiney babies that expect someone to do it for them.
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11. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
One more point:
This show utilized many thousands of contestants interviews, to bring these people to us. Is that frightening or what?
Either people with Business degrees do not want to be on television, or we don't have nearly enough people wanting to study business in school! Either option is scarey!
I am horrified by the dress code of most of the participants. Cleavage does not equal capitalism, it merely says that the person is willing to have sex.
The new 'business casual' amongst the women left me cold as well. That or the 'selling sex' ideals of some of the participants.
I am a woman. My daughter attends law school, and she knows how to dress. Suits, pants and or skirt, some color, always highlighted in the blouse, and some personal touch, shows flair w/business.
The women on this show have seem to have chosen to discredit their intelligence and knowledge, by selling sex in their attire.
A woman could achieve so much more in a finely crafted suit, that fits her properly, than any lacy thing, low neckline etc.
Just my opinion.
Denise
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20. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
"Our society has forgotten all about capitalism, in their
'push' to save the whales, save the slugs, save the cockroaches and save the ozone, and eliminate the smokers. "

Are you high? Avarice are very alive and kicking. And the environment is integrally tied to business. Some very intelligent businessmen are starting to also figure that out. I guess when you live with stink you can't smell yourself.

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21. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
How's this for a capitalist adventure?

Find a virus to sterilize humans and then charge them to create diverse perfect children.

Think about how many problems that would solve. Think of the money and power to have the entire world by the short hairs. I’m a real visionary - almost as bad as Hitler. Next to me simple avarice doesn’t sound so scary.

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30. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
yeah, yeah, welcome

And this is relevant how?

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12. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I was looking forward to this program, and I wasn't disappointed. It was exactly what I expected. Sixteen very bright people put into a situation where every ounce of their stupidity comes to the fore.

I'm going to take a contrary opinion here. I think the guy who tried to sell a glass of lemonade for $1000 was the ONLY one who was thinking outside the box. He did the only thing possible to even give them a shot at beating the girls.

I can't believe one of those guys didn't pull everyone aside and say, "listen, guys, we can't beat the girls because all they have to do is hike up their skirs, kiss the boys and pass out their phone numbers to get $5 or even $10 for a glass of lemonade. We're going to have to come up with some pretty creative ways to beat that competition. So while were getting materials to make the damn stuff lets all think like crazy to come up with a way to make some real big bucks or one of us is going home."

So what do they do? They go down to the fish markets and to sell juice to stinky stiffs. I loved it.

Oh yeah, Donald's apartment was an ostentatious, garish, dump. This guy has got the world's biggest ego--hence his name all over the place.

Can't wait till next week.

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22. "RE: Opinions on the first episode? DT appartment"
I so agree about Trump's suite.

Trump intimidates with the ostentatious (bad but effective taste) suite to plant the psychological seeds of success and dominance in his opponent’s head.

I’d rather live poor in a great place than rich in a sewer infested gold plated rat hole.

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31. "RE: Opinions on the first episode? DT appartment"
Trump intimidates with the ostentatious (bad but effective taste) suite to plant the psychological seeds of success and dominance in his opponent’s head.

No, he just has really really bad taste.

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40. "RE: Opinions on the first episode? DT appartment"
No, he just has really really bad taste.
you only need to look at his hair to see that!


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41. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I work in advertising - it's my job to think outside the box and come up with creative ideas. However, they have to be tangible and realistic.

Ultimately, it's about moving product - nothing else matters. He didn't move any product and he wasted twenty minutes. Maybe if he assessed the situation better, he could have realized after say five minutes that it wasn't going to happen. Thinking outside the box doesn't mean keeping your head in the clouds.

I agree the men needed to do something more proactive - they had to realize they weren't going to outsell the women. There were other things they could have done - called local radio or tv stations to promote themselves (hey -we're on a Trump show!) gone to a gay neighborhood set up by a pretzel stand - they didn't do anything to help themselves. Sam included.

