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"Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?"
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"Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
This episode poses alot of unanswered questions(finally a week we can sink our teeth into!). At the crux of the problem is the info that CMC posted regarding a kidnapping/POW situation where a male is kidnapped. CMC has been very accurate with their spoiling and is known to have had a credible source. They accurately predicted Koror listening in on the Ulong TC, and then getting to grant the one most likely to be voted out, immunity. I have seen speculation regarding this kidnapping info in almost every thread pertaining to this week. This is a thread devoted to speculating every possible outcome for this week.If CMC has indeed spoiled that a kidnapping/POW situation will occur then I think that it must occur in this episode. Let's just say for the sake of argument that it's BJ that does get taken as a POW to Koror. That would leave 2 Ulongs to go to TC. When they arrive at TC, Jiffy says, well, as there are only 2 of you here, and you cannot vote for yourself, then there will be a tie. So, instead of voting, we will have a special challenge to determine who stays and who goes. As you know, fire is life here, so the challenge will be, the first one to get fire will remain, and the other will leave immediately. And so the fire challenge takes place between Steph and Ibe and Steph wins, and goes back to camp alone, and is absorbed by Koror the next day. If the Kidnapping were to occur next ep, Neandrathal Man, then the three Ulongers would go to TC this ep, and vote off a member in the traditional way, leaving 2 to go back to camp. If the kidnapping were to occur next week, then that would leave Steph all alone. Would the IC be tribal then, and be a fire building challenge, where Steph would win, and then send Koror to TC where they would proceed to vote off BJ. If it is tribal, and Steph wins, then Ulong would win one IC. I don't see this happening. I think in order for there to be a special fire building challenge, that it must occur in this episode. We can deduce that the fire building challenge most definately will occur as Mersaydeez has given us this info, and her record of spoiling the show, speaks for itself. To me, the kidnapping makes more sense to occur in this episode, if it is going to occur at all.
 
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03-28-05, 01:01 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
Re: Above Scenario. Do you think EPMB would at least allow BJ to be granted immunity? After all, Ibe received a surprise immunity! Then, viewers might be led to believe Steph is vulnerable (I don't think she is,but editing played-up her supposed indecision in Ep6).
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03-28-05, 01:17 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
I agree BR and I also think the shot of the three Ulong on beach looking upset is after the SOS challenge and BJ is there for that challenge as well. Even if it post IC, BJ would be back with the Ulong for that challenge.
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10. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
the scenario of the kidnapping makes no sense to me if BJ participates with Ulong both for the RC & IC, then also attends TC and is vulnerable.Cat, condolences for your moniter! LOL! But, you are right. I think that we can conclude that BJ will not be kidnapped at all if he is present in the RC/IC/TC. That will not happen. I also agree that there is vidcap evidence of BJ participating in the RC, and going to the IC this week. We know that the IC is tribal. I believe he will indeed compete in both challenges. Therefore, if a POW is taken, imo, it will happen for the IC challenge winner... So, the most likely time for the POW to be taken then is after the IC is finished....and then BJ would not be present at the TC, and thus set the stage for the fire-building challenge to occur between Steph and Ibe.
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03-28-05, 01:49 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
Awwww FP, thank you for the condolences! It's been a tough weekend for me with NO Survivor info, lol. Thought maybe I'd die, but I survived.Anyway, why would MB do a kidnapping after the IC? Is this a joint team/individual challenge? Koror wins the team IC, BJ wins the individual IC, and Koror gets not only team immunity but the capture of Ulong's biggest threat? If that were the case I would think BJ then becomes a Koror, otherwise it again makes no sense to me. That leaves Ibe for the boot Thursday, Steph left alone for a night, then absorbed into Koror the next day. No merge, BJ is already there, Steph is last arrival and Koror member. Hmmmmm. I guess in a season when they seem to be trying everything they can to shake things up, that scenario is at least possible.  Please call me Cat!!
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13. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
Cat, why would MB do a kidnapping after the IC?Think of it as taking a POW....after a battle, there are casualties....taking a POW could be considered a casualty. Koror would win the tribal challenge, but I have no idea what you mean by, BJ wins the individual immunity?....there would be no individual immunity if the POW scenario plays out. Instead, BJ would go with Koror back to their camp as a POW, then Steph and Ibe would go back to Ulong, then march off to tc where there would be a special fire challenge to determine the boot...no immunity involved for either one of them....get it? At least this is one scenario that's speculated.
