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"The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
LAST EDITED ON 03-19-05 AT 03:36 AM (EST)

Updated 3/19 12:37am.

The following is a summary of the Mersaydeez Spoiler arranged in the approximate order in which the events would occur. It has been updated after EP5…

The actual quotes can be found in the original Mersaydeez Spoiler Thread here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5732&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0

Or in the first Mersaydeez Highlight Thread here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5753&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0


According to Mersaydeez:

It’s unclear if there is a switch or not. Ibrehem doesn't get switched, if there is one in EP3.

Bobby Jon and Ibrehem are not the next two to go.

Jeff gets hurt and “quits.”

Ibrehem will take the role of the "nail holder" while building the latrine. The latrine building is part of the Home Depot challenge.

Kim goes before Angie.

Willard goes pre-jury.

The winning tribe in EP5 gets to eat beef stew.

Angie and Willard arrive at Loser Lodge together as a result of the EP5 Double boot TC. As of November 13th, Stephenie was the last girl on Ulong. (According to TDT's calendar - November 12th is the date of the double boot.)

Stephenie was able to convince Ibe and Bobby Jon to keep her around.

Ibrehem goes late pre-jury. It’s unclear if he makes the merge or not, but he doesn’t make the jury.

The immunity challenge that is the last one before the jury (don't know what # that would be), is a fire starting competition. ... It's either Ibrehem/Bobby Jon vs Stephenie in that challenge. But Mersaydeez believes it to be Ibrehem, since he goes late pre-jury.

Stephenie wins that challenge. From what Mersaydeez gathers, they have a challenge which decides who goes on vacation, and who joins the jury. Stephenie wins. She definitley spends a night alone… Literally, alone. Mersaydeez was told - "that's never happened before". Plus, she would be alone, for many many many nights if it was the case of having nobody in her old tribe, when she was just told "a night".

Wanda and Ibrehem went on separate vacations.
Kim, Jeff and Jonathan went somewhere together on vacation.
Bobby Jon, Ashlee and Ibrehem went to Australia on vacation.

After the merge, Katie and Jen didn't get along with Stephenie.

Tom does kill the shark.

Jen and Gregg have a little island romance.

The jury (F9) is made up of 8 original Koror and 1 original Ulong. Willard is the only original Koror to not make the jury.
Stephenie is the only original Ulong to make the jury.

By a process of elimination Coby and Janu are the first two members of the jury,. Finishing 9th and 8th.

Stephanie doesn’t make F6…but she outlasts more than one Koror on the jury, therefore by deductive reasoning would be finish in 7th place.

Gregg wins the Palua Agressor II Yacht Reward and takes Jen and Katie. (It’s unclear if family members are involved or not.) It also involves swimming with the Dolphins and breakfast and showers, so it’s probably an overnight reward. Greg is eliminated around the time of this reward.

Gregg finishes 6th, Caryn 5th.

Corvette might be a reward around Caryn's boot.

The timing of the Palau Aggressor II Reward and Jen’s participation, puts her in the final four.

Tom, Katie and Ian are 3 of the F4. (The Palau Agressor II information puts Jen in the final 4 as well)

Katie makes F2.

So based on the Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary:

EP5: Angie and Willard
EP6: James
EP7/EP8: Bobby Jon and Ibrehem
EP9/EP10: Janu and Coby
EP11: Stephenie
EP12: Gregg
EP13: Caryn
EP14: Final 4, Jen, Tom, Ian and Katie...Final 2 Katie and ???


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Recent Mersaydeez Posts... Krautboy 03-11-05 1
   RE: Recent Mersaydeez Posts... Brownroach 03-11-05 5
       RE: Recent Mersaydeez Posts... emydi 03-12-05 17
 RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary volsfan 03-11-05 2
   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Draco Malfoy 03-11-05 3
       RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary volsfan 03-11-05 4
           RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary ginger 03-11-05 6
               RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Loquatrix 03-11-05 7
                   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Brownroach 03-11-05 8
                       RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Flowerpower 03-11-05 9
                           RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary pmspml5 03-11-05 10
                   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary watermelon 03-11-05 11
                       RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Seraphaem 03-11-05 12
                           RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary biancaxxx 03-11-05 15
                               RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Seraphaem 03-11-05 16
 What about Ep 14? TeamJoisey 03-11-05 13
   RE: What about Ep 14? Brownroach 03-11-05 14
 TDT's PTTE Krautboy 03-12-05 18
   RE: TDT's PTTE biancaxxx 03-12-05 19
       RE: TDT's PTTE volsfan 03-16-05 24
           RE: TDT's PTTE biancaxxx 03-16-05 27
 where's Jolanda? mavsfan 03-16-05 20
   RE: where's Jolanda? LibraRising 03-16-05 21
       other double boots mavsfan 03-16-05 22
           RE: other double boots bobscure 03-16-05 23
           RE: other double boots volsfan 03-16-05 25
               RE: other double boots BoBoSYD 03-16-05 31
           RE: other double boots JuniorTheorist 03-16-05 26
               What to make of Jolanda mavsfan 03-16-05 28
                   RE: What to make of Jolanda Brownroach 03-16-05 29
                       RE: What to make of Jolanda munson 03-16-05 30
 Two more pieces of info Brownroach 03-18-05 32
   RE: Two more pieces of info Flowerpower 03-18-05 33
       Doubtful AyaK 03-18-05 34
       RE: Two more pieces of info redbeard103152 03-18-05 35
   RE: Two more pieces of info volsfan 03-18-05 36
       RE: Two more pieces of info bobscure 03-18-05 37
           RE: Two more pieces of info volsfan 03-18-05 38
               RE: Two more pieces of info bobscure 03-18-05 39
                   RE: Two more pieces of info bobscure 03-18-05 40
               RE: Two more pieces of info uberspoon 03-19-05 41
                   RE: Two more pieces of info Risti 03-19-05 43
                       RE: Two more pieces of info volsfan 03-19-05 45
                           RE: Two more pieces of info Risti 03-19-05 49
                               RE: Two more pieces of info volsfan 03-19-05 50
                                   RE: Two more pieces of info Risti 03-19-05 52
 Snewser Explains... Krautboy 03-19-05 42
   RE: Snewser Explains... Peachezz 03-19-05 44
       RE: Snewser Explains... volsfan 03-19-05 46
           RE: Snewser Explains... Krautboy 03-19-05 47
               RE: Snewser Explains... Peachezz 03-19-05 48
 Katie and Tom Krautboy 03-19-05 51
   RE: Katie and Tom Seraphaem 03-19-05 53
       RE: Katie and Tom Krautboy 03-19-05 54
           RE: Katie and Tom Seraphaem 03-20-05 55
 ...and the other shoe drops... Brownroach 03-22-05 56
   RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Flowerpower 03-22-05 57
       RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Loree 03-22-05 59
           RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Devious Weasel 03-23-05 66
           RE: ...and the other shoe drops... PepeLePew13 03-28-05 87
               RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Brownroach 03-28-05 88
       don't worry FP... emydi 03-23-05 64
   RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Debberz13 03-22-05 58
   RE: ...and the other shoe drops... applejack93 03-22-05 60
       I agree... emydi 03-23-05 63
           RE: I agree... applejack93 03-23-05 74
   RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Risti 03-22-05 61
       RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Loree 03-23-05 62
           RE: ...and the other shoe drops... Surviette 03-23-05 65
               RE: ...and the other shoe drops... ginger 03-23-05 67
   Tom Gets Drunk? Krautboy 03-25-05 80
 Ep 6 reward info Brownroach 03-23-05 68
   RE: Ep 6 reward info RustytheNail 03-23-05 69
       RE: Ep 6 reward info LookeeLoo 03-23-05 70
           Well dang, hindsight is 20/20 RustytheNail 03-23-05 75
   RE: Ep 6 reward info Krautboy 03-23-05 71
       RE: Ep 6 reward info emydi 03-23-05 72
           RE: Ep 6 reward info Krautboy 03-23-05 73
               RE: Ep 6 reward info emydi 03-24-05 76
               RE: Ep 6 reward info Brownroach 03-24-05 77
                   RE: Ep 6 reward info forehead 03-24-05 78
               RE: Ep 6 reward info Flowerpower 03-24-05 79
 RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary mavsfan 03-25-05 81
   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary kingfish 03-25-05 82
       RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary redbeard103152 03-26-05 83
           RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Bebo 03-26-05 84
               RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary redbeard103152 03-27-05 85
 A different side of Tom Brownroach 03-28-05 86
   RE: A different side of Tom Bebo 03-28-05 89
       RE: A VERY different side of Tom Brownroach 03-29-05 92
 Missed a detail on Ibrehem Brownroach 03-29-05 90
   RE: Missed a detail on Ibrehem Devious Weasel 03-29-05 91
 Just more confirmation Bebo 03-31-05 93
   ...with an anvil Brownroach 04-04-05 94
       RE: ...with an anvil Krautboy 04-04-05 95
       RE: ...with an anvil bobscure 04-04-05 96
           RE: ...with an anvil msmkmk 04-04-05 97
               Reward Challenge Krautboy 04-04-05 98
 Ian wins Indvidual Immunity Krautboy 04-05-05 99
   RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity Seraphaem 04-05-05 100
       RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity bobscure 04-05-05 101
   RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity volsfan 04-05-05 102
       RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity bobscure 04-05-05 103
           RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity Brownroach 04-05-05 104
               RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity bobscure 04-05-05 105
                   RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity Brownroach 04-05-05 106
                       RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity volsfan 04-05-05 108
                           RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity TanNymph 04-05-05 109
                               RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity volsfan 04-05-05 110
                           RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity Brownroach 04-05-05 111
                       RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity bobscure 04-05-05 112
                   RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity msmkmk 04-05-05 107
                       feet bobscure 04-05-05 113
                           RE: feet msmkmk 04-05-05 114
 RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Brownroach 04-07-05 115
   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary KObrien_fan 04-07-05 116
       RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary LookeeLoo 04-07-05 120
           RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary KObrien_fan 04-07-05 121
   Dance Fever... Krautboy 04-07-05 117
       RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut braveheart 04-07-05 118
           Katie Backstabs(speculation no proo... littletown 04-07-05 119
           RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut kingfish 04-07-05 122
               RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut emydi 04-07-05 123
                   RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut kingfish 04-07-05 124
               RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut braveheart 04-08-05 125
                   RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut kingfish 04-08-05 126
       RE: Dance Fever... biancaxxx 04-09-05 127
 Update 4/12 Krautboy 04-12-05 128
   RE: Update 4/12 redbeard103152 04-12-05 129
       RE: Update 4/12 braveheart 04-12-05 130
 EP11 Spoiler Krautboy 04-20-05 131
   Something interesting from Wezzie Brownroach 04-20-05 132
       RE: Something interesting from Wezz... Wezzie 04-21-05 133
 And another item spoiled by the red... Brownroach 04-22-05 134
   RE: And another item spoiled by the... Flowerpower 04-22-05 135
       RE: And another item spoiled by the... Wezzie 04-22-05 136
   RE: And another item spoiled by the... fallingtogether 04-23-05 137
       RE: And another item spoiled by the... Krautboy 04-24-05 138
           RE: And another item spoiled by the... fallingtogether 04-24-05 139
               RE: And another item spoiled by the... Wezzie 04-24-05 140
               RE: And another item spoiled by the... biancaxxx 04-24-05 141
               RE: And another item spoiled by the... smokedog 04-24-05 142
                   RE: And another item spoiled by the... kingfish 04-25-05 144
   RE: And another item spoiled by the... laniking 04-25-05 143
       RE: And another item spoiled by the... Flipper 04-25-05 145
           RE: And another item spoiled by the... JazzyJax 04-25-05 146
 RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Bebo 04-29-05 147
   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Krautboy 04-29-05 148
       RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Bebo 04-29-05 149
           RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Loree 04-29-05 150
               RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Wezzie 04-29-05 151
                   RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Flowerpower 04-29-05 153
 RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary Flipper 04-29-05 152