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50. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I agree that Sam was the only one thinking outside the box and trying other sales tactics. I also agree that he was trying to accomplish goals that were unrealistic and spending way too much time on them. He said that Donald Trump could sell a $1000 cup of lemonade. Problem is, he's not Donald Trump.
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68. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
LAST EDITED ON 01-10-04 AT 10:47 PM (EST)

Sam could have spent twenty minutes selling those dame “dime & nickel” cups of lemonade and they would still have been bitched slap by the girls at the end of the day. The end results speak for themselves; the girls won hands down because the men decide to grind it out, one-cup at a time. Still, twenty-twenty vision!

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13. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I didn't like the Restaurant but I liked the Apprentice. I'm hooked.

I think the women were totally inappropriately dressed. I cracked up when Tammy stated that she didn't need to get along with anyone except Donald. Who the hell wants to hire a President that cannot get along with others? I wouldn't. I would hope that my President had good communication skills.


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25. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Agreed. Tammy should go home and play with herself.
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33. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Apparently Tammy failed to pay attention to La Donald's assistant (whose name escapes me). She was low key and got along with everybody. Not a bad role model for all of these dweebs.
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14. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I watched the first 20 minutes of it and then looked at the DH and said "this is not worth missing CSI for". Won't be back unless CSI happens to be a rerun.

Boring.

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52. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Hey Tummy. Next week, it starts in its regular time slot of Wednesdays so you won't have to miss CSI


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15. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I could tell at once by the editing and music that this was a Burnett show; it had his fingerprints all over (to the point where I kept dusting off my screen).

What's missing from here (and what in contrast makes Survivor so attractive) is the strategic element between contestants. I like the back-stabbing, alliances, etc. of Survivor, but since The Donald is the only one with a vote, we get smarmy sucking up instead.

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I agree with Pooh, though; I do like the crotchety old dude

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38. "I had the same thoughts"

All along I kept thinking, "This is so Survivor." But in a good way.

While Trump is the only one with the vote, I thought some of the questions were masterful. The players may not get to snuff a flame, but I like the fact that they will be able to make their comments about each other in a more uninhibited fashion AND that Trump will call them on their B.S. They'll have to back up their comments. Much more interesting than kiss-up tribal councils.

Miscellaneous Ramblings
--I laughed out loud when he told the guy that it was a bad, bad idea to interrupt the person that was able to fire him.

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49. "RE: I had the same thoughts"
I was sorta hoping that they'd set the bootee on fire, saying "Fire is death."

Now that would be entertainment.

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53. "Fire is death."
I think you're on to something here, honey. If people will subject themselves to the dreck that is Fear Factor or Dog Eat Dog, then this would be a breeze.

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--in fact I have some coworkers that I'd like to nominate for the first few rounds of tribal councils

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17. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
The contestants were true blue DAWs. They're perfect for this medium. Now, on to what I zoned in on...

...The Donald's museum.....er....apartment. Was anyone else
turned off by the coldness of the place? It was too gaudy for
me, and I felt that velvet ropes around the furniture would not have been out of place there.

I did catch the line, "Nobody sees it, only presidents, royalty..." And I immediately thought, "...now every yahoo with a TV..."

And how DAW was Donald's girlfriend? I cringed when the ladies said how lucky she was, "Isn't *he* lucky, too?" What an ego.
She's luckier than most, and she should know it.

Speaking of cringing, I flinched when Jason told Donald, "Let me finish!" Yikes, that's the one-way ticket to *not* getting the job. Sheesh.

I haven't found a sympathetic personality on that show yet.

Lori


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27. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I thought the same thing about his apartment. But I also understood that Trump uses it to intimidate and to plant the psychological seeds of success and dominance in his opponent’s head.

Yes there were some amusing things said.

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34. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
to intimidate and to plant the psychological seeds of success and dominance in his opponent’s head

Hrm, the EXACT SAME WORDS ... creepy

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18. "RE: Opinions on the first episode? - IceCat"
Job or Blow Job? That is the question. You will only see what you are looking for. I got lots of amusing insight from this.

Trump intimidates with the ostentatious (bad but effective taste) suite to plant the psychological seeds of success and dominance in his opponent’s head.

$ex $ell$ BIG TIME! But don’t depend on T&A alone for success, even if you just selling T&A. Women are bitche$. But you gotta love em.

Troy – great motivator. Fair leadership traits. Is easily misled by trust. When Trump asked, “Would you trust him with your bank account?” The correct answer was – “No, I never trust anyone with my money”. He also simply trusted the location without question. Product/Customers/Delivery. Where in NYC are there thirsty rich pedestrians? Wall Street? Time Square?