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03-28-05, 02:15 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
"Koror would win the tribal challenge, but I have no idea what you mean by, BJ wins the individual immunity?...."Blame that spec on my puter 'issues', lol. I thought I remembered reading spec on Thursday that there was evidence of an individual II necklace sighting. I must be remembering wrong, lol.  I'm just plain out of the loop this week, reading like crazy trying to get back in before I have to make my picks. I get the POW thing, thanks for the explanation. I would think that would make BJ a permanent Koror though, do you agree? Maybe MB is trying to end the Solong suffering as quickly as possible? That would make the poor IC winless tribe over and done with this week, so that next week it's all Koror and we can finally get into the dynamics over there with full force. Please call me Cat!!
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03-28-05, 02:38 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
I'm trying my best to be useful but so far I'm just like James and keep missing the target. But what about this.......Part of the reward for the RC is the chance to kidnap an opposing player during IC. Koror wins the RC, gets the MREs, and the next day when they gather for the IC they get to "kidnap" one of their players but only get to keep them for the duration of that challenge. Koror chooses BJ, figuring he might be the biggest threat DURING the challenge. He is then FORCED to watch during the competition (that would fit with the new wording we are seeing for the weekly preview) and he is the one that has doubts about his teams ability to win. Of course Ulong loses, BJ is "freed" and returned to his team, the three of them return to camp, and the next day they go to TC where for whatever reason Ibe and Steph join together and vote BJ out. Since I have seen info in other places that after leaving the game, BJ was VERY upset about what happened to him, maybe this is it. This would still leave Neanderthal Man for the fire building challenge next week and Stephs destiny to spend a night alone all intact. It's been said all over the place that usually the best answer is the simplest one, and this is about as simple as I can imagine it and still have all the pieces fit together. So how about this one, is any of IT possible?
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03-28-05, 03:23 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-28-05 AT 03:25 PM (EST)"Ok, if the kidnapping is after IC, why would they pick BJ if they know Ibe is the weakest?" Emy, they'd pick the strongest member I think if they were choosing a permanent Koror. They would also choose the strongest member if they knew the TC would then come down to Steph & Ibe. I go back to the first episode alliance hint of Steph, Ian & Tom. Perhaps they figure Steph's chances are better against Ibe than they are against BJ? Oh, and Emy I don't envy your having to do the SOTS this week! Lol, you're gonna need that vacation!  Edited to add that what I just wrote about choosing BJ to save Steph makes no sense at all, why not just take Steph? Duh me! K, I've got no clue. Please call me Cat!!
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03-28-05, 03:58 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-28-05 AT 03:59 PM (EST)The reward for the RC is the MRE's (meals ready to eat). The military nature of the reward could easily include the option of choosing a POW from the other tribe to share in the reardw with Koror. A boat pulls up at the Ulong beach and says "Bobby Jon" come with me, you've been selected. BJ could then share the MRE's with Koror on their beach and be released back to his tribe later that evening or the next morning, so that BJ could still walk to the IC with his tribe and be voted out in EP7, so that the EP8 Neanderthal Firebuilding Challenge can still take place as desrcibed by Mersaydeez. 
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03-28-05, 05:42 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
In Pearl Islands Rupert was kidnapped after the IC. As I recall it had nothing to do with the RC and was simply an IC reward.
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03-28-05, 03:31 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Is There Anything" |
I was looking for this too, and I found what KB set forth in the Mersaydeez thread:
BJ/Ibe get "kidnapped" (Callmeecrazee Spoiler) in EP7 (the reward?),Ibe/Bj gets voted out, by either Koror or Ulong, after being returned.
EP8 we still have two tribes, Ulong with just Ibe/BJ and Steph. Ulong loses the last team IC (fire building?) and a second fire building challenge is used as a tiebreaker instead of TC to determine who goes home between Steph and Ibe/Bj. Steph wins and spends the night alone (Mersaydeez), before being absorbed into Ulong the next day, so no green merge buff is needed.(Bianca Spoiler) I need KB to clarify, bc FP says that CMC did not specify which ep. the kidnapping occurs in.. and I do not think Mersaydeez specified what ep. the fire challenge would occur in other than the one before the "merge" or "absorption" Because CMC was correct about Koror getting to eavesdrop on Ulong's TC in ep. 5 and award ind. immunity, CMC is given some weight...
Also, there is the lack of any challenge photos bc possibly BJ (or Ibe) is sitting out the IC or participating in it for Koror.