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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "Recent Mersaydeez Posts..."
Here are Mersaydeez's recent posts (after the airing of EP4) The information in these posts are included in the original post summary:

From Mersaydeez:

Re: Just some spoilers...
So what do I know about the Palau Aggressor II reward?

Gregg wins, and takes Jen and Katie. I highly believe this to happen around Gregg's boot, since I was told that if he would of chosen someone else to go in his place, he could of made it further. Also, if you check TDT's calendar, around the time of the 6th boot is the end of November. Plus DanBollinger had first posted in late December that the Palau Aggressor II was used in late November and TDT posted information about the captain log book, where there seems to be a missing entry for this time frame.

The only thing that is different, is that my information tells me 3 Survivors go on this reward (Gregg taking Jen and Katie). Also, Wezzie/Dan had information that this was the family reward, I was never told that part but it is still very possible.

Not that this is really that much of a spoiler, but swimming with the dolphins was also mentioned to me to be part of this reward (also showers and breakfast, so maybe it's overnight?).

...and the most important thing about this is that the timing would mean Jen is that final missing person into the final 4.

When I had Steph as final 6, and that turned out wrong... I don't think I was too far off. I was told she outlasts more the one Koror in the jury.. so that would have to be atleast 2, without her making the final 6... so that would be 7th place.

So if this reward happens on either 7th person booted or Gregg booted... it would still make Jen the missing piece to the final 4.

Re: Just some spoilers...

They keep her around for awhile.

RE: Steph info changing. No, it won't be. I misunderstood something the first time, and I got clarification on those certain events. I totally understand now what my source is saying, I believe it to be true.

As far as my source not being the only one out there... I know that. If you are referring to the Bobby Jon rumors...

Have you seen this link?

If you don't want to go to the article... this is what I'm pointing out:


Quote:

"Bobby Jon came home from Australia in December, right after they had filmed the show," she said. "He had lost 20 pounds and he ate like he was starving to death. But, I knew that he was all right so when the show came on, I wasn't nervous at all. But, if the show had not been taped and I had been watching as it happen, I would really have been nervous Sand worried."


What did I say before? Ashlee, Ibrehem, and Bobby Jon all went to Australia for their pre-jury vacation.
Edited by: Mersaydeez at: 3/11/05 12:44 am


Re: Just some spoilers...

I don't really know how it plays out and why exactly they keep her (Caryn) around, but that is the information I got.

Re: Just some spoilers...

Coachocd - it's all good. I know you were not slamming me. Pick apart my posts, it's for the best and it should be done IMO... but if someone is saying something that isn't necessarily true or maybe if I didn't clarify enough in my original post, and someone is getting the wrong idea... I will just go over it again.
Edited by: Mersaydeez at: 3/11/05 12:54 am

Re: Just some spoilers...

My information was Stephenie vs an Ulong male (either Bobby Jon or Ibrehem, most likely Ibrehem)... Stephenie wins a close fire starting immunity challenge and makes the jury.



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5. "RE: Recent Mersaydeez Posts..."
I highly believe this to happen around Gregg's boot, since I was told that if he would of chosen someone else to go in his place, he could of made it further

Sounds like Gregg has the option of offering his reward to another person and doesn't do it.


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17. "RE: Recent Mersaydeez Posts..."
BR, I think this has more to do with who he chooses to take with him on the reward. Jenn is a no brainer. But Katie over CARYN that will just make Caryn really mad and she may talk with Ian and Tom when they are alone and say she will agree to oust Greg if he doesn't win immunity...

Caryn may even win immunity if it is a mental challenge...remember us attorneys are quite analytical

So when Greg doesn't win immunity, Tom and Ian see this as a good opportunity to oust him instead of Jenn (or Caryn if Caryn fails to win immunity--but I think for this to work and Ian and Tom to agree, Caryn would have to be safe) but then Caryn loses in F5 immunity (she won't win the car challenge which is always very physical--I think Tom will win that and thereby sealing his fate NOT TO WIN the game ) and she goes at F5.



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2. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
This may be picky but was Ibe the nail holder during the challenge lastnight?
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3. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
I don't remember. It's possible that Ibe's "laziness" was kind of edited out. Although I noticed a LOT of shots of him showed him very "checked out" of the game.


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4. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
I noticed that too. I saw a couple of shots of him all slumped over like he couldn't hold himself up.
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6. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
I'm prepared, at this point, to give Mersaydeez snaps where due for fairly consistent, specific, proven spoiling to date.


I'm so darn perky.




Of course, I can't spoil my way out of a wet paper bag. But still...

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7. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Agreed, ginger. The accuracy rate is high with Mersaydeez. I also like these spoilers because they seem to point to Ian and Katie doing well, and those two have been my favourites since we first met them!

Ah, I love it when the spoilers seem to be supporting my partiality. ::grin::

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8. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Yeah, but we barely have anything to do now. I though that with the absence of a Snewser list we'd have to figure out most weeks from scratch.

I'm kinda hoping Snewsers' comment that "everyone is wrong in the long run" means some of this won't pan out.


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9. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
I'm kinda hoping Snewsers' comment that "everyone is wrong in the long run" means some of this won't pan out.

Ditto, BR...

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10. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Didnt he say to be careful. Someone will appear to be right from the beginning and then will have the ending wrong. Merc seams to be right so far - but I'm not willing to put all my nuts in one basket quite yet.