I PREDICT the winner to be Kristi – one of the girls that took control, got something done, and sold the old fashioned way – with a pretty $mile.

Still I'm not sure if I will watch to the end. I think I'm already there. I might stop back just to see if I'm right.

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67. "To Blow or Not to Blow? "
>Job or Blow Job? That >is the question. You
>will only see what you >are looking for. I
>got lots of amusing insight >from this.

You think we'll see a BJ on the show? Cool.
To the Trumpster? From a girl or guy?

>Trump intimidates with the ostentatious (bad
>but effective taste) suite to plant the psychological seeds of >success and dominance in his >opponent’s head.

Hey, third time's a charm!!!

>Women are >bitche$. But you gotta >love em.

No you don't! You can always go gay...

Why do people never admit that possibility??
Unless you ARE a woman... lesbian, in which case, I would suggest you consider going straight...

>Still I'm not sure if I
>will watch to the end.
> I think I'm already >there.

I think so too.

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Hi everyone, my name is Angelfood, and I'm a Bitche$.
Hi Angelfood.
I didn't even realize my full potential. Wow.

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75. "RE: To Blow or Not to Blow? "
>Trump intimidates with the ostentatious (bad
>but effective taste) suite to plant the psychological seeds of >success and dominance in his >opponent’s head.

Is this the "phrase that pays"? Am I the 69th caller? What do I win?


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19. "B-School Redux"
LAST EDITED ON 01-10-04 AT 01:17 PM (EST)

As an MBA grad, this reminded me very much of B-School. You have the projects designed to build teams but instead dissolve into ego-driven shouting matches, blaming, backbiting, and jealousy. And then you have the different team "types".

The ones who get by on their looks and/or charm: the sex sells lemonade girls who dress like sluts, and Troy the charmer.

The lazy one who doesn't think they need to work because they'll get the same grade/reward as the rest of the team whether they work or not: Tammy Lee.

The obnoxious know-it-all who has delusions of grandeur: Sam.

The busy-body who is more interested in team dynamics and team ettiquette than they are in the team project: Omarosa.

The competent ones who just roll up their sleeves and do the work without worrying who gets the credit: Kristi, Amy, and Kwame.

I was very entertained because it brought back a lot of memories. It will be interesting to see who The Donald will keep. He seems to like the dynamic risk-takers, but if the losing leader nominates 2 people they dislike to be up for firing and the same person gets nominated over and over, I think eventually they will be fired. I am also curious to see how he treats the women. As a notorious womanizer, I wonder what criteria he will use to judge the women. I can see him give the pretty ones a pass, while being overly critical of the others. I will definitely be watching.

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Could Trump's girlfriend be any more shallow fishing for compliments like that? On second thought, she and The Donald are a perfect match.

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23. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I really liked this show. I'm actually surprised at how well I liked it...but maybe it was just low blood sugar or something.

Women vs. Men: I loved it during Survivor and loved it here.

Company names: Okay, the men eked out a really lame name. And the OskaloosaRosa "political consultant" who suggested Donald's Darlings? Um sweetie, put down the champagne, you've had too much. Just because Clinton worked that way doesn't mean you have to stoop to that level.

Trump's insiders: I love this! It's like having a mole in each group. I don't know if Burnett had Trump review any tapes of the day before he makes his decision or not. I'd guess not. This is an excellent way for him to find out what happened from an objective point of view. Plus, the contestants can do all the sucking up and scheming they want and Trump can get the straight answers from his people.

Overall, it's entertaining. But what bothered me the most was the lack of professional attire on the women. They all look like they have jobs as perfume sprayers in Nordstrom's or something. Get it together, ladies. Stilettos, low cut tops and tight short skirts are not going to get you taken seriously.


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32. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
>And the OskaloosaRosa "political consultant"
>who suggested Donald's Darlings? Um
>sweetie, put down the champagne,
>you've had too much. Just
>because Clinton worked that way
>doesn't mean you have to
>stoop to that level.

Was it me, or was this woman always running around in the shortest skirts?