 
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03-28-05, 03:51 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Is There Anything" |
>I was looking for this too,
>and I found what KB
>set forth in the Mersaydeez
>thread:
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>BJ/Ibe get "kidnapped" (Callmeecrazee Spoiler) in
>EP7 (the reward?),Ibe/Bj gets voted
>out, by either Koror or
>Ulong, after being returned.
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>EP8 we still have two tribes,
>Ulong with just Ibe/BJ and
>Steph. Ulong loses the last
>team IC (fire building?) and
>a second fire building challenge
>is used as a tiebreaker
>instead of TC to determine
>who goes home between Steph
>and Ibe/Bj. Steph wins and
>spends the night alone (Mersaydeez),
>before being absorbed into Ulong
>the next day, so no
>green merge buff is needed.(Bianca
>Spoiler)
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>I need KB to clarify, bc
>FP says that CMC did
>not specify which ep. the
>kidnapping occurs in.. and I
>do not think Mersaydeez specified
>what ep. the fire challenge
>would occur in other than
>the one before the "merge"
>or "absorption" e: The scenario I put forth was just an attempt to put all the spoilers together in a logical sequence. I have posted the original CMC quotes below. CMC did not specify when the "kidnapping" was supposed to happen, and as I posted below, it may have already occured...
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26. "RE: Is There Anything" |
Other than CMC's word, what would lead one to think a kidnapping would take place?Well, therein lies the delimma. See Vols spec, post #2 in this thread. There is nothing anywhere that would suggest or hint at a kidnapping or a taking of a POW.....except, the lack of challenge pics for the IC, perhaps, and maybe the old vidcaps of BJ from ep 2??? The only real reason one would speculate the taking of a POW is indeed the tip from CMC. And, if CMC didn't have such a good record for spoiling this Survivor, then we wouldn't give this a second thought.
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03-28-05, 03:49 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Is There Anything" |
"IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN CMC'S WORD...?"
There's the Press Release: "...when one tribe member is FORCED to sit out a challenge...."
If the forced member isn't from ULONG, then the misdirection is
very lopsided, meaning it's all about Koror! I think a POW would be forced to sit out.
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03-28-05, 04:23 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Is There Anything" |
OK, so I should have said it's MOSTLY all about Koror.
So, which KOROR member, who would be forced to sit out, would
"doubt their tribe's ABILITY to win"?
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42. "RE: Is There Anything" |
OR POW BJ -doubting Ibe's ability-AGAIN
Re: Misdirection#4: "During a crucial immunity, one survivor takes over for a struggling tribemate." We know this is Ulong.
We think there are 3 members, but read this again and pretend there are only 2 members!
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03-28-05, 03:45 PM (EST)
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28. "Callmeecrazee Quotes..." |
Here are Callmeecrazee's original quotes related to the "kidnapping":
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callmecrazee
Registered User(3/15/05 2:54 pm)
Reply ezSupporter Re: Time will tell "What I heard...one tribe gets to eavesdrop on the other's TC, but before they vote, the eavesdroppers appear and get to immunize the one person it appears the tribe is going to vote for, screwing up the vote because the tribe has to vote right away without a chance to talk about who else to vote for. The immunizing may or may not be a POW situation where they get to steal the person back to their own tribe, but this may happen later. I've been waiting to post either one of these because I wasn't given a timeline or whether they happened together, but it could fit in a double boot situation." Quote: callmecrazee
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Reply ezSupporter Re: THON "Just to be clear, I don't know if both tribes are at TC at the same time or not - only that one tribe gets to decide on which person the other tribe can't vote out. Whether they listen in on Jeff grilling the other tribe during TC openly or in secret I don't know. Take it for what it's worth."
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ezSupporter
Re: Just some spoilers... ""If" Steph and Ibe do compete in this fire-making challenge as the last two of Ulong, and from what I heard someone does gets kidnapped (a male), that would leave Bobby Jon as the only logical one to get POW'd from Ulong because I just don't see Koror taking James."
Is it possible that the "kidnapping" already took place when "Ibrehem" (a male) was voted immunity and in essence "kidnapped" from the Ulong Tribe saving him from TC? Could it be that the original description of that event was interpreted as a "kidnapping" when it was really the "immunization" of Ibrehem by a vote. You might say Ibrehem was kidnapped at the TC by the Koror vote and returned to the Ulong tribe after their TC...in which case nothing else will happen with regard to a POW exchange during EP7.