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11. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Totally agree After the Vanuatu strategy of voting out the strongest first, it's refreshing to see the more deserving players lasting longer in this series (although Kim should have gone out ages ago!)
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12. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
From what I've seen in my limited capacity I think Mersaydeez is doing a fine job. Concise, accurate and most of all congenial.

Then again, the warnings by the God of Truth were issued with care.

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15. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Welcome back, Sera.
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16. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
LAST EDITED ON 03-11-05 AT 11:29 PM (EST)

Thank you for the welcome, Bianca. Hopefully everything is well on your end of the world. I suppose Mersaydeez browses this fine establishment as well as yourself. Maybe she'd be a doll and contact me via PM ... I have few questions to ask in private.

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13. "What about Ep 14?"
LAST EDITED ON 03-12-05 AT 01:18 PM (EST)

Nothing to see here.

Move along.

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14. "RE: What about Ep 14?"
The Final 4 would be Episode 14; Krautboy tried to trick us by hitting the return key.


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18. "TDT's PTTE"
TDT has updated his Survivometer and arranged the remaining contestants in reverse boot order. His prediction is based heavily on the Mersaydeez Spoiler, supplemented by a few other bits of gathered information.

Ian
Katie
Tom
Jennifer
Caryn
Gregg
Stephenie
Janu
Coby
Ibrehem
Bobby Jon
James
Angie/Willard

There are no suprises here, but don't forget Snewser's warning, issued after Mersaydeez and Redqueencheckmate posted conflicying spoilers:

"Everyone is wrong in the long run. Some will be ducking for cover tomorrow night. Others will initially appear heroes, but beware."

The question now is will Mersaydeez be "wrong in the long run", or does the "Everyone" in the warning include Snewser himself?


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19. "RE: TDT's PTTE"
It's looking solid. I really don't see how there can be an error.

But, as always, we'll have to wait and see ;)

I personally took Snews's warning that "everyone will be wrong in the end" to be exclusivily about the debate on the ep2 boot/RQCM's false information on Steph.

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24. "RE: TDT's PTTE"
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-05 AT 07:40 AM (EST)

bianca...be careful when you say there can't be an error. We (as spoilers) have been down this road before and I am sure it will happen again. There is almost always something that happens outside the box.

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27. "RE: TDT's PTTE"
Yeah, I know
I haven't been around spoiling for the past seasons, but I know even snews has had one or two wrong in the past.
I just find that there is a lot of colaborative info supporting this bootlist at the moment, but we'll see...one or two could be wrong of course. On the other hand, I'm hoping it's wrong lol, because I don't like the order, ha.
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20. "where's Jolanda?"
Is it significant that Jolanda isn't listed as going on vacation with anyone?

I know the theory runs that we have a double elimination this week, with both teams going to TC.

But, the only time I remember a double elimination was when we had the ghost tribes, returning players. At that time both teams lost to the ghost team and had to booted a player. 2 ghost players returned. What if this time only 1 team lost to the ghost team? Who would the ghost team vote into the game? The logical choices would be Jonathan or Jolanda I would think.

So, Is it significant that Jolanda isn't listed as going on vacation with the others?

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21. "RE: where's Jolanda?"
There was a double boot in Vanuatu. Both tribes went and voted out a member (when John P. and Mia were booted). John K. won individual immunity, went to stay with the girls and got to give the girl of his choice immunity (he gave it to Ami).

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22. "other double boots"
Thanks for the reminder. Although my memory of it is sketchy. I never really cared about the folks in Vanuau so My Memory of that show ain't so hot.

Still, Is it relevant that Jolanda is missing from the vacation list?

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23. "RE: other double boots"
I remember seeing the vacation list and Ib was listed twice and Jo not at all, but I don't have the patience to go through 3,000 posts to find it. Can't say that I remember seeing her name on any of the vacation lists. That infernal thread is too dang long. Wish they'd start a new one with all of Mersaydeez' posts.
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25. "RE: other double boots"
We really have nothing to point to a ghost tribe this time around. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Jiffy admitted that he hated the ghost tribe idea and I don't think MB would go down that route again.

I don't know that not having Jolanda on a vacation list is any indication of what happens with people still in the game. To Jolanda...LL could be a paradise and decided to not go on a vacation. IMHO!

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31. "RE: other double boots"
The return of the outcasts was a very bad idea - a desparate decision to try and be innovative with their format instead of maintaining the integrity of the concept.
Hated it!
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26. "RE: other double boots"
Meh.

Didn't Jolanda run for public office shortly after she returned from filming? Given her personality, she was probably hard at work gearing up for that in LL.

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28. "What to make of Jolanda"
Maybe Jolanda thought LL was heaven and spent all of her time there planning a run for political office. But, I didn't think they kept the pre Jury boots at LL when the jury started showing up.

It seems to me Jolanda SHOULD be going on vacation SOMEWHERE if she's still out of the game when Jury starts to show up.

Maybe she went on vacation alone.
Maybe she wasn't memorable enough to list.

I don't know what to make of it. I'm just suggesting we use caution and consider the fact that she's not on the list (atleast that I've seen).

It seems to me it should be considered, and not just shoe horned into the spoilers at hand.

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29. "RE: What to make of Jolanda"
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-05 AT 12:26 PM (EST)

Mersaydeez only found out vacation info about six people. She was told that Bobby Jon, Ashlee and Ibrehem went to Australia together. She was also told that Jeff, Kim and Jonathan went to another location together.

She simply didn't receive any vacation info about anyone else: Wanda, Jolanda, Angie or Willard, whom she presumed would be leaving together tonight, and James, who is the other person she said goes pre-jury. Maybe her source didn't know where these people went or in what groupings.


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30. "RE: What to make of Jolanda"
As Wanda and Jolanda appeared to form some sort of mutual admiration society based upon their post-game interviews, it's easy to infer they spent some together, probablt on vacation.
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32. "Two more pieces of info"
LAST EDITED ON 03-18-05 AT 05:23 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 03-18-05 AT 12:36 PM (EST)

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Re: Just some spoilers...
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I had something that I just didn't post just because it wasn't clear enough to say "James goes episode 6". Pretty much what it is was that I was told that Stephenie was able to convince Ibe and Bobby Jon to keep her around.

Take it for what it's worth, probably not much since that could be interpreted into a 1000 different ways.


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Re: Just some spoilers...
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"If" Steph and Ibe do compete in this fire-making challenge as the last two of Ulong, and from what I heard someone does gets kidnapped (a male), that would leave Bobby Jon as the only logical one to get POW'd from Ulong because I just don't see Koror taking James.

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CMC was right about how Ulong's TC would go down this week. Mersaydeez' new post is more fuel for James being a goner next week. So the way this could work to satisfy both scenarios is that the week after James goes, BJ gets kidnapped by Koror while Ibee and Steph have to compete in the fire-building contest.

Ibee loses and leaves, Steph spends a night alone, the tribes merge, and BJ gets voted out first (this would be day 21, I think, meaning he just missed making it to the fourth week, but that may be close enough to satisfy Fp's info.)


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33. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
LAST EDITED ON 03-18-05 AT 12:29 PM (EST)

CMC was dead on with the eavesdropping then voting for one on the other tribe to get immunity, thus throwing a big wrench into the voting plan for the losing tribe.....

from what I heard someone does get kidnapped(a male)

If CMC said this, then I am buying it! It just fits with so much. I am convinced that BJ lands at Koror at some point in this game.....fwiw

ETA: This next part has more to do with the editing, as I know VS would love this....I really think that in ep 7 BJ will be involved with the killing of the shark, somehow....thus conquering his fear of sharks, so his story arc can be completed and he could be good to go....who knows, maybe the "great white shark hunter" could be referring to BJ on the hunt for the great white shark of the Koror tribe, Tom...


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34. "Doubtful"
who knows, maybe the "great white shark hunter" could be referring to BJ on the hunt for the great white shark of the Koror tribe, Tom...

Occam's Razor says "no" to this.

From a set of otherwise equivalent assumptions, we should choose the simplest one -- and the simplest one is that this is the shark-killing, which we (and Mark Burnett's foreshadowing) have associated with Tom.

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35. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
Its beginning to look like the pieces of the puzzle are starting to fit together. When the two major spoiling sources start to flow together and arrive at the same conclusion either we are really on to something or are being set up for a real big fall for both.I guess we will have to wait for awhile and see just what path we are headed on.RedBeard
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36. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
BR, I follow what you are saying but do you think Koror would "kidnap" BJ in one episode and then vote him out the next episode and leaving Steph on board?
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37. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
If it happens, I wonder if it will be like PI, when Drake won their first IC and as a reward was allowed to kidnap Rupert until the next IC. They gave Rupert the option to stay with Drake. If BJ's given the same option and decides to stay with Koror, Koror may not want him and vote him out.