Everytime I saw her in a new outfit "what a surprise that she worked for the Clinton White House..." popped into my head

-SB

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37. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Actually the skirt didn't do it for me because you see a lot of that around here, but the Donald's Darlings sure did ... oh yeah, Bill would have loved that.
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76. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Did you see Omarosa in the outside interview cutaway? She shows her midriff and a spot that looks like a stip of adhesive tape had been ripped off.

Was it a birth control patch? A gaffer's tape hair removal incident? The mark of The Donald?


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39. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"

My mouth fell open. And she was serious. She seemed surprised when they thought it was a bit much. WTF?

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--and the chick in the green satiny top with her bra straps showing? Does she own a mirror?

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24. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I watched it and will watch it again. Absolutely hated the kiss-a$$ guy. I realize you have to do some butt kissing in business but he was so blatant and pathetic.

Come on Donald! Spend some of that money of yours and trim your eyebrows!!


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36. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Everyone's pretty much commented on all the same things I thought about it too. I really liked the first episode, although Donald either needs a new toupee or a good barber. I wasn't surprised he fired the one he did, I was sure that guy was gone when they showed him chasing down the guy on a bicycle. I'll keep watching.


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43. "This show is gonna be a hit"
LAST EDITED ON 01-09-04 AT 11:14 AM (EST)

Only thing I wondered about is they got 200,000 resumes and these were the best 16 they could come up with?

I could of done better than these people. A lot of business is politics. These people already failed. They made enemies with each other. The one girl says she don't care what the others think of her - she is clueless. The one guy telling Trump to let him finish - stupid. The insane guy standing up and yelling at Trump - insane. People bickering with each other -idiotic.

After a couple weeks it will be easy to tell who the winner is. Personally my early favorite is the african american guy. He seemed to understand business politics better than the others.

These contestents got to realize this is a job interview not a game. Also, although business is always a team don't get caught up on the bad things others are doing - especially this early.

I loved the first episode. Other will too. This will be a big big hit.

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61. "RE: This show is gonna be a hit"
Well, I don't understand how you can say "Only thing I wondered about is they got 200,000 resumes and these were the best 16 they could come up with?"

When they were being introduced I was amazed how well educated they were. Also, most of them have their own business. Now granted, they may not be doing well in their businesses and that is why they are in this show...butt, I think they put more educated and more business owners than I thought they would.

You must keep in mind that these business people are very competitive and competitiveness tends to allow us to do funny things!

I am excited about the show and will continue to watch!


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42. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I will give the show a chance. I liked the premise of the show and thought Donald's cohorts were great. Hubby did not like it at all and thought it seemed a little too staged.

I think the right guy left last night. Sam was over the top but hopely he will stop with bowing (like he is talking to the Godfather and/or Pope). I know some ass kissing of the Trumpster may be necessary but blatant ass kissing just leaves your face smelling like ass.


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44. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Like The Restaurant, this show is pretty rigged. That's ok, cause it's not a real contest. The people with the best TV presence, the ones who cause friction, will remain, while boring people, like David, will be fired.

Donald makes the final decisions, but Burnett certainly guides him as to who should be kept to make for better TV. Otherwise, Sam would have been out.

Last nights premier was entertaing. Just laughing at Trump's hair, and his hideous home, were enough to keep me laughing.

The first task was lame, IMO, and heavily favored the women. They were unorganized and unprofessional, and while they may chosen a better location, I don't think that's what made them more successful.

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55. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
>
>Last nights premier was entertaing.
>Just laughing at Trump's hair,
>and his hideous home, were
>enough to keep me laughing.
>


I was watching partly for this comedy. Trump must enjoy people laughing at his hair. It's the only explanation. Maybe he figures he will distract people that way and win. I can only imagine what his hair looks like in a sauna.

The guy that left lastnight had the highest IQ of all 16. But most of them have IQs of about 200. So I guess that was important in casting. Donald obviously is more interested in ratings than anything. It was the only reason to keep Sam. But I admit the guy that was booted did annoy me the way he was running people down to try and get them to buy lemonade. I would never buy anything from someone that chased me down the street.

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46. "2 Thumbs Up "
I really enjoyed the show.

LIKES
The diverse contestant base
The elimination method
The first challenge

DISLIKES
The "rewards" I don't give a rats a** if the girls get to see Donald's suite or not.