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32. "RE: Callmeecrazee Quotes..." |
LAST EDITED ON 03-28-05 AT 03:57 PM (EST)Is it possible that the "kidnapping already took place when "Ibrehem" (a male) was voted immunity and in essence "kidnapped" from the Ulong Tribe saving him from the TC? At this point, it is possible...anything is possible.
But I am dubious. The way CMC worded the original spec about one tribe easedropping on the other and then saying the eavesdroppers then get to immunize the one person that appears to be getting voted out, and then saying that this could lead to the kidnapping scenario as well....they just didn't know. It sounds to me like CMC got two bits of info, and perhaps was trying to put the two pieces together here. It sounds as though hearing that one member of Ulong does get kidnapped(a male) is the second bit of info. From my understanding CMC had a credible source before the start of the season. I have been led to believe that CMC may no longer be in touch with their source, so there is no way to clarify the details that they did receive. It sounds to me that the eavesdropping and granting of immunity to the one most likely to get the boot, and then the kidnapping of a Ulong male are 2 different details that they may have received. In their first post it seems as though it was CMC's way of fitting the 2 pieces of the puzzle together....just as we are trying to fit this piece of info into this episode now.....whether it fits or not!
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03-28-05, 04:11 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Callmeecrazee Quotes..." |
KB, as Snewser asks the questions regarding the kidnapping/POW situation in conjunction with the RC, what is your response to the three Ulongers going somewhere with the tribal flag, BJ's carrying his canteen belt and shoes, and Steph is carrying a tray/tablet of some sort with items on it, that most are speculating is a shot of them going to the IC. Could the POW be part of the reward, that will be carried out upon the arrival at the IC? Do you think if a POW situation occurs that the POW will be with Koror indefinately, and not returned to Ulong, therefore leading to a fire building challenge to decide the boot at the TC?
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03-28-05, 04:56 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: POW speculation" |
BJ in a bamboo cell? I thought this was family-rated!
It would actually answer two of the CBS teasers, IMHO.
The sit-out fo'sure (BJ) and possibly the last teaser:
"During a crucial immunity, one Survivor takes over for a struggling tribemate." I think, if there were 3 members competing
on the tribe in question (Ulong)then TWO survivors would be wanting to take over for the tribemate in question(Ibe)!
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48. "RE: POW speculation" |
Would this scenario fit all of the spoilers we have?Koror wins RC and kidnaps Bobby Jon when Ulong arrives for IC. (Bobby Jon is forced to watch the challenge but not allowed to participate.) Ulong wins IC and Koror votes off Bobby Jon. Or, if Koror wins, the war is over and the POW is released. Ulong votes Bobby Jon off. This would leave Ibe and Steph for the fire challenge on episode 8. Ulong looses IC on episode 8 and Ibe looses the fire challenge to Steph. If Steph only spends one night alone, she would join Koror on Day 22 of the Palau Calendar.
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03-28-05, 05:22 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: POW speculation" |
Sure,but then the teasers would all be about Koror. One, atleast
or two IMHO should be about Ulong.
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53. "RE: POW speculation" |
If Ibe and Stephenie take on Ian and let's say Jen for example, maybe Jen is struggling and Ian attempts to take over and do everything in the challenge.I was thinking the same thing. And it could apply to Ulong as well. If it's a case of someone coming in from the bench, though, I think this has to refer to Koror. Either the IC is designed for three people -- in which case all of Ulong has to participate from the start -- or, if there is a POW scenario as we are discussing, it's designed for two people. But, in the latter instance, if Koror POW's someone from Ulong, the POW presumably cannot take over for anyone. However, if Koror only has to sit out five people, they may have the luxury of sending one person in as a reliever if necessary.
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58. "RE: POW speculation" |
Nah, I'm taking bets the gross food challenge will be the ep. Coby's voted out.
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61. "RE: Timelines and Problems" |
When Rupert was kidnapped there was no additional time allowed. It happened right after the IC. In the vidcaps for this week it appears all 3 Ulongs are at their camp all day. Why kidnap somebody for one day?