OTOH, if he stays, would he get a Koror buff? That would leave Steph with the only blue buff. If he can stay and Koror continues to win, that gets him to at least 10th.

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38. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
I was thinking along the lines of BJ going to Koror and making friends and getting to know them better and wondering why Koror would pick to boot BJ over Steph.

I think BJ would be more than excited to get away from those losers!

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39. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
LAST EDITED ON 03-18-05 AT 09:11 PM (EST)

I totally agree, he seems likable and would undoubtedly be grateful for the opportunity. His primary impetus for staying should be because after the tied vote with Angie, he knows he's in imminent danger at Ulong.

I was reading through the mersaydeez thread last night. One of the posters lined up the spoilers really well around p. 165. FP was having a problem with booting James over BJ since Ulong considers him an immunity threat. My first thought was that it was because BJ wasn't there to vote out.

That would make James at 12, Ib at 11, Steph spends the night alone. Then since we're seeing a weak Janu in previews, perhaps Janu mercy boot at 10. I'm somewhat intrigued by Willard's "Keep to the plan" comment, because I'm hoping they don't and it comes back to bite them.

ETClarify: My usual incoherent thoughts.

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40. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
I know I shouldn't reply to my own post but realized part was vewy vewy stoobid. He's not just in imminent danger because he tied with Angie, he's in imminent danger simply because he's on Ulong. Feh!
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41. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
I was thinking along the lines of BJ going to Koror and making friends and getting to know them better and wondering why Koror would pick to boot BJ over Steph.

The easiest explaination for that would be if both BJ and Steph make the merge (Steph through her own doing and BJ via being drafted) and Steph won the first individual immunity. The Koror 5 would probably opt to boot BJ over canibilizing one of their own too quickly and risking a possible coup.

If the Mersaydeez spoiler placing Steph at 7th is true that would either mean that Steph goes on an immunity run...or the 2 Korors who go before her indeed did try to stage a coup and they got punished for it.

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43. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
Also, once they do reach the merge, do you not think the Koror Fraternity of Manly Men(with good hearts) would want to risk Bobby-Jon going on an IC run? This is the guy who carried 80 pounds on his back for hours... They'd pick him while they're looking for someone to benefit their tribe, yes. Are they going to let him stick around long enough to break up their inner circle? No. This is also my theory for why Coby (theoretically, I don't think there's any direct evidence other than process of elimination) goes before Caryn. Caryn is a thorn in everyone's side, yes, but Coby not only has some strength, he has a mind to stir up trouble if they let him stick around too long. This is a smart tribe, who I believe has enough integrity (and the inner circle generally like each other enough, from what we've been shown) to stick to their alliance. Their strength has given them the numbers to do it.
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45. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
Uber, from here on out I have decided to go more on the editing and vidcaps to decide who I think will go and when (I believe the spoiler lists we have will start falling apart soon).

Risti, I understand what you are saying about the BJ boot and why he would go before Steph. However, I think it would be a HUGE stretch to think that Steph is going to go on an immunity run of any length of time. IMHO! She may win the first immunity after the merge but I have a hard time thinking she could win more than one in a row with the strength that Koror now has over anyone on Ulong.

I also think the Koror fraternity of manly men you mentioned earlier also gives me reason to stop and think about BJ going before Steph. I think the fraternity would keep BJ over the weaker Steph...IMHO.

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49. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
I was never saying Stephanie would go on an immunity run, just that the major alliance would vote based on who posed a threat to them, starting with Bobby-Jon. I do see where you're coming from with the fraternity wanting to keep Bobby-Jon, but I think the editing might be tricking us into believing these guys are more wholesome and trusting then they actually are. We haven't needed to see them plotting and scheming yet, but I think it's too early in the game to say that just because they're nice guys with a good attitude and a strong physical presence, they aren't capable of of playing the other aspect of this game just as well. They didn't just vote Willard out because he was weak. They voted him out because they knew he had a strong mind that could become a threat in the latter part of the game.

While I'm hesitant to trust it, since there is the 'strategies revealed...' aspect to it, there was that scene EPMB showed us at the beginning with Stephanie having a tentative connection to the majority alliance as well. She, quite frankly, would be rather stupid to join in as the loose sixth member of an alliance, when there is the possibility to create a counterbalance(Coby, Caryn, Janu, Bobby-Jon, and herself), but she might play along for an episode or two.

Actually, that's another reason I can see Bobby-Jon and Coby leaving the game a little prematurely. I can't see Coby not jumping at the opportunity to align with people once the numbers are there. He mentioned in the last episode that he didn't want to paint a target on his back by stirring up the pot, which could be suggestive of what he eventually does.

So let me paint out a scenario while my mind is running down this tangent:

The merge, or whatever they decide to call it, occurs with ten people left. The Fab Five are suddenly not the majority, and decide to bring Stephanie into the group for the sake of numbers, figuring at this point she'll be grateful to them for not voting her out immediately, as opposed to the rest of the original Koror, who are carefully painting targets on the back of each of their heads.

Coby, the schemer, has already approached Bobby-Jon as soon as he landed on their beach with the intent to get into his skirt form an alliance to get rid of the super powers. Once Stephanie arrives, they both approach her with this. I'm assuming here that Janu and Caryn really are outside of the Fab Five alliance, which is something that in reality I'm not completely convinced of.

Stephanie, then, becomes the swing vote in all of this. We've already seen that she seems to show no real loyalty to Bobby-Jon, and that she places a high value on 'winning', which she would see the other tribe do. We've also been beat over the head with the idea that Ulong really is causing its own destruction by gutting their strength, and that they aren't very good with long term strategy. So, in one final showing of this stupidity, Stephanie joins with Koror to vote out the only other remaining member of her tribe.

The next week(9 people remaining), Coby is voted out for daring to organize a movement against Tom(who I'm sure would have been this group's target). If Janu and Caryn aren't actually as outside of the major alliance as we've been led to believe, he may actually be the only one besides BJ to vote for Tom. This treason will be his downfall.

At 8 members remaining, Janu becomes the mercy vote. At 7, Stephanie has outlived her usefulness, and if Katie and Jen and her don't get along, she could be the target. Although I do wonder at this point how Caryn is sticking around... By 6, though, a five person alliance starts to be rather redundant, and I'm sure people will start voting a bit more individually.

All of this is simply speculation, of course, but it's one way the spoilers could play out that matches the editing, IMHO.

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50. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
It very well could play out this way.

One thing that keeps running through my mind that makes me think the fraternity is really strong is the pics that have come out of Gregg, Ian and Tom in NYC for St. Patties day. I think these guys are going to scheme and play the game but know that it is a game and no hard feelings were carried over.

I am going to wait and see what happens on the next show and hopefully we can get a better idea of tribal dynamics.

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52. "RE: Two more pieces of info"
One thing that keeps running through my mind that makes me think the fraternity is really strong is the pics that have come out of Gregg, Ian and Tom in NYC for St. Patties day.

Katie and Jenn were apparantly there as well, which has solidified in my mind that these five were close, with no hard feelings in the end. If they did indeed all last until the final five, that would be understandable. From that point on it would be every man(or woman) for himself.

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42. "Snewser Explains..."
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Remember Snewser's cryptic post, made as Mersaydeez and RedQueenCheckmate faced off before EP2 and Ashlee's boot:

Everyone is wrong in the long run.
Some will be ducking for cover tomorrow night.
Others will initially appear heroes, but beware.

In this recent post over at SSucks, Snewser appears to explain the meaning of his earlier comment:


Snewser to Mersaydeez:

You're talking about this?

Quote:
Bobby Jon, Ashlee and Ibrehem (all late merge I'm sure) went to Australia.

Looking back, apparently you were concluding that from your information about vacations, not because it was direct information from your source. I would probably make the same mistake (assuming I believed the vacation info in the first place).

There was also some confusion about Stephenie.

In the long run, we all get something wrong, don't we?

Thus far, it's about as good as could be expected from information transmitted verbally. Your source is obviously very well placed and very naughty.


It appears that Snewser's "in the long run" has already taken place as Mersaydeez was already wrong about Ashlee being a late merge, and her early "confusion" about Stephenie making the F6.

Snewser's post is an indirect endorsement of The Mersaydeez Spoiler, telling us that his earlier statement has already come to pass even if the rest of the Mersaydeez Spoiler turns out to be accurate. (Which he must think it may)

Snewser also seems to suggest that while Mersaydeez information is good, it's only verbal, and not as reliable as his, which may be video/vidcap information... in other words, Mersaydeez has a good source, but Snewser is still the King.



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44. "RE: Snewser Explains..."
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I want to jump on the bandwagon of folk to thank you, Krautboy, for you endurance in sticking with the pages and pages of verbal diarrhea to bring us the crux of the Mersaydeez spoilers.