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48. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
This crap is da bomb. I'm hooked.

I'd hire Sam in a heartbeat. Just for the sheer joy of torturing him.

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51. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Two of my favorite parts of last night's ep.

1. Contestants coming off the elevator and self-consciously stumbling over their words when announcing why they were there. There wasn't one person who entered with total confidence, stepped up to the reception desk and stated, "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya and I have an appointment with Mr. Trump."

2. Donald's special fountain. This was a riot! "Girls, this is my posh yet garishly gilded high-riseapartment of mystery. Now look what happens when I flip this wall switch." Water bubbles up to the sounds of "Oooh"s and "Aaah"s from the female hopefuls. I take it that most of them have never lived in an apartment with running water that is strictly decorative. BTW, I think I saw that exact same fountain at Wal-Mart selling for $29.95.

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54. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I liked the show, thought it was entertaining. As I was watching the intros of the contestants. I was thinking "do these guys really need this job." They seem to have good carreers already. One thing I've learned watching the first episode is that these people reallt shouldn't interupt the Trump while he's talking. He kinda put that dude in his place.


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56. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
What about when the "girls" were at his home & they were talking to his girlfriend and one girl asked "who cleans this big place?" or something like that. Trump should have burst in at that very minute & said get out, if you are that stupid, get out! I couldn't get over their outfits!!!
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57. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I really liked the first episode. I thought that it was interesting! I have a feeling that we will be seeing a lot of cat fights and the claws will come out for sure. The women seem to be bickering more than needed and some men seem to be too subtle and cool to even be noticed.
All I know is that I don't really like the woman who suggested that they call their teamn "Donald's Darlings", I think her name was Omarosa or something?!?!? She is very very annoying. Also, the Chinese/Korean looking woman who took a lunch break was annoying.
As for the guys, I didn't like Sam or the guy that got fired. Troy seems cool. Hehehe, what about the guy who interrupted Donald while he was talking? That was brave.
I can't wait to see how the rest of the show unfolds. Oh, and the preview for next week was harsh when Donald tells someone they are fired...the way that he said it was brutal....ouch!

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58. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"

I liked it and so did DH, a tough critic. We will give it a chance, although next week it will be on when he wants to see Star Trek.

*rushes off to find a way to hook up the extra television set*

I LOL'd at Donald's Trump Ice bottled water. Apparently he thinks his image (bad haircut and bushy eyebrows) sells product.

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59. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
It was just okay. What may have made it a better view, would have been to see Mark "burn it" or Jiffy "quick lube" walk down the staircase wearing an "I Love Donald" t-shirt rather than The Donald's girlfriend.

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60. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Somewhere around the forty-five minute mark, I had a revelation. These weren't gender-divided groups of successful businesspeople. They were actually a few genuine money-making wonders thrown in among a crowd of actors whose last experience with setting up any sort of enterprise _was_ a lemonade stand.

And every week, Donald was going to be confronted with one group to fire someone from, and the question would become 'Does he know?' Did he figure out MB pulled a twist on him? Could he fire the actors and keep the real wheelers and dealers on the team? Could the businesspeople spot the fakes among them and learn to work around them? And in the end, would the actual chosen apprentice say 'Sorry, Mr. Trump, but my name is actually Matt Kennedy Gould, and Mark Burnett's promised me a million dollars if I could fool you into thinking I was the real thing. Serves you right for not watching enough television.'

As always, I'm very probably wrong. But this time, I'm not sure my chances of being wrong are one hundred percent...

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62. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
When the Dr. with two degrees tried to run down the bicyclist to sell him a cup of lemonade, jumping up and down, waving his silly sign, I practically danced with glee! Two degrees! So smart, and yet so naive. "Um, selling isn't my forte." Did he do any planning?

Let the infighting begin! They all said something bad about Sam. How do you think that's going to play out? Will Sam get wise and change tactics, or will he keep on charging? Should be interesting back at the digs.

Just like in Survivor the first week is a feeling out episode. No one really had any idea what to expect, and now that they do someone with half a brain should start devising a winning strategy--that goes for both teams.

I loved the boardroom. Trump lays it on the line and the little fishies are seriously groping for their lives! These guppies are going to start turning on each other like cats on liver. Then, when they get back to the "house" all hell is gonna break loose.