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60. "RE: Timelines and Problems" |
Interesting...my Cableone guide for this week's show says "Days 19, 20, and 21". I never saw where Mer said Bobby goes this week 100%. Every post I have seen say that she is speculating the final two Ulong members were Ib and Steph from the clues given to her. So try this on. The POW is an attempt by EPMB to yet again try to give Ulong a fighting chance but they screw up this one too. Koror wins RC, the prize is MREs and they get to pick a POW for the IC. Bobby is the POW only for the IC this week, making him the frustrated sit out. He is kidnapped at the IC but not for very long. The IC is titled Sea Stars...a swiming/diving challenge, forcing Steph to do all the work because IB sucks at swimming/diving. Making her the person who takes over for a struggling tribemate. IC is over, Ulong loses, BJ is released, he and Steph have had it with IB and vote him out this week. Matching Corvis's confessional analysis. Ep. 8 covers days 23, 24,& (maybe)25. Ulong loses immunity again. Bobby loses fire starting challenge to Steph. Steph spends Tribal Council night alone after Bobby is gone and then is absorbed into Koror. Matching the spoilers that Bobby last until the 4th week and Steph spending a night alone. Jiffy warned us and the players this was going to be the most physical Survivor ever and that voting off strong team members would be a very bad thing....I am taking this to mean that all team ICs are going to be physical.
IMHO this makes all the spoilers possible without having to go out on a very tiny limb to do so. And if we are very lucky we do get to see a caged Bobby LOL.
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03-28-05, 07:46 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Timelines and Problems" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-28-05 AT 07:55 PM (EST)
Debb Ep. 7 covers days 16-17-18
Ep 1- days 1-2-3 Wanda, Jonathan, Jolanda
Ep 2 days 4-5-6 Ashlee
Ep 3 days 7-8 Jeff
Ep 4 days 9-10-11 Kim
Ep 5 day 12 Angie and Willard
Ep 6 days 13-14-15 James
EP 7 days 16-17-18 BJ/Ibe
Ep 8 days 19-20-21 BJ/Ibe
Ep 9 days 22-23-24 Coby/Janu
Ep 10 days 25-26-27 Coby/Janu
Ep 11 days 28-29-30 Steph
Ep 12 days 31-32-33 Gregg
Ep 13 days 34-35-36 Caryn
Ep 14 days 37-38-39 FINAL FOUR Jenn/Ian/Katie/Tom I like this scenario too, despite the days, debb..I was 50-50 but then with the confessional analysis, Veruca Salt's analysis and all you convincing me, I think it is Ibe that goes now 60-40 BUT I think it may be a balance challenge...there has not been one yet and EPMB loves them...also, Snewser has that as a choice for what the RC involves--mostly balance. Therefore, Ibe can't balance and Steph takes over...see my post in jts thread.
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biancaxxx 282 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-05, 12:12 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Timelines and Problems" |
Yes, she was voted off Day 3.
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Debberz13 132 desperate attention whore postings
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03-29-05, 04:00 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Timelines and Problems" |
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03-29-05, 11:18 AM (EST)
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70. "Variation" |
I think this may have been formulated above but I didn't quite see it. Maybe POW is an exaggeration of the actual events.It could simply be that the IC challenge is designed as a 2 on 2 challenge (one man and one woman) but that the opposing tribe (or, the RC winning tribe) gets to choose who sits out. Thus, Koror would force the better swimmer, BJ, to sit out. If Ulong got to choose at all, well, it wouldn't matter because even if Coby and Janu did the challenge they'd beat I-can't-dive-at-all Ib. Steph would have to do all the diving. This type of challenge or reward would be swapped in deliberately in an effort to finish off Ulong because this is the tribal equivalent of a Pagonging and those make for bad tv. This would force the merge to happen sooner (than anticipated by the original storyboard), and, so what if it does? Post-merge, in this case, will make for better tv. 
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mavsfan 693 desperate attention whore postings
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03-28-05, 10:02 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
A couple of thoughts:First, what about an ambassador situation instead of a kidnapping? BJ goes to Koror for a few hours, and Ian? goes to Ulong for a few hours. Not a POW situation, but If BJ were spot in Korors camp, this could be why. I think It's virtually certain that BJ ends up at Koror and either sees Tom's shark, or maybe even HELPS Tom get the shark.
I know we've had a few comments from BJ about Tom being a Man's Man. And I think those comments are forshadowing of this week when BJ ends up one way or another in Korors camp and gets blown away by Tom killing a shark. I think BJ ends up back at Ulong and gets voted out because we have the spoiler saying Steph ends up as the last Ulong vs 8 Koror. I think this tells us that BJ/Ibe don't make the merge, otherwise it would be 2 vs 8. It also doesn't make sense for Ulong to have a 1 vs 1 immunity challenge this week if BJ stays at Koror, and then have another 1 vs 1 immunity challenge next week. So, BJ ends up at Koror (ambassador or POW) but gets returned pre TC vote. They have a 3 way TC. BJ's sent home (never leave your tribe if you can help it RC winner or not). Steph and Ibe next week compete for TC immunity and Steph wins - merging at 1 vs 8.