I am confused about a point though. I can't get past one glitch in thinking - probably a simple thing that I can't see.

Anyway, The spoiler that Stephanie beats Ibrehem (or BobbyJon) in a fire starting contest sounds like an individual challenge. But her spending the night alone after winning that challenge seems to indicate that the tribes still had not merged. I just can't blend these two statements in to one clear picture. Anyone help on that?

Edited to correct spelling errors.

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46. "RE: Snewser Explains..."
From what I remember from reading alot of the earlier spoilers, the merge occurs with 8 Koror to 1 Ulong.

The fire challenge was to determine the one remaining Ulong and Steph wins.

However, it is now being spoiled that BJ could get "kidnapped" by Koror before the fire challenge and that he could very well be a part of Koror when the fire challenge takes place.

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47. "RE: Snewser Explains..."
LAST EDITED ON 03-19-05 AT 11:44 AM (EST)

One of the quotes from Mersaydeez:

The immunity challenge that is the last one before the jury (don't know what # that would be), is a fire starting competition. The hint that I got is that it comes down to Ibrehem and Steph. And from that, I think its obvious who wins and becomes a member of the jury and who goes on their vacation.

Mersaydeez never specified whether the last "immunity challenge" before the jury was a team or individual challenge, nor did her source ever definatively identify her opponent, she concluded from the "hints" that it comes down to BJ or Ibrehem.

The spoilers with inside sources(Mersaydeez, Callmeecrazee and Bianca) have all been very reliable. The clearest picture of what will happen is most likely a composite of all of their spoilers combined.

One scenario using the current spoilers:

Steph is able to talk BJ and Ibe into keeping her around...(Mersaydeez) and James goes in EP6

BJ/Ibe get "kidnapped" (Callmeecrazee Spoiler) in EP7 (the reward?),Ibe/Bj gets voted out, by either Koror or Ulong, after being returned.

EP8 we still have two tribes, Ulong with just Ibe/BJ and Steph. Ulong loses the last team IC (fire building?) and a second fire building challenge is used as a tiebreaker instead of TC to determine who goes home between Steph and Ibe/Bj. Steph wins and spends the night alone (Mersaydeez), before being absorbed into Ulong the next day, so no green merge buff is needed.(Bianca Spoiler)


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48. "RE: Snewser Explains..."
Thankyou Krautboy and Volsfan for taking the time to explain that. It helps a lot.

The theory really puts a logical explanation out there. Whether it works or not, it is one good explanation of how the plot could unfold.

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51. "Katie and Tom"
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TDT and The Game have both recently updated their "Survivometer's" to move Tom into the top stop. Not sure if it's the St. Patrick day pics or the recent editing or Mersaydeez's recent clarification's of her original posts about Tom and Katie as her "guess" for the F2.

The first quote is an earlier post from Mersaydeez. The second is a recent clarification post:


Re: Just some spoilers...

I don't know the final 2, that is one thing that I wanted the most that I couldn't get. If I had to guess, from the information I gathered - I would say Katie and Tom. But that is just an educated guess of course.
Who went vacation with Wanda? No idea. I know Ibe, Bobby Jon and Ashlee went to Australia together. Kim, Jeff and Jonathan went somewhere together. I don't know where everyone else went.

Re: Just some spoilers...

Just for clarification, I don't know if it is Katie/Tom for sure... but that is just my educated guess on the info I got.
I agree, Tom would win...
he does kill the shark afterall.


Re:

I don't know who the other final 2 is. I always thought it was Tom, how my source talked about him. Whether Tom makes the final 2 or not... that was just my guess and not spoiler information.


If it ends up that Mersaydeez read the "hint" about Ibrehem correctly, and he ends up facing off against Steph in the firebuilding challenge...then I'd say Mersaydeez probably read her source's "hint" about Tom correctly as well.

We'll have to see...


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53. "RE: Katie and Tom"
Let me put it this way ... Mer, CMC and Bianca have put me out of work for the rest of this season. ;)

Their info is just way too accurate for me to screw with and twist around. They did a great job, although I wish it was released slowly instead of in one lump sum. The tease is always so much more gratifying.

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54. "RE: Katie and Tom"
Welcome back Sera...you've been missed in a twisted sort of way.

I'm sure CBS wishes you were more involved this season!

Thanks for stopping by, hope you're doing OK IRL...


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55. "RE: Katie and Tom"
Thanks. Just as well this season has been completely spoiled since my heart hasn't been fully in it after I came back.

There's always next season.

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56. "...and the other shoe drops..."
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For what it is worth, today my source confirmed Tom final 2. Which is what I always thought from the way my source spoke about him, but now I actually heard the words.

SG - I don't know anything about tomorrows challenges. Sorry!



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57. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
Wow, that is huge news! I would be thrilled to see the patriarch leader actually win the game! It's high time that a well deserving member wins! Can't wait to see how Gregg's plan gets foiled and how he gets the boot! We know one thing for sure, he will indeed get Coby's vote!

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59. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
This would make me very happy. I think Tom really deserves to win. I wonder how Tom and Katie end up in the F2 and not Ian. Who wins the Final Immunity and doesn't take Ian? Or do Katie and Jenn team up and take Ian out at F4. In that way I could see Tom taking Katie to the F2.
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66. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
I’ve said this before, I’m sure I’ll say this again, but I don’t think Tom or Ian would have any hard feelings towards the other if one of them chose to take Katie to the Final Two in order to win.


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87. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
>I wonder how Tom and Katie
>end up in the F2
>and not Ian. Who
>wins the Final Immunity and
>doesn't take Ian?

It doesn't matter who wins final IC, as long as it isn't Ian. Anyone who would take Ian with him/her to the final vote would be a complete idiot, a much worse move than Colby taking Tina to the final instaed of the much-hated Keith. Ian's gonna sweep the floor with anyone if he's in the final two.

If Ian is the winner, then IMHO, he HAS to win final IC.



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88. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
FYI, The Game is saying of Ian:

Looks like the number 3 is his fate. Rather than getting voted out, Ian opts to "exit gracefully." In other words he doesn't lose, he exits.


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64. "don't worry FP..."
even if Tom doesn't win, EPMB will just pull another Rupert "2nd survivor" vote for Tom to win....


Tom and FP sittin in a tree....

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58. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
I have a theory on how this can work. Jenn and Katie somehow get Ian out in 4th place (gag purple rock) This will leave noble Tom still noble and he will take the person he is sure to beat to the final 2, Katie. Tom is not behind Ian being voted out so they are still friends for the parade.

Hey it could happen

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60. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
I'm hoping that this is what snewser means when he says "everyone is wrong in the end", althought there is already an explanation floating around for that, isn't there?

I dunno, Tom's a nice guy, but I just don't like being force-fed the 'hero' thing. I'd rather see a villain win, because villains always have to work so much harder to stay in the game.

Tom is just exactly who the public want to win, and that irritates me.

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63. "I agree..."
Not necessarily a villain needs to win but someone not so Rupert-like... I'm tired of this hero worship of Tom and he is just a bit toooooo much...

I still want Ian to win even if he was a brat in Ep. 5. and I hate the whole freakin show being spoiled at Ep. 6...I hope it's wrong for all our sakes!!

I would like to see Tom's ability to strategize when Koror has to. I may change my mind about Tom if he is able to outmaneuver Coby, who has been shown so far to be the best strategist...irony anyone?



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74. "RE: I agree..."
I'm glad you agree. That's a good way to put it: someone not so Rupert-like.

I would be quite happy to see Ian win actually, he would be a whole new prototype of winner!

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61. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 12:52 PM (EST)

But...but... it's Ian getting the winner's edit.

I just can't buy it, really. There's been something about Tom that just hasn't said 'winner' right from the beginning...

Denial. More than a river in Egypt.

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62. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
In some ways Ian reminds me of Gabe in Marquesas. He is having too much fun just being there and enjoying the experience. And we never hear him talk about strategy.
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65. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
I want Ian to be THE SHARK!!
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67. "RE: ...and the other shoe drops..."
If we believe spoilers to the effect that that Katie is F2, I think Ian has to be the other finalist.
If it were down to 3 and up to Tom to pick the other finalist, he'd pick Ian out of fair play and respect, even it were a less sure win because Ian performed/led as well, if differently, than Tom. If it were up to Ian or Kathie at final 3 as to whom to share the final two spots, and they played to win, they would NOT pick Tom to share the final two with. Tom would be hard to beat. So I could see Ian reluctantly picking Katie, and Katie barely hestitating before picking Ian.



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80. "Tom Gets Drunk?"
This recent post from Mersaydeez:

Re: Inquiring minds want to know

You'll see another side of Tom this season... when he's got some rum in him.

What is Tom's other side?