I wish they would have mixed the men and women, it might have given it a better flavor, but we'll see how this works out. I just hope they dont change the stupid rules in the middle of the game like they do on Survivor (especially the last one, which let all the losers back in--a travesty--the worst survivor yet--but I'm glad Sandra won) and just let these people start eating their own. They've got a good premise--just let it play out.

I'm sure at some point they'll merge and it will become an individual sort of challenge, man against man against woman against woman.

This beats CSI hands down, that show is getting old, but they are switching time slots. Now, I'll have to catch 60 minues 2 in the re-runs. I'm glad they didn't put it up against West Wing, that would have been a tough one.

I'm looking for a woman to get the axe next week.

Two questions: 1. How much is Trump being paid for his part in the show? 2. Why would successful people, and some of these contestants are already millionaires, want to go through all this? Wouldn't this be a downgrade in pay?

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63. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I loved it!! The scenes of NYC are awesome! I loved how the women used their sex appeal to sell their product, and how the guys were frustrated! It was funny watching the women flirting to get that product sold knowing they probably didn't get ahead in real life that way.(or did they?) They seem very serious minded and goal oriented, but it worked and they won, bottom line is success by any means!!!
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64. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Yeah, I liked it. It caters to one of my nearest and dearest fantasies: who hasn't wanted to vote out the lazy, unproductive coworker?

I'll watch it. It'll fill the void until ASS gets underway.


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65. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Oh I think it's somewhat fixed (especially with someone of The Donald's connections making sure things go the way HE wants it), but I was entertained by the show, which is the bottom line. I had a good laugh at how The Donald talked to the contestants, at his hair, his assistants, and the contestants themselves squabbling with each other and trying to work together.

I think this show has some promise because of the entertainment factor and its similarity to Survivor (which we all know is one of the top-rated shows around), plus we all can relate to having a demanding boss and trying to stay on our toes to impress him. I know I've had more than a couple of bosses who were constantly barking out orders and telling me to move my ass faster.

Considering that it's Mark Burnett who's the producer, I'm expecting to see more interesting challenges in the weeks to come. I remember in some Survivor shows, the early challenges were a little ho-hum then got more interesting.



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66. "Location, Location, Location"
I happened to re-watch part of The Apprentice before I erased it off the PVR, and I noticed when Trump was talking about location he said this:

I'd rather have a smart, talented guy be in charge of a bad location (picture of Troy), than an idiot in charge of a great location (picture of Sam).

Foreshadowing of things to come? (I hope)

djandy

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69. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I liked the concept, and it could provide for an interesting show, but they need to remove some of the padding. For example, did we really need to see the final "boot" decision in three parts? What should have been the most exciting element of the show just dragged on and on. What really was the point of having the three potential "firees" get together and have a discussion? Like one of them was really going to say, "Yep, I'm the bigest loser here, please let me be the first to get canned."

Other random observations:
-Donald Trump has the WORST.COMB-OVER.EVER.
-Trumpster has the MOST.TACKY.APARTMENT.EVER. - just goes to show, money can't buy taste....
-Sam is one small tick away from a total psychotic break
-Don't you just love the cranky old guy??? If they are going to extend any part of this show, I think we need to hear more from the gruff old dude, every comment out of his mouth was just priceless. If there were writers in tvland who could come up with dialog like this, we wouldn't need reality/unscripted tv.

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70. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I thought it was entertaining and I'll be sure to watch it each week.

I have to admit, though, one of the reasons I watched Survivor religiously was because of these boards. I loved lurking and reading who everyone thought would get his or her torch snuffed.

If this forum really gets cooking, I'll be more apt to watch Trump and his co-horts ridicule the contestants.

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71. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Welcome jackandjill. Since you have been lurking for a while, I guess welcome isn't exactly right, but I don't know what else to say! I'm glad you decided to join in the fun!

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73. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
Thanks Chrissy!
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74. "RE: Opinions on the first episode?"
I forgot about this.....what about when the three were waiting to see who was going to get fired & the guy started crawling around on the floor! I was hoping "The Donald" would have opened the door at that very moment. I wished they would have shown the receptionist face as he was crawling around in front of her.
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