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03-29-05, 11:09 AM (EST)
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69. "RE: Will a Kidnapping/POW even occur in Ep 7?" |
First, what about an ambassador situation instead of a kidnapping? BJ goes to Koror for a few hours, and Ian? goes to Ulong for a few hours. Not a POW situation, but If BJ were spot in Korors camp, this could be why.I don't think so, mavs. MB clearly is not going to do anything now to make Ulong think there is going to be a merge. He wants to keep them in the dark until the very last minute. So I don't think any "kidnapping" or "POW" or "whatever" scenario, if it does occur, is going to involve time at the other tribe's camp, becoming a member of the other tribe, or immunity from getting voted out at a TC.
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03-29-05, 05:51 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: interesting cap" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-29-05 AT 06:23 PM (EST)Oh, if they were returning to camp they'd look happy or sad if they won or lost and they don't. One of the new posters here watched the preview and described this scene looking like Ulong was headed off to work or something to that effect. ETA: In the vidcap thread we were comparing the clothes in that pic with this pic: 
In this pic they're either wearing their canteens or don't have them with them, BJ's shirt doesn't appear to be there, and his shoes weren't visible either so presumably he's wearing them. If they don't like wearing canteen while rowing and they've just rowed back from the IC and plopped down, where is BJ's shirt and why are they either wearing the canteens or have them somewhere else? I still think this pic is post RC. They're wearing shoes because they've been running around trying to attract attention and the canteens may be elsewhere because it's awkward to run while wearing them.
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03-30-05, 05:16 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: interesting cap" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-30-05 AT 05:17 PM (EST)I'm not handy with pictures. If someone can reverse this picture, it is the camp of Ulong. When the picture is reversed-
It appears that rather than coming from the right side of the tree that is near the log that they sit on, they are coming from the left side of the tree near that log. Notice that the "Y shape" portion of the log was cut off at some point.
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03-31-05, 09:20 AM (EST)
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84. "No P.O.W" |
I know this info is a little late, and that we've all speculated about it anyway, but my source has confirmed there will be NO pow exchange in this ep.
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03-31-05, 11:34 AM (EST)
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87. "RE: No P.O.W" |
Thanks Biannca!I have been answering NO to all of the kidnapping/POW exchange questions on all the boards...just felt that it wouldn't be prudent at this point... HOWEVER, I did come up with an EXTREMELY speculative scenerio that might explain how a POW exchange would fit, given we were teased with a shot of the individual immunity necklace... RC is SOS...Ulong loses (boo-hoo) and Koror gets their MRE Reward (See Korors celebrating on their beach - followed by a day of horrendus shitting, and Ian doing TP patrol at the privy). IC is Sea Stars, but there's a catch...before the IC each team choses a 'POW' from the other team. This POW is made to sit out the IC AND go to TC with their captors. The OTHER catch...the POW has immunity. Koror chooses BJ to sit out, Ulong chooses Tom. Ulong goes to TC and Tom and Stephanie (see ep. 1 alliance) vote out Ibe. POWs go back home the next morning. OR (more likely) IC is Sea Stars, the POW sits out the challange (held 'captive' by the other team) and then goes to TC with their OWN tribe, bestowed with immunity for having to sit out the challange. Once again, Koror picks BJ to sit out, he gets the individual immunity when his tribe looses, they go to TC, and vote out Ibe. In either scenerio, there are enough people for a vote at TC and Steph has someone at camp with her...leaving the fire challange for next week and Steph spending the night alone for after next weeks TC.
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03-31-05, 02:59 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: No P.O.W" |
The latter is what I'm thinking too! It wouldn't be so much a POW, as an amendment to the sit-out rule. If each tribe can neutralize the other's main source of strength, then it (in theory) would even out the playing field. We have already seen
attempts to create equality, such as Pick-Em, By-Any-Means and
the Sumo-at-Sea. Trouble is, nothing can change the fact that Ibe can't swim!
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04-01-05, 10:01 AM (EST)
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90. "RE: No P.O.W" |
No kiddnapping this week !!!!
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04-01-05, 10:40 AM (EST)
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91. "RE: No P.O.W" |
What prompted the inital thought of a POW plot?
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