Tom may win a reward or be taken along to celebrate with the rum. (Is this the reward that led to Gregg's departure, when he selected Tom over Ian and was later voted off?

We'll see...



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68. "Ep 6 reward info"
From Mersaydeez:

Guess who was at Jellyfish lake?

(Picture of Stephenie)

That's what I got from my source. That is the spoiler.

Now here is the spec, since she was singled out by my source... I'm thinking that Koror wins this and gets to pick someone from Ulong to go with them (like Kathy w/ Chapera). Or, maybe Ulong wins the entire challenge and singling Steph out is just to throw me off. What does everyone else think?

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I wonder if this could be the "kidnapping" that CMC heard about. Hmmm....


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69. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
Or the "switch" of "Shoot and Switch" if it is in fact the RC, and Koror win and she switches to join them at the lake.
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70. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
That is what I was thinking too. I mentioned the fact that maybe we have a person switch as part of the shoot and switch. I may have missed that discussion, but didn't recall seeing any speculation as to what the "switch" part meant.

Thanks for more spoiler info!

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75. "Well dang, hindsight is 20/20"
Whoda thunkit ... shoot (tribe 1) and then switch (tribe 2). Overanalyzing the obvious. Sorry to have been part of that!
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71. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
>>I wonder if this could be
>the "kidnapping" that CMC heard
>about. Hmmm....

The Callmeecrazee Spoiler was that "a male" gets kidnapped:


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"If" Steph and Ibe do compete in this fire-making challenge as the last two of Ulong, and from what I heard someone does gets kidnapped (a male), that would leave Bobby Jon as the only logical one to get POW'd from Ulong because I just don't see Koror taking James.
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I think Mersaydeez's source is probably telling us that Ulong wins the RC and Ulong gets to swim in Jellyfish Lake...

The "kidnapping" probably happens next week.



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72. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
um, so I'm chopped liver

The easy answer is that ULONG wins the dern reward,like I've been saying all week..



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73. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
Ummm...chopped liver and onions sauteed in butter...just like my Oma used to make. Krautboys love chopped liver!

Just wanted to add some other evidence to support what you've been saying all along! Since I'm apparently one of the few who were listening...check my Spoiler Island picks!

Thanks e!


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76. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
blech...I was forced to try liver once and I almost died as a child

I liked my grama K's German potato salad though!! Mmmmmmmm vinegary!!

Now why didn't I listen to you guys on James sticking to voting for Ibe...lost points in JTS on that one dern..



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77. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
KB, you are all by yourself at # 1, with a perfect score! Very impressive!


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78. "RE: Ep 6 reward info"
"KB, you are all by yourself at # 1, with a perfect score! Very impressive!"

Very impressive indeed! And in first place in JTS!

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Just so you both know, liver and onions aside, forehead and I pay attention too....check our spoiler island scores as well....of course we may have had a few little errors at the beginning of the game, lol!



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81. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Ok, so Koror kidnapped either Ibe or BJ. In Ep7. And which ever it is, Ibe or BJ - it sounds like they get voted out in Ep7 when Ulong goes to TC.

In Ep8. Steph competes against the last Ulong male for immunity and wins.

The merge is 8 Koror, 1 Ulong.

The only question is which Ulong male goes in Ep7, and which one goes E8.

After the last TC, I have a hard time believing BJ would vote with Steph against Ibe. BJ has to know at this stage that Steph lied to him after "giving her word", and BJ seems to respect Ibe. IF/When it comes to a vote, I think it's almost assured that BJ will vote against Steph rather than side with her against Ibe - I suspect it's a matter of "playing with honor".

We know BJ and Ibe don't align against Steph.

So, it sounds to me like BJ is kidnapped, and it gives Steph and Ibe a chance to plot against him.

Ibe joins Steph and BJ goes to Loser Lodge. I think BJ will see this a "smart game play" and not hold a grudge. The 3 then go on vacation together.

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82. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Beware, this was the first time that "smart Game play" and BJ have been mentioned in the same sentence. Not that it matters if he is punted, he's not on the jury or anything.

But I agree, I think he will go. two more Koror IC wins, and a kidnap of BJ and resulting Steph/IB agreement to oust BJ is possible for E7. Then firestarter and a steph win for E8. Not sure how E9 could go unless Koror lost and one of Coby/Caryn/Janu/Jenn was booted then.

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83. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
LAST EDITED ON 03-26-05 AT 07:13 AM (EST)

I think that Stephenie after spending the night alone will be absorbed into Koror. Ulong will be solonged. The next bootee will be that of the sickly Janu. That will put the knife into the future plans of Gregg.This will also fullfill the prediction that Stephenie will outlast at least some of the Korors.So far things have been falling into place according to the Mersaydeez Spoiler. I do not see any reason why they wont continue on this path at least for awhile longer.RedBeard

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84. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
(Psst...RB, your sig pic's too tall.)


I don't think Janu's going to be booted before Coby. The only way she'd leave before him is if she quit.

Coby is the first target of the Koror 5 post-merge:
- He's been doing much better in challenges than Janu and Caryn, so he's a bigger threat to destroy the pecking order.
- We've been shown Tom consoling and encouraging Janu. She is the least likely in the lesser alliance to be willing to betray him.
- If Tom, Ian, or Katie have the slightest reason to believe that Coby has been plotting against them, they will remove the threat while they can.

The only question in my mind is why Gregg and Jenn don't realize that this is the time that they need to break away from their alliance if they plan to betray Tom, Ian, and Katie. After all, if Steph or Caryn vote with them, that's a 5-4 win.
In Ep7 previews, we're shown Tom questioning the Gregg/Jenn alliance. Is Caryn somehow used as a pawn to test their loyalty? Based on the conversation Gregg had with Coby, they believe Caryn would be the next target, but is the target changed to Coby to test Gregg to see where his true loyalties lie?



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85. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Bebo I can see where you are coming from with the pick of Coby going before Janu. However I think we have been given way too much infomation about Gregg's plan for the endgame to have Coby one of the main coggs involved in it to go this soon. Coby and Gregg are the only two Koror game players at this time. Both of them realise that Tom/Katie/Ian alliance must be broken for either of them to have a chance progressing to the final 4.Gregg and Coby need each other to progress to their future goals. IMHO Losing one or the other at this critical time in the game will directly lead to the demise of both.RedBeard
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86. "A different side of Tom"
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You'll see another side of Tom this season... when he's got some rum in him.


And quartzeye, colleague of wezzie, who've both been getting details that confirmed Mer's and Bianca's info, says:

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My quartzball tells me Tom will break many, many F2 promises.



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89. "RE: A different side of Tom"
That makes total sense. Usually, the target has a huge target on his back (except Brian, who just had Clay on his back), so he would have to have some pretty good deals in place to avoid the chopping block - especially since he's an II threat.

This could also explain why Gregg and Jenn don't flip - Tom has a deal with one or both of them. Maybe he and Gregg bond over the shark kill.



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92. "RE: A VERY different side of Tom"
A little more dirt...

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To everyone that asked me about the POW situation, I have never heard anything about it from my source, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Sorry.


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Mer, are you sorry you got into this? And will you continue to post tidbits of info for us?
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If I had the choice to do this all over again, I probably wouldn't have posted it. But at the same time I'm not sorry I got into it. Yes, I will continue to post tidbits of info for Survivor 10 for everyone as long as I get them.


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Now, on to my daily question for Mersaydeez. Can you give us any details on the upcoming IC and if it involves any form of puzzle-solving?
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I have nothing on the challenges for this episode as of right now.


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I will abide by these rules. Here is my one question for Mersaydeez for today. Is there liquor supplied with the MRE's that Koror wins?
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I don't know when the rum comes into play. But I do know that Tom will probably be wishing that they will remember him for the shark kill and not the rum.

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Sounds like Tom's editing will be getting a little murkier...



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90. "Missed a detail on Ibrehem"
Somehow we missed this one, I found it via a link at TDT:

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That is true. I did post that...

My hint was... Fire starting challenge... Steph wins and makes the jury... Ibe, Bobby, Ash gone to Australia together... Ibe makes it to late pre-jury...

...ETA: I forgot to include in the hints that I was also told that Ibe didn't get to spend much time with the other pre-jury boots... so, put all that together and I'm sure if you were me you would be really leaning towards Ibe...

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FWIW, vis-a-vis figuring out this week's boot.


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91. "RE: Missed a detail on Ibrehem"
It could also mean that most of the other pre-jury boots are gone or that there is not much time between whoever gets booted in Episode 7 and whoever gets booted in Episode 8.


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93. "Just more confirmation"
From James's TV Guide Online interview:

TVG: Maybe you'll get your own Pringle chip.

James: It's gonna be "Who is the only tribe in Survivor history to never win an immunity challenge?" And it's gonna say, "Ulong"! didn't put in one of the things I said. They asked, "If you could give your tribe a different name, what would you call it?" I said, "I'd call it, You Ain't Got Long."

We already knew that Ulong was toast, but this is just one more reminder.



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94. "...with an anvil"
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And now for my weekly question. Mersaydeez, would there possibly be a barbeque attached to this weeks reward?

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SG - I don't know.

Nothing new from me, other than my source confirmed Bobby Jon is gone on Thursday. Not that we didn't know this already...


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95. "RE: ...with an anvil"
I'm curious to see what point value Snewser assigns to this week's boot question in his JTS game.


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96. "RE: ...with an anvil"
Since I'm retentive, gone as in away from camp for one night on a reward trip or gone as in voted out? I know what the majority believes happens this week but if that's really Janu and Coby competing against BJ and Steph Ulong seems to have a chance this week.
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97. "RE: ...with an anvil"
If the teams are already on the mats, doesn't this appear that everyone will be competing in this competition?

http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/graphics/gallery/S10E08sports/S10E08sportspromo053

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98. "Reward Challenge"
LAST EDITED ON 04-04-05 AT 05:38 PM (EST)

That shot is arrival at the RC...notice Bj's tunic, which matches the shot of him with a mouthfull of Gross food, and also notice Stephenie's buff as tube top. At the RC it's worn in full width, but during the challenge she wears it on her wrist, and after the IC she wears it bunched up over her bra.

Edited to add: I think Bobscure was refering to the IC...


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99. "Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
Here's a new spoiler to add to the list:


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Quote: But then later, that seems to change to Jenn and Stephenie being in the final 6. Does Caryn make it or not?

I called Caryn as 5th a few weeks ago, so yes. Caryn is in the final 6. I originally had Stephenie in my final 6, because I misinterpeted something my source had said, but after going over it with my source again, I corrected it a few days later. It can definitley be confusing if you have only read the first couple pages. I changed my first post so there wouldn't be any confusion, but I had left all the others in between.And Thumpus is correct, from a reward that happens around the final 6, I put Jen in there as the other person.To everyone who wrote haiku's... those were all so funny! Loved them. Thanks.

darsharrah: Ian wins an immunity challenge that involves coconuts that happens the same episode as Stephenie's boot.
If I get anymore, I will post it here.

Quote: I've also been wondering, if it is indeed a Tom/Katie Final Two, do you know who wins out of those two? And do you know anything about Ian "exiting gracefully" or if TheGame is just full of crap?

My source would never know for sure who wins between the two if they are still doing that live vote... but my source has said that Katie backstabs a few people and my source always talked about Tom in a very positive light, I know that isn't the answer you were looking for but I hope that helps.


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I know I said it was an immunity challenge, but my source said competition. If that helps anyone by knowing that.


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100. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
Bobscure ... you seem confident in your choice other than Bobby Jon. If you turn out to be correct Thursday night I'll purchase an EZ Supporter membership for you Friday morning. Deal?

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101. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
Deal! Seriously, I cannot wait to see the end of the IC. Cat and I were looking at leg pics earlier and it just struck me.
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102. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
If Ian wins individual immunity the same episode that Steph gets booted then we would have a merge. Right?

I know I said this last week and I am still saying it...it is hard for me to believe that we will see a fire starting challenge to determine the bootee. I say this because of the promos. I think EPMB would be beating us over the head with the you won't believe how the next person leaves the game statement.

This week is strange!

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103. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
Vols, I think you are right. There's a reason why we haven't had any promos about the TC this week.
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104. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
I was thinking this too, but in the past they've never hyped any twist that involves the actual boot procedure (e.g. Paschal and the purple rock) -- not that there've been that many of them.

I also find it hard to fathom a fire-building contest taking place on the TC set, which has a raging fire right in the middle of it. It seems more likely they would do this outside on the beach somewhere, and then maybe the Quit Boat would cart the loser away. Will Jeff say "the tribe has spoken"?


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105. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
If they do this on the middle of the beach, why do we see both tribes back in or walking back toward their camp after the IC? If I am correct, one of your proposals will take place.
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106. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
If they do this on the middle of the beach, why do we see both tribes back in or walking back toward their camp after the IC?

Why would it have to take place immediately following the regular IC?


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108. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
BR,

Remember back during the double boot episode Jiffy in the voice over said "2 will go home" and then also stated at "2 tribal councils". Also, the mention may not have to be so blatant as I posted earlier. What if Jiffy says...you can't miss the last 5 minutes of the show. They used to say things like that during the early merge episodes...they would say first 5 mins of the show.

I just think that the fire building exit is such a switch from how the show normally ends that it would be mentioned.

One thing that I just thought of. I wonder how we would be discussing this without the Mer spoiler about the fire building? How is the general viewer thinking with only two people left on one tribe...merge? If the general viewer is thinking about a two person tribe going back to TC, I wonder what they think will happen if Ulong loses yet again? I am mentioning this to try and get into MB's train of thought.

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109. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
I think they are thinking that there HAS to be a merge and some folks around my office still think Wanda and whats-his-name are coming back. These are people that don't follow these boards.
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110. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
I am not disagreeing with you but we should see something teased at us like "what will happen if there isn't a merge".
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111. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
I wonder how we would be discussing this without the Mer spoiler about the fire building? How is the general viewer thinking with only two people left on one tribe...merge?

That's the thing...we've already gotten to a bizarre point in the proceedings with only 2 people on a tribe. I don't think they'd hype anything special about the ending this week because as you say everyone is probably thinking they *have* to merge now. So this would come as a really huge shock to the general audience.



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112. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
I believe the clips showing them wet and back at camp including the interview with Coby and BJ and Steph's walk back to camp are shown in what is usually the TC segment.
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107. "RE: Ian wins Indvidual Immunity"
Bob,

I am confused. Can you point me in the direction of a summary of your theory? I read at sucks that you say look at the feet. Somewhere, I have missed the boat on this topic.

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113. "feet"
Hi, I think you can go through the knot tying challenge 2 episodes and see what the people who are not swimming and who are not participating are wearing. After you do that, look at the pics of what is supposed to be this week's IC. Look at what the people who are sitting to the side are wearing, look at what the people who are on the mat are wearing. Notice the people who are competing are dressed the same way. Look at their feet. You may come to the same conclusion I did, but if I am correct it will not help determine how the IC ends.
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114. "RE: feet"
Bob, I see your point.
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115. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
While we're waiting for Bobby Jon to leave, here's something to chew on...

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Remember when I mentioned the different side of Tom with some rum in him? Well I was just told by my source that it is not tonight's episode, but the one next week.



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116. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
So is the rum Tom gets ahold of next week part of a reward challenge that he wins individually, or do you think it is merge juice to oil the hinges on their mouths?

Wonder what he blabs on and on about...


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120. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
I believe historically when they merge they get a feast, and it normally comes with some alcohol. But that doesn't exclude Tom from winning a RC.

I'm curious as to why you might be thinking Tom's different side will manifest in him blabbing though? We may just see a less "man among men" personality showing through, or do you know something more?


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121. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
No, I don't know anything, it was more just the feeling I got when I read about "Tom's other side". I know that people get a little careless with what they say when drinking, and he has a hard enough time keeping his mouth in check when not drinking.

As an example a couple episodes ago when he told Janu that she had made the jury, he seemed to pause for a second and catch himself to say "or you might even make it to where one of us is voting for you" or something like that.


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117. "Dance Fever..."
A few more comments about EP9 from Quartzeye and Mersaydeez:


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Stephenie becomes a Koror, they feast and Tom over indulges.Who will dance?


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The dance party is supposed to be good. There is also supposed to be some beetle nut in the future. I've tried to do research on that stuff but didn't come up with much.


What's Beetle Nut?


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118. "RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut"
Here's what I found KB:


"Beetle leaves with Beetle nut
The leaves are folded over the nut to make a small packet as shown. Then the whole pack is chewed slowly over a period of time to get the buzz. The chewing also coats the tongue with firey red color. Over a long period of abuse - this combination leads to oral cancer. No wonder oral cancer is so high in India"


Where can I get some???


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119. "Katie Backstabs(speculation no proof)"
ONLY SPECULATION!
Didn't someone say Katie backstabs?
well in the next episode everything goes according to plan with Tom, Katie, Ian, Stephanie, Caryn, Jenn, and Gregg voting off Coby

then in episode 10, they will all vote off Janu

in episode 11, they plan to vote of Jenn, but Katie, Jenn, Gregg, and Caryn all vote off Stephanie.

then in episode 12, katie, ian, tom, and caryn vote off gregg

episode 13, they all vote off caryn

then in episode 14, they vote off jenn and who knows who else

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122. "RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut"
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-05 AT 10:30 PM (EST)

I assume the reference to the Beetle nut is really to the Betel nut, from the betel nut palm also (maybe) known as the Pinang Palau . Also the areca nut from the areca palm. All the same thing.

http://www.sabrizain.demon.co.uk/malaya/straits4.htm

Is that whats in your picture, BH?

Another first, a psychodelic trip as RC?

Here is a picture of Betel nut (pieces I assume). It seems to be available, even thru Ebay.

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/4255e9a0296a269f.html

Some pretty nasty stuff from what I've heard, protracted use turns users teeth dark brown, as resembling a mouth of rotten teeth.

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123. "RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut"
Another first, a psychodelic trip as RC?

How soon we forget Chad's Kava trip in S9!!!


If it was this Amy on the RC trip with him and not S9 Ami..I would have taken advantage of little old Chad in that state!!!

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124. "RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut"
You are right. How quickly did I forget. Not the first survivor Psy-delly trip. If it happens.


I submit. But no slapping, please.

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125. "RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut"
Yes Kingfish I do believe that's what's in the pic I posted.
Should be an interesting episode. I wonder who'll be the trippiest? I'd love to see Ian or Colby on this stuff!

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126. "RE: Dance Fever...Beetle Nut"
If I (no credentials) understand these things, people that have more open attitudes, and are more secure in emotionally in life handle mind altering chemicals better, and those that are generally more guarded tend to freak out more.

That would indicate to me that perhaps Katie or Ian would have fun and Coby or Caryn, maybe Tom might have a little more trouble.

If they actually are allowed to get high enough.

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127. "RE: Dance Fever..."
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edited: nevermind don't think what i posted is this episode

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128. "Update 4/12"
JP Gramma did a nice job of summarizing what we know about the upcoming episodes based on what Mersaydeez and Bianca have told us:

Compiling, for my own sanity :

Ep. 9 "I Will Not Give Up" :
Another side of Tom shows when he gets some rum, per Mersaydeez.
Ep 9 IC : Pole perch endurance : confirmed by Bianca at Mess
Per Bianca, Green buffs aren't used and Steph. doesn't get any special immunity.
Ep 9 Boot : Coby
Mersaydeez : boot is Coby or Janu
Mess : Clear evidence that Janu is around in Ep 10.
conclusion : Ep 9 boot is Coby - First Jury member
Remaining survivors : 8

Ep 10 : "Exile Island"
RC : Water Tower per TVGuide
Reward :
Boot : Janu Per Mersaydeez
Remaining Survivors : 7

Ep 11 :
IC : Involves Coconuts. Ian wins Immunity per Mersaydeez
boot : Stephanie per Mersaydeez
Remaining Survivors : 6

Ep 12 :
Reward : Gregg wins Reward on Palau Aggressor II, takes Katie and Jenn
This is also a family reward per Bianca and yofox02 who told us that Steph missed the family reward
boot : Gregg
Remaining survivors : 5

Ep 13 :
Boot : Caryn (per Mersaydeez)
Remaining survivors : 4

Ep 14
F4 boot : Jenn or Ian, probably Jenn
F3 boot : Ian (could be Jenn.)
F2 : Tom & Katie per Mersaydeez


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129. "RE: Update 4/12"
Thanks for the update Krautboy.Going to keep this in a special place to use as the major guide to the rest of the season.Your work on compiling this spoiler is appreciated by all.RedBeard
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130. "RE: Update 4/12"
Redbeard beat me to the gratitudes Krautboy! Thanks


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131. "EP11 Spoiler"
New post from Mersaydeez:

Thanks everyone! I don't mind that most people were skeptical at first, especially with the history here and stuff. It's understandable.

Something new for episode 11 (not the one this week, but the week after) :

Yeah, I don't have a cryptic bone in my body.

Edited by: Mersaydeez at: 4/19/05 7:19 pm

It says:

" It is Episode 11
Letters from home
Ian Wins Immunity
Stephenie joins the jury"


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132. "Something interesting from Wezzie"
I'm putting this here because I don't where else to put it.


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Re: Compilation of actual spoilers
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...and to add something new to the pot, look for Tom and Ian's winning streak for immunity.

8 hours, 11 hours. Keep those in mind.

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133. "RE: Something interesting from Wezzie"
...and possibly another firestarting challenge to determine third place. I think they used flint this time. I'm checking on that.

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134. "And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
Guess who wins the car.


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135. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
Good, I'm glad that he wins it, I had heard a while back that Caryn did....Ugh!


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136. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
That's what I heard, anyway. If it's wrong, you'll find me hiding under my bed.
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137. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
yeah, someone did a horrible job Photoshopping Ian's head on there!

come on...

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138. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
The photoshopped picture is not the spoiler, but it is Wezzie's way of sharing her spoiler with us. Just to be clear, Ian DOES win a red Corvette.


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139. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
Yeah, I realize that.... I just wanted to point out the photoshopping
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140. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
lol!
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141. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
lmao
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142. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
lol? lol!
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144. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
lol too! lmao tooo. (whew, laughing so hard tears are rolling down my face (w,lshtardmf!)

(btw what are we laughing at?)

Nevermind. I got it.

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143. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
Maybe I'm a little slow here, but I'm getting the vibe that Ian and Tom dont end on a very good note with each other. Am I wrong, or is there in a spoiler somewhere that I have missed? -lani
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145. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
>I'm getting the vibe
>that Ian and Tom dont
>end on a very good
>note with each other. Am
>I wrong, or is there
>in a spoiler somewhere that
>I have missed? -lani

Weren't there photos of the three guys (Tom, Ian & Gregg) hanging out (and possibly partying) together for St. Patricks Day in NYC? That would indicate that they get along, or if they hadn't that all is forgiven, etc. Would 2 losing alpha men want to hang out with the winning alpha? Generally because people want to view themselves as winners, they like to hang out with "other winners". But wouldn't human nature make them resentful of the winner? Could this be a clue that Tom is not the sole survivor?

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146. "RE: And another item spoiled by the redoubtable Wezzie"
JMO, but I can't see Ian so peeved at _anyone_ that he would hold a grudge. Especially after winning that chick magnet of a car! (hope that spoiler is true, lol)

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147. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Last night's editing really supports the idea of Ian stepping off during the final IC. He and Katie swore to be a pair to the end, but he also had a lot of confessionals talking about his alliance with Tom. I could see him being confident that either one of them would take him to the final 2, without him having to possibly give up a vote by winning the final IC and breaking a promise to one of them.


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148. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Wezzie has posted a hint over at SSucks suggesting that the final Immunity lasts 11 hours with the first person out lasting 8 eight hours...if Ian "steps off" it's not without a fight...


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149. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
That makes sense to me. With one of the emphasized themes being "paranoia", I wouldn't see someone throwing in the towel easily. Steph's narration last night stressed trusting no one. Jeff talking about the breakup of the happy family.

I was trying to figure out a way that "Ian steps off" comment would make sense, and until last night I couldn't find anything even remotely suggesting he would.

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150. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
After Janu left Ian is the leanest tribe member left. After 8 hours I could see Ian so weak that he has no choice but to step off and collapse.
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151. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
(Assuming the hours are right, more or less...)

I think Ian is the 11 hour person. I'm sure he was mentally and physically exhausted. Eight hours is an incredible performance, as well. If they really lasted that long, they're all winners in my eyes.

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153. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Just wanted to give a shout out to Wezzie, we appreciate you jumping over hear to give us a post now and then! Now, are you saying that Ian is the 11 hour person that makes it that long, or is he the one that bails after 8 hours? Sorry, a bit confused, as usual!

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152. "RE: The Mersaydeez Spoiler Summary"
Thanks to Wezzie and Krautboy for posting that hint about the 11 hour endurance challenge at the final 3, I hadn't seen it before.

It makes sense, endurance challenges are favorites for the last challenge. I could see how a Tom/Katie final 2 could emerge with Ian finishing 3rd, a tall, gangly guy like him just typically doesn't do that well at balance/endurance challenges, although 8 hours is phenomenal. In other seasons women typically have done better at balance/endurance challenges, although all the women caved at the water balance/food temptation challenge this season. Tom's performance surprised me at that challenge, a muscular guy like him, an older guy, I expected him to cave, but he was really determined. It reminded me of how Kim and Twila had won balance/endurance challenges, pretty much surprising everyone. So Tom won't cave, Katie, is not blessed with extraordinary grace and endurance, but if she lasts between 8 and 11 hours, she did a great job. After Ian bails, it pays for her to step off for a number 2 finish, if she can get Tom to say he will bring her to the final 2.

Everybody theoretically could win, Tom takes someone who the jury may view as disliked and undeserving into the final 2, Katie gets to plead her case and claim she was true blue to the end, she didn't overtly screw people and she didn't have to sell our her boy Ian.